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Transformer: Ask Before Buying

Hi all!
I'm really really near to buy an Asus Eee Pad Transformer..
I will use this tablet for:
Offline GPS when driving
Remote connect to my PC (at home) to programming while not at home (example at university)
Drawing on it if it's possible
Surf Web, send email and so on
Playing some android games
But..I've got a few questions about it:
Using it for drawing it's possible?
Dual-boot with Ubuntu/Debian without losing warranty?
Future update to Android Ice Cream without rooting?
What about battery substitution?
Wait for Transformer2 to have a lower price?
Wait for PadFone to compare?
Thanks in advance to anyone that would respond

bruuuno said:
Using it for drawing it's possible?
Yes, no as accurate as a tablet or paper though
Dual-boot with Ubuntu/Debian without losing warranty?
No linux just yet
Future update to Android Ice Cream without rooting?
Who knows
What about battery substitution?
Its not removable, you can buy the dock though
Wait for Transformer2 to have a lower price?
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Wait for PadFone to compare?
Do you want a phone aswell?
Thanks in advance to anyone that would respond
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10 char...

Using it for drawing it's possible?
Yes
Dual-boot with Ubuntu/Debian without losing warranty?
Not without losing the warranty, and it hasnt been achieved yet but probably will be
Future update to Android Ice Cream without rooting?
no way to know this yet
What about battery substitution?
not user changeable.
Wait for Transformer2 to have a lower price?
but then you'll want the tf2 and be waiting for the tf3. It's a vicious cycle
Wait for PadFone to compare?
meh

Thanks for the quick answers
I would like to know how is drawing with this tablet..
If i connect via USB the tablet to my PC..is it possible to draw in the tablet and see meanwhile in the PC screen?
I mean: is it possible to use the tablet as a simply handwriting input peripheral?..

And a Tablet for 200€?
bruuuno said:
I will use this tablet for:
Offline GPS when driving
Remote connect to my windows 7 PC (at home) to programming while not at home (example at university)
Drawing on it with a stylus
Surf Web, send email and so on
Playing some android games
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But the transformer costs 499€ with docking station and 399€ without..
For me now maybe it's too much..
Would you please recommend a good tablet that costs around 200$ that fits my needs?
thanks

How can you do offline GPS? Google maps requires data connection.

Use Navigon or Sygic Aura from the market, at a price. Check out the Android apps forum, I vaguely remember seeing something about a way to use Google nav offline.
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There's a rumor that Google is working on some major offine features coming this summer (Google Docs, etc) but offline Google Maps is rumored to happen. This will be Awesome!
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Ok for the offline GPS I will probably buy an app ..
And for the tablet to buy?..any advice?..

transceiver said:
How can you do offline GPS? Google maps requires data connection.
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Either cache the maps or get a better program called CoPilot 8.

Ok thanks ..
But the main question remains: which tablet to buy?
I would like to take the Asus Transformer..but now I haven't the money for that price..
So.. Which tablet for 200-250$?

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bruuuno said:
Ok thanks ..
But the main question remains: which tablet to buy?
I would like to take the Asus Transformer..but now I haven't the money for that price..
So.. Which tablet for 200-250$?
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If you can't afford the tf then the other tablets are certainly out of the question too unless you buy viewsonic 7in android 2.2 tablet.
Sent from my Transformer TF101

I keep seeing deals on slickdeal/1saleaday/etc. for archos or viewsonics that are like $80~$200, but who knows if they are good for you.. (i don't know their stats)

Stylus Question
Ok at last I'll have an help from my parents to buy the transformer ..
I'll order in internet and meanwhile I'll buy a stylus in the same site..
How is the MYMOD iPen for 13€?..someone's got it?

bruuuno said:
Ok at last I'll have an help from my parents to buy the transformer ..
I'll order in internet and meanwhile I'll buy a stylus in the same site..
How is the MYMOD iPen for 13€?..someone's got it?
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Search the Accessories forum for 'stylus'. Four threads come up with different stylus.

bruuuno said:
Ok thanks ..
But the main question remains: which tablet to buy?
I would like to take the Asus Transformer..but now I haven't the money for that price..
So.. Which tablet for 200-250$?
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Go to craiglist or kijiji and look for a used ipad 1.

You probably won't have a working GPS in a tablet for $200 to $250. I previously owned the Barnes and Noble Nook Color but sold it to get the transformer. You can install CM7 OS on it or Honeycomb and it was great. I believe most will say that for $250 it is the best bang for the buck. Especially when build quality and screen quality are important. It really was a great device I just wanted something that would play flash well in the browser so I figured the TF would since its a Tegra 2 processor. But boo, it sucks too. The Nook was handy being a little smaller too. But for me the keyboard dock won me over.

proplayer44 said:
You probably won't have a working GPS in a tablet for $200 to $250. I previously owned the Barnes and Noble Nook Color but sold it to get the transformer. You can install CM7 OS on it or Honeycomb and it was great. I believe most will say that for $250 it is the best bang for the buck. Especially when build quality and screen quality are important. It really was a great device I just wanted something that would play flash well in the browser so I figured the TF would since its a Tegra 2 processor. But boo, it sucks too. The Nook was handy being a little smaller too. But for me the keyboard dock won me over.
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Flash is flawless for me.

tekkitan said:
Flash is flawless for me.
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I've done quite a bit of research on forums about the flash in browsers and it is NOT flawless. You seem to be the only person saying that it is working perfectly.
I'm not talking about the youtube app. That is NOT flash. It's html5.
720P in the browser plays okay, but it does not play smooth by any means.
Do this test on youtube in your browser.
youtube.com/my_speed (since I can't post links yet I took out the www so just add that back in the beginning)
Hit the 'show video' link and tell me what your frame rates are at 720p.
If you have a frame rate of 30fps or more, then you're very lucky that Asus sent you the only transformer with hardware decoding in your browser. But somehow I doubt that.

[Q] Is the Nook the best choice for me?

Hey all I'm in the tablet market with about $300.. I'm trying to make sure the NC is the best choice for me before I go buy one.
I want to play Droid games, watch movies, read books and get good support for my device.
Is there any other tablets in my price range I should be considering other than the NC?
Also can a new NC be rooted and booted right off the showroom floor purchased new?
Thanks for the replies!

Well, yes, there are other tablets in the 250-350 range. Is your 300 a hard number? I flexed it up and down by 50 dollars.
NC can be rooted fairly quickly. I actually looked online here for a few days before I bought mine and knew what to do off the bat. I knew to buy a couple 4 gb disks, what I didn't realize is I needed sandisk branded ones.
So for what you're going to be doing get some sandisk 4 gb discs, prob 2, and get a larger one or two (16 or 32) for a alternate boot for cm7, sandisk of course.

Phatdawg said:
Well, yes, there are other tablets in the 250-350 range. Is your 300 a hard number? I flexed it up and down by 50 dollars.
NC can be rooted fairly quickly. I actually looked online here for a few days before I bought mine and knew what to do off the bat. I knew to buy a couple 4 gb disks, what I didn't realize is I needed sandisk branded ones.
So for what you're going to be doing get some sandisk 4 gb discs, prob 2, and get a larger one or two (16 or 32) for a alternate boot for cm7, sandisk of course.
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So in your opinion is there an easier device to use thats as supported? My $300 range isn't really a hard number.. I'd love a Transformer - but thats over doing it.
I've considered the Viewsonic Gtab cause a friend has one.. but not sure at this point which road to travel.

Easier to use?
I mean, if we're talking out of the box. Nook is the worst tablet out there because the e-reader and functionality sucks.
After getting CM7, it's pretty nice but that takes about an hour to do.

Once you root the Nook and put CM on it, it becomes golden.

Nook Color Gaming
There's gaming for you. For what you are looking for, you can't go wrong with the NC. It just depends on if you are willing to take the time to optimize it.
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Granted that reminds me of the imei problem with nooks. I guess that's something else to consider. Re: gameloft stuff and a few other programs here and there.

,I agree with iammarino...the nookcolor is pretty sweet once you root it. Cm7... if u want to watch movies I have found the easiest and nicest way is to install Netflix...

Phatdawg said:
Granted that reminds me of the imei problem with nooks. I guess that's something else to consider. Re: gameloft stuff and a few other programs here and there.
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But with my IMEI Generator program... that becomes nothing to worry about.

DizzyDen said:
But with my IMEI Generator program... that becomes nothing to worry about.
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true and there are work arounds about other issues like setting model to htc/vision, probably could do htc/flyer and be a bit more accurate with another 7 inch table in regards to market.

talk2nate said:
Hey all I'm in the tablet market with about $300.. I'm trying to make sure the NC is the best choice for me before I go buy one.
I want to play Droid games, watch movies, read books and get good support for my device.
Is there any other tablets in my price range I should be considering other than the NC?
Also can a new NC be rooted and booted right off the showroom floor purchased new?
Thanks for the replies!
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I love my NC. I'm running CM7 off an SD card, and I've used Dizzy's IMEI program so now I have that working too. There are a number of things you can do to make the NC experience very fulfilling. And at 250 new, ~200 refurb, that leaves you a bunch of extra dollars for playing and extra kit (sdcards, case, etc.)
Having said that though, it really depends on your personality and the amount of time you have to tweak the NC to fully bring out it's capabilities. You can now get a refurb Samsung Galaxy Tab (carrier version, not Wifi-only one) within your budget and have vendor supported Gingerbread out of the box, IMEI is solved due to being a carrier edition, slightly better stock hardware without needing to overclock, camera and GPS.
If I had to do it all over again, I would personally still pick the NC simply because I have the time and inclination to play and tweak. But do you?

[Q] Thinking of Buying an A500. A few questions.

Hello, I've been tablet shopping and i found an A500 for $300 refurb. Best deal i can find around.
I want to buy it, but i'd like to ask a few questions first.
First off. It advertises as a Honeycomb tablet. Will there be an OTA ICS update waiting for me when i set it up?
If so, How is ICS on this device? Is it buggy? does everything work? Or will i be constantly rooting/roming to get it to work properly?
If i have to root/rom, How is it? Easy? difficult? oneclick? I know my phone was a pain, but another one i did was a snap. Wanted to know how easy it is to rom this device?
How is video playback? One of the main things i wish to do is play movies/videos. mainly; Netflix, Streaming, and .avi and mp4's. How is playback? I can't stand choppy video or audio-lag. So this is pretty important to me.
Also, Some basic performance reviews would be great. not the main purpose of this thread, but hey, any information is helpful.
I was looking between this and the EeePad transformer. Basically within $20 of eachother.
Thank you.

FourForty said:
Hello, I've been tablet shopping and i found an A500 for $300 refurb. Best deal i can find around.
I want to buy it, but i'd like to ask a few questions first.
First off. It advertises as a Honeycomb tablet. Will there be an OTA ICS update waiting for me when i set it up?
If so, How is ICS on this device? Is it buggy? does everything work? Or will i be constantly rooting/roming to get it to work properly?
If i have to root/rom, How is it? Easy? difficult? oneclick? I know my phone was a pain, but another one i did was a snap. Wanted to know how easy it is to rom this device?
How is video playback? One of the main things i wish to do is play movies/videos. mainly; Netflix, Streaming, and .avi and mp4's. How is playback? I can't stand choppy video or audio-lag. So this is pretty important to me.
Also, Some basic performance reviews would be great. not the main purpose of this thread, but hey, any information is helpful.
I was looking between this and the EeePad transformer. Basically within $20 of eachother.
Thank you.
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depending where you live you will most likely have ics waiting for you most places have it now ics runs nicely hadn't had any bugs with it so far the video playback is great the only time it starts to lag for me is when 1080p is being streamed to a TV ......rooting and romming is easy enough after root flashing custom roms is about 3 clicks from cmw lol rooting i cant say now i mine was rooted before ics but there's lots of tutorials performance wise it can be over clocked to about 1.5ghz but even not over clocked i hadn't found a game that will make it lag yet even N.O.V.A 3 with its online multi player and sweet graphics xD
Its not all amazing though there are some problems
1.some tablets don't have the best wifi saying even in the same room as the router they get one block of signal i think to be an old Gen problem though....i have surprisingly great wifi connection????
2.The Video recording is TERRIBLE on honeycomb not the video but the sound is all congested and gross,but if you do update it there has been BIG improvements with ics
3.does not like Bluetooth headsets with a mic input it will pair but not connect with most of them ,but some still work xD...
One more thing there is also built in GPS not needing wifi and great for gaming and modding so i think...external 3g Hawaii usb adapter have had success working micro sd works up to 64gb and external hard rive up to 2tb xD good luck hope this helped

FourForty said:
Hello, I've been tablet shopping and i found an A500 for $300 refurb. Best deal i can find around.
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You can beat that price easily. The last one I bought was auction style and got it for $210 shipped. It was the 8gb version. The 16gb can be had for a little more than that if you don't mind playing the auction game. Personally, I'd never pay more than $250 shipped for a refurb. I expect the refurbs to get to the ~$200 price point by the end of the summer.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...+a500&LH_FS=1&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&_osacat=171485
As far as the rest... What Gears said.

Thank you both for the replies.
The WiFi connection concerns me a bit. But not a deal-breaker for sure.
Glad to hear video playback is good. As that's most likely going to be my main use of this tablet.
I don't use bluetooth headsets, so not too worried about that.
As for beating the price. Here in Canada, That's literally the best price i could find. Newegg.ca has it for $268. so after tax/fees, it's $301.
I'm not a fan of buying used electronics off ebay. Too much risk. and a boat load of hassle with returns/paypal. well, almost all are final sales. And i don't want to get screwed.
At least with sites such as newegg i get a warranty.
Even with that being said. I used your link and found one on ebay. Currently winning at $122. But with 6-days left. I doubt it will be a good deal. my max is $225, so we'll see how long that lasts.

FourForty said:
Thank you both for the replies.
The WiFi connection concerns me a bit. But not a deal-breaker for sure.
Glad to hear video playback is good. As that's most likely going to be my main use of this tablet.
I don't use bluetooth headsets, so not too worried about that.
As for beating the price. Here in Canada, That's literally the best price i could find. Newegg.ca has it for $268. so after tax/fees, it's $301.
I'm not a fan of buying used electronics off ebay. Too much risk. and a boat load of hassle with returns/paypal. well, almost all are final sales. And i don't want to get screwed.
At least with sites such as newegg i get a warranty.
Even with that being said. I used your link and found one on ebay. Currently winning at $122. But with 6-days left. I doubt it will be a good deal. my max is $225, so we'll see how long that lasts.
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FYI & I don't know if they are available in Canada, but a friend & I each picked up refurbished a500s from the referenced "Official Acer Store" on eBay. They came with a 90 day warranty. It was about 4 months ago and they were $267US then. Upon receipt both appeared to be brand new. Mine has had absolutlely no issues. My friend's developed a couple of horizontal colored lines after about 3 weeks. The Acer Store folks quickly arranged for a prepaid return and sent him another immaculate appearing unit in about a week. It has been flawless. None of the 3 units had any difficulty with Timmy Dean's v3.2.1, HC downgrade , the ICS OTA, or bootloader or ROM mods. Whatever you decide, goodluck. The a500 is a super piece of hardware and these forums are a goldmine of information and hours of reading pleasure!

I bought mine around valentines day off eBay for $280 refurbished, a 16gb version. Got the square trade warranty for $40. The tablet was fine for about a week and then my screen started coming up along the top/bottom edges. So I shipped it back. The second one has had no problem. I rooted, installed recovery, custom rom, and backed up on the first one. When my 2nd tablet came I was able to just root, install recovery and recover from my SD backup with no problem.
I love this tablet! Personally, I choose it over the Asus ones that were out at the time I got mine. From what I've heard, the Asus and other tablets don't allow a constant HDMI out like the Acer. They only utilize it when an app calls it. That could have been a stock rom issue, but even then if u have a newer tf101 u can't unlock it like its older model. As stated above, all games run flawlessly. I can play Shadow Gun then load up GTA3 and switch between the two without either game lagging.
You'll be happy with your purchase after the first minute of playing with the Iconia.
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WiFi works quite well under Gentoo for me. On Honeycomb, it was sightly buggy at times. The changes in ICS seem to have gotten rid of this issue, for me at least.

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WiFi works quite well under Gentoo for me. On Honeycomb, it was sightly buggy at times. The changes in ICS seem to have gotten rid of this issue, for me at least.
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Agreed i havnt had any wifi issues at all since ics

what specifically do you want to do with a tablet? That should help narrow your search , do you need root? do you need custom roms or is the stock fine? are you into testing? If your squeamish about "tech" stuff ,root /rom wont be your thing ,the stock roms offer alot in these tabs ,just having ICS doesnt ensure you anything over HC , most people have this problem about worrying about updates , getting antsy over it , if you go custom rom it all depends on what your comfortable with , you might change the rom daily ,or you might be totally satisfied ,I have a Windows phone 7 that has a custom rom I installed back in december , havent changed a thing since , On my Acer I couldnt tell where I was a week ago ,everything gets changed between a few days to a week !
Read the dev section , anything by skrillax ,civato ,vache,blkthdr (thor if you can find it) and Moscow desire to name a few and you'll be on the right track and as civato says "dont be a chicken, just do it" otherwise stay stock and wait for Acer............

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Opinion on tablet for college

Hello Vibe community,
I need opinions.
My two current tablet options are asus transformer tf300 and dock or Nexus 7 and keyboard. Heres a link to the possible keyboard for the Nexus: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00695OFE2
Im not looking for specs or price, i need to know what people think of convenience; i mean ill be carrying these in a bag, or possibly on my arm, ill be using them while walking, sometimes while in class, other times on the bus etc..
honestly i dont know if you guys will be able to help here but i do ask that you contribute something to tip my hand so that i dont spend hours wondering if i made the right choice myself and letting it ruin my experience.. thanks
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Here is a thread similar to yours.
Can a tablet replace a laptop?
Here is my post from that thread too.
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Well I don't have a TF300 but I do have a TF101 and all-in-all, I am extremely happy with it. In fact I use it more than my laptop. However, I do still use my laptop as a repository or sorts for hosting, downloads and some other Android-type things that a tablet just can't do.
There have been some stability issues with the whole line of Transformers in one form or another. But if you are experienced enough to figure out that it is not a hardware problem, then they all can be fixed one way or another.
I had always thought that tablets were nothing more than just large phones but then I used a friend's Xoom and realized that there was much more to them than that. So, I searched and searched and read and read some more about all types of tablets and what would best suit me. I wanted to know about support (XDA type support), Rooting, development as well as manufacturer support, O/S updates and basic compatability with my daily life.
After all that was done, I decided to purchase the TF101 (in Feb of this year) and have been happy with it. Later, I eventually bought a keyboard dock and between that and my usage patterns, it has beyond outstanding battery life (3-5 days with moderate use). There are several apps that emulate Xcel, Word, microsoft family as well as Polaris. Can watch HD YouTube vids just fine too. I had jury duty a few weeks ago and while I was waiting, I watched Netflix for about 3 hours and didn't put a dent in my battery life and it didn't get hot either.
Storage is unbeatable. Tablet comes with 16/32gb (I have 32gb version), External Micro-SD (up to 32gb) and the dock holds up to 32gb full-sized SD. So if you do the math that is 96gb of storage on a tablet.
I know you are thinking about the TF300 but this is my POV from the TF101. I say pull the trigger on it. You already have the laptop so it isn't like you have to choose between getting one or the other.
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Woodrube said:
Here is a thread similar to yours.
Can a tablet replace a laptop?
Here is my post from that thread too.
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Thanks alot Woodrube; so you would say that a transformer would probably work best for me?
im just not sure that id ever use the transformer without its lapdock so im wondering if itll just be a bogged-down version of a netbook... the Nexus with keyboard, on the other hand, would be used separately when i just need portability and together when i need a 'laptop' of sorts.
Thanks for the opinion

You'd think that you would use it more as a laptop than a tablet, but that is the beauty of the dock. It comes off. I use mine as a tablet more than a "laptop", but I am not in college anymore. So mine is totally recreational. I bought mine in February at BestBuy for $399 for the 32gb one. Then while cruising Ebay one night,I found a dock for $70 (retail was $150). So I got the dock on the cheap.
I do use OfficePro and apps like that but I don't use it as a reader at all (for books and stuff). There are a few of us that have Transformers, of one fashion or another. Mr_Psycho, me, Globespy, Manus all have TF101's, DougFresh and Shreddintyres both have TPrimes and another RC friend of mine actually developed the exploit to root the entire Transformer line.
Obviously the N7 is a Google Experience device, so there is all that too. If you want anything more specific,feel free to PM me about your needs and what they might be and I can shoot you some more info and some app links.
Either way,one thing that I would suggest is to get you hands on both. They are cool,but are also very different from your phone-type use (if that make sense). Plus the chiklet style keys are a bit difficult to adapt too. I find that I mistype more than normal. But I use a full keyboard at work, have a laptop at home and my TF's dock,all with different sizes of keys and pressure points. Head over to BestBuy or MicroCenter and test drive one for a bit. Could probably go to Starbucks or school library too.

Woodrube said:
You'd think that you would use it more as a laptop than a tablet, but that is the beauty of the dock. It comes off. I use mine as a tablet more than a "laptop", but I am not in college anymore. So mine is totally recreational. I bought mine in February at BestBuy for $399 for the 32gb one. Then while cruising Ebay one night,I found a dock for $70 (retail was $150). So I got the dock on the cheap.
I do use OfficePro and apps like that but I don't use it as a reader at all (for books and stuff). There are a few of us that have Transformers, of one fashion or another. Mr_Psycho, me, Globespy, Manus all have TF101's, DougFresh and Shreddintyres both have TPrimes and another RC friend of mine actually developed the exploit to root the entire Transformer line.
Obviously the N7 is a Google Experience device, so there is all that too. If you want anything more specific,feel free to PM me about your needs and what they might be and I can shoot you some more info and some app links.
Either way,one thing that I would suggest is to get you hands on both. They are cool,but are also very different from your phone-type use (if that make sense). Plus the chiklet style keys are a bit difficult to adapt too. I find that I mistype more than normal. But I use a full keyboard at work, have a laptop at home and my TF's dock,all with different sizes of keys and pressure points. Head over to BestBuy or MicroCenter and test drive one for a bit. Could probably go to Starbucks or school library too.
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Thats actually a great idea, going to test them out.. I'm going to do that and see what i think. Thanks again bro, youve been a big help

Like Woodrube I have a TF101 as well. Besides when I capture video and render, I use my tablet 90% at home. It has 100% replaced my laptop, 90% replaced my desktop, and 20% replaced my work desktop. I use my desktop and NAS to store files, so having 44GB~ of space is not a problem (which on a tablet shouldn't be anyway.)
I would say that a tablet should be able to do what you are looking for, but I would get a feel for them in person before buying. I could not live without a tablet the size of the TF101, but my wife would not go above 7 inches (she loves her Nook and plans on replacing it with the Nexus 7 most likely).

badxkarma said:
Like Woodrube I have a TF101 as well. Besides when I capture video and render, I use my tablet 90% at home. It has 100% replaced my laptop, 90% replaced my desktop, and 20% replaced my work desktop. I use my desktop and NAS to store files, so having 44GB~ of space is not a problem (which on a tablet shouldn't be anyway.)
I would say that a tablet should be able to do what you are looking for, but I would get a feel for them in person before buying. I could not live without a tablet the size of the TF101, but my wife would not go above 7 inches (she loves her Nook and plans on replacing it with the Nexus 7 most likely).
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Yeah i went to best buy and the 10 inch ones def felt way better in my hand. I decided on the galaxy note 10.1 because i can take my math lecture notes on it and save paper
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buy note 10.1 its super good for college....

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buy note 10.1 its super good for college....
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Yeah i think i will, thats for the input
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Do you mind if I ask what field you are going into? If it is a technical field you might have a real need for a laptop instead of a tablet that is all I was thinking about.

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Do you mind if I ask what field you are going into? If it is a technical field you might have a real need for a laptop instead of a tablet that is all I was thinking about.
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Im going for a BS in physics.. at least for the first 2 years, i dont anticipate needing a laptop
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younix258 said:
Im going for a BS in physics.. at least for the first 2 years, i dont anticipate needing a laptop
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I guess that is true and there should be a computer lab for any software they require you to use.

When I went to college the first time, I was going for a BS in physics too. I got all the way with only 4 classes until I graduated. Then I cracked and couldn't do any math at all. I couldn't even add up golf scores or bar tabs. Quit school for 2-3 years and went back and got my history degree.
This was a long time ago, but when I was in the program, was the same time that Linux (not Unix) came out and when I first learned about kernels and command lines. I still dabble in the physics program. Actually, I have employee access the the internal CERN website (don't ask) and I am on there quite frequently.
Younix, if you have any questions, please feel free to PM me. Also take a look at my profile, you'll see something funny in my "Interests" section.

Woodrube said:
When I went to college the first time, I was going for a BS in physics too. I got all the way with only 4 classes until I graduated. Then I cracked and couldn't do any math at all. I couldn't even add up golf scores or bar tabs. Quit school for 2-3 years and went back and got my history degree.
This was a long time ago, but when I was in the program, was the same time that Linux (not Unix) came out and when I first learned about kernels and command lines. I still dabble in the physics program. Actually, I have employee access the the internal CERN website (don't ask) and I am on there quite frequently.
Younix, if you have any questions, please feel free to PM me. Also take a look at my profile, you'll see something funny in my "Interests" section.
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Wow huge coincidence huh? Saw the advanced physics thing.. nice lol.
So what do you think? Is it a good career/degree choice?
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Which is the best Windows 10 affordable tablet out there?

Hi everyone! I'm not new here on XDA, but i'm new into Windows 10 "mobile" handsets. I've seen a lot of review about several differen models but haven't find yet the perfect one for me. I used to do my everyday tasks with a Galaxy tab S2 (2015) then it broke in a non fixable way. I've decided to change and try with a Windows tablet to see how feels a pc like experience handled. Actually i don't have (and don't want to) a lot of money to invest in a similar product, but i can afford max a 250/300€ device. I know i can't expect a Surface performance for that price, but i just need it to view some streaming movies, surf the web and mainly use Office products to study. Anyway i'm here to ask if you can help me and suggest some of the best or what you think may be the best tablets out there. If may help you, i'll write down some of the key point i wish to have:
- A decent soc/good ram: Again, i know i can't expect much...not even thinking on top performance, but i'll be fine if i'll have a product that doesn't stuck while i'm using it. Otherwise would become too frustrating.
- 8-12 inchs: Preferibly 10, but anything above or below would be fine.
- No dual boot: May reduce storage since i don't mind to use anything than Windows. Really don't need a dual os.
- Brand: I'm open to everything. Really don't mind about the brand (even if it will be chinese) as it respects the above "expectations".
In conclusion, i don't need a "top" product and i'm aware that i can't pretend too much for the budget, but i just need a decent product to accomplish my everyday tasks, nothing more. I repeat, i'm a student so Microsoft Office will be the main use of this tablet, beside web and netflix or similar. I could use a laptop, i know...but i prefer to have something i can carry easily wherever i go. I'd really apprecciate any advice and/or personal experience. Thank you.

I guess that no one knows that...or simoly it doesn't exist. Well, this discussion can be closed then

tablets are alwayys laggy, even if theyre not at first. browse sites for few days or install some apps and it will start lagging. my fatherbought tablet and doesnt use it at all cuz its so laggy and broken

older used Surface Pro? I'm not even sure what other options there are, that is the only one I ever see.

I Like my Odys Wintab Ares 9.
It still lives after 3 years.. I used it a couple of times at work for a couple of months because the chefs thought Lenovo is good for a Technician too use... You just have too look angry at Lenovo and the Touchscreen cracks !
On my Odys I now need a new screenprotector, it is as if its build by HTC.. You can let it fall, bump against walls and use it in light rain..
And the price was 159€ ..
The only negativ is that it has a storage of only 32GB.. but I have a 128GB SDXC in it..
With a decent bluetooth keyboard and cheap bluetooth Microsoft mouse I prefer it over the too expensive Surface or Lenovo Tablets.. For the difference in Price I bought a Acer Aspire Laptop and took my girlfriend for a fancy diner..

I just got the HP Pro Tablet 608 G1, and it's really snappy. Just updated it to 20H2 and it's even better. Got it brand new on eBay with Miracast/usb/hdmi dock for $89.

motolio said:
I just got the HP Pro Tablet 608 G1, and it's really snappy. Just updated it to 20H2 and it's even better. Got it brand new on eBay with Miracast/usb/hdmi dock for $89.
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Only 2 GB of RAM? That's not gonna get very far with W10...

1. Microsoft Surface Go 2
2. Fusion5 10-inch tablet.
3. Teclast X4
These are the three tablets which are available but I don't recommend you to buy any of them.

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Only 2 GB of RAM? That's not gonna get very far with W10...
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there are 4gb version widely available

I using tablets many times, and always it was bad idea, they are not reliable and always lag.

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Only 2 GB of RAM? That's not gonna get very far with W10...
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I have the enterprise edition with 4GB ram. Got it off eBay NIB for $80.
It has a bunch of enterprise-only features which make it extremely snappy -- like bios editing, rom kitchen, driver customization, and enterprise-only firmware from chip manufactures like Hynix... to name just a few.
So, it isn't low-end by any means. Even came with a USB/ethernet/hdmi/miracast docking station. Found the HP Enterprise Catalog price list from years ago, and it was originally $1,049.

I would recommend a Microsoft surfaces pro 7