AT&T MicroSD Card w/Windows Phone Logo Spotted! - Focus General

http://windowsphonedaily.blogspot.com/2011/04/at-selling-official-microsd-cards-for.html
Original story here at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/windows-phone-7-certified-microsd-cards-emerge-at-atandt-stores/
FINALLY!

Any sign of 32 GB SD cards though? That's the only type of card not supported atm.

No this is only 8gb so far. Hopefully when they make it official they'll have 16gb and 32gb versions too.

Don"t you just love AT&T's ballooned price of $32 for an 8Gb card??

Pinger43 said:
Don"t you just love AT&T's ballooned price of $32 for an 8Gb card??
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Yeah thats what I was going to say. I just picked up a 16gig for $25 at Fry's this weekend. Not for a WP7 though mind you.

If I had to justify that $32, then I'd say that Microsoft and AT&T worked with Sandisk on selecting the manufactured cards that met the minimum performance requirements; all other manufactured cards get the regular consumer packaging.
Personally, I'm running a Sandisk class 2 8GB card (vs the Sandisk class 4 8GB card) and I haven't run into any detrimental issues yet. Performance is choppy/laggy once in a while though...
Michael.

Apparently PNY will be offering a 32 gb class 4 WP7 card avaliable at Best Buy. That was speculation on the web, though there is a picture advertising it, but nothing official on the PNY site or Best Buy site...yet.

siralex241 said:
Apparently PNY will be offering a 32 gb class 4 WP7 card avaliable at Best Buy. That was speculation on the web, though there is a picture advertising it, but nothing official on the PNY site or Best Buy site...yet.
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Actually I think that one was a mix up on PNY's part. Wasn't that story from like January?

Got mine
Hey, I bought my ATT approved Windows Phone microsd card April 15, 2011 and I'm glad I did. I know it was a little high, but it works and it is reliable. It has not caused any problems. Given past memory card problems, I am not complaining. I didn't mind paying extra for consistant performance and reliabality. By the way, the packaging of this card does have the Windows Phone and round WP7 logo located on the top right hand corner of the packaging and the AT&T logo on the lower right hand corner of the packaging. As of today, 5-25-2011 still no issues and working perfectly.

I note under the AT&T site for accessories for the focus it lists a Class 2 Sandisk Micro SDHC card for 79.99
Adding link:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...TM)+-+Black&q_sku=sku4980540#fbid=mDVcGxoCjhm
under the phone image click on the compatible accessories tab. Around 1/2 way down is a section titled Memory and you can see the card there.

hx4700 Killer said:
I note under the AT&T site for accessories for the focus it lists a Class 2 Sandisk Micro SDHC card for 79.99
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80 bucks!?!?!?! How many gigs?

it was 16GB but when I went to a local store they had a 50% off sticker so it was $40 + tax. Sandisk Class 2 16GB, NO windows phone 7 logo just like the pic on the web site though.

hx4700 Killer said:
it was 16GB but when I went to a local store they had a 50% off sticker so it was $40 + tax. Sandisk Class 2 16GB, NO windows phone 7 logo just like the pic on the web site though.
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I called ATT support because I wanted to find out something about the focus. Fake tech issue you can call it
But during the conversation he said microsoft has not certified any cards as of yet. He said they sell cards that work but none yet is officially certified by microsoft. Idk if thats true but I have not seen a sd card with windows logo yet. He also was explaining how the focus was the only phone to have a sd slot.

astaccz said:
I called ATT support because I wanted to find out something about the focus. Fake tech issue you can call it
But during the conversation he said microsoft has not certified any cards as of yet. He said they sell cards that work but none yet is officially certified by microsoft. Idk if thats true but I have not seen a sd card with windows logo yet. He also was explaining how the focus was the only phone to have a sd slot.
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I dont know when if ever MS will put their stamp on a card, but trust me the sandisk cards work.

Yeah I am running the 16GB Class 2 sandisk from the AT&T store and have had zero problems yet and its been 5 days.
Editting to add that it is NOT labeled windows phone 7, it is just a repacked standard Sandisk Class 2 card.

So an AT&T rep told me that if you bought the AT&T WP7 approved SD card that you could pull it out, put it in any PC an read the info on it without issue just like any other SD card.
????

Thats a load of crap Tiggah. The card is formatted using the Secure Digital technology. Locking it to the phone and ONLY that phone.
Can you put it in another phone and see data? No. Can you format it? Yes.
Can I put it in my computer and see data? No. (I tried this FYI and nothing)
Can I see data via the sync cable and the two reg hacks? yes.

So just wanted to update this with a few things. After more than a week with teh 16GB Class 2 Sandisk SD card my phone has worked perfectly.
Yesterday I needed to take some data home from work and used the reg hacks to see the Phone in explorer and transfer enough data to leave it about 600MB free.
When I got home I did the same reg hacks and started having trouble copying the data off. On one file the phone would just reboot.
No matter what I did it would reboot and come up and tell me my SD card was corrupt and to format it.
I would just pull the battery and reboot and it was ok again. I was never able to get that one file but was able to get the rest.
So a word of warning... if you want more memory to do what I did, don't complain if you start having problems.
Your taking an unsupported SD card and using it in an unsupported fashion via explorer. Don't cry about it later.

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HD2 Largest Micro SD card?

Hey guys,
Whats the largest micro sd I can place in my Leo... Currently have an 8 GB in there but am quickly filling it since having movies / music on it like no tomorrow!!
Any help would be great, thanks dudes.
You didn't find the answer anywhere on the net? In that case, they can hold a max of 128GB.
dmonuk said:
Hey guys,
Whats the largest micro sd I can place in my Leo... Currently have an 8 GB in there but am quickly filling it since having movies / music on it like no tomorrow!!
Any help would be great, thanks dudes.
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I've got a 16GB in mine and it works perfectly. I'll get a 32GB but want the price to drop before I do. They're still quite pricey.
16GB is suiting me fine. I have a seperate 8GB one for putting movies and stuff on. It just means I have to have CorePlayer installed on the device so I can switch cards and still play movies.
Edit:
Ignore the above comment by lude219. 128GB cards won't be available until next year at the earliest. 32GB is currently the largest on the market. There will be 64GB (and possibly 48GB) soon, but not yet.
Thank you johncmolyneux, I think I might wait a bit and get a 32gb just to be sure!
Thanks for your help dude.
*Any mods may now close this thread as I have had a helpful answer.*
Where can you buy 32Gb microSD cards? I wasn't aware of that they have arrived.
Tubgirl said:
Where can you buy 32Gb microSD cards? I wasn't aware of that they have arrived.
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Amazon\
Ebay
bestbuy
craiglist
expansys
sandisk
Nope.....
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Not true, Sandisk does not have a 32GB microSDHC card on the market at present. Maximum capacity is 16GB only (class 2 and class 4).
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can't find any 32gb micro sds on amazon or ebay? only normal sized SDHC cards.
Samsung expect their 32GB to be in the market by February according to their recent announcement, I expect Sandisk will want to be released for sale by then also.
Class 6 cards are available from non-Sandisk manufacturers by the way.
im guessing the will charge a ridculous amount...probs about £50 or some ****
16 Gb is the maximum today.
There is NO 32 gb on the market at this time, but expected.
Read that HD2 support 64GB microSD cards. Has anybody got a 64GB card in HD2? How much does it cost?
32GB
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msdivy said:
Read that HD2 support 64GB microSD cards. Has anybody got a 64GB card in HD2? How much does it cost?
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Microsdhc only supports sizes up to 32gb. We wont be seeing 64gb cards except with sdxc, but hd2 doesn't support sdxc.
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question...
zarathustrax said:
Microsdhc only supports sizes up to 32gb. We wont be seeing 64gb cards except with sdxc, but hd2 doesn't support sdxc.
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is that because of hardware or software? i had an old HTC Excalibur that ran winmo 5.0 back in the day. got a 8 gig card that wouldn't read in it until i flashed it to winmo 6.5. after that, it read the card no problem. funny thing is the 'fine folks' over at T-Mobile assured me that nothing over 4GB would ever work in my phone.
so i wonder, with our devices being able to run winmo, android, different variations of linux, etc... could it be just a software problem?
The HTC HD2 can only hold up to a 32 gig 2.0 Micro SD card. Click the link for proof, notice the "Expansion" in the spec list, oh yeah this is straight from HTC.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs
interesting info
so i started surfing around, looking for more info on this topic. i found a thread from another forum citing some interesting conversation regarding the same issue. to quote from page 5 of that forum...
"What the SD 4.0 specification will add is another pin to SDXC cards which will enable the higher read/write speeds. The rest of the pins will still be present and will still act exactly like they used to. So SDXC cards will always be compatible with SDHC readers, you just won't be able to read/write from them at 300mbit/s. And that's where a firmware update can't change things; no firmware update will allow the camera to use an SDXC card at its full, currently-non-existent future speed because that extra pin interface won't be present.
'But a firmware update CAN add support for exFAT, so all the other benefits of SDXC can in fact be added to our cameras through a firmware update. These benefits include higher capacities, larger maximum file size, and faster file deleting (because that's an exFAT feature, not an SDXC feature).
'It should be noted that the higher capacities have nothing to do with exFAT. FAT32 can have volumes up to 2 TB in size. The 32GB limit on SDHC cards was artificially imposed by the SD 2.0 specification, and has now been lifted with SD 3.0. However, the larger maximum file size IS a benefit of exFAT, because files used to be limited to 4 GB on FAT32."
so i gotta think this will also apply to any other device that can physically run an SDHC card.
let the debate begin
btw, quoted the line from the following forum, for reference:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/90655-new-firmware-pentax-k-7-1-03-a.html
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so i started surfing around, looking for more info on this topic. i found a thread from another forum citing some interesting conversation regarding the same issue. to quote from page 5 of that forum...
"What the SD 4.0 specification will add is another pin to SDXC cards which will enable the higher read/write speeds. The rest of the pins will still be present and will still act exactly like they used to. So SDXC cards will always be compatible with SDHC readers, you just won't be able to read/write from them at 300mbit/s. And that's where a firmware update can't change things; no firmware update will allow the camera to use an SDXC card at its full, currently-non-existent future speed because that extra pin interface won't be present.
'But a firmware update CAN add support for exFAT, so all the other benefits of SDXC can in fact be added to our cameras through a firmware update. These benefits include higher capacities, larger maximum file size, and faster file deleting (because that's an exFAuiT feature, not an SDXC feature).
'It should be noted that the higher capacities have nothing to do with exFAT. FAT32 can have volumes up to 2 TB in size. The 32GB limit on SDHC cards was artificially imposed by the SD 2.0 specification, and has now been lifted with SD 3.0. However, the larger maximum file size IS a benefit of exFAT, because files used to be limited to 4 GB on FAT32."
so i gotta think this will also apply to any other device that can physically run an SDHC card.
let the debate begin
btw, quoted the line from the following forum, for reference:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/90655-new-firmware-pentax-k-7-1-03-a.html
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Hmmmm interesting conversation there, I read all six pages by the way. The one guy seemed to be pretty sure of himself. But from what he said if you use a SDXC card that uses extFAT in a decice that does not support extFAT. It will reformat it with Fat 32 making it a regular SDHC card without the extra advantage of the higher speeds that a SDXC reader that does support extFAT can use.
right, that's what i got out of it too. but the big bonus there is that even with the reformat, the space on that card is still accessible, be it 'just' sdhc speeds. that's ok though, cuz that's what we're used to. i'd really like some of the xda developers to take a look at this and see what they can do.
on a somewhat related note, there's a program i use on my laptop called 'macdrive' which allows me to view previously unrecognized files and partitions which windows doesn't see naturally. this allows me to tri-boot (linux, mac, and windows) and modify each of those partitions from any one of the systems.
point here, is that even if there is initially a problem reading the data on a sdxc card, it seems that problem is only with the software not hardware and therefore can be modified.
if i could program i'd start experimenting myself.
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right, that's what i got out of it too. but the big bonus there is that even with the reformat, the space on that card is still accessible, be it 'just' sdhc speeds. that's ok though, cuz that's what we're used to. i'd really like some of the xda developers to take a look at this and see what they can do.
on a somewhat related note, there's a program i use on my laptop called 'macdrive' which allows me to view previously unrecognized files and partitions which windows doesn't see naturally. this allows me to tri-boot (linux, mac, and windows) and modify each of those partitions from any one of the systems.
point here, is that even if there is initially a problem reading the data on a sdxc card, it seems that problem is only with the software not hardware and therefore can be modified.
if i could program i'd start experimenting myself.
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This is very true, and I am in the same boot as you. I wish I had the dev knowledge and skills to start working on something for this, or a real dev could get there hands on this and see what is possible. I guess the only true way to put this to the test is for someone to get there hands on one of these beast of a SD card (64 to 128 gig what ) and stick it in the HD2 to see what it does.

Samsung Focus SD card?

If you believe that it looks like we can add an additional 32 Gig SD card to the Samsung focus prior to initializing it (or at least requiring a hard reset after it is inserted), exactly what is the type of card which we may utilize? Brand and type, or even better, a link to an example would be an ideal answer. TIA.
If this thing really does need to be in the phone before it is set up, or require a hard reset, I may as well have the thing (SD card) in my hot little hand before I walk into an att store and the clerk tries to slip the battery in the phone.
Is a standard Micro SD all that is required?
http://wmpoweruser.com/expandable-storage-confirmed-in-windows-phone-7-required-a-hard-reset/
According to Microsoft it requires a special high-performance sd card so I doubt a normal one will work. If it does work you probably won't like the performance. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/sd-cards-and-my-phone.aspx
i read that they will be availalbe at att store where you purchase your phone.. may cost more than other places but without knowing what type may have to wait til phone is released..
Hmmm...I cannot find a US vendor to purchase one of these:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1119
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Hmmm...I cannot find a US vendor to purchase one of these:
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Expected release date November 8, Carrier AT&T according to Phonearena.
From what I have read, the special part of this is the way the OS creates a RAID to combine internal and external memory. I suspect that a class 6 card will work perfectly.
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With it being extra important that the Micro SDHC card doesn't fail; which brands of flash do you people recommend?
I have had a 8GB class 6 Transcend card in my LG Xenon for almost 2 years. Used it in my GPS, and my daughters DSi, and have added countless movies to it. It's been heavily used and hasn't failed. But when I go to buy 16GB the reviews aren't so high on the Transcend.
* I can't find a reference on PhoneArena to the above mentioned Samsung 30nm-class, High-density NAND Flash for Mobile Devices. Were you referring to the phone it's self being released on Nov 8th?
Has anyone any word of the type of SD card we will need to get?
On the AT&T wireless message board there's a posting of an email from Jeff Bradley, AT&T Senior VP of devices, that states it will support a class 2 or higher microSD card.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Focus-usable-SD-card-specs/m-p/2532157
AHHHH....
"Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices.
When your phone is built and first set up, its internal storage and SD card are combined and recognized as one storage system," -Microsoft
I believe this is referring to the 1GB ROM internal storage(for operating system) and 8GB internalSD card flash both being the Samsung 30nm NANDHP Flash
I've read posts around the net about a Samsung rep stating the MicroSD just under the battery cover would be removable. I'm starting to see that as a possibility.
I just received an email back from Samsung Tech Support.
My Question: " SGH-i917 Focus for AT&T, need clarification on MicroSD slot
Are MicroSD flash drives used in the slot under the battery cover capable of being removed with out hard resetting the phone/operating system (Windows Phone 7)?
I'm not referring to the internal 8GB memory in the core of the phone. "
Their Answer: " Thank you for your inquiry. If you are referring to the memory card that you have on the phone, it will not affect the functionality of the phone either the operating system of the phone.
Should you desire additional assistance resolving this, we invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.
We thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Carissa Joy "
***EDIT***UPDATE***
OK, just got off phone with Samsung tech support, via the phone # above.
She told me that the MicroSD card slot under the battery cover WILL BE REMOVABLE WITHOUT HARD RESET of the phone.
That I can use multiple MicroSD cards with the phone, i.e. adding movies to multiple MicroSD flash drives for a vacation.
AS LONG AS the flash drive is only used in the SGH-i917 Focus and a Computer.
If added to another phone or device it may require reformatting before using in the Focus again.
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That I can use multiple MicroSD cards with the phone, i.e. adding movies to multiple MicroSD flash drives for a vacation.
AS LONG AS the flash drive is only used in the SGH-i917 Focus and a Computer.
If added to another phone or device it may require reformatting before using in the Focus again.
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That is just so contrary to anything and everything we've seen so far that it is hard to credit.
I've already ordered a class 6 16GB card (the Transcend, I hope it fares better than the reviews cited above) but I ordered it for the additional storage, not with any expectation of being able to swap it in and out or use on a computer.
As far as hoping for anything more, it would only be that a class 6 card might perform better than a class 0 or 2 which others in the HD7 forum report are being shipped in the HD7.
Well I doubt the tier one tech support agent knows more then the hands on reviewers online. Based on the comparisons, I think the Focus uses at least class 4 or 6 speed internal memory. Every video and head to head comparison Ive see thinks the Focus is faster the its comp. I did notice updated spec stating 512MB RAM, 1GB Flash Rom (Prior was 1GB ROM), 8GB Flash Storage. I think the Flash ROM is Samsung's Nano Flash chips, the 8GB storage Ive read to be ScanDisk. Does ScanDisk use Samsung flash chips?
A week from today the answers and im sure more questions will start flooding in.
I got the Focus this morning, and I tried a run-of-the-mill class 2 SanDisk 16GB card, and after doing a hard reset, its working like a charm. 22GB of memory for me. Doesn't appear to have degraded my performance, either.
Where do you lookup the available memory? I've inserted a class 4 16GB Lexar card but I don't know where to look to verify the memory.
memory card
what's being told to all att employees is that we are not to sell any memory cards with the phone because they're not supposed to work with any of the ones we carry. I've been afraid to put one in mine because of this but if its been working for ya'll idk what to believe now.
Rep at the att store told me this morning that theyre working on an OTA software update to correct this SD card issue, so hopefully it'll be sometime soon.
Has anyone tried using the 16Gb Kingston Class 6 card in the Focus? Results?
My 16GB class 6 card is working great. 22GB of storage.
Go to settings, about and it will tell you have much storage. I had to hit reset phone under that page for it to work.
I installed a 16GB class 6 card in mine this morning and it was working fine, then after reading of a problem after a soft reset I tried it and sure enough, it forgot everything I'd set up and I had to start over.

[Q] Slow Zune Sync With Replaced MSD?

Has anyone replaced their micro SD card and experienced the Zune sync pretty much hanging the device? I replaced it with a Kingston 32GB C4 card and it all seemed to work fine until I went to sync. I can get about 10, maybe 20 songs, sync'd, then it freezes. Kinda sucks.
I'd be very interested to hear how this goes - I have to wait at least aother month for my Venue Pro and I have a Sandisk 32GB C4 card waiting for it, so I will end up in the same boat as you.
(Except mine's Sandisk rather than Kingston, of course)
Please keep us posted on what happens. Incidentally, did you try another hard reset yet?
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Has anyone replaced their micro SD card and experienced the Zune sync pretty much hanging the device? I replaced it with a Kingston 32GB C4 card and it all seemed to work fine until I went to sync. I can get about 10, maybe 20 songs, sync'd, then it freezes. Kinda sucks.
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Sync'd over 100 songs last night on my SanDisk 16GB Class 2 and it went swimmingly.
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Sync'd over 100 songs last night on my SanDisk 16GB Class 2 and it went swimmingly.
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2 differences here: brand of the card, class
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2 differences here: brand of the card, class
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The OP asked if anyone who's replaced the card is experiencing issues. I said I'm not. I'm also using a supposedly slower card. I wasn't implying that the OP is wrong in any way.
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The OP asked if anyone who's replaced the card is experiencing issues. I said I'm not. I'm also using a supposedly slower card. I wasn't implying that the OP is wrong in any way.
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No I am simply saying that the brand and class could affect the performance.
Maybe Sandisk and Class 2 are better for the dell venue pro?
Yeah, I dunno. I picked up another 16GB Patriot C4 - haven't tried that yet. I did a soft reset and cleared all apps, seems to be *somewhat* better although it's definitely not right still. I'll probably swap out the card again and give it ago.
Where were you able to find a 32GB SanDisk C4?
I got mine from Amazon 2 weeks ago. It was like $90 with same day delivery.
16GB Patriot...better, but still not great. Replaced the stock 8GB card and it appears to work as normal. I'll order the SanDisk one - seems like that's the way to go.
Edit: And did you get a C2 or a C4? I can find the C2 on their site, but the only C4s I see are Kingston and other brands.
Class four, even though the picture depicted a class two when I received it it was a class four card.
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Class four, even though the picture depicted a class two when I received it it was a class four card.
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Same here, ordered the class 2, received a class 4.
Now if I could just order the phone or get a ride from here to the local Microsoft store (darn hatred of driving) I'd be all set. I guess if waiting all this time hasn't killed me another week or two shouldn't be tha- I NEEDS IT NOW!!!!
nathanysmith said:
Has anyone replaced their micro SD card and experienced the Zune sync pretty much hanging the device? I replaced it with a Kingston 32GB C4 card and it all seemed to work fine until I went to sync. I can get about 10, maybe 20 songs, sync'd, then it freezes. Kinda sucks.
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Are you sure it's a genuine 32Gb card? So many fakes floating around that bomb out after you try to copy more than a couple of hundred Mb to them.
Yeah...1.) It's Kingston, which is a brand I think most people trust. 2.) The device shows ~30GB of free space after the reset...so yeah, pretty sure Plus, the issue still occurs, just at a smaller scale, with the 16GB card I got, from another reputable manufacturer.
Thus far, it's taken about 1hr to copy ~850MB of files over =/
There's the issue with WP7... By the time you realise it's not an issue with the card but with your device, you're out of warranty .
Warranties are not worth a thing. What matters is the Sale of Goods act. A manufacturer cannot refuse to repare a faulty device just because you peeled a label off and replaced a card. Unless the fault is caused by the replacement of the card.
You might have to threaten them with Small Claims court action, but rest assured you'll win.
Voiding a warranty is not the same thing as losing your consumer rights. Warranties are provided by manufacturers, consumer rights are provided by law. Law trumps manufacturers. End of.
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Warranties are not worth a thing. What matters is the Sale of Goods act. A manufacturer cannot refuse to repare a faulty device just because you peeled a label off and replaced a card. Unless the fault is caused by the replacement of the card.
You might have to threaten them with Small Claims court action, but rest assured you'll win.
Voiding a warranty is not the same thing as losing your consumer rights. Warranties are provided by manufacturers, consumer rights are provided by law. Law trumps manufacturers. End of.
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Doesnt really apply since the Dell isnt available anywhere apart from the US which doesnt have such laws. However we can sue so I guess it evens out in the end.
It's also kind of a hard sell because it works perfectly with the stock 8GB card, so it's kind of hard to call it a fault with the device.
Minor update:
Purchased a 16GB Wintec Class 10 and it did ~850MB in around a minute or so. Definitely closer to what I'd expect.
for those who bought 'class 4' Sandisk - I've found nothing on SD's site to indicate that they even make a C4 card...so, i dunno what to say about that =/ Bought a class 2 32GB from newegg...should be here monday. Hope that works out so I can actually replace my ZuneHD
Sandisk 32GB Class 2 card in my DVP right now. No issues, loaded it up with a ton of videos and music and its working well. About 10GB free of the 30GB right now.

Ordered my Focus!!! - Micro SDHC Question

I ordered the Samsung Focus with Amazon Wireless for one penny and a two year contract with AT&T! Couldn't be any happier with that.
Anyway, I ordered a case:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00495YF8A/ref=oss_product
And a screen protector (I know it's tough to scratch but eh, why not. Lol)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003F8C1GK/ref=oss_product
So I've been thinking about how much memory is on the phone. 8GB is nice but I will want to put a few of my 720P movies onto the Focus. I figured I could get 8B Micro SDHC (Class 10) and it would make it, 16GB. That's pretty decent, right? I think it will hold me over... Lol.
I did some research and I get the higher the class, the higher the write speeds. Right?
Well, what do ya'll think of this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220493
Thanks in advance everyone!!!
8gb is good enough for me....for now! Ill be buying a 16gb card soon enough tho because everytime you change the sd card you have to do a full reset on your phone, so id rather just do it now and get it all over with. So, what im trying to tell you is just get yourself a 16gb card if you going to be adding 720p movies...that way you wont really need to worry about changing the card later. As for the class...class 10 is unnecessary....class 2 has been proven to be VERY sufficient in the focus...even class 4. I had a class 6 and now I have a class 2 and there is NO difference in performance on my focus. Anyways, as for sd cards, be careful because some aren't working properly....I would say your safest bet is buying Sandisk...since thats what Samsung is using in the focus for memory right now.
Hope this helps!
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8gb is good enough for me....for now! Ill be buying a 16gb card soon enough tho because everytime you change the sd card you have to do a full reset on your phone, so id rather just do it now and get it all over with. So, what im trying to tell you is just get yourself a 16gb card if you going to be adding 720p movies...that way you wont really need to worry about changing the card later. As for the class...class 10 is unnecessary....class 2 has been proven to be VERY sufficient in the focus...even class 4. I had a class 6 and now I have a class 2 and there is NO difference in performance on my focus. Anyways, as for sd cards, be careful because some aren't working properly....I would say your safest bet is buying Sandisk...since thats what Samsung is using in the focus for memory right now.
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Well, if I put a 720P movie on there, I'll just delete it once I'm finished watching it. Not going to have more than a few gigs of music too. So 8GB is good for me. Obviously once you put a movie on there you can delete it and get your memory back, correct? Sounds nooby but just double checkin... Lol. The higher the class the faster it gets on the card, right?
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i got a sandisk 16g class 4 from radio shack cost about $34, had it in since two weeks before christmas.... loaded it almost full, empted most of it out loaded and unloaded stuff, havn't had any problems so far....... been running strong and just as fast as without the card...
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Well, if I put a 720P movie on there, I'll just delete it once I'm finished watching it. Not going to have more than a few gigs of music too. So 8GB is good for me. Obviously once you put a movie on there you can delete it and get your memory back, correct? Sounds nooby but just double checkin... Lol. The higher the class the faster it gets on the card, right?
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correct...once you delete things you get your space back. I didn't notice much difference in transfer speed between my class 6 and class 2. So if you can, just save yourself the money and get class 4. There was an article I read somewhere that a higher class can actually make performance worse on the phone. Don't know how true it is, but class 2 has been perfect for me. No difference anywhere.
You need too spend some time reading this thread before buying a microsd card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=3
Determining whether an SD card is Windows Phone 7 compliant is not a simple matter of judging its speed class. Several other factors, such as the number of random read/write operations per second, play a role in determining how well an SD card performs with Windows Phone 7 devices.
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
A higher speed class can actually work against you because sometimes the maker sacrifices random operations for speed.
You can either wait for official "windows phone 7 certified" cards or take your chances. Read the first post carefully, especially the most recent posts. I personally have been using a 16gb Samsung card with no problems. Caveat emptor.
Sweet, thanks for the info.
This one looks promising...
Patriot Signature 16GB Micro SDHC Class 4 Flash Card Model PSF16GMCSDHC43P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220524
If you read the feedback, nothing but positive reviews.
"Pros: Very good price to performance ratio. Works with the Samsung Focus. Good read write speeds.
Cons: None
Other Thoughts: Not sure why some say negatives about the speed of the card. Maybe they got a bad one, but this tested out at just under 4.5gb write speeds. I had been using a Sandisk class 2 card with my Samsung Focus, but it would do some random rebooting and crashing. With this card it has been absoulutly perfect for over a week of use. I have 15gb of music and photos on the phone so I know that I am using the memory card along with the 8gb that is onboard with the phone."
Kinda sold on this... Should I do it?!?!?!?! Buy it right now?!?!! lol
This is pretty much what I was asking in another thread. I want to go with a 32GB card as I don't want to go through hard reset if I ever need more memory later on.
What is a good 32GB tmicroSD card hat works with Focus with no issues? I would like name of manufacturer, class and even the part# so I can source locally (go to store or order online).
Thanks.
No lie, you're going to spend a lot of $ and 32GB is overkill.
PaullikesWINMO said:
This is pretty much what I was asking in another thread. I want to go with a 32GB card as I don't want to go through hard reset if I ever need more memory later on.
What is a good 32GB tmicroSD card hat works with Focus with no issues? I would like name of manufacturer, class and even the part# so I can source locally (go to store or order online).
Thanks.
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like I said before class 2 or 4 and Sandisk would be your safest bet.
smuook said:
You need too spend some time reading this thread before buying a microsd card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
A higher speed class can actually work against you because sometimes the maker sacrifices random operations for speed.
You can either wait for official "windows phone 7 certified" cards or take your chances. Read the first post carefully, especially the most recent posts. I personally have been using a 16gb Samsung card with no problems. Caveat emptor.
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thank you for posting that.
Cool, will do. Thanks
Might one of you be able to supply the MFG Part# of the working 32GB microSD cards you have ?
Patriot 16GB Class 4 working PERFECTLY!!!
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like I said before class 2 or 4 and Sandisk would be your safest bet.
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No sANDISK 16 GB class 2, THAT doesnt work, read the thread before you advise
jaraya13 said:
No sANDISK 16 GB class 2, THAT doesnt work, read the thread before you advise
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you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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LOL, 2 weeks, that's a lifetime. I am so going to laugh when it starts giving you troubles.
I see you have never read the whole thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&goto=newpost
In that thread you'll see that around 7 guys with that MicroSD had multiple problems with that card, including myself.
Good luck with that L!
Mr Patchy Patch said:
you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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After reading the large thread on compatible cards above, it seems the real test is if you've loaded over 8GB of data onto the SDHC card (or over 16GB total in your case) and don't experience any problems. If that's the case then that's awesome (and it also sadly verifies the fact that no one knows which brand of card really works than the Sandisk 8GB Class 2, which is mentioned in the official instruction manual).
To the OP, I've stuck with the 8GB Sandisk. I considered the OEM version for $12 USD available on Amazon but decided against it, and went with the retail packaged version, which I got at Radio Shack for $20 USD. 14 or so GB will be good enough until the official certified ones are announced.
well ill just refer to him as mr arse... but mr arse is partially correct.... mine was stable up to 15gb then after that it went downhill fast.... so give the dude a bit of a break....
Has anyone seen any OFFICIAL announcement that there will be APPROVED cards for WP7. I know that Sandisk tried to pull a fast one and say their's were approved but then pulled them. Is MS even allowing such a program?

32GB Class 4 Micro SDHC card problem

i bought a 32gb class 4 for my hd2 so i can run android off it, but when i insert the card into the phone. the phone freezez, wtf. i left it in there for half an hour and still nothing, the phone is still frozen. after i took the card out the phone unfroz and was working. i put it in my brothers HD2 and same problem, it freezez. i put the card in to a htc desire z and the phone picked it up, it looked through the files on the memory card. why the hell dont it work on my HD2. Now i bought this card from ebuyer. i hope it works man:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/218439
any ideas why it wont work and makes my fone freeze. looks like i will have to save the 32gb for a dual core nvidia tegra 2 phone.
does it freeze when you launch android or just freezes in winmo 6.5?
if it only freezes when you are launching android, backup the card then format it in winmo (you'll find under settings) and restore all files to it and give it a try
10076757 said:
i bought a 32gb class 4 for my hd2
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/218439
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I'm tempted to call BS...
That link takes you to a 16gb class6 SDHC card made by Lexar.
It also happens to be the highest capacity card they sell on that site. Trust me.. I looked.
Download h2testw, run a full test of you micro sdhc card and make sure it's functioning properly.
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2...standard-in-detecting-usb-counterfeit-drives/
dharvey4651 said:
I'm tempted to call BS...
That link takes you to a 16gb class6 SDHC card made by Lexar.
It also happens to be the highest capacity card they sell on that site. Trust me.. I looked.
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dont you read anything. i said now i bought this one with the eprovided link from ebuyer
it freezez in winmo.
Just in case someone is still having issues, this is what I experienced.
I bought a Sandisk 32gb micro card, formatted (quick) with windows, put it in the HD2, and had nothing but problems (many hours of trying different things) trying to watch AVI's, or even install larger CAB's.
I read here about the SD assoc. having a free format program (SDFormatterv3.0.zip), I downloaded it, installed it on my WIN7 machine, did a quick format, not much change, did a full format (took over 3 hours!) card now works perfectly. Amazing.
I sure this is not the case with all Micro cards, but it sure helped me. Oh, I did the formatting while the card was in the phone, the card was set as "Disk Drive". (settings, other, USB)
I can vouch for the official format program fixing problem cards.
Sent from my Atari 600XL using cassette tape and a stamp.
Well an update. The program does a very good job on formatting the micro card, but it does not detect a fake card! H2testw.exe does, excellent little program. Turns out my 32gb card was 2Gb! Windows and the SD format program both reported it Ok, but If I wrote over 2Gb, files disappeared or didn't work. (doah) just couldn't believe I got ripped. Anyway, buyer beware, and check those cards before you loose important data.
32 gig card
As far as I know the hd2 does not support any higher then a 16 gig micro sd.
It supports sdhc so up to 32GB.
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Shows what you know. Almost all the HTC phones produced in the last two years have the abilty to use 32gig cards.
That's what I said... Unless you're replying to another post, in which case - quote, if it's not directly above yours.
Sent from my Atari 600XL using cassette tape and a stamp.
Well I finally locked onto a 32gb card. Got it from Buy<DOT>com, quite a few for under $50 now. Ebay... <sigh> 99% of them are fake, defective or scams.
My Tmobile HD2 runs great with a class 4 32gb card.
All I can say is avoid Ebay for your cards.
For those running on Tmobile firmware (I do still) there is a new ROM release that radically improves battery life, I am getting 100% more op time. I am not a heavy user. (5 days now, vs 2 before)

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