Samsung Focus SD card? - Focus General

If you believe that it looks like we can add an additional 32 Gig SD card to the Samsung focus prior to initializing it (or at least requiring a hard reset after it is inserted), exactly what is the type of card which we may utilize? Brand and type, or even better, a link to an example would be an ideal answer. TIA.
If this thing really does need to be in the phone before it is set up, or require a hard reset, I may as well have the thing (SD card) in my hot little hand before I walk into an att store and the clerk tries to slip the battery in the phone.
Is a standard Micro SD all that is required?
http://wmpoweruser.com/expandable-storage-confirmed-in-windows-phone-7-required-a-hard-reset/

According to Microsoft it requires a special high-performance sd card so I doubt a normal one will work. If it does work you probably won't like the performance. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/sd-cards-and-my-phone.aspx

i read that they will be availalbe at att store where you purchase your phone.. may cost more than other places but without knowing what type may have to wait til phone is released..

Hmmm...I cannot find a US vendor to purchase one of these:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1119

Paolo01 said:
Hmmm...I cannot find a US vendor to purchase one of these:
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Expected release date November 8, Carrier AT&T according to Phonearena.

From what I have read, the special part of this is the way the OS creates a RAID to combine internal and external memory. I suspect that a class 6 card will work perfectly.
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With it being extra important that the Micro SDHC card doesn't fail; which brands of flash do you people recommend?
I have had a 8GB class 6 Transcend card in my LG Xenon for almost 2 years. Used it in my GPS, and my daughters DSi, and have added countless movies to it. It's been heavily used and hasn't failed. But when I go to buy 16GB the reviews aren't so high on the Transcend.
* I can't find a reference on PhoneArena to the above mentioned Samsung 30nm-class, High-density NAND Flash for Mobile Devices. Were you referring to the phone it's self being released on Nov 8th?

Has anyone any word of the type of SD card we will need to get?

On the AT&T wireless message board there's a posting of an email from Jeff Bradley, AT&T Senior VP of devices, that states it will support a class 2 or higher microSD card.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/Samsung/Samsung-Focus-usable-SD-card-specs/m-p/2532157

AHHHH....
"Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices.
When your phone is built and first set up, its internal storage and SD card are combined and recognized as one storage system," -Microsoft
I believe this is referring to the 1GB ROM internal storage(for operating system) and 8GB internalSD card flash both being the Samsung 30nm NANDHP Flash
I've read posts around the net about a Samsung rep stating the MicroSD just under the battery cover would be removable. I'm starting to see that as a possibility.

I just received an email back from Samsung Tech Support.
My Question: " SGH-i917 Focus for AT&T, need clarification on MicroSD slot
Are MicroSD flash drives used in the slot under the battery cover capable of being removed with out hard resetting the phone/operating system (Windows Phone 7)?
I'm not referring to the internal 8GB memory in the core of the phone. "
Their Answer: " Thank you for your inquiry. If you are referring to the memory card that you have on the phone, it will not affect the functionality of the phone either the operating system of the phone.
Should you desire additional assistance resolving this, we invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.
We thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Carissa Joy "
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OK, just got off phone with Samsung tech support, via the phone # above.
She told me that the MicroSD card slot under the battery cover WILL BE REMOVABLE WITHOUT HARD RESET of the phone.
That I can use multiple MicroSD cards with the phone, i.e. adding movies to multiple MicroSD flash drives for a vacation.
AS LONG AS the flash drive is only used in the SGH-i917 Focus and a Computer.
If added to another phone or device it may require reformatting before using in the Focus again.

Seed 2.0 said:
That I can use multiple MicroSD cards with the phone, i.e. adding movies to multiple MicroSD flash drives for a vacation.
AS LONG AS the flash drive is only used in the SGH-i917 Focus and a Computer.
If added to another phone or device it may require reformatting before using in the Focus again.
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That is just so contrary to anything and everything we've seen so far that it is hard to credit.
I've already ordered a class 6 16GB card (the Transcend, I hope it fares better than the reviews cited above) but I ordered it for the additional storage, not with any expectation of being able to swap it in and out or use on a computer.
As far as hoping for anything more, it would only be that a class 6 card might perform better than a class 0 or 2 which others in the HD7 forum report are being shipped in the HD7.

Well I doubt the tier one tech support agent knows more then the hands on reviewers online. Based on the comparisons, I think the Focus uses at least class 4 or 6 speed internal memory. Every video and head to head comparison Ive see thinks the Focus is faster the its comp. I did notice updated spec stating 512MB RAM, 1GB Flash Rom (Prior was 1GB ROM), 8GB Flash Storage. I think the Flash ROM is Samsung's Nano Flash chips, the 8GB storage Ive read to be ScanDisk. Does ScanDisk use Samsung flash chips?
A week from today the answers and im sure more questions will start flooding in.

I got the Focus this morning, and I tried a run-of-the-mill class 2 SanDisk 16GB card, and after doing a hard reset, its working like a charm. 22GB of memory for me. Doesn't appear to have degraded my performance, either.

Where do you lookup the available memory? I've inserted a class 4 16GB Lexar card but I don't know where to look to verify the memory.

memory card
what's being told to all att employees is that we are not to sell any memory cards with the phone because they're not supposed to work with any of the ones we carry. I've been afraid to put one in mine because of this but if its been working for ya'll idk what to believe now.

Rep at the att store told me this morning that theyre working on an OTA software update to correct this SD card issue, so hopefully it'll be sometime soon.

Has anyone tried using the 16Gb Kingston Class 6 card in the Focus? Results?

My 16GB class 6 card is working great. 22GB of storage.
Go to settings, about and it will tell you have much storage. I had to hit reset phone under that page for it to work.

I installed a 16GB class 6 card in mine this morning and it was working fine, then after reading of a problem after a soft reset I tried it and sure enough, it forgot everything I'd set up and I had to start over.

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HD2 Largest Micro SD card?

Hey guys,
Whats the largest micro sd I can place in my Leo... Currently have an 8 GB in there but am quickly filling it since having movies / music on it like no tomorrow!!
Any help would be great, thanks dudes.
You didn't find the answer anywhere on the net? In that case, they can hold a max of 128GB.
dmonuk said:
Hey guys,
Whats the largest micro sd I can place in my Leo... Currently have an 8 GB in there but am quickly filling it since having movies / music on it like no tomorrow!!
Any help would be great, thanks dudes.
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I've got a 16GB in mine and it works perfectly. I'll get a 32GB but want the price to drop before I do. They're still quite pricey.
16GB is suiting me fine. I have a seperate 8GB one for putting movies and stuff on. It just means I have to have CorePlayer installed on the device so I can switch cards and still play movies.
Edit:
Ignore the above comment by lude219. 128GB cards won't be available until next year at the earliest. 32GB is currently the largest on the market. There will be 64GB (and possibly 48GB) soon, but not yet.
Thank you johncmolyneux, I think I might wait a bit and get a 32gb just to be sure!
Thanks for your help dude.
*Any mods may now close this thread as I have had a helpful answer.*
Where can you buy 32Gb microSD cards? I wasn't aware of that they have arrived.
Tubgirl said:
Where can you buy 32Gb microSD cards? I wasn't aware of that they have arrived.
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Amazon\
Ebay
bestbuy
craiglist
expansys
sandisk
Nope.....
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Amazon\
Ebay
bestbuy
craiglist
expansys
sandisk
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Not true, Sandisk does not have a 32GB microSDHC card on the market at present. Maximum capacity is 16GB only (class 2 and class 4).
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Amazon\
Ebay
bestbuy
craiglist
expansys
sandisk
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can't find any 32gb micro sds on amazon or ebay? only normal sized SDHC cards.
Samsung expect their 32GB to be in the market by February according to their recent announcement, I expect Sandisk will want to be released for sale by then also.
Class 6 cards are available from non-Sandisk manufacturers by the way.
im guessing the will charge a ridculous amount...probs about £50 or some ****
16 Gb is the maximum today.
There is NO 32 gb on the market at this time, but expected.
Read that HD2 support 64GB microSD cards. Has anybody got a 64GB card in HD2? How much does it cost?
32GB
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msdivy said:
Read that HD2 support 64GB microSD cards. Has anybody got a 64GB card in HD2? How much does it cost?
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Microsdhc only supports sizes up to 32gb. We wont be seeing 64gb cards except with sdxc, but hd2 doesn't support sdxc.
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question...
zarathustrax said:
Microsdhc only supports sizes up to 32gb. We wont be seeing 64gb cards except with sdxc, but hd2 doesn't support sdxc.
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is that because of hardware or software? i had an old HTC Excalibur that ran winmo 5.0 back in the day. got a 8 gig card that wouldn't read in it until i flashed it to winmo 6.5. after that, it read the card no problem. funny thing is the 'fine folks' over at T-Mobile assured me that nothing over 4GB would ever work in my phone.
so i wonder, with our devices being able to run winmo, android, different variations of linux, etc... could it be just a software problem?
The HTC HD2 can only hold up to a 32 gig 2.0 Micro SD card. Click the link for proof, notice the "Expansion" in the spec list, oh yeah this is straight from HTC.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs
interesting info
so i started surfing around, looking for more info on this topic. i found a thread from another forum citing some interesting conversation regarding the same issue. to quote from page 5 of that forum...
"What the SD 4.0 specification will add is another pin to SDXC cards which will enable the higher read/write speeds. The rest of the pins will still be present and will still act exactly like they used to. So SDXC cards will always be compatible with SDHC readers, you just won't be able to read/write from them at 300mbit/s. And that's where a firmware update can't change things; no firmware update will allow the camera to use an SDXC card at its full, currently-non-existent future speed because that extra pin interface won't be present.
'But a firmware update CAN add support for exFAT, so all the other benefits of SDXC can in fact be added to our cameras through a firmware update. These benefits include higher capacities, larger maximum file size, and faster file deleting (because that's an exFAT feature, not an SDXC feature).
'It should be noted that the higher capacities have nothing to do with exFAT. FAT32 can have volumes up to 2 TB in size. The 32GB limit on SDHC cards was artificially imposed by the SD 2.0 specification, and has now been lifted with SD 3.0. However, the larger maximum file size IS a benefit of exFAT, because files used to be limited to 4 GB on FAT32."
so i gotta think this will also apply to any other device that can physically run an SDHC card.
let the debate begin
btw, quoted the line from the following forum, for reference:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/90655-new-firmware-pentax-k-7-1-03-a.html
youngdaddytc said:
so i started surfing around, looking for more info on this topic. i found a thread from another forum citing some interesting conversation regarding the same issue. to quote from page 5 of that forum...
"What the SD 4.0 specification will add is another pin to SDXC cards which will enable the higher read/write speeds. The rest of the pins will still be present and will still act exactly like they used to. So SDXC cards will always be compatible with SDHC readers, you just won't be able to read/write from them at 300mbit/s. And that's where a firmware update can't change things; no firmware update will allow the camera to use an SDXC card at its full, currently-non-existent future speed because that extra pin interface won't be present.
'But a firmware update CAN add support for exFAT, so all the other benefits of SDXC can in fact be added to our cameras through a firmware update. These benefits include higher capacities, larger maximum file size, and faster file deleting (because that's an exFAuiT feature, not an SDXC feature).
'It should be noted that the higher capacities have nothing to do with exFAT. FAT32 can have volumes up to 2 TB in size. The 32GB limit on SDHC cards was artificially imposed by the SD 2.0 specification, and has now been lifted with SD 3.0. However, the larger maximum file size IS a benefit of exFAT, because files used to be limited to 4 GB on FAT32."
so i gotta think this will also apply to any other device that can physically run an SDHC card.
let the debate begin
btw, quoted the line from the following forum, for reference:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/90655-new-firmware-pentax-k-7-1-03-a.html
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Hmmmm interesting conversation there, I read all six pages by the way. The one guy seemed to be pretty sure of himself. But from what he said if you use a SDXC card that uses extFAT in a decice that does not support extFAT. It will reformat it with Fat 32 making it a regular SDHC card without the extra advantage of the higher speeds that a SDXC reader that does support extFAT can use.
right, that's what i got out of it too. but the big bonus there is that even with the reformat, the space on that card is still accessible, be it 'just' sdhc speeds. that's ok though, cuz that's what we're used to. i'd really like some of the xda developers to take a look at this and see what they can do.
on a somewhat related note, there's a program i use on my laptop called 'macdrive' which allows me to view previously unrecognized files and partitions which windows doesn't see naturally. this allows me to tri-boot (linux, mac, and windows) and modify each of those partitions from any one of the systems.
point here, is that even if there is initially a problem reading the data on a sdxc card, it seems that problem is only with the software not hardware and therefore can be modified.
if i could program i'd start experimenting myself.
youngdaddytc said:
right, that's what i got out of it too. but the big bonus there is that even with the reformat, the space on that card is still accessible, be it 'just' sdhc speeds. that's ok though, cuz that's what we're used to. i'd really like some of the xda developers to take a look at this and see what they can do.
on a somewhat related note, there's a program i use on my laptop called 'macdrive' which allows me to view previously unrecognized files and partitions which windows doesn't see naturally. this allows me to tri-boot (linux, mac, and windows) and modify each of those partitions from any one of the systems.
point here, is that even if there is initially a problem reading the data on a sdxc card, it seems that problem is only with the software not hardware and therefore can be modified.
if i could program i'd start experimenting myself.
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This is very true, and I am in the same boot as you. I wish I had the dev knowledge and skills to start working on something for this, or a real dev could get there hands on this and see what is possible. I guess the only true way to put this to the test is for someone to get there hands on one of these beast of a SD card (64 to 128 gig what ) and stick it in the HD2 to see what it does.

SDHC expansion card slot confirmed

According to this
http://www.clove.co.uk/dell-venue-pro
The Dell Venu Pro has an SDHC slot capable of handling the new 32GB cards, to don't forget to order a card with your phone. Remember you have to do a hard reset when you change cards, so it's easiest to bung a huge card in before you first switch it on to save pain later!
Wheres it say that? cannot see that at all on that site..
You're not looking very hard...
Incidentally, Expansys also confirm the SDHC slot is present.
Really sorry mate, I thought what you had said had been quoted from the site!
Tempts me even more at the Venue Pro now... £440 isnt a bad deal either and looks really nice.
Saw the HD7 in the O2 store today, looked lovely but I have a Touch Pro 2 and I really think I would miss a hardware keyboard if I went for another phone other than the Venue Pro or the HTC Pro 7
A NOTE ON WP7 AND SD CARDS:
At the moment, no publicly available microSD card has the correct characteristics to be used as internal memory for WP7.
The "Class" system for SD cards measures minimum bulk transfer speeds, while this is useful for devices like cameras, it is not so good if the SD card is being used as a device's main storage.
This is not FUD or BS - the micro SD cards being shipped with the phones have a lower latency and random read\write rates than the normal ones you can purchase.
The reason they are including user-accessible slots is such that 1) the carriers can offer different capacity sizes in-store when selling the phone and 2) (hopefully) in the near future they may be cards that are publicly available with the correct characteristics that can be certified to work with WP7.
For the time being, I would recommend holding off on buying a micro SD card for your WP7.
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A NOTE ON WP7 AND SD CARDS:
At the moment, no publicly available microSD card has the correct characteristics to be used as internal memory for WP7.
The "Class" system for SD cards measures minimum bulk transfer speeds, while this is useful for devices like cameras, it is not so good if the SD card is being used as a device's main storage.
This is not FUD or BS - the micro SD cards being shipped with the phones have a lower latency and random read\write rates than the normal ones you can purchase.
The reason they are including user-accessible slots is such that 1) the carriers can offer different capacity sizes in-store when selling the phone and 2) (hopefully) in the near future they may be cards that are publicly available with the correct characteristics that can be certified to work with WP7.
For the time being, I would recommend holding off on buying a micro SD card for your WP7.
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-does-support-removable-storage-proof
Sorry, I call BS!
how to do a hard reset on wp7
on iphone, when i do a hard reset, the OS is also wiped
is it the same on wp7???
i'm newbie on wp7
Adam86 said:
Really sorry mate, I thought what you had said had been quoted from the site!
Tempts me even more at the Venue Pro now... £440 isnt a bad deal either and looks really nice.
Saw the HD7 in the O2 store today, looked lovely but I have a Touch Pro 2 and I really think I would miss a hardware keyboard if I went for another phone other than the Venue Pro or the HTC Pro 7
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I know exactly what you mean - I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 store and was really really impressed by how fluid and responsive WP7 is. The handset is far better in the flesh than on video reviews and photos. Loved it!
I have the Dell Venue pro on pre-order at Clove.co.uk and Im very tempted to go with the HD7 now...
What do I do!?!?!
So, we now get told yes, there are slots, but you can't use them
So my question now is, when will we be able to buy them( I will personally pay$150 for a class 6 32GB micro SD)
Luckily I don't need a new phone yet, but I also don't want to sit on the outside for 5 months without any new hardware.
bigsro said:
I know exactly what you mean - I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 store and was really really impressed by how fluid and responsive WP7 is. The handset is far better in the flesh than on video reviews and photos. Loved it!
I have the Dell Venue pro on pre-order at Clove.co.uk and Im very tempted to go with the HD7 now...
What do I do!?!?!
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Bear in mind the HD7 doesn't have an SD card slot, nor does it have an AMOLED screen or Gorilla Glass. The Venue Pro has all that plus 1GB ROM and a hardware keyboard. And it's cheaper.
Michael_W_L said:
So, we now get told yes, there are slots, but you can't use them
So my question now is, when will we be able to buy them( I will personally pay$150 for a class 6 32GB micro SD)
Luckily I don't need a new phone yet, but I also don't want to sit on the outside for 5 months without any new hardware.
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Class 6 32GB Micro SDHC cards aren't available yet AFAIK.
Also, yes you CAN use the SD card slot on the Venue Pro. Please pay attention. You just slip the SD card in and do a hard reset. Easy-peasy.
Jim Coleman said:
Class 6 32GB Micro SDHC cards aren't available yet AFAIK.
Also, yes you CAN use the SD card slot on the Venue Pro. Please pay attention. You just slip the SD card in and do a hard reset. Easy-peasy.
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Class 6 SD cards are available, I believe Kingston claims to have a Class 10. But remember that the 'Class' system only refers to minimum bulk continuous read\write - not latency or random read\write.
And, yes, you technically CAN use the card slot. What I am saying is that it is NOT RECOMMENDED.
I know some of you won't believe me\Microsoft's own documentation, but the WP7 guys did tests with standard SD cards and they could not achieve the performance they were targeting and, in some cases, caused strange behavior, serious slow downs and even crashes.
So it is possible but, like everything else on this site, you do it at your own risk.
Surely there must be a legitimate technical/design requirement as to why expansion slots are not on the first batch of handsets?
Also if they are going to use custom cards for system/storage doesnt this kind of increase costs?
Jim - good shout on the Venue Pro advantages! I was having a weak moment - I want a WP7 handset now! lol
TehPenguin said:
Class 6 SD cards are available, I believe Kingston claims to have a Class 10. But remember that the 'Class' system only refers to minimum bulk continuous read\write - not latency or random read\write.
And, yes, you technically CAN use the card slot. What I am saying is that it is NOT RECOMMENDED.
I know some of you won't believe me\Microsoft's own documentation, but the WP7 guys did tests with standard SD cards and they could not achieve the performance they were targeting and, in some cases, caused strange behavior, serious slow downs and even crashes.
So it is possible but, like everything else on this site, you do it at your own risk.
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Thank You for explaining that!
There is no information though on when there might be cards available which a normal person could buy?
bigsro said:
Surely there must be a legitimate technical/design requirement as to why expansion slots are not on the first batch of handsets?
Also if they are going to use custom cards for system/storage doesnt this kind of increase costs?
Jim - good shout on the Venue Pro advantages! I was having a weak moment - I want a WP7 handset now! lol
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Sounds about like how they use a custom HDD for their Xbox.... :|
I can go through a few hard resets...unless there is issue with identification of device.
If not then I can use a hard reset
It seems to be less custom cards, in the fact that they can only be sourced through MS, but higher performance cards, unlike the HDDs which are just a rip-off.
Seeing as the cards memory seems to be completely added to the standard, much faster flash memory, it would bog down the system when being accessed, compared to the faster flash used in the phone memory.
If there is such a thing as a class 6 or 10 32GB Micro SDHC card, I'd very much like to see a link to it so I can make a purchase. My class 2 is in the post as it's the fastest I could find.
The notion that putting an SD card in a phone's SD card slot is "NOT RECOMMENDED" is rubbish and again I'd love to see a reference that shows this is the case.
I saw a Focus review where they put a 32GB card in the SD slot and other than having to do a hard reset, they had no problems at all.
WP7 presents the combined internal and SD card storage as one block to the applications, but I'm sure that deep in the OS it knows the difference and uses the faster internal memory when efficiency calls for it.
I just received my Sandisk 32GB Micro SDHC and although it was advertised as class 2, it is in fact class 4! Rejoice!

32GB Class 4 Micro SDHC card problem

i bought a 32gb class 4 for my hd2 so i can run android off it, but when i insert the card into the phone. the phone freezez, wtf. i left it in there for half an hour and still nothing, the phone is still frozen. after i took the card out the phone unfroz and was working. i put it in my brothers HD2 and same problem, it freezez. i put the card in to a htc desire z and the phone picked it up, it looked through the files on the memory card. why the hell dont it work on my HD2. Now i bought this card from ebuyer. i hope it works man:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/218439
any ideas why it wont work and makes my fone freeze. looks like i will have to save the 32gb for a dual core nvidia tegra 2 phone.
does it freeze when you launch android or just freezes in winmo 6.5?
if it only freezes when you are launching android, backup the card then format it in winmo (you'll find under settings) and restore all files to it and give it a try
10076757 said:
i bought a 32gb class 4 for my hd2
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/218439
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I'm tempted to call BS...
That link takes you to a 16gb class6 SDHC card made by Lexar.
It also happens to be the highest capacity card they sell on that site. Trust me.. I looked.
Download h2testw, run a full test of you micro sdhc card and make sure it's functioning properly.
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2...standard-in-detecting-usb-counterfeit-drives/
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I'm tempted to call BS...
That link takes you to a 16gb class6 SDHC card made by Lexar.
It also happens to be the highest capacity card they sell on that site. Trust me.. I looked.
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dont you read anything. i said now i bought this one with the eprovided link from ebuyer
it freezez in winmo.
Just in case someone is still having issues, this is what I experienced.
I bought a Sandisk 32gb micro card, formatted (quick) with windows, put it in the HD2, and had nothing but problems (many hours of trying different things) trying to watch AVI's, or even install larger CAB's.
I read here about the SD assoc. having a free format program (SDFormatterv3.0.zip), I downloaded it, installed it on my WIN7 machine, did a quick format, not much change, did a full format (took over 3 hours!) card now works perfectly. Amazing.
I sure this is not the case with all Micro cards, but it sure helped me. Oh, I did the formatting while the card was in the phone, the card was set as "Disk Drive". (settings, other, USB)
I can vouch for the official format program fixing problem cards.
Sent from my Atari 600XL using cassette tape and a stamp.
Well an update. The program does a very good job on formatting the micro card, but it does not detect a fake card! H2testw.exe does, excellent little program. Turns out my 32gb card was 2Gb! Windows and the SD format program both reported it Ok, but If I wrote over 2Gb, files disappeared or didn't work. (doah) just couldn't believe I got ripped. Anyway, buyer beware, and check those cards before you loose important data.
32 gig card
As far as I know the hd2 does not support any higher then a 16 gig micro sd.
It supports sdhc so up to 32GB.
Sent from my Atari 600XL using cassette tape and a stamp.
Shows what you know. Almost all the HTC phones produced in the last two years have the abilty to use 32gig cards.
That's what I said... Unless you're replying to another post, in which case - quote, if it's not directly above yours.
Sent from my Atari 600XL using cassette tape and a stamp.
Well I finally locked onto a 32gb card. Got it from Buy<DOT>com, quite a few for under $50 now. Ebay... <sigh> 99% of them are fake, defective or scams.
My Tmobile HD2 runs great with a class 4 32gb card.
All I can say is avoid Ebay for your cards.
For those running on Tmobile firmware (I do still) there is a new ROM release that radically improves battery life, I am getting 100% more op time. I am not a heavy user. (5 days now, vs 2 before)

AT&T MicroSD Card w/Windows Phone Logo Spotted!

http://windowsphonedaily.blogspot.com/2011/04/at-selling-official-microsd-cards-for.html
Original story here at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/windows-phone-7-certified-microsd-cards-emerge-at-atandt-stores/
FINALLY!
Any sign of 32 GB SD cards though? That's the only type of card not supported atm.
No this is only 8gb so far. Hopefully when they make it official they'll have 16gb and 32gb versions too.
Don"t you just love AT&T's ballooned price of $32 for an 8Gb card??
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Don"t you just love AT&T's ballooned price of $32 for an 8Gb card??
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Yeah thats what I was going to say. I just picked up a 16gig for $25 at Fry's this weekend. Not for a WP7 though mind you.
If I had to justify that $32, then I'd say that Microsoft and AT&T worked with Sandisk on selecting the manufactured cards that met the minimum performance requirements; all other manufactured cards get the regular consumer packaging.
Personally, I'm running a Sandisk class 2 8GB card (vs the Sandisk class 4 8GB card) and I haven't run into any detrimental issues yet. Performance is choppy/laggy once in a while though...
Michael.
Apparently PNY will be offering a 32 gb class 4 WP7 card avaliable at Best Buy. That was speculation on the web, though there is a picture advertising it, but nothing official on the PNY site or Best Buy site...yet.
siralex241 said:
Apparently PNY will be offering a 32 gb class 4 WP7 card avaliable at Best Buy. That was speculation on the web, though there is a picture advertising it, but nothing official on the PNY site or Best Buy site...yet.
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Actually I think that one was a mix up on PNY's part. Wasn't that story from like January?
Got mine
Hey, I bought my ATT approved Windows Phone microsd card April 15, 2011 and I'm glad I did. I know it was a little high, but it works and it is reliable. It has not caused any problems. Given past memory card problems, I am not complaining. I didn't mind paying extra for consistant performance and reliabality. By the way, the packaging of this card does have the Windows Phone and round WP7 logo located on the top right hand corner of the packaging and the AT&T logo on the lower right hand corner of the packaging. As of today, 5-25-2011 still no issues and working perfectly.
I note under the AT&T site for accessories for the focus it lists a Class 2 Sandisk Micro SDHC card for 79.99
Adding link:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...TM)+-+Black&q_sku=sku4980540#fbid=mDVcGxoCjhm
under the phone image click on the compatible accessories tab. Around 1/2 way down is a section titled Memory and you can see the card there.
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I note under the AT&T site for accessories for the focus it lists a Class 2 Sandisk Micro SDHC card for 79.99
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80 bucks!?!?!?! How many gigs?
it was 16GB but when I went to a local store they had a 50% off sticker so it was $40 + tax. Sandisk Class 2 16GB, NO windows phone 7 logo just like the pic on the web site though.
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it was 16GB but when I went to a local store they had a 50% off sticker so it was $40 + tax. Sandisk Class 2 16GB, NO windows phone 7 logo just like the pic on the web site though.
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I called ATT support because I wanted to find out something about the focus. Fake tech issue you can call it
But during the conversation he said microsoft has not certified any cards as of yet. He said they sell cards that work but none yet is officially certified by microsoft. Idk if thats true but I have not seen a sd card with windows logo yet. He also was explaining how the focus was the only phone to have a sd slot.
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I called ATT support because I wanted to find out something about the focus. Fake tech issue you can call it
But during the conversation he said microsoft has not certified any cards as of yet. He said they sell cards that work but none yet is officially certified by microsoft. Idk if thats true but I have not seen a sd card with windows logo yet. He also was explaining how the focus was the only phone to have a sd slot.
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I dont know when if ever MS will put their stamp on a card, but trust me the sandisk cards work.
Yeah I am running the 16GB Class 2 sandisk from the AT&T store and have had zero problems yet and its been 5 days.
Editting to add that it is NOT labeled windows phone 7, it is just a repacked standard Sandisk Class 2 card.
So an AT&T rep told me that if you bought the AT&T WP7 approved SD card that you could pull it out, put it in any PC an read the info on it without issue just like any other SD card.
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Thats a load of crap Tiggah. The card is formatted using the Secure Digital technology. Locking it to the phone and ONLY that phone.
Can you put it in another phone and see data? No. Can you format it? Yes.
Can I put it in my computer and see data? No. (I tried this FYI and nothing)
Can I see data via the sync cable and the two reg hacks? yes.
So just wanted to update this with a few things. After more than a week with teh 16GB Class 2 Sandisk SD card my phone has worked perfectly.
Yesterday I needed to take some data home from work and used the reg hacks to see the Phone in explorer and transfer enough data to leave it about 600MB free.
When I got home I did the same reg hacks and started having trouble copying the data off. On one file the phone would just reboot.
No matter what I did it would reboot and come up and tell me my SD card was corrupt and to format it.
I would just pull the battery and reboot and it was ok again. I was never able to get that one file but was able to get the rest.
So a word of warning... if you want more memory to do what I did, don't complain if you start having problems.
Your taking an unsupported SD card and using it in an unsupported fashion via explorer. Don't cry about it later.

Swapping out the MicroSD card of HTC Surround

Ok... I'm not so sure If i was supposed to make a new thread or reply to an old one... but If you replaced your MicroSD card, then what kind did you replace the 16gb card with? I put in an older 8GB C4 card and my phone is not working as well as before. It is not responding during sync and it opens applications a bit slower. Every time, after about 5 minutes into the sync operation, it stops responding and I have to reconnect it to my computer, and I fear that it is overcharging the battery.
So just curious, what brand, model (if you have it), size, and class, are you using currently?
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Hi Kuree,
The first time I replaced my SD i used a Lexar 16GB Micro SDHC (it has a 4 in a cirlce on it as well). This one worked perfectly, syncing and there were no slow downs what so ever.
The card i have in my surround now is Also a 16GB MicroSDHC (with a 2 circled on it) this card also works perfectly. i'm not sure on the brand name as this one doesn't say it but I'm pretty sure it was a Lexar Mobile version.
I've only used 16GB cards so i can't exactly tell you if the 8GB card is the root of your issues.
Hopefully this helps you out!
If you have any more questions let me know and I'll see if i can answer them.
Take care,
Coockoo
problems....
I guys, sorry to resurrect an old thread. I'm having issues with upgrading to 32g... after hard resetting the phone and setting up time, the phone just gets stucked in "installing apps". It just seats there.
Any suggestions or things I should try??...
Any help will be highly appreciated...
thanks
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Hi,
Is "ADATA" micro SDHC 4
They told me (were I bought this) that this card should work.
Now I can't even read or format the SD card....
Thanks!!
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I didn't even know the surround had a memory card slot, where is it?
Any chance to revive the "adata" card?. I would really hate to trash 26 bucks...
To LKMR, search youtube, there is a nice tutorial on how to expand the memory of the phone.
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I didn't even know the surround had a memory card slot, where is it?
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In this video how to disassemble, locate, and swap out the microSD card in an HTC Surround Windows Phone 7 on AT&T. Please note that undertaking this project will most certainly void your handset's warranty.
http://youtu.be/6BiZzfdWDR4
I used a Sandisk Class 4 32GB. No problems at all... WELL worth the price and effort. They are also VERY cheap if you keep an eye on Deal a Day. I've bought 4 from there so far, the last was like $20.
-Mc

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