Database Users

How confusing is it round here?

Sorry, this is not really a serious dig but I feel I should make you all aware (tounge in cheek) how bloody confusing everything is around here.
I spent the last 12 hours searching for all the info required to update an athena that'll be arriving on my door step some time today but I'm still no closer than I was after my first 30 mins searching.
I've found 2 different unlockers but can't find anything about which is required or best. Just loads of posts from people bricking their devices.
I've chosen which ROM I want to go for but it does not include the radio.
I've just found the thread containing radio 1.50 but this wasn't sticky'd or anywhere near the top of the search results.
What order do I do everything in? The ROM thread says radio first but is this before or after unlocking?
I'm sure I'll suss all this out no problem once my device is in hand but why can't everything be done in one hit (unlock, radio & ROM) like every other rom I've used. And a nice set of instructions as you go.
I appreaciate some radio's work better for some and not others but the ROM "recommends" 1.50 so why not include it? Ditto for the unlock.
Please don't take this the wrong way I'm just worried how other people may find it round here. I'm not a novice. I've had just about every HTC device going over the last 6 years, all have been unlocked, flashed with different radios and roms and with each one you'll find all you need to know in one place (usually in a read me.txt of each rom or stickied at the top of the forum) but I don't ever remember being so confused as I am now and if I'm confused then god knows what a newbe would make of it all.

This is the Unlocker you want to use first:
Just backup your data, take some time, fully charge your device, take out the SD Card an follow the instructions:
(Turn off all energy save settings on your computer)
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Athena/Unlocker/AthenaUnlocker.zip
This is the newest version of the Black Touch Rom:
http://athenaproject.logontek.com/AP3.0Final/AP Dual 3.0.rar
An here are the Addons (optional):
http://athenaproject.logontek.com/AP3.0Final/AP Dual 3.0 ADDONS.rar
Finally update your Radio:
http://rapidshare.com/files/52469650/Radio_version_1.50.00.00.zip

worth mentioning that the radio upgrade hard resets your device so install your addons and stuff after you've done it.
In a nutshell though what he said.
Just check if your device is x7501 or x7500 as there were two unlockers previously.
If I remember correctly this is all explained in first post of unlocker thread. (its a while since I checked)

I agree that things are widely scattered here, but after keeping up on daily posts in the Athena sub-forums for a while it all becomes clear. As mud on some days... (grin).

Thanks mojo, I had those exact files unzipped and ready to go.
Like I said guys, it's not me I'm worried about I wasn't asking for help as such... its those newb's.
Anyway, don't take it the wrong way was just a bit of constructive critisisum.
P.S. Dam postie didn't show after all that
Thanks guys.

This post was the exact thing I was looking for. I'm going to flash my Advantage right now!!!!!!

OK I did it! Was a little touch and go there for a few minutes, but I got it. Damn I was scared for a few minutes, thought I f'ed up a expensive PPC.

Congratulations cib911.
I've literally just got it off the post man, opened the box and started modding
All good so far, unlocked, 1.50 radio and AP Dual ROM.
Just gotta get used to this amazing screen... humm now which dpi is best???

I keep mine on 96 all the time.

I suggest such help should be definitely moved to wiki.

verysmartncool said:
I suggest such help should be definitely moved to wiki.
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As the whole point of a wiki is that anyone can edit and add to it, feel free to go ahead and do just that.

done:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_UpgradeProblems

Actually, I also couldn't find the stuff that I need in the wiki. Don't get me wrong guys, I came from the Atom group. Wiki and everything is considerably better. I wish there's something we can do to make it better. Frankly, we are only a few among all PPC users so technically, it should be easier to put some order into things. Thanks!

radio version 1.50 download link to rapidshare is not working
radio version 1.50 download link to rapidshare is not working
some help please?
http://rapidshare.com/files/52469650/Radio_version_1.50.00.00.zip <-- not found
this is from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_UpgradeProblems

I'm going to enjoy my newly acquired device as it is for sometime before I upgrade to PK ROM. Otherwise, I have no basis for comparison. Untill now, I've only got wktask and realVGA installed.
Anyway, is there any speed difference between the different version of PK ROM?
I'd need some time to digest all the posts in this forum before making this big decision. Don't want to brick my darling.

Looking at the post earlier posted, I just downloaded and was about to push began, and now I have to figure out do I have the right unlocker for my device. I have the Unlocked x7501 Advantage!
I downloaded the unlocker from the earlier post....am I good?
I was just about to begin!
Let me add to this....I want to keep my same radio from the HTC original ROM....Do I need to do steps 2 and 3 in the unlocking process or can I skip that?
Thanks Dannyboy! I needed this thread!
And thank you mojo2000, that was good order and clarity! I cant wait to flash!

concerning my post about the missing file in rapidshare, it's now up and working.

Newbie puzzled!

Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!

Mescaline said:
Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!
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All of your questions had been answered a number of times already in this forum so there's only one thing you can do, Search and you will find the answers.

Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Don't mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's a bot on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.

Try this for starters: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
You probably know this already

Hard-spl flash:
Download hard-spl
Plug the usb cable to your pda.
Run RomUpdateUtiliy on PC.
PDA will display tricolour.
You will be asked REPLUG you usb cable. DO IT!
After a few second Hard-spl will be upgraded!
Rom flash:
Download the rom
Step manually to bootloader (press and hold camera button and press reset)
You will get a tricolor screen.
Plug the usb cable to your pda
Start RomUpdateUtiliy.exe (or Rom.exe) on you Pc.
Pda screen will be grey, you will see the process indicator.
When it is 100%, update is finished.
Radio-rom flash
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the radio-rom.
Back to offical rom + radio:
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the offical rom!
Back to original spl:
At this time no working method as I know...

katbollie said:
Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's an Angel on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.
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That's right dude. Keep searching!!!!!!!!!

Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )

katbollie said:
Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )
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See! Now you know you'll find a more comprehensive explanation if you'll just search, init? You've learned the lesson and you've earned your respect. CONGRATS DUDE!

Thanks
Newbie thanks for opening this thread,
it give a very good overview what to really do for flashing the Rom without having to read through XX Pages.
Unfortunately I have still have not found a right link on how to backup my orginal O² German ROM.
What do I need for this just in case I do need to send in the Polaris?
Is the software specifc for the Polaris?
Look forward for a quick note.
Cheers
Rar9

Be careful with what you try from the Kaiser forum in terms of tweaks though, I've read people had problems using them on the Polaris. see the Polaris tips and tricks thread for details

nahguam said:
Your posts in this thread are a good way to get a name for yourself as obnoxious.
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Thanks dude. You're welcome!

I was reading now in the whole forum for about two whole afternoons, and I have to say that I still have the same questions as the threadstarter.
These questions answered once and for all, this thread would be worth pinning in my opinion, because complete newbies don't know where to find the necessary information in this really huge forum.
For the case someone wants to come up again with "use search", I will try to make clear, what problems of newbies (including me) are:
For example: I now already found three different lists of HTC-cab-files in the forum, one here in the polaris-section, one in the general section, a half one in the wiki... often without version-info, and so don't really know whats the actual one...
so far so confusing, I tried to search for the answers onto the exact same questions as the threadstarter posted. in the wiki, there is simply nothing on WM6, no tools, no real how-to, nothing a newbie can use.
Only thing I could understand from wiki, is that cooking an own ROM, needs to have a unix(-like) OS, and even there, I'm not sure if it is still actual for WM6.
Reading a bit around, I then was glad to at least find out that the devices are locked for non-certified ROMs, and that one needs to do that HardSPL.
Well that's as far as I could get until now, and I really don't know much more than before. Pretty unsatisfactory...
So could anyone make (or point to) a little overview of what one needs to know about dumping, flashing WM6-ROMs, and before flashing, what one needs to "cook" an own ROM.
Perhaps I was imagining this way to easy, but I thought about nLite/vLite-style applications for customizing ROMs?! Probably you'll all laugh at me, but I would very much appreciate taking me serious, because I want to learn how to do it. Simply don't want to lose time searching the forum for information, that don't help me advance...
thanks a lot
Eric
EDIT:
well I found this, which I can only recommend to all newbies: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
with this, questions of flashing are all answered,
but what tools one needs for dumping, flashing, editing ROMs and all of the remaining questions mentioned above remain open

Original WM 6.1 for Blackstone and rolling back to it.

Hi everyone
I am new to this forum so bear with me.
I have a Blackstone NL version with 1.56 firmware from stock. Just got it 2 weeks ago. I would like to test miri's new WM6.5 v15 on it. My question would be:
If i do that, (and dont like it) can i go back to what i have now?
If so, can I make a complete backup of my blackstone, and i dont mean a sync of the contacts but a real OS image of some sort.
Is it possible to find original HTC OS images of different languages.( i have dutch on mine and would like to have one in English. If yes, Where?
For my questions, please be specific and clear coz i am a Noob.
Thanks in advance
TheOne741

See "BlackStone ROM developements" ROOM
D'rath

Thanks... that was very clear...

Read the Wiki mate, theres a full list of all HTC Official Roms in there.

You don't seem to be answering the question...
jake_tenfloors said:
Read the Wiki mate, theres a full list of all HTC Official Roms in there.
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As I read it, he's asking two questions, one is where to find the ROM - which you answer - and the other (which I'd like answered too) is what problems might there be in rolling back to the stock ROM; my reading of the Wiki simply doesn't answer that part unless I'm missing something (or searching for the wrong thing?). So a pointer to a previous article (which might help us) would be useful, if someone knows where one is....

The ROOM is the Bibble of changing ROM: in this forum you'll find all if you search...
But you want the fish not learn fishing...
1) Wiki for ROM
2) No problem to return back...
D'rath

why didnt you just say that in the first place then, my god, geeks

but roll back imply that the org rom is still inside the device
and thats not the case to go back you just have to flash your
device with the same version it came with like you would flash
it with any other rom

[Q] I need some basic help over here! :( - Admin could you move this?

I tagged this thread as "Q", cos ive been sniffing through XDA-forums and I have got a lot of questions. I hope someone can help me.
First of all, Im new to Android, in the Developing side, and also the Flashing side. I would like to learn more about it, but flashing now is my priority.
So related to flash:
I have got a Samsung Galaxy 3, and I cant understand the ROM naming pattern. For example:
slumpolo said:
LATEST FIRMWARE:
I5800XXJPD for I5800 EUROPE (February 2011) - CLICK HERE - Android 2.2 FROYO (pass = samfirmware.com)
LATEST FIRMWARE:
I5800XXJPM for I5800 EUROPE (February 2011) - CLICK HERE - Android 2.2 FROYO (pass = samfirmware.com)
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What do this mean, most important, how do I may know if its compatible, whith my phone, im from Spain, so I guess I need a Spanished-language ROM.
What about Custom ROMS?
I saw this one: [ROM] Kyrillos' ROM v4.1 Ultimate Edition, a very cool ROM, but I dont even know if the OS will be on Spanish.
I read something about Country codes or something like that, but I couldn't find the "sintax".
Another important question about flashing, how can I avoid a brick? Maybe some kind of Bootloader with nand copy? Maybe I'm ****ed if I fail? :/
Another one:
Do I also need a extra firmware?, maybe a combination of both?, I'm used to flash PSPs and so, I remember that I should had the official firmware...
Final notes:
As u guys can se nowadays I'm a total noob when flashing and so, thats why I would appreciate a lot any sort of help.
Maybe my question were answered before, but I couldn't find em, even with the search bar, if so, please show me some link about it
I hope I'd opened this thread at the correct sub-forum...
I love the forum desing, its seems a serious forum, well organized and clean, I hope could stay in here for a long time
Thx a lot for reading.
P.D: Sorry for my poor English and so, I'll accept any corrections ^^'
-> Okay I placed it wrong.... -_-" the idea was to place it here: Android Software and Hacking General, or maybe here: Galaxy 3 General admin!!! help T_T
I don't wanna repost, please Admin move it T_T
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Edit:
I've flashed succesfully my Galaxy 3, into Froyo, thx to slumpolo,and some other memebers of this forum ^^
From now on I'll be on forum, for developent matters, thx 4 all ^^

Newbie Vegacomb install question

Hi all,
yes, I dont like people who join forums just to ask one question either, but I promise, as much as I am sure this question 'must' be covered somewhere, I have searched for ages on forums and youtube install videos to gain clarification.
So.. if you are feeling charitable, all I want to know is:
For a new vegacomb install on a machine ( a viewsonic 10s to be precise) with the stock rom (2.2), my understanding is that I would
1. install the modded stock rom (v2), and then (and here is where it confuses me)
2. I think install the file "VegaComb_HC3.2_Build9n.zip"
Thbis is important, as the specific confusion is regarding 'eactly' which file to use from all the available ones.
I also believe that one could use "VegaComb HC3.2 9b Installer.exe " on its own, but with no video tutorials of this and, from my reading, several people having problems, I am assuming my steps 1 and 2 listed above would be the reccomendd route.
I would re-emphasise though if I may, that I would like to be 100% sure what actual file I should be using.
Thanks all for your kindness.
PS. I also have read that not all 10s's can be updated to vegacomb, but I only read this once. Though not a core part of my question I was wondering if anyone else had this information?

CairnsFella said:
Hi all,
yes, I dont like people who join forums just to ask one question either, but I promise, as much as I am sure this question 'must' be covered somewhere, I have searched for ages on forums and youtube install videos to gain clarification.
So.. if you are feeling charitable, all I want to know is:
For a new vegacomb install on a machine ( a viewsonic 10s to be precise) with the stock rom (2.2), my understanding is that I would
1. install the modded stock rom (v2), and then (and here is where it confuses me)
2. I think install the file "VegaComb_HC3.2_Build9n.zip"
Thbis is important, as the specific confusion is regarding 'eactly' which file to use from all the available ones.
I also believe that one could use "VegaComb HC3.2 9b Installer.exe " on its own, but with no video tutorials of this and, from my reading, several people having problems, I am assuming my steps 1 and 2 listed above would be the reccomendd route.
I would re-emphasise though if I may, that I would like to be 100% sure what actual file I should be using.
Thanks all for your kindness.
PS. I also have read that not all 10s's can be updated to vegacomb, but I only read this once. Though not a core part of my question I was wondering if anyone else had this information?
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You have it correct!! But First, BACKUP!! original rom, just in case you have issues
1. Install modded stock rom
2. Install Vegacomb HC3.2_Build9n.zip
3. Install HC3.2_Build9n Update3.zip (install immediately after installing Build9n.zip no need to reboot)
If your new to rooting, make sure you read up on wiping data and cache, making backups etc.. before trying anything.
Then your good to go!!
I say back up your original because I have a viewpad 10s, and it would not work with any of the newer roms (Vegacomb 3.2, HoneyIce etc..) because of touchscreen issues. I found Corvus5 rom is the only one that behaves with my Viewpad, and only after I ran his calibration tool in the app drawer.
Good Luck Rooting!!

CairnsFella said:
PS. I also have read that not all 10s's can be updated to vegacomb, but I only read this once. Though not a core part of my question I was wondering if anyone else had this information?
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All ViewSonic ViewPad 10S (Tegra2 based) can be upgraded to VegaComb ROM!
But not ViewSonic ViewPad 10 (no "S" here). Because that is a completely different tablet that is based on Intel Atom and can run in dual-boot (Android+Win7).
And to understand the difference between 9n and 9b read the first post of VegaComb ROM thread again.
9n - "N" as in Normal system partition (UK/US residents, people with system corruption issues,..).
9b - "B" as in Big system partition (lots of languages, newer gapps,...).
Read it again and all will be clear.

Thank you
Appreciatte your kind responses.
Hadnt heard of the Corvus rom.. but then being new to this and not having received my 10s yet, I guess that isnt too suprising. Ill have a look at it.
Will certainly back up as suggested given the various levels of success reported (although I imagine more people comment when things dont work, than when they do).
I will reread re: 9n and 9b as I hadnt realised the difference you highlight. I hope I can work out what is most suitable for my Australian sources tablet.
Thanks again.

CairnsFella said:
Appreciatte your kind responses.
Hadnt heard of the Corvus rom.. but then being new to this and not having received my 10s yet, I guess that isnt too suprising. Ill have a look at it.
Will certainly back up as suggested given the various levels of success reported (although I imagine more people comment when things dont work, than when they do).
I will reread re: 9n and 9b as I hadnt realised the difference you highlight. I hope I can work out what is most suitable for my Australian sources tablet.
Thanks again.
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No Problem!!
Just take your time, read the tutorials, and know you can always recover it back to stock, if things get screwed up. Probably the hardest part, is finding a male to male usb cable to plug computer to tab to get started.
And while there is not a lot of postings in the Vega forums, there are some great people, Yani2000, Vujke025, Beegee1962, and others that are very knowledgeable, and kind, answering everyone's questions, and fixing problems.
Best thing you can do is hit the "Thanks Button" next to there post if they helped you.
Now go turn your tab into the monster even your ipad friends will envy!!

I updated with the following post in AndroidTablets.net, the post ROM Viewcomb Honeycomb 3.2.
it's very very easy

Ah, cool, you're the dev that makes the Honey Ice ROM, right?
Try posting in the welcome thread and get attention of the willverduzco moderator.
Good luck!

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