HTC Shooter new sprint adroid phone? dualcore?!?! - Epic 4G General

Saw this now on engadet...could it be the phonethat keeps me awway from sammy?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/htc-shooter-appears-for-sprint-with-android-2-3-2-qhd-screen-an/

God I hope.

Adreno 220, MEH.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=HTC+Shooter&benchmark=glpro20
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So its not even half as fast as the PowerVr SGX543MP2. Pass.
Edit:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Motorola+ATRIX+4G+MB860&benchmark=glpro20
SLIGHTLY faster than Tegra 2.

I really have to see how this phone turns out. I think I'll wait awhile before I make the jump. I want to see how smooth it is, the battery life, and also which devs get this phone, because if all the Evo devs & Epic devs move to this phone then I know what I'm getting. But also I'm thinking about the Nexus S too, decisions, decisions
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I might make the jump. It looks niiiiiiiice. We shall see.
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muyoso said:
Adreno 220, MEH.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=HTC+Shooter&benchmark=glpro20
So its not even half as fast as the PowerVr SGX543MP2. Pass.
Edit:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Motorola+ATRIX+4G+MB860&benchmark=glpro20
SLIGHTLY faster than Tegra 2.
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what exactly are u showing...n9othing in therehas anything to do with the adreno 220

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what exactly are u showing...n9othing in therehas anything to do with the adreno 220
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The first link is the phone in question. And it gives a score.
This is my previous post in story form:
The HTC Shooter has an Adreno 220. This is a link to a GLbenchmarks of the HTC Shooter. Look at the score, 22.7fps. Now check out the iPad2 running a larger resolution and scoring DOUBLE the HTC Shooter. Meh. I will wait for a phone running the GPU the iPad2 uses or better. Edit: Here is a Tegra 2 phone with the same resolution as the HTC Shooter for comparison.

muyoso said:
The first link is the phone in question. And it gives a score.
This is my previous post in story form:
The HTC Shooter has an Adreno 220. This is a link to a GLbenchmarks of the HTC Shooter. Look at the score, 22.7fps. Now check out the iPad2 running a larger resolution and scoring DOUBLE the HTC Shooter. Meh. I will wait for a phone running the GPU the iPad2 uses or better. Edit: Here is a Tegra 2 phone with the same resolution as the HTC Shooter for comparison.
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The gpu alone isnt everything. Look at the optimus 3d, it scored higher than tegra devices and this device with the our gpu. Any why are you comparing the ipad 2, we are talking smartphones here. Currently no smartphone houses this gpu, only tablets and psp. This gpu might never even make it into a phone. the comparison is pointless.

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Galaxy S vs Droid X

The left picture was captured from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ6i1RAJwD4
and the right one was captured from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilx_cpGZczM
Both were captured at the last frame of Quadrant 3D test.
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SGS is definitely better than droid X in 3D test.
I observed this test carefully, and saw that Galaxy S seriously fell behind droidx in I/O Database write test, which might related to slow internal SD speed. That's why the sgs got lower score in quadrant test.
Hmm so I wonder what would have happened if he applied the stalling fix, what score would have been achieved on the SGS. This comforts me in buying the SGS.
I will take very good 3d performance over a small difference in processor speed any day.
Not trying to sound like a newb but what exactly do you benefit from by having good 3D performance?
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Not trying to sound like a newb but what exactly do you benefit from by having good 3D performance?
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The games, man, smooooth running.
On my SGS with r2 rom i'm having average 850 points at Quadrant.
And how the hell moto x is getting 1131?! LOOOL
There have been some talking about the SGX not having 2D graphics acceleration, but in 2D tests (at min 2:11 in the first video, and 1:39 in the second one), we can see that Galaxy S has a clear lead. 8FPS across all the test VS 5 to 6 FPS in the DROID X.
In Linpack with measures CPU performance, Galaxy S has a score of 8.458 MFLOPS VS 8.19 in the DROID X (in line with Samsung claim that the Hummingbird if about 5 to 10% faster than a stock Cortex A8)..
The slow NAND performance seems to be the only explanation to the poor results in Quadrant when compared to DROID X. It isn't certainly the SoC that is slowing down the Galaxy S.
BTW: The Samsung Galaxy S seems to be capped at 56FPS in 3D.. Neo Core, Quadrant, Etc.. etc.. Every 3D bench seem to stop at 56 FPS. This makes sense since more FPS wold only hit more the battery, not improve game experience.. But if this is true, this cap is hidding an even greater difference in 3D performance because the benchmarks are measuring an soft cap, and not the GPU limit.
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Not trying to sound like a newb but what exactly do you benefit from by having good 3D performance?
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Don't you want a phone that can play games as well as an iPhone but not be locked to Steve Job's rule?
When I look at the speed of a phone, I often look at how fast the GPU is. My touch diamond didn't have a driver installed to handle the GPU and made for a crappy slow experience even on the UI.

Quadrant, NeoCore and Linpack Scores

I ran these apps to see what this device was capable of and I'm impressed. I know scores isn't everything but the device has a very good built quality. It runs very quick and smooth. I was not expecting this when I bought it for my younger brother. It doesn't feel like you are using a Mid-Range phone as it's categorized as.
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I have been saying this since before it was released. This phone has the same TI OMAP 3630 as the droid 2 and droid x just clocked at 800MHz instead of 1GHz. I think it's even the same screen as the droid 2.
I think it is the same screen. This phone is definitely going to be underestimated. If Motorola ever updates it to 2.2 it will be a contender against all current high end phones. Can some devs look into overclocking or making a recovery file for this phone.
I scored a 17.25 and 1443 on quadrant. Running Bravo at 1200/300 63sel ondemand. The phone will lockup if you run it at 1200 performance with no min and stock sel. FYI
photobuddha said:
I scored a 17.25 and 1443 on quadrant. Running Bravo at 1200/300 63sel ondemand. The phone will lockup if you run it at 1200 performance with no min and stock sel. FYI
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Are you running 2.1 or 2.2? I've gotten 1609 with 1.5GHz on 2.2
2.2 What did you use to get the core to 1.5?
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2.2 What did you use to get the core to 1.5?
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Woops...I have a feeling I made a typo... I think it was either 1.05GHz or 1.1GHz. But I don't really remember. I highly doubt it was 1.5GHz tho.
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Woops...I have a feeling I made a typo... I think it was either 1.05GHz or 1.1GHz. But I don't really remember. I highly doubt it was 1.5GHz tho.
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I have run at 1.05GHz stable so it was probably close to that area.
Managed to squeeze out 16.657 on Linpack @1200 MHz
I take that back, I got 19.679 MFLOPS with the newest version of Linpack.
1.2ghz @ 62 vsel.
HTC Wildfire
my HTC Wildfire with Cyanogenmod 9 - 2822 points in Linpack
Our phone is better than galaxy nexus lol
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Linpack scores on stock xoom after 3.0.1

My score in linpack are now around 35 sin e I updated....that's a drop of 10 to 15 points from before the update. Anyone else notice a drop in linpack?
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Do you have flash installed?
Also, what app do you use to check the linpack? [edit] nevermind. I found it.
33.614.
3.0.1 with flash installed.
36.14 when I uninstalled flash.
I know it's the same range, but it's strange how everything seems faster without flash installed. I've uninstalled and reinstalled it twice today to see if it made a difference, and I think I'm going to leave it uninstalled until next week.
Speaking of Linpack, how does the iPad2 score this:
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Is that just an Android vs iOS thing?
First thing I did was unistall flash and then reboot....no good. Then I unintalled most of my apps, reboot, retest, same results. Using linpack app from market.
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Does your Linpack score somehow have something to do with how your Xoom performs, real world?
muyoso said:
Speaking of Linpack, how does the iPad2 score this:
Is that just an Android vs iOS thing?
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The iPad2 is murdering the xoom in most benchmarks, perhaps it is the better device after all...
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The iPad2 is murdering the xoom in most benchmarks, perhaps it is the better device after all...
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True, but that cannot be the only thing at work here. I mean the iPad2 is scoring 5x better than the Xoom in linpack. I highly doubt that the hardware is 5x better than the Xoom, especially when the iPad2's CPU is only clocked at 900mhz.
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Speaking of Linpack, how does the iPad2 score this:
Is that just an Android vs iOS thing?
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Wth... just, wth.
That's got to be photoshop. Who ran the test, using what, and how many times?
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That's got to be photoshop. Who ran the test, using what, and how many times?
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Anandtech. I would trust their numbers over any other site I can think of. They are legit. You can go check out the numbers in their preview of the iPad2.
Link to preview of iPad2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4215/apple-ipad-2-benchmarked-dualcore-cortex-a9-powervr-sgx-543mp2
link to relevant section:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4215/apple-ipad-2-benchmarked-dualcore-cortex-a9-powervr-sgx-543mp2/2

[OPINION]Galaxy S3; A Huge Disappointment

As the case with everyone else, i was super excited for the s3. After all the rumours and leaks surrounding it are to be cleared. When i first saw it, my first reaction was,"is that that the galaxy nexus fused with s ii.''
The So-Called Galaxy S III is a huge disappointment for me. Samsung teased us by saying that something big is coming, well it's certainly big - 4.8'' inch big.
Let's take a look at what i found so disappointing in S III
1. Display: 4.8" 16M-color HD (720 x 1280 pixels) Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen,
REASON - Dude Sammy, you could just use the old screen size, increasing the resolution. The 4.8'' is too big and i bet that ladies will certainly avoid it.
2. CPU: Quad-core 32nm ARM Cortex A9 1.4 GHz processor, Exynos 4212 Quad chipset
REASON - They used four cores, when they can use two. I mean instead of four Cortex A9, they can simply use tow Cortex A15 cores.
3. TouchWIZ - The pure ICS UI is so sexy, but you ruined by your crapwiz.
4. Design - It looks like a Galaxy Nexus fused with the S II.
I think that the S 3 is a huge disappointment comparing the kind of hype they built with it.
SOME LIVE SHOTS OF GALAXY S III - Coutesy- GSMarena.com
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Galaxy S II Next To S III
Front Look
Back
did you miss this gigantic on going thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633756
Design and cheap plastics feel let it down unfortunately for me... :-(
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God awful design choice. Plastics for one + a shiny back that attracts fingerprints? Blue instead of black? Ugh
Samsung had the opportunity to really push the envelope... and instead they sat back and unveiled a disappointing "flagship"
the design is the only let down, do not say other thing as disappointments. screen and processor are the right choice. how on earth will any mobile company launch a phone with stock ics UI?
All general descusion is to be direct to this thread here
This is to help keep information organised.
Thank you.

Oppo Find 5 Benchmarks

Stock Kernel and Rom it looks, like the S4Pro is not far behind the 600? Just a little GPU enhancement - overclock and it would easily match the 22350 by the HTC One and not far behind Galaxy S4 either.
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Nice score mate
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my untutu score
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1st post on XDA and highest bench thus far.. well played sir
That inst mine I just saw it while I was looking at buying the phone awhile ago, I saw them as high as 22500 I think on AndroiAuthority or on a similar website. I get my Find 5 today and whatever, I'm going to push it to the limits every once in awhile, gaming benching etc. I want to do the same as I have my DNA. Mu CPU up to 1892 at 4 cores and 100 or 125 overclock GPU. I'm getting HTC One and close to the S4 Octa scores with it overclocked. These s4Pro's will go and they overclock well. On the CPU side I really don't see any reason to get much higher, I think most quad core phones now will run pretty much all the Apps that are out, But I would like to get the GPU up to where the Snapdragon 600 is running, I think the S4Pro is at 300 MHz and the 600 is clocked at 400MHz. So it shouldn't be to hard, they did it on the DNA pretty quick. Cant wait until DHL gets here, watch it will be like 6 0r 7pm. Oh well. I will just get all my Apps ready.
So do you guys have any tips before I start playing around with my OF5?
Please! No dead pixels or hardware faults
I'm getting just under 21k (20997) on stock ROM. I've seen Oppo Find 5's with 27k, so with the right tweaks this thing is a beast and just under the S4.
I got 22k with firefly and i think this is just awesome
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19633 with pac rom
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Never got over 20050 in Antutu, no matter what ROM I tried, midnight 32GB version.
My max antutu on stock (non-clean phone): 20702
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try cm10
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Never got over 20050 in Antutu, no matter what ROM I tried, midnight 32GB version.
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Try a cm10 or based cm10 rom.

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