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I own an HTC Desire HD but I've been after some form of tablet since before Apple walked in with the iPad. Looking around there's no real choice yet but that's going to change in the next few months. Question is, is the Galaxy Tab with getting now or would you (current owners) wait if you were in my position?
Learning to really love the tab, but with the announcements right around the corner I would wait.
Who knows when they will be available, but at least you can then make an informed decision. Only a couple weeks away to see whats coming.
If tabs are going to wait for honeycomb and if the rumors are true that honeycomb wont be available until may or june, then I would say get it now. 6 months is a long time to wait.
With that said wait for the announcements to find out for sure.
I'd only get the Galaxy Tab if I specifically wanted a 7" form factor. If you're more interested in a 10" tablet, wait for Honeycomb.
Note that it is unlikely that the 10"ers will have a higher resolution.
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I think difficult time to make a decision like this, wait or not. My experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab is not bad but I also have an iPad and I prefer iPad for photos, videos and internet access when I am at home, SGT is nice to carry when travel but worst quality screen, worst speed drawing screen, etc. SGT have more flexibility with OS upgrades (XDA Forum), memory card, telephone calls, telecom Data Plans, but overall worst than Apple. SGT is very expensive too.
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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Thanks for your opinions guys and / or girls! I was leaning toward waiting already but then I saw the Galaxy Tab had dropped in price and it made me wonder. £399 for the 32GB version is a lot better than when it launched.
Looking on the Engadget site a few minutes ago there's already news from CES of quite a few better tablets to come. The wait for Android 3.0 is holding things back but I think I'll wait.
cocoe68 said:
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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SGT does HD in 7" now
Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
That said, 720p mkv files look amazing on the SGT. In my mind, the ability to display colors better is more important than actual vertical resolution. 600p is nothing to sneeze at.
Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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I'll second this. If you want a tablet, go get one and don't worry about what may or may not happen weeks or months from now. I bought one a few days ago and it's been my constant companion since bringing it home. That's actually more than I can say for the iPad because it was so much bigger and heavier that it rarely left the house. The Galaxy Tab fits in a pocket of most of my pants, it's light, it's fast, it plays Flash video like a champ...you absolutely won't be sorry.
Hanson68 said:
Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows, and getting decent prices on Intel Atom processors. Essentially, neither MS nor Intel wanted to cannibalize sales of their higher end OSs and processors, so introduced artificial restrictions on the specs of netbooks.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
I say wait for honeycomb. If then you don't find others that you like better than get the tab. The tab is really great however waiting might pay off.
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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Imagine the pixel density of a 7" screen with a resolution of 1920x1080 or even 1280x720! I am sure they *can* do it but I doubt anyone would want to pay that much for it.
Exactly! The resolution of these devices is not going to change (much, if at all).
Right now I do not think they even CAN do it, as I can find No devices of any type with such a screen. The smallest is the dell XPS at 13.3" (1980x1080) and HP mini note 9" 1280x800, and those are HIGH END devices.
EDIT: I can find displays, but no actual devices.
After seeing all the announcements so far from CES with Honeycomb tablets and 1280x800 resolution on 10.1" displays plus Tegra 2 chips I'm pretty sure that I'll be holding out. As good as the Galaxy Tab looks and might perform I have to wonder if Samsung will bother releasing Honeycomb for it or treating it as an early adopter product that is shelved or sold alongside newer, higher spec systems without future updates.
With that said the size and portability of the Tab would be very tempting at a lower price point, around £200, but I doubt it'll ever go that low.
There were two announcements at CES that caught attention:
Dell Streak 7, a Dell Streak with a 7' screen.
Motorola Xoom 10' with Honeycombe which looks fantastic but no definate release date.
There was also a Lenovo LePad 7'.
The Motorola Xoom really caught my eye too. I hate myself for saying it but even after the shambles of the update process for the Motorola Milestone the Xoom impressed me so much that I could see myself getting one. I'm still very tempted by the Galaxy Tab but I think I'd be setting myself up for a big loss if Samsung drag their heels on a Honeycomb release like their FroYo updates. Given that they likely have new hardware to release as well it gives them even less incentive to update it.
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Here's a few examples!
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_upping_ante_atom_screen_resolution
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10249250-64.html
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How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about existing netbooks - I see absolutely no point having that sort of resolution on a 7" or 10" device *regardless* of price.
Best I've seen (and had!) was 1600x768 on a 8" Vaio P, and that was over 2 years ago. However, it really was too small for that resolution. One of the reasons that it was more expensive was because it did not fit into either MS or Intels definition of netbook and therefore, had was not permitted to use low cost Windows (Vista at that time), and the Z-series Atoms over the N series.
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Dave
G'day guys,
I've decided to buy me a tablet for the FIRST time....did a little bit of research and found that the Galaxy Tab is looking the best so far in the market before the Quad-cores ones come out.
Apart from being the thinnest and lightest tablet in the market, compare to other tablets, how is the performance? I have also heard that its screen is also the brightest and most vibrant.
Is this tablet considered to be quite old now?
Any other pros and cons?
THANKS!
If i was you, I would just wait for the upcoming tablets which are coming out early next year. but if you don't want to wait then with all the other tablets out there currently, I would have to say the Gtab 10.1 is by far one of the best with it's light weight and nice display.
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If i was you, I would just wait for the upcoming tablets which are coming out early next year. but if you don't want to wait then with all the other tablets out there currently, I would have to say the Gtab 10.1 is by far one of the best with it's light weight and nice display.
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How much more will those tablets be when they come out? Because I don't think I'm going to spend that much money on my first tablet as I have recently upgrade my Streak to a GNote
The G-Tab is the best of the first generation of tablets. It's thinner, lighter, built better, has better audio and video drivers, and a better display. However, the first wave of second generation tablets is about to arrive. Asus, Acer,Lenovo, and HTC have already announced quad-core tablets. The Asus Prime is already available for pre-order in the U.S. I'd call it a 1.5 tablet. It's specs are pretty similar to the G-Tab with the addition of a quad-core Nvidia Teg 3 (we have Teg 2) processor. It's shipping with 3.2 but Asus has said it will be the first tablet on the market to get ICS. Lenovo, Acer, and HTC's tablets are 2.0 because they'll have 2MB of RAM (vs. 1MB) and higher definition displays (1920×1200). I'm guessing they'll ship with ICS. So the Asus will be first but soon after will be trumped by better tablets. If you need/want 3G that changes things because so far none of the new-gen tablets have been confirmed in anything but Wi-Fi versions. So, you'll be happy with a G-Tab, especially after it gets ICS which should smooth a lot of the rough edges, but there's better featured choices just around the corner.
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The G-Tab is the best of the first generation of tablets. It's thinner, lighter, built better, has better audio and video drivers, and a better display. However, the first wave of second generation tablets is about to arrive. Asus, Acer,Lenovo, and HTC have already announced quad-core tablets. The Asus Prime is already available for pre-order in the U.S. I'd call it a 1.5 tablet. It's specs are pretty similar to the G-Tab with the addition of a quad-core Nvidia Teg 3 (we have Teg 2) processor. It's shipping with 3.2 but Asus has said it will be the first tablet on the market to get ICS. Lenovo, Acer, and HTC's tablets are 2.0 because they'll have 2MB of RAM (vs. 1MB) and higher definition displays (1920×1200). I'm guessing they'll ship with ICS. So the Asus will be first but soon after will be trumped by better tablets. If you need/want 3G that changes things because so far none of the new-gen tablets have been confirmed in anything but Wi-Fi versions. So, you'll be happy with a G-Tab, especially after it gets ICS which should smooth a lot of the rough edges, but there's better featured choices just around the corner.
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He means GB not MB, One Mb of ram couldnt run a calendar widget.
thanks guys...I think you are both right....I am going to prob wait for the 2nd generation of tablets....especially with the price of the transformer prime being less than $500
Hi guys,
I really like what I read about the upcoming Galaxy Note 10.1. My personal preferences in the tablet: do care about thickness, weight, IPS screen, screen size, battery life, build quality, future Android updates, storage expansion (somewhat); don't really care about: things like pen input; 1280x800 vs. 1920x1200 resolution, ability to make phone calls from.
So, I've noticed that there are a couple of contenders out there (or very soon to be released):
1 - IdeaTab S2110; currently out; similar specs 10" screen; same size, weight and thickness; similar battery performance(?); no MicroSD card; v4.0.x; only $399
2 - MediaPad 10 FHD; out in August supposedly; 1920x1200 10" screen; same size, weight and thickness; v4.0.x; under $500 is what I've read
Both offer an optional keyboard which not only extends the battery life but also adds some extra ports, and MicroSD one for IdeaTab.
So, *with* the above criteria, why would someone pick the upcoming Note 10.1 over those and perhaps similar contenders? Or may be I can phrase it differently: why would *you* pick Note 10.1 over all other choices?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Easy that one. It's by Samsung. As much as people like to ***** about their support its still better than a lot of the smaller players in the tablet game. They have now built a ton of android devices and are getting pretty dang good at it.
I had a transformer prime and sold it to buy the lower spec galaxy tab 2. Why? If you root the prime you loose the ability to ever go back to stock Rom and ota updates. At least Samsung give you the freedom to hack your device and return it to stock at will. I'm pretty sure the flash counter will only be used to deny warranty if you do something silly like overclock until your cpu fries in which case it's clearly user error not a faulty device.
From here on in Samsung's getting my loyalty until other manufacturers stop being jerks to the modding community.
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I had a transformer prime and sold it to buy the lower spec galaxy tab 2. Why? If you root the prime you loose the ability to ever go back to stock Rom and ota updates. At least Samsung give you the freedom to hack your device and return it to stock at will. I'm pretty sure the flash counter will only be used to deny warranty if you do something silly like overclock until your cpu fries in which case it's clearly user error not a faulty device.
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Thanks. Yeah, I don't appreciate shenanigans like that either. "Upgradeability" is high on my last as well, which I didn't mention. That's why I didn't actually include Toshiba Excite there, which supposedly comes with a locked bootloader. I hear Lenovo is so-so about providing timely/any updates either. So, that one may be out as well. Don't know much about Huawei tbhwy.
Note 10.1 specs looks really good, especially given the performance of the similarly equipped SGS3 although the screen is going to be it's downfall... I don't mind 1280x800, but the Tab2's 1280x800 is not nearly as crisp as the Transformer Prime's 1280x800 IPS display.
Unfortunately, I do not see a better Android contender at the moment... the transformer infinity seems to be another Asus beta product and suffers with poor i/o performance.
Looking forward to the Samsung announcements today. Hope it is at US retailers right away.
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Note 10.1 specs looks really good, especially given the performance of the similarly equipped SGS3 although the screen is going to be it's downfall... I don't mind 1280x800, but the Tab2's 1280x800 is not nearly as crisp as the Transformer Prime's 1280x800 IPS display.
Unfortunately, I do not see a better Android contender at the moment... the transformer infinity seems to be another Asus beta product and suffers with poor i/o performance.
Looking forward to the Samsung announcements today. Hope it is at US retailers right away.
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Thanks.
Mod(s) should probably move this thread to Note forum.
Why would they move it? Hmm.
I'd like a ten inch tablet after having a few sevens. Never had a ten. I think I'd like it more.
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Why would they move it? Hmm.
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There is a Galaxy Note dedicated forum now and when I posted it originally there wasn't any.
The Samsung Series 7 is a few months newer, has better specs, thinner and lighter. But is $1200.
The Asus Eee EP121 is a year old, lower in specs. But it has a bigger screen, and I can get a refurbished one for $600.
For sure the Samsung slate is worth more, but is it 200% better?
I am leaning towards the Asus. The problem is, many nicer Windows 8 tablets are starting to come out in October, but I need it for classes in Sept. I am thinking, I could sell the Asus a few months from now to upgrade, probably at $300 (taking a loss of $300). But if I have a Samsung, I don't think I'll be able to sell it even at $900.
What are you thoughts? Which one will you get?
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The Samsung Series 7 is a few months newer, has better specs, thinner and lighter. But is $1200.
The Asus Eee EP121 is a year old, lower in specs. But it has a bigger screen, and I can get a refurbished one for $600.
For sure the Samsung slate is worth more, but is it 200% better?
I am leaning towards the Asus. The problem is, many nicer Windows 8 tablets are starting to come out in October, but I need it for classes in Sept. I am thinking, I could sell the Asus a few months from now to upgrade, probably at $300 (taking a loss of $300). But if I have a Samsung, I don't think I'll be able to sell it even at $900.
What are you thoughts? Which one will you get?
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If you have to choose, DON'T get the EP121. I tried both, and the Samsung is way better so I got one. If I were you, I would wait to see what devices OEMs would release for Windows 8.
I went with the Samsung too. You can find it cheaper than $1200.
The Samsung build quality is much better. It feels like a true iPad killer. The ASUS feels like a plastic kids toy. The specs on the Samsung are much better too. The only thing I don't like about the Samsung is the rear cam is only 3megapixel.
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GO samsung. The ep121 doens't have enough resolution to do snap. The samsung does. You will miss out on that feature with any tablet that does less then 1366x768.
Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-memo-pad-fhd-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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Asus's tablets have very good devs. In fact they are the reasons why users do not leave Asus for their bad software support.
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Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
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Asus is the quickest OEM releasing the new update (yep, crap but quick very near stock one)
Normally the bootloader is unlocked, even locked but not hard to pass.
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It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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Yes, IMO it's a good selling point too, but now we still don't know the exact weight of the new Infinity. The dock is great, truely, that's why I bought three Asus tablets (tf201 is a nightmare though)
Definitely some impressive hardware from the new ASUS Infinity. It seems it has a great display as well, as expected from a SuperIPS panel and now at such high resolution. USB 3.0 is a good thing from the dock. $499 (dock included) would be a great price for such specs.
Weight is a big deal, personally. It's a 10.1, which means, if it's a kind of heavy tablet, it would be exhausting to use it for prolonged periods of time. I pre-ordered my XTZ, a week ago, but hasn't arrived yet. I think I'm gonna love it but I can deny that the ASUS Infinity would be a great option to wait for.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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The New Transformer Pad Infinity is the first in ASUS range of innovative dual-purpose mobile devices to feature a 1.9GHz NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 mobile processor with quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU and 72-core GeForce® GPU. The 10.1-inch LED backlit display has an ultra-sharp 2560 x 1600 resolution with IPS technology for 178-degree wide viewing angles, plus 10-point multi-touch for smooth and responsive fingertip control. ASUS SonicMaster-enhanced audio completes the mobile tablet entertainment experience. The redesigned keyboard dock now features a multi-touch touchpad, USB 3.0 and an SDXC card reader, and gives longer battery life when the tablet is docked.
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Source: Asus
http://press.asus.com/asus-transforms-expectations-for-computing-at-computex-2013/
I have been burned a few times on Asus tablets; the TF 201 had crappy wifi and gps reception, and the Infinity had terrible IO performance which made the tablet stutter badly when doing something like downloading an update, a file, etc. Also, the chassis started to separate from the screen bezel area on mine, and I barely used used it for a couple of months.
I like the innovation and many efforts that Asus makes when trying to do something different; but for me, build-quality is lacklustre. I would certainly wait for a while before going with any Asus tablet to see what the issues for that tablet will be. Perhaps they will grow of out these issues.
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