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Upgrade to Epic 4g from evo 4g?

So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something

Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...

trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.

I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L

I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.

The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy

sleepy8594 said:
That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!

trueplaya89 said:
I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..

Nexus S experience (2 weeks in)

I LOVE my Nexus S! Sure its not perfect....I would have gone for a Desire HD if I wanted the "best". I got the Nexus because I wanted to play...and play I have
Never flashed a rom till this phone. Now I am getting obsessed, clockwork makes it so easy! Tried most of them and I am currently on Cyanogen nightlies. I so look forward to seeing these rom's mature (they are so good after only a few weeks already) and I expect we will have our Nexi (plural of Nexus??) outperforming more modern devices.
So yes, I am very happy and massive respect to the clever people who "cook" roms and kernals for the likes of me, and xda for making it accessible

amazing it is just waiting for cyanogen 7 final version

Amritttt said:
amazing it is just waiting for cyanogen 7 final version
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the nightly is just as stable as a daily driver.. you should try it
nandroid backup before if you change your mind

willcpfc said:
... and I expect we will have our Nexi (plural of Nexus??) outperforming more modern devices.
So yes, I am very happy and massive respect to the clever people who "cook" roms and kernals for the likes of me, and xda for making it accessible
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you can already out perform anything right now if you go for Bionix + Trinity ROM

zephiK said:
the nightly is just as stable as a daily driver.. you should try it
nandroid backup before if you change your mind
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Its the most stable I have used......its nice

AllGamer said:
you can already out perform anything right now if you go for Bionix + Trinity ROM
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I was using that set-up....and it is awesome, powerful and a bit more edgy than cyanogen, however wifi/browser issues forced me to change for now. But I am obsessed now so changing back will be a pleasure when I can rely on wifi
But bionix is a perfect example of how our nexi will be beasts.....

willcpfc said:
I was using that set-up....and it is awesome, powerful and a bit more edgy than cyanogen, however wifi/browser issues forced me to change for now. But I am obsessed now so changing back will be a pleasure when I can rely on wifi
But bionix is a perfect example of how our nexi will be beasts.....
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if 1400 is too much for your phone you can try 1300
or even lower 1200
1300 is stable for me, all features working
1400 is a bit too hot for comfort

AllGamer said:
if 1400 is too much for your phone you can try 1300
or even lower 1200
1300 is stable for me, all features working
1400 is a bit too hot for comfort
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I tried every combo I could.....each gave me the browser trouble
Complete wipes and fresh flashes.....but no joy.
But it is awesome! The kernal boots in seconds. I am sure they will make a stable version for my delicate device.
If my nexus was a car, Cyanogen is leather seats, neon lights and a spoiler....Bionix/trinity is putting a supercharged V10 under the hood

willcpfc said:
I LOVE my Nexus S! Sure its not perfect....I would have gone for a Desire HD if I wanted the "best". I got the Nexus because I wanted to play...and play I have
Never flashed a rom till this phone. Now I am getting obsessed, clockwork makes it so easy! Tried most of them and I am currently on Cyanogen nightlies. I so look forward to seeing these rom's mature (they are so good after only a few weeks already) and I expect we will have our Nexi (plural of Nexus??) outperforming more modern devices.
So yes, I am very happy and massive respect to the clever people who "cook" roms and kernals for the likes of me, and xda for making it accessible
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How refreshing to see a positive review from an NS owner. I also love my NS.

irishrally said:
How refreshing to see a positive review from an NS owner. I also love my NS.
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yeah the Nexus S has taken a lot of flack, sure it is not perfect and not the best ever phone feature wise.....but like you, I love it....It looks damn cool, stylish and it will always be more exotic than HTC etc.

How exactly would the 'best' be the desire hd

Anderdroid said:
How exactly would the 'best' be the desire hd
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Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.

willcpfc said:
Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.
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Trust me, I've owned an EVO 4G...there's nothing fire-breathing about it, at least not on Sprint's network here in Los Angeles. LOL

distortedloop said:
Trust me, I've owned an EVO 4G...there's nothing fire-breathing about it, at least not on Sprint's network here in Los Angeles. LOL
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Yeah but you got far more of a choice state side. I was so tempted by desire HD...that's what my head said....but my heart said nexus. Its like Droid x never made it here and nexus one is rare as hell...only one phone company stocked it

willcpfc said:
Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.
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It's a nice bit of kit as you'd expect from HTC, but for me, the screen is just that little bit too big. Plus we get AMOLED on the lovely Nexus.
And NFC. Not that it's any use at the moment, but better to have the hardware and wait for Google to find something awesome to do with it than to get 6 months down the line and miss it...
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willcpfc said:
Here in Britain its about as good as you will get spec wise no firebreathing evo's in our shops.
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the Nexus S has a better CPU/GPU and better screen.
The Evo... Is even worse than the DHD

willcpfc said:
Yeah but you got far more of a choice state side. I was so tempted by desire HD...that's what my head said....but my heart said nexus. Its like Droid x never made it here and nexus one is rare as hell...only one phone company stocked it
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U don't want droid x crap...the rest yes cool phones. ..might own my first moto in 2 months. The atrix
I think the dhd is a nice device. I hate the entire sync ****. That phone spent the whole day syncing ...lol
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willcpfc said:
I LOVE my Nexus S! Sure its not perfect....I would have gone for a Desire HD if I wanted the "best".
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I handed my desire hd to the wife and got a nexus s. The nexus s is far better than the hd. You made the right choice.
-Joel

I love my Gf, daughter.... nexus S... ect
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I really love this phone and have had it since launch but I'm on number five. I just really have bad luck with these kinds of things or perhaps I'm just really ocd. I thought this last one would be perfect finally but I'm having really bad touch screen issues. The phone randomly goes unresponsive. The back button and pretty much the whole lower half of the phone or left side it you are not in landscape. Its starting and stopping even as I type. I love this phone when it works! I cringe every time I go to best buy because I feel like I'm some kind of hypochondriac but the problems are real! My first had a bad screen flaw and since then its been unresponsive back button like this one (minus the screen unresponsiveness), dim back button, dead pixel, and now this one. I have the black tie protection too. I'm not giving up on the phone but man its so frustrating. Just work without defect dang it!
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Just got my Nexus S ATT. My thoughts.

Coming from HTC Inspire btw.
Size-Build is awesome imo, perfect screen size, nice and lightweight and does not feel cheap imo.
Yea its superamoled but wtf at the yellowish tint....why did they do this?? My Captivate looked better and this is one of the main selling points for me, is there anything we can do to get it back to the other color temperature? Seriously....
Tried the camera a bit, not impressive at all, neither was the inspire so eh whatever.
Everything is FAST! I love it!
Stock Android!!! Woooh! No Blocking of Apps! Woooh!
Wifi seems a bit slow, it started doing a restore off the bat and downloading all my apps from the inspire and even the background! wow! Really cool feature that I had no Idea about, but some apps installed and then I kept getting a bunch of errors saying "insufficient memory" I guess I gotta do them one by one...
Thats pretty much it, Im satisfied but the screen tint is kinda leaving a bad taste in my mouth, the SuperLCD seemed more sharp and brighter then this and the whites were WHITE and the blacks werent too shabby either, dunno wtf is going on as the Screen on my old captivate was great and I loved it, this is eh...

Really hoping I didnt make the wrong choice here, the Xperia arc I had my eyes on and the only thing it didnt have was a FFC and I can live without it, beyond that I like the looks, bigger screen, lighter weight, on the arc better and sony unlocked the bootloader on their new devices so updates will come regardless, way better camera, I just dont know about this whole screen thing....

i just got mine today, so thought i'd chime in too.
build quality: not cheap imo, the ergonomics dept should pat themselves on the back. feels just right
doesn't feel laggy
sensors problem. compass seems a bit off, and the best gps lock i've had is 10m error after about 60s. i stood outside and waited, no lock. resorted to downloading gps status and downloaded the additional gps data. this seems to be the only way it's locked on. compared to a desire, this is hella slow and crappy for gps.
camera quality, i think for a phone it's good enough. for the ffc, so it's vga, but at what resolution does skype mobile use? what's that? it's not working? oh well. i think vga is fine for video calls. anything else is just additional cost.
about to test with music and haven't put a sim in yet to test the phone.
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.

MarkusPO said:
i just got mine today, so thought i'd chime in too.
build quality: not cheap imo, the ergonomics dept should pat themselves on the back. feels just right
doesn't feel laggy
sensors problem. compass seems a bit off, and the best gps lock i've had is 10m error after about 60s. i stood outside and waited, no lock. resorted to downloading gps status and downloaded the additional gps data. this seems to be the only way it's locked on. compared to a desire, this is hella slow and crappy for gps.
camera quality, i think for a phone it's good enough. for the ffc, so it's vga, but at what resolution does skype mobile use? what's that? it's not working? oh well. i think vga is fine for video calls. anything else is just additional cost.
about to test with music and haven't put a sim in yet to test the phone.
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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if you're going to test sound, i highly recommend using netarchy's kernel (unsure if it works on a I9020A).. but basically put Voodoo Sound, it'll be highly worth it without question

thanks, but i'm going to keep this stock.

You can change the bad color by using voodoo control app on the market and finding a kernel that supports it.
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MarkusPO said:
thanks, but i'm going to keep this stock.
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if you're keeping it stock... why did you say
i bought it for development, so i'm now going to start messing about with it, but the phone feels nice and zippy, but disappointed with the sensors (will be testing outside tomorrow) as i'm looking to do a lot of augmented reality dev.
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aren't you simply contradicting yourself?

j0hnZ said:
You can change the bad color by using voodoo control app on the market and finding a kernel that supports it.
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Not sure what you mean by "kernal that supports it" Can anyone help me out with this? Whole reason I got a NS is so that I didnt have to mod/root etc lol
But I dunno if I can live with this yellow tint, I NEED to change it!

zephiK said:
if you're keeping it stock... why did you say
aren't you simply contradicting yourself?
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You can do plenty of app development on a stock rom. Not all development is rom/kernel based
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krohnjw said:
You can do plenty of app development on a stock rom. Not all development is rom/kernel based
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Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!

MarkusPO said:
Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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well, you didn't specify. and yes, development on XDA is defaulted towards ROM development and not apps.

bah. it doesn't matter, let's play nice.
want a game of horseshoe? HORSESHOE!

MarkusPO said:
bah. it doesn't matter, let's play nice.
want a game of horseshoe? HORSESHOE!
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What about a yellow tint? You have it? Its seriously bugging me out...

crap, sorry about the thanks there
no, i don't have a tint at all - i have a 9020. and no tint. i manually upgraded to 2.3.2 - too scared to update to 2.3.3 yet. i don't have a sim in it, so the ota wasn't registering.
in terms of sound quality, it blows away my ipod touch 1st gen, but then again most of my older cheaper mp3 players do so that in itself isn't saying much! the dynamic range sounds a lot better on this than what was on the desire too.
but still haven't taken the stickers on the phone off yet. need a case!

MarkusPO said:
Yep, thank you. "Development" only means ROM development here. in the big-wide-world it means apps!
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Lol lmo in your world maybe.
In the one that I live in and the rest of the world DEVELOPMENT means rom development or something else or different to improve the phone or make it looks nicer maybe a theme
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MarkusPO said:
crap, sorry about the thanks there
no, i don't have a tint at all - i have a 9020. and no tint. i manually upgraded to 2.3.2 - too scared to update to 2.3.3 yet. i don't have a sim in it, so the ota wasn't registering.
in terms of sound quality, it blows away my ipod touch 1st gen, but then again most of my older cheaper mp3 players do so that in itself isn't saying much! the dynamic range sounds a lot better on this than what was on the desire too.
but still haven't taken the stickers on the phone off yet. need a case!
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You'd be even more amazed at sound with voodoo.
Seriously, you're missing out. But if u don't want to mod it then that's fine.
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doniqcc said:
Lol lmo in your world maybe.
In the one that I live in and the rest of the world DEVELOPMENT means rom development or something else or different to improve the phone or make it looks nicer maybe a theme
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putting glow-in-the-dark stickers on it will make it look nice... ohh i see... i didn't know that's development! thanks!
development means programming. fullstop. period. back to the scheduled show!

MarkusPO said:
putting glow-in-the-dark stickers on it will make it look nice... ohh i see... i didn't know that's development! thanks!
development means programming. fullstop. period. back to the scheduled show!
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Not in xda development but you can do it in android market place but you'll learn eventually it's ok. I can't wait to see what app you'll work on. wait I know something about teaching other people how to develop a rom without rooting your phone nice yeeeeah
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voodoo sound and color changed my life.
Try the settings in the apps and themes section of this forum.

aaronpaws said:
voodoo sound and color changed my life.
Try the settings in the apps and themes section of this forum.
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I wish I could do it without a root, I just cant seem to do the damn root, Im stuck on the drivers part....

projectbutter makes the s3 amazing

I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!

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I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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The official version is indeed better than the leaks we got earlier, and gives me hope that the later versions are going to be even better, not to mention 4.1.2 and 4.2.

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I have both. I think that the SGS3 was already faster on ICS than the gnexus on JB. The gnexus is slower to load apps and lag a lot on places like the widgets menu.

I can only recommend Paranoid Android on the S3, I'm simply amazed by this ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745003

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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That's your opinion. I've tried both, and the S3 is faster, and better imo.

Certainly on AOSP it is without a doubt, ill always choose AOSP first and foremost now there can be no going back to Sammy ROM's only as a secondary ROM, i can live without FM Radio (i always use Tune in Radio PRO anyway much better highly recommended app) and other small things you don't get IN AOSP the good far outweighs the bad.

I have to agree Project Butter is a lot better than in the leaks, but there is optimization to do, like the widgets draw, which still lags until it is fully pulled into memory.
I can't wait to see what the updates have to offer.

And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!

Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.

supernexus build 5 is a winner

russeini said:
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
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while on ics i used ex dialer, on JB it still loads slowish but it takes 1 sec rather than 4 for me and im fine with that so i stopped using ex dialer for now.

I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I completely agree i owned various devices and always used Asop or akop. But on this phone, if you use asop or akop you miss the features on the phone. So i tend to stick to stock all the time simply because i need most of the features.

hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I always switch between Sammy and AOSP for this reason but now with dual-boot I have the best of both world.
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oliseo said:
Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
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No need to go to Samsung, you are on XDA. All the experts are here. I'm not an expert but I would say to just flash another ROM or Modem.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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He he he silly dual-core
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Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I don't agree I think it's on par at the least...
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Wow! Google should have never brought project butter up in the first place. Now we have some weirdos having a weird placebo effect thinking that the GS3 firmware does not incorporate PB when it would be absolutely retarded and more difficult for Samsung to take it out of the source code and add in half butter. That is like the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. No developer would rewrite PB to operate at half.
There is a possibility that touchwiz animations do not look as smooth as AOSP animations to some eyes but I highly HIGHLY doubt it that they would change the genetic code. lol
People need to stop tripping or otherwise Google is not going to even bring up any transition improvements to prevent this crap from happening to their OEMs that use Android skins.

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And your post seems like one from a fanboy who tries to hide the reality.
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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scoffyburito said:
I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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Will I still get all the goodies like 60 fps and other stuff on nova launcher instead of touchwiz?

Rubbish phone

I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster

So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.

welshandy2322 said:
I've had this phone for just over 2 weeks and it's utter garbage. Everything runs so slow, there is always a delay when opening messages and other apps. I've had 2 random reboots. I'm coming from a HTC one that is what 2 years old and that baby was sweet as a nut butter smooth. Are there any new updates coming out to make this phone run faster
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Try the J firmware.

If you can you should return it, if you can't, root and reduce the DPI 560 seems sweet. Also use a different launcher and keyboard. That will remove most of the lag, but not all.

The phone is not rubbish, LGs software and "configuration" on the other hand is a bit over aggressive:
- thermal throttling kicks in too early in my opinion (play a game for a few minutes and frames start dropping like crazy due to the processor being capped). the phone isn't that hot either - considering my N5 reaches temperatures where it feels a lot warmer than this and seems to not cap the speed that aggressively;
- there is a lot of useless software from LG running (updates, smart stay, quiet hours, bla bla bla) which eats up memory, processor usage, etc.
- be careful if you have an sd card in it (I had an old card in it and everything was twice as sluggish);
- avoid power management / battery monitoring tools (using GSAM battery monitor in my experience seemed to keep the phone awake more then it should resulting in earlier thermal throttling).
Ways to improve performance:
- keep the software that you need active (give up unnecessary widgets, services, syncs). keep only to the ones you need;
- try the phone without a sd card;
- try to keep it as cool as possible so it runs cool and doesn't throttle performance;
- (advanced) root ... and get rid of useless junk ...
- (advanced / risky) disable throttling and other safety features ...

I've changed keyboard

I'm loving it. Phone of the year. The m8's got a crappy camera and too much bezel, the s5... Well, it's the s5. Sony, yeah Sony, great contestant. Doesn't have the style, the flare tho. No nanny Fine finesse.
Different strokes for different folks, eh.
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The phone is indeed rubbish:
- crappy laggy LG software. No match to Google's Android.
- bleak washed out colors of LG IPS screen
- over sharpening
- crappy over sensitive Knock wake up

There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Well surely there was no need to open yet another thread again, but his opinion is also an opinion. That might help ppl to decide thier purchase. And i do agree with him, g3 is a crappy device

Not rubbish @ all
Robin2 said:
So get rid of it. Everyone else seem to be pretty positive, including me.
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Seriously...
I've had the M8, Nexus 5, Note 2, Galaxy S4...
I only miss the Nexus 5 a bit, for the ROMS of course. This G3 is awesome, Rooted + xposed, patiently waiting for the Devs to crack open the bootloader, or bypass.
Rubbish? Na, Great phone, could be better?, yes, not perfect, but not rubbish @ all.

Misterowl said:
There's a solution to your issue and that's get rid of your phone. XDA developers has partnered up with http://swappa.com/ where you can sell and buy phones. No-one appreciates your counter productive thread and no-one wants to hear you complain.
Have a nice day and I hope there isn't more of dumb stuff like this.
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Nothing dumb about it. The phones software is poor FACT

You guys should yell at a camera for 10 minutes just like what Adam Outler did. You'd really get your point across about how "horribly" bad of a phone this is.
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Send it to me. I'll put it to good use.

Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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Helloworld294 said:
Its not rubbish phone, its rubbish user. I experience no lag at all even with dalvik even tho my eyes are really sensitive to fps since I play PC games, so maybe you should just get an iPhone and stay a noob. Goodluck
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"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.

I like it and i came from a note 3 iv rooted and disabled any apps i never use and i have no problems i like the screen decent battery nearly 13 hours on battery and nearly 2 hours screen time with 70% left i found messages was laggy so im using hangouts and it seems ok
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lossah said:
"No lag at all" that's just not possible with stock rom sadly. no matter what you say.
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Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Helloworld294 said:
Forgot to add "for a stock ROM" jeeesus
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Well its not me who said "lag free".

lossah said:
Well its not me who said "lag free".
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Everything lags lol every software no matter how many cores you have will lag, it all depends on the code. So when I say " lag free" I mean no unnecessary lag
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