Hey guys,
Whats the largest micro sd I can place in my Leo... Currently have an 8 GB in there but am quickly filling it since having movies / music on it like no tomorrow!!
Any help would be great, thanks dudes.
You didn't find the answer anywhere on the net? In that case, they can hold a max of 128GB.
dmonuk said:
Hey guys,
Whats the largest micro sd I can place in my Leo... Currently have an 8 GB in there but am quickly filling it since having movies / music on it like no tomorrow!!
Any help would be great, thanks dudes.
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I've got a 16GB in mine and it works perfectly. I'll get a 32GB but want the price to drop before I do. They're still quite pricey.
16GB is suiting me fine. I have a seperate 8GB one for putting movies and stuff on. It just means I have to have CorePlayer installed on the device so I can switch cards and still play movies.
Edit:
Ignore the above comment by lude219. 128GB cards won't be available until next year at the earliest. 32GB is currently the largest on the market. There will be 64GB (and possibly 48GB) soon, but not yet.
Thank you johncmolyneux, I think I might wait a bit and get a 32gb just to be sure!
Thanks for your help dude.
*Any mods may now close this thread as I have had a helpful answer.*
Where can you buy 32Gb microSD cards? I wasn't aware of that they have arrived.
Tubgirl said:
Where can you buy 32Gb microSD cards? I wasn't aware of that they have arrived.
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Amazon\
Ebay
bestbuy
craiglist
expansys
sandisk
Nope.....
Ace42 said:
Amazon\
Ebay
bestbuy
craiglist
expansys
sandisk
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Not true, Sandisk does not have a 32GB microSDHC card on the market at present. Maximum capacity is 16GB only (class 2 and class 4).
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Amazon\
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can't find any 32gb micro sds on amazon or ebay? only normal sized SDHC cards.
Samsung expect their 32GB to be in the market by February according to their recent announcement, I expect Sandisk will want to be released for sale by then also.
Class 6 cards are available from non-Sandisk manufacturers by the way.
im guessing the will charge a ridculous amount...probs about £50 or some ****
16 Gb is the maximum today.
There is NO 32 gb on the market at this time, but expected.
Read that HD2 support 64GB microSD cards. Has anybody got a 64GB card in HD2? How much does it cost?
32GB
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msdivy said:
Read that HD2 support 64GB microSD cards. Has anybody got a 64GB card in HD2? How much does it cost?
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Microsdhc only supports sizes up to 32gb. We wont be seeing 64gb cards except with sdxc, but hd2 doesn't support sdxc.
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question...
zarathustrax said:
Microsdhc only supports sizes up to 32gb. We wont be seeing 64gb cards except with sdxc, but hd2 doesn't support sdxc.
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is that because of hardware or software? i had an old HTC Excalibur that ran winmo 5.0 back in the day. got a 8 gig card that wouldn't read in it until i flashed it to winmo 6.5. after that, it read the card no problem. funny thing is the 'fine folks' over at T-Mobile assured me that nothing over 4GB would ever work in my phone.
so i wonder, with our devices being able to run winmo, android, different variations of linux, etc... could it be just a software problem?
The HTC HD2 can only hold up to a 32 gig 2.0 Micro SD card. Click the link for proof, notice the "Expansion" in the spec list, oh yeah this is straight from HTC.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs
interesting info
so i started surfing around, looking for more info on this topic. i found a thread from another forum citing some interesting conversation regarding the same issue. to quote from page 5 of that forum...
"What the SD 4.0 specification will add is another pin to SDXC cards which will enable the higher read/write speeds. The rest of the pins will still be present and will still act exactly like they used to. So SDXC cards will always be compatible with SDHC readers, you just won't be able to read/write from them at 300mbit/s. And that's where a firmware update can't change things; no firmware update will allow the camera to use an SDXC card at its full, currently-non-existent future speed because that extra pin interface won't be present.
'But a firmware update CAN add support for exFAT, so all the other benefits of SDXC can in fact be added to our cameras through a firmware update. These benefits include higher capacities, larger maximum file size, and faster file deleting (because that's an exFAT feature, not an SDXC feature).
'It should be noted that the higher capacities have nothing to do with exFAT. FAT32 can have volumes up to 2 TB in size. The 32GB limit on SDHC cards was artificially imposed by the SD 2.0 specification, and has now been lifted with SD 3.0. However, the larger maximum file size IS a benefit of exFAT, because files used to be limited to 4 GB on FAT32."
so i gotta think this will also apply to any other device that can physically run an SDHC card.
let the debate begin
btw, quoted the line from the following forum, for reference:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/90655-new-firmware-pentax-k-7-1-03-a.html
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so i started surfing around, looking for more info on this topic. i found a thread from another forum citing some interesting conversation regarding the same issue. to quote from page 5 of that forum...
"What the SD 4.0 specification will add is another pin to SDXC cards which will enable the higher read/write speeds. The rest of the pins will still be present and will still act exactly like they used to. So SDXC cards will always be compatible with SDHC readers, you just won't be able to read/write from them at 300mbit/s. And that's where a firmware update can't change things; no firmware update will allow the camera to use an SDXC card at its full, currently-non-existent future speed because that extra pin interface won't be present.
'But a firmware update CAN add support for exFAT, so all the other benefits of SDXC can in fact be added to our cameras through a firmware update. These benefits include higher capacities, larger maximum file size, and faster file deleting (because that's an exFAuiT feature, not an SDXC feature).
'It should be noted that the higher capacities have nothing to do with exFAT. FAT32 can have volumes up to 2 TB in size. The 32GB limit on SDHC cards was artificially imposed by the SD 2.0 specification, and has now been lifted with SD 3.0. However, the larger maximum file size IS a benefit of exFAT, because files used to be limited to 4 GB on FAT32."
so i gotta think this will also apply to any other device that can physically run an SDHC card.
let the debate begin
btw, quoted the line from the following forum, for reference:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/90655-new-firmware-pentax-k-7-1-03-a.html
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Hmmmm interesting conversation there, I read all six pages by the way. The one guy seemed to be pretty sure of himself. But from what he said if you use a SDXC card that uses extFAT in a decice that does not support extFAT. It will reformat it with Fat 32 making it a regular SDHC card without the extra advantage of the higher speeds that a SDXC reader that does support extFAT can use.
right, that's what i got out of it too. but the big bonus there is that even with the reformat, the space on that card is still accessible, be it 'just' sdhc speeds. that's ok though, cuz that's what we're used to. i'd really like some of the xda developers to take a look at this and see what they can do.
on a somewhat related note, there's a program i use on my laptop called 'macdrive' which allows me to view previously unrecognized files and partitions which windows doesn't see naturally. this allows me to tri-boot (linux, mac, and windows) and modify each of those partitions from any one of the systems.
point here, is that even if there is initially a problem reading the data on a sdxc card, it seems that problem is only with the software not hardware and therefore can be modified.
if i could program i'd start experimenting myself.
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right, that's what i got out of it too. but the big bonus there is that even with the reformat, the space on that card is still accessible, be it 'just' sdhc speeds. that's ok though, cuz that's what we're used to. i'd really like some of the xda developers to take a look at this and see what they can do.
on a somewhat related note, there's a program i use on my laptop called 'macdrive' which allows me to view previously unrecognized files and partitions which windows doesn't see naturally. this allows me to tri-boot (linux, mac, and windows) and modify each of those partitions from any one of the systems.
point here, is that even if there is initially a problem reading the data on a sdxc card, it seems that problem is only with the software not hardware and therefore can be modified.
if i could program i'd start experimenting myself.
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This is very true, and I am in the same boot as you. I wish I had the dev knowledge and skills to start working on something for this, or a real dev could get there hands on this and see what is possible. I guess the only true way to put this to the test is for someone to get there hands on one of these beast of a SD card (64 to 128 gig what ) and stick it in the HD2 to see what it does.
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Hello all, anyone know what the max card support for the universals sd/mmc reader is
Thanks
Hi there,
If I'm not wrong, the manual says clearly that universal can read/write SD cards up to 2GB (unless someone with a better expertise than me knows something different).
In any case, this is not completely right, many people uses 4GB cards (including me), but it seems that not all the applications can cope with them, photo camera is one of them, if I'm not wrong, it will not save the photos to the SD unless it has 2GB or less free space.
Somewhere else in this forum, someone else said that he even uses a sam..ung 8GB SD card (very expensive).
Hope this helps
kecido said:
Hi there,
If I'm not wrong, the manual says clearly that universal can read/write SD cards up to 2GB (unless someone with a better expertise than me knows something different).
In any case, this is not completely right, many people uses 4GB cards (including me), but it seems that not all the applications can cope with them, photo camera is one of them, if I'm not wrong, it will not save the photos to the SD unless it has 2GB or less free space.
Somewhere else in this forum, someone else said that he even uses a sam..ung 8GB SD card (very expensive).
Hope this helps
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Yup i use a 8GB Samsung SD Card to watch DVD's. I dont have the time to encode DVD's to avi xvid format so i just copy them directly to the 8GB card and watch them on the tcpmp player. Quite fun i believe. I am waiting for the 32GB SD Card release by samsung and sandisk.
im using the 4gb 150x sd card from mobymemory (£47) no probs! nice and quick too noticed tomtom load quicker.
also im using the newest qtek rom and the camera stores to card no probs (dont have to have 2gb used as per some other complaints)
Im getting the 4gb Transcend sd card soon.. im currently using 2gb transcend but I soon realized it still isnt enough...the bigger, the better of course
nuclear, I don't understand... how is an 8GB SD card possible??? 4GB should be the absolute max.
Does the Universal support SDHC in one of the newer ROMs or something?
joe_dude said:
nuclear, I don't understand... how is an 8GB SD card possible??? 4GB should be the absolute max.
Does the Universal support SDHC in one of the newer ROMs or something?
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Well the device will always show you 2000MB regardless of the ROM. But you can put more than 2000MB on your 8GB card and it will read all the files and you can use them. Its just that at this part the memory monitor will show your SD card in the negative section or full. All SD Card are compatible in the HTC Universal. Enjoy.
I am waiting for the 32GB SD Card by Samsung and SanDisk
Brain... does... not... compute.
Nuclear, I need more info. What card did you get? What brand? Is it SD or SDHC? How did you format it?
What's different about the Universal that makes it possible?!?
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Brain... does... not... compute.
Nuclear, I need more info. What card did you get? What brand? Is it SD or SDHC? How did you format it?
What's different about the Universal that makes it possible?!?
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Its a SD. Samsung 150X 8GB SD Card for $200 or so. I formatted it when i insert it into the Universal. Then i hooked it up to my PC. Transfered a DVD into it. And then back into the Universal and it played the DVD!!!
Hmmm I got one of these
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
MUCH faster transfers when you put it straight in your PC. I'm thinking of getting the new 2Gb version soon
nuclear
We all want to see your super card 8GB. Please will take photographs cards on background your universal or you have no photo?
In the same way report us address where we can book the card on 32 GB or you have no internet address?
I think nuclear you fibber!!!!!
nuclear said:
Well the device will always show you 2000MB regardless of the ROM.i think u must be wrong!
look my 4gb card, and its showing:3921.69 MB total
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well im just pretty much after a reliable card , one that will store my app data etc but im worried ill get one that wont be able to do what i want
well mines fine matey, nice and quick too, compared to my 1gb puremedia one. so ill recomend my 4gb 150X one from moby memory with 5 year waranty (free usb card reader too) about £47.
Thanks, ordering one now
iv currently got every single photo we have on our laptop of the kids (thousands) on the card. all my non vital apps, i just have handy menu, journal bar and a few others staying in the phones memory
then dumped the movies, saw3, world trade centre, happy feet and jackass2 on the card, plus tomtom uk & euro maps and still got just under a gig left
daddy k said:
iv currently got every single photo we have on our laptop of the kids (thousands) on the card. all my non vital apps, i just have handy menu, journal bar and a few others staying in the phones memory
then dumped the movies, saw3, world trade centre, happy feet and jackass2 on the card, plus tomtom uk & euro maps and still got just under a gig left
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My Universal screwed up my precious 4GB SanDisk Extreme III card and my 8GB Samsung. Literally it made my 8GB to 2GB and my 4GB to 2GB. I lost 6GB of space on my 8GB card into nothing. I am contacting tech support all day and this is what they posted. THE MAX IS 2GB!!!! >>>>>.<<<<< scary ;(
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8016)-i-mate-JasJar.aspx
I was going through the SD specifications, and it looks like that SD 1.1 could support up to 64GB (!!!) using 32KB clusters.
Unfortunately, this won't ever happen, since SD 2.0 flags anything above 2GB as a memory error.
8GB should be possible because FAT32 defaults to 4KB clusters, which would match. Larger capacity would need reformating to match the larger SD clusters, but technically it should be possible, IMHO.
So probably some of the Samsung OEMs do work at 8GB using SD 1.1. But I'm seeing the new auctions say SD 2.0 compatible only.
Oh well, I can live with 4GB, but I hope Windows Mobile adds support for SDHC and MMCplus.
Nuclear, the 4GB Sandisk I believe is SDHC, so it will probably screw things up. The 8GB Samsung you could probably reformat on your PC.
If you have an SDHC and an SD USB reader, use the SD one, as the SDHC one might force you down to 2 GB.
Hey, it's just my guess from reading the specs.
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Nuclear, the 4GB Sandisk I believe is SDHC, so it will probably screw things up. The 8GB Samsung you could probably reformat on your PC.
If you have an SDHC and an SD USB reader, use the SD one, as the SDHC one might force you down to 2 GB.
Hey, it's just my guess from reading the specs.
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My SanDisk 4GB Extreme III is a SDHC? I was sure i bought a SD only. It says SD on it....
As for my 8GB my PC detects it as only 2GB. Reformatted and again only 2GB. I know another way to fix it. Partition MagiC!!! I lost 6GB in partition space. And same with the other 4GB card. Once i partition it every 2GB it will make 3 cards in 1 . Well stay tuned and i will let you know how paritioning the space helped.
I was told by Leaf Wireless, the distributors of HTC in SA and Africa that the Hermes will support a 4gb micro card(Trans Flash).
I am not sure if this has been posted before, but there seemed to be speculation about this in the past on some threads.
Can anyone who has actually tried this confirm.
I am not sure if the new ROM's available have anything to do with this or not.
I believe 4GB requires FAT32 format. Try formatting a 1 or 2GB with FAT32 and see if it operates.
The Hermes can definately handle FAT 32 formated cards. I have flashed my Hermes using a 1GB micro SD card formated to FAT 32 several times with no problems. My 2GB card that I keep in the phone is also formated to FAT 32.
There have been differing reports concerning whether the 4GB SDHC format is supported or not. What we do know is this: SDHC in the registry doesn't stand for SD High Capacity.
speed compare - FAT16 vs. FAT32
I have 512MB Kingston, I tryed to use FAT16 and also FAT32 and benchmark speed on this card - FAT32 was faster, but only at some sizes of files. this results is for FAT32, tomorrow, when I am back to my PC I can format card to FAT16 and update this post with new images. otherwise, for me is 512MB enough. I have mp3 creative zen player, and I dont need use TyTN as video/mp3 player, only as storage for my documents, and installation files, so question if 4GB card work is for only matter of interest.
but there is one important thing. If you using card bigger than 512MB, it is better to use FAT32, coz if you dont you waste your space (it is known problem from PC disks). if someone have a bigger card, than 512MB try to format to FAT16, use pocket mechanic Slack Analysis function and you can see how much space is not used. on my card at this time is on FAT32 only 1,60MB (0,59%). on FAT16 is much more.
all results of benchmark is in archive. tomorrow I will update this post for results on FAT16, and also Slack analysis report.
.:update:.
rest of benchmark, tested FAT16, slack for current cluster size (8kB) is 1.10 % which is 3,40MB instead of 1,60MB for FAT32. This results is only for me, you can have different results, I have used only 50% of capacity.
Did we determine that someone ACTUALLY has a 4gb MicroSD card and IS using it formatted in some way (FAT16/FAT32)?
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
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If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
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How can there not be a demand? My 2GB one is stuffed full!
Zilch.
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
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The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
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So? Even your average iPod user knows you can stuff twice as many MP3s onto a 4GB card as you can with a 2GB one. Surely?
Zilch.
Been a couple of months now.
Anyone tried and succeeded or failed with a 4Gb MicroSD in the Hermes?
SOOOOOOON!
Not here yet, but right around the corner. These are SD NOT SDHC. Should work fine. I will post results when mine arrives.
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4159987
If someone can actually get the 4gb card working then i think we have some bright prospects to actually see higher capacities[8gb+] working since they all use the sdhc format. Although i still dont know why the htc peepz didnt put a rubber cover [or even a plastic one for that matter] on the sd slot. Currently there is just soo much potential for dust,grime and moisture to get in there!
I do understand the point that <b>mrvanx </b> is making. The majority of the mobile community today are more than happy with their 1gb cards...and when there is no significant demand...then there is no motif for a [reasonably priced] supply!
I emailed HTC Europe about this and I got a reply that the Hermes is able to work with SDHC Cards, but HTC Europe only advises card up to 2 gig. So....we still don't know anything.....
4Gb SDHC seems not to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308679&page=2&highlight=4gb+micro+sd
Anyone can confirm this? Or maybe someone got it working?
In my area, 4Gb micro SDHC is not even available in shops.
Anyone knows, if there will be 4Gb micro SD (without HC) available?
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ARo
Confusion
Some people here seem to be talking about SDHC and other SD cards. From what I understand MicroSDHC wont work and no one has tried a 4Gb MicroSD card yet.
If you're in the UK it looks like 4Gb MicroSD cards are now available:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/3359487/Sandisk-Micro-SD-4GB/Product.html
Anyone bought this and tried it yet?
If i could redirect you guys to THIS POST.........anyone confirm my thinking on this?
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
SkyyBoy said:
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
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Remember dude, there has been no such update or even attempt at one yet. You may be quite valuable for testing some patches if you keep hold of it.
ok guys... some info...
There are SDHC drivers for Windows Mobile 5 & 6, they are not included in your ROM's at the moment.
The Hermes USB hardware (Samsung 2440) 'DOES' theoretically support SDHC cards, but there is no way of telling if the firmware on the controller supports it.
If there is a hardware programmer out there that can help i can sacrifice a device...
I am still deliberating wether to get the HD2. One thing that worries me is the quite limited storage capacity with the microSD card. As far as I understand the microSD (SDHC) standard only supports up to 32GB capacities. I know 32GB is quite large, but I anticipate my needs will grow.
My question is - will HD2 be able to use the 64Gb, 128GB .... cards that come out probably one year from now.
Thanks for your help
Seeing 32GB cards aren't available yet, and we've been waiting for them for like 2 years, I'm pretty sure you'll have changed your HD2 before 64GB cards are here
But to the question, no idea. That would depend on whether drivers that support the new format extension are made available.
I believe 64GB is here in couple of months. Blackberry rumours are that new devices will come with support for 64GB microsd cards.
http://forums.crackberry.com/f2/32-64gb-micro-sd-cards-275113/
My friend ordered 2 usb sticks 64GB - 22USD each but I haven't seen them yet (I hope he gets them). That tells me that prices are still in freefall.
Sandisk is actually developing 128GB micorsd card: http://www.physorg.com/news143893844.html
I guess the problem is not with the sheer size of the microsd (ok that is important if you have a huge music library or movies or something else that needs to be on your phone all the time), but how fast it is while copying. If you put it in your phone and connect usb, how fast is it in disk mode? 20 MB/s?
HD2 has a microSDHD slot, which supports a maximum capacity of 32GB - or will it be able to use microSDXC cards? Is's probably more than a "firmware" upgrade from SDHC to SDXC.
I agree read and write speed are very important to - has anyone done any tests on the speed of the microSD slot?
20MB/s seems optimistic...
It's microSDHC... which means a maximum of 32GB.
microSDXC cards with more than 32GB will NOT work.
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Is's probably more than a "firmware" upgrade from SDHC to SDXC.
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Well, SD to SDHC was a firmware upgrade away for many common controllers. But I've just done a little search and it seems that it might not be the case for SDHC to SDXC indeed.
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I agree read and write speed are very important to - has anyone done any tests on the speed of the microSD slot?
20MB/s seems optimistic...
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It obviously depends a lot on the card used, some will take 3MB/s while some will take 20MB/s...
It does seem that it's a bit slower than a usual card reader, around 5MB/s with my class 6 8GB Sandisk card vs ~12 in a good card reader.
does HD2 support micro SDHC 64GB card?
Hi,
Here is a real eBay link to buy 64GB Micro SDHC card.
So we can put availability-problem aside.
Is it written in Micro SDHC specification that the limit is 32GB?
I dont see any 32GB size limit for Micro SDHC.
I would like to buy 64GB Micro SdHC
Can someone please tell me whether HD2 supports 64GB Micro SDHC?
Thanks in advance
Edit: confirmed that 64GB card works and its in use over a couple of years.
kilrah said:
Seeing 32GB cards aren't available yet, and we've been waiting for them for like 2 years, I'm pretty sure you'll have changed your HD2 before 64GB cards are here
But to the question, no idea. That would depend on whether drivers that support the new format extension are made available.
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Well if you do buy and try it, please tell us if it works
Just check in Google and don´t let Yourself be misled by wishful thinking: 32 GB mSD cards were announced by Sandisk in Feb 2009 and still we have to wait for shipping them by expansys or easydevices.co.uk until end of May 2010, maybe June..........
Do You really think an ebay-offer of 64GB is serious ? It is only that You BELIEVE in this offer since You badly want it ! It is like believing in a religion because You HOPE that someone else might tackle with Your problems and hopes. But there is NO such other, because it does not EXIST, as well as 64 GB mSD do not exist and will not exist for the next years.
Nobody will develop them, ´cause there will be no market for them ! When 64 GB + mSD cards can be built at a reasonable prize nobody would buy them ´cause everyone of the possible customers (esp. the people HERE = early adopters = tech freaks) will already have changed their devices 2-3 times to devices with mSDXC-standards (such as HTC HD3, HD4, HD5 .......... )
Don´t BELIEVE and HOPE, just KNOW and be REALISTIC: there will be no 64GB mSD-card .............
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Just check in Google and don´t let Yourself be misled by wishful thinking: 32 GB mSD cards were announced by Sandisk in Feb 2009 and still we have to wait for shipping them by expansys or easydevices.co.uk until end of May 2010, maybe June..........
Do You really think an ebay-offer of 64GB is serious ? It is only that You BELIEVE in this offer since You badly want it ! It is like believing in a religion because You HOPE that someone else might tackle with Your problems and hopes. But there is NO such other, because it does not EXIST, as well as 64 GB mSD do not exist and will not exist for the next years.
Nobody will develop them, ´cause there will be no market for them ! When 64 GB + mSD cards can be built at a reasonable prize nobody would buy them ´cause everyone of the possible customers (esp. the people HERE = early adopters = tech freaks) will already have changed their devices 2-3 times to devices with mSDXC-standards (such as HTC HD3, HD4, HD5 .......... )
Don´t BELIEVE and HOPE, just KNOW and be REALISTIC: there will be no 64GB mSD-card .............
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I just wanted to look for a bigger card than the stock 16GB, even a 32GB would do, nothing particular about 64GB, nor is looking for higher capacity card any pressing need.
I am least bothered to think so much about manufacturing trouble before looking for a higher capacity card, I dont give a damn about manufacturing trouble if any.
I just searched higher capacity card than 16GB and checked at one which happened to be 64GB.
There is no need to involve big things like hope or belief in something so unimportant or cheap as a SD card.
hello
Is there someone who really tested 64 or 128 GB SDXC, on HD2?
If i remenber well, 64gb is not possible
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Yes, 64GB microSD works on HD2...
I've learnt to never say never...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414126
SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB
I installed the Tytung ICS build on a SanDisk Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC 64GB.
Works fine! Just needs to be farmatted in Fat32
According to this
http://www.clove.co.uk/dell-venue-pro
The Dell Venu Pro has an SDHC slot capable of handling the new 32GB cards, to don't forget to order a card with your phone. Remember you have to do a hard reset when you change cards, so it's easiest to bung a huge card in before you first switch it on to save pain later!
Wheres it say that? cannot see that at all on that site..
You're not looking very hard...
Incidentally, Expansys also confirm the SDHC slot is present.
Really sorry mate, I thought what you had said had been quoted from the site!
Tempts me even more at the Venue Pro now... £440 isnt a bad deal either and looks really nice.
Saw the HD7 in the O2 store today, looked lovely but I have a Touch Pro 2 and I really think I would miss a hardware keyboard if I went for another phone other than the Venue Pro or the HTC Pro 7
A NOTE ON WP7 AND SD CARDS:
At the moment, no publicly available microSD card has the correct characteristics to be used as internal memory for WP7.
The "Class" system for SD cards measures minimum bulk transfer speeds, while this is useful for devices like cameras, it is not so good if the SD card is being used as a device's main storage.
This is not FUD or BS - the micro SD cards being shipped with the phones have a lower latency and random read\write rates than the normal ones you can purchase.
The reason they are including user-accessible slots is such that 1) the carriers can offer different capacity sizes in-store when selling the phone and 2) (hopefully) in the near future they may be cards that are publicly available with the correct characteristics that can be certified to work with WP7.
For the time being, I would recommend holding off on buying a micro SD card for your WP7.
TehPenguin said:
A NOTE ON WP7 AND SD CARDS:
At the moment, no publicly available microSD card has the correct characteristics to be used as internal memory for WP7.
The "Class" system for SD cards measures minimum bulk transfer speeds, while this is useful for devices like cameras, it is not so good if the SD card is being used as a device's main storage.
This is not FUD or BS - the micro SD cards being shipped with the phones have a lower latency and random read\write rates than the normal ones you can purchase.
The reason they are including user-accessible slots is such that 1) the carriers can offer different capacity sizes in-store when selling the phone and 2) (hopefully) in the near future they may be cards that are publicly available with the correct characteristics that can be certified to work with WP7.
For the time being, I would recommend holding off on buying a micro SD card for your WP7.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-does-support-removable-storage-proof
Sorry, I call BS!
how to do a hard reset on wp7
on iphone, when i do a hard reset, the OS is also wiped
is it the same on wp7???
i'm newbie on wp7
Adam86 said:
Really sorry mate, I thought what you had said had been quoted from the site!
Tempts me even more at the Venue Pro now... £440 isnt a bad deal either and looks really nice.
Saw the HD7 in the O2 store today, looked lovely but I have a Touch Pro 2 and I really think I would miss a hardware keyboard if I went for another phone other than the Venue Pro or the HTC Pro 7
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I know exactly what you mean - I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 store and was really really impressed by how fluid and responsive WP7 is. The handset is far better in the flesh than on video reviews and photos. Loved it!
I have the Dell Venue pro on pre-order at Clove.co.uk and Im very tempted to go with the HD7 now...
What do I do!?!?!
So, we now get told yes, there are slots, but you can't use them
So my question now is, when will we be able to buy them( I will personally pay$150 for a class 6 32GB micro SD)
Luckily I don't need a new phone yet, but I also don't want to sit on the outside for 5 months without any new hardware.
bigsro said:
I know exactly what you mean - I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 store and was really really impressed by how fluid and responsive WP7 is. The handset is far better in the flesh than on video reviews and photos. Loved it!
I have the Dell Venue pro on pre-order at Clove.co.uk and Im very tempted to go with the HD7 now...
What do I do!?!?!
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Bear in mind the HD7 doesn't have an SD card slot, nor does it have an AMOLED screen or Gorilla Glass. The Venue Pro has all that plus 1GB ROM and a hardware keyboard. And it's cheaper.
Michael_W_L said:
So, we now get told yes, there are slots, but you can't use them
So my question now is, when will we be able to buy them( I will personally pay$150 for a class 6 32GB micro SD)
Luckily I don't need a new phone yet, but I also don't want to sit on the outside for 5 months without any new hardware.
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Class 6 32GB Micro SDHC cards aren't available yet AFAIK.
Also, yes you CAN use the SD card slot on the Venue Pro. Please pay attention. You just slip the SD card in and do a hard reset. Easy-peasy.
Jim Coleman said:
Class 6 32GB Micro SDHC cards aren't available yet AFAIK.
Also, yes you CAN use the SD card slot on the Venue Pro. Please pay attention. You just slip the SD card in and do a hard reset. Easy-peasy.
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Class 6 SD cards are available, I believe Kingston claims to have a Class 10. But remember that the 'Class' system only refers to minimum bulk continuous read\write - not latency or random read\write.
And, yes, you technically CAN use the card slot. What I am saying is that it is NOT RECOMMENDED.
I know some of you won't believe me\Microsoft's own documentation, but the WP7 guys did tests with standard SD cards and they could not achieve the performance they were targeting and, in some cases, caused strange behavior, serious slow downs and even crashes.
So it is possible but, like everything else on this site, you do it at your own risk.
Surely there must be a legitimate technical/design requirement as to why expansion slots are not on the first batch of handsets?
Also if they are going to use custom cards for system/storage doesnt this kind of increase costs?
Jim - good shout on the Venue Pro advantages! I was having a weak moment - I want a WP7 handset now! lol
TehPenguin said:
Class 6 SD cards are available, I believe Kingston claims to have a Class 10. But remember that the 'Class' system only refers to minimum bulk continuous read\write - not latency or random read\write.
And, yes, you technically CAN use the card slot. What I am saying is that it is NOT RECOMMENDED.
I know some of you won't believe me\Microsoft's own documentation, but the WP7 guys did tests with standard SD cards and they could not achieve the performance they were targeting and, in some cases, caused strange behavior, serious slow downs and even crashes.
So it is possible but, like everything else on this site, you do it at your own risk.
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Thank You for explaining that!
There is no information though on when there might be cards available which a normal person could buy?
bigsro said:
Surely there must be a legitimate technical/design requirement as to why expansion slots are not on the first batch of handsets?
Also if they are going to use custom cards for system/storage doesnt this kind of increase costs?
Jim - good shout on the Venue Pro advantages! I was having a weak moment - I want a WP7 handset now! lol
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Sounds about like how they use a custom HDD for their Xbox.... :|
I can go through a few hard resets...unless there is issue with identification of device.
If not then I can use a hard reset
It seems to be less custom cards, in the fact that they can only be sourced through MS, but higher performance cards, unlike the HDDs which are just a rip-off.
Seeing as the cards memory seems to be completely added to the standard, much faster flash memory, it would bog down the system when being accessed, compared to the faster flash used in the phone memory.
If there is such a thing as a class 6 or 10 32GB Micro SDHC card, I'd very much like to see a link to it so I can make a purchase. My class 2 is in the post as it's the fastest I could find.
The notion that putting an SD card in a phone's SD card slot is "NOT RECOMMENDED" is rubbish and again I'd love to see a reference that shows this is the case.
I saw a Focus review where they put a 32GB card in the SD slot and other than having to do a hard reset, they had no problems at all.
WP7 presents the combined internal and SD card storage as one block to the applications, but I'm sure that deep in the OS it knows the difference and uses the faster internal memory when efficiency calls for it.
I just received my Sandisk 32GB Micro SDHC and although it was advertised as class 2, it is in fact class 4! Rejoice!
And I don't mean for installing a ROM onto (I use NAND builds)--just for storage purposes.
Been looking at upgrading my slow 8GB storage card to a faster and larger one (16 or 32GB), and I can't seem to find what is going to be compatible and what will not. For example, I was going to get a 16GB PNY Class 10 card, but one of the first user review comments was that someone got one for their rooted HTC HD2, and the card would not allow the phone to boot (however, it worked fine with their camera).
I'm not sure if I should go with SanDisk cards or Samsung cards, or PNY, Class 6 maximum, Class 10 maximum, or what have you. Some are on better deals than others, but clearly price is secondary to compatibility.
Is there some sort of a master list of compatible cards that I've missed in my search? Many thanks!!!
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And I don't mean for installing a ROM onto (I use NAND builds)--just for storage purposes.
Been looking at upgrading my slow 8GB storage card to a faster and larger one (16 or 32GB), and I can't seem to find what is going to be compatible and what will not. For example, I was going to get a 16GB PNY Class 10 card, but one of the first user review comments was that someone got one for their rooted HTC HD2, and the card would not allow the phone to boot (however, it worked fine with their camera).
I'm not sure if I should go with SanDisk cards or Samsung cards, or PNY, Class 6 maximum, Class 10 maximum, or what have you. Some are on better deals than others, but clearly price is secondary to compatibility.
Is there some sort of a master list of compatible cards that I've missed in my search? Many thanks!!!
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in my opinion it would be samsung then sandisk
i currently have a 32gig class 6 sandisk card and it is really good
Kameirus said:
in my opinion it would be samsung then sandisk
i currently have a 32gig class 6 sandisk card and it is really good
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Thank you. I do respect Samsung a lot, based on personal experience with desktop RAM, but my brief research into Sandisk offerings have returned questionable results: some people say that advertised speeds don't match real transfer speeds.
What about the PNY cards though--I'm still unclear what makes a card compatible or not. Is it down to individual firmware or is there just some basic limits for HTC HD2 Leo (rooted) -- like no UHS cards. In theory, those PNY Class 10 cards seem like they should be okay, but that one review makes me wonder if the user did something incorrectly, or whether there was a true incompatibility.
Been looking at Samsung cards, and they come in a few varieties: regular, "plus", and "pro". The first two are older, I guess, since they are stamped with "class 6" but differ in their speeds.
The "regular" version for up to 24MB/s:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MSAGB/AM
The "plus" version with "UHS-I Interface" for up to 48MB/s:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGB/AM
And then there's one labeled "class 10" that is the "pro" version, supporting up to 70MB/s:
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MGAGB/AM
I imagine the regular version is just fine, but would the faster two cards simply not work with HD2? PNY Class 10 cards are better priced, but again, I have no idea if they will work. Any pointers into how I can research micro SDHC card compatibility would be greatly appreciated! The manual and phone description simply state that it is SD 2.0 compatible up to 32GB, which doesn't help with my search, since some of those cards appear to not work well (hearsay).