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Got a Herald/Tmo Wing... one quick question.

Where the hell do I start?
... Told you it was quick!
OK, seriously though... I do have some experience hacking/flashing/flexing phones, but all that traces back to my Motorola days. This is nowhere near the same thing, not by a long shot. So I was just wondering if anybody could give me some tips, perhaps point me in the right direction because I have no idea where to even begin.
Thanks a lot and I really appreciate any and all help provided.
*EDIT* I forgot to mention... I know I'm responsible for all my own actions. If I screw up, then I screwed up.

Well - start when a RUU comes out + HTC4350 WM6 updates.
Before it's quite difficult to brake into the bootloader etc.
But some program suggestions:
- mtty
- IMGFS (some tools in it)
good luck

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into them. I was wondering if there was a readme/FAQ/Wiki that went into explaination on the terminology and whatnot regarding these monsters. I have no idea what an RUU is and I'd much rather read about it than bother people here with my newbieness.
I don't even know how to modify registry settings

In general, search for words like "ROM cooking; RUU; IPL; SPL; Bootloader; NBH file system; Extended ROM; Custom ROM" in all the forums to get an overview.
Keep in mind that the Herald has a newer ROM file system, so don't "copy" instructions 1-to-1.
Wizard, Hermes and Prophet subforums are very busy forums with lot's of infos on this topic, but again they all use an older ROM system.
And as xsign already mentionend better don't start ROM hacking on your device yet, because neither HTC nor any provider released an official WM6 ROM.
So there is no backing up solution yet in case something went wrong.
Hacking the Bootloader is right now impossible and therefore working custom ROMs are very very rare over here.
Cheers

Origignal German Tmobile rom needed or way to backup it.

Hey guys you really need to help me on this.
I wanted to update my athena to wm6. Unfortunatly i didnt run the unlocker before and now i can´t even do a hard resest.
But i can go in booloader mode. People adviced me run the unlocker but the athena isent recogniced by the unlocker. So i cant do this either. Except you can say to me what went wrong?
So i think the only thing to rescue my ameo is to get the original tmobile german rom so that i dont get the wrong vender id error.
If somebody of you can supply me with that it would be awesome. If not is there a way to make an installer or backup of the german rom. Because i have a friend who has a working ameo. But he is no geek. So the complex cant be to complex.
Plz help me my ameo is not running for days and i want to use it again.

You're going in the right direction by starting a new thread here. However, people with the skills may not be reading this forum. May I suggest that you post this question also on a forum more likely to be read by people who knows how to do this as well?
I was thinking maybe here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=259 since your question is relevant to all phones, not just Ameo.
Also, all the ROM cooks must know. May be PM them will give you better chance of getting help?
There is this very clever guy by the name of dark simpson who started this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311909
I also suggest that you read this thread to get a feel of his area of expertise. I read only a few posts in the thread so far not think he definitely knows a tool that you can use to extract your ROM. Read this thread to see if your question is already answered. Else may be you could PM him to give you pointers on how to solve your problem.
Good luck, and I hope you get it working soon.

thank you that helps i will check the thread.

See the next post

This article is more directly relevant for your problem.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Daily...p-rebuilding-and-restoring-your-SPV-M700-ROM/
He outlined 9 steps there. The first step could be ignored as it deals with installing Olipro's unlocker.
Step 2 to 8 deals with backing up the ROM. Some steps pertains to optimizing the size of the bin file and is not really needed, but I guess there is no harm still. All the tools you need are there too. Step 9 is to flash the WM5 rom created by step 2 to 8.
After that, you could install Olipro's unlocker then flash to PK 3.0.
The author of this thread, Paul, looks like a nice and helpful guy. I suggest that you read his articleon how to back up ROM carefully. It's on a different device,but I think the principle is the same. Once you have understood the step, get him to help you to adapt the procedure for Ameo.
Hope that helps you.
Edit: more links and potential helpers/authors
http://www.modaco.com/content/HTC-H...rebuilding-and-restoring-your-HTC-HERMES-ROM/

thank you that looks quit complicated, i dont know if i can convice the friend to install a lot of apps on his device, he is more like a bussines partner but perhaps i find somebody on the net, who will do it for me and i can supply them with the guide.
What do you think in which forum im most likly to find somebody with the original german tmobile rom?

If you read the link carefully, you'll see that there is no need to install anything on your friend's unit. It will only do a read. Not write involved. Anyway, the most likely forum where people have that ROM is here.
Anyone still on Tmobile WM5 (german) able to help?

hey i carefully read the thread and even i don´t understand it fully. Its not that easy to do. I don´t think he can do it. This is procedure for experts. Anybody must have the original rom here.

ok thanks for your help. I found the solution in a german forum. For everybody needing the german rom go to http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?p=964813#post964813
and click on the link.

very confused....

hey,
in advance, sorry about that if this is a serious noob question. i searched and i read numerous threads but i'm still really confused.
basically, i'm getting a wizard at christmas, which has WM5 on it. I've had little look around, and the general (and somewhat obvious) concensus is that WM6 (or WWE or whatever) is way better. I'm really confused about the whole G3 G4 thing and the whole updating ROM things. I've read guides/tutorials and looked at a load of the Wiki stuff, but i'm still really confused.
Is it possible that someone might give me a bit of a really broken down idea (not step-by-step tutorial) as to updating the phone from WM5 to WM6. Like what is involved? length of time taken? what essentially i need to do? etc. If people can tell me what to update etc, like the radio thing and such, i'm more than happy to search for the guides and tutorials on this forum. the guides are excellently done and very easy to follow, but i'm still lost about what means what?
thanks,
t

Damned Noobs!
Ok, the for idiots version (don't worry, I once needed the for idiots version too)--
G3 Wizard= when you boot the phone and get a bunch of numbers on the initial screen it will say x.xx
G4 Wizard= x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (joking, but it will have more decimals!)
The radio depends on location...I'm in Cali, I run 2.47 with the fix cab and have no issues...however...2.19 IS the recommended radio for the WM6 roms.
THERE IS NO SINGLE BEST ROM!! They all rock. The kitchen you choose is based on what fits YOU. I run Jaguar, I love it. But I like minimal apps, but not a vanilla rom. Read each kitchen posting carefully. Some come with all kinds of bells and whistles, some are minimal, some are really vanilla! Read what the bugs are, and if fixes have been posted.
Read Dr.P's tutorial at least 3 times on unlocking your Wiz (it is stickied).
You will want a few "must have" apps. Search lokiwiz, wst, and maybe even omap clock. Once CID/SIM unlocked, always unlocked. But before you flash a cooked rom, YOU MUST BE CID/SIM UNLOCKED!
When you flash a rom, you are not freeballing with your jacket open...flashing your rom simply means switching it out. It is recommended to flash back to a stock rom before trying out a new kitchen. This keeps the new install fresh and clean. Search for the stock rom. The search button is your friend. A lot of folks use the Tmo 2.26 stock rom.
And finally, invest in Sprite backup or a similar app. It makes things so much easier if you fubar ****. So always back your Wizard up.
And again, remember, read the wiki's and stickies until your eyes bleed. It is always best to know your device before playing around with it. What mods you do, you do at your own risk!
And an FYI, I don't honestly know if WM6 is better than WM5, but as the WM6's are all custom kitchens, they are a hell of a lot more fun!!
PS- the longest time taken is always in the initial modding. You MUST unlock your phone first...that will take a good 20 minutes at least. A typical rom flash takes roughly 10 minutes. A radio only flash takes 3 minutes...once you have done the initial work...you will find that if you want to change roms, you'll need to devote a whole 20 minutes---flash a stock rom, then flash a custom creation.

Newbie puzzled!

Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!

Mescaline said:
Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!
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All of your questions had been answered a number of times already in this forum so there's only one thing you can do, Search and you will find the answers.

Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Don't mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's a bot on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.

Try this for starters: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
You probably know this already

Hard-spl flash:
Download hard-spl
Plug the usb cable to your pda.
Run RomUpdateUtiliy on PC.
PDA will display tricolour.
You will be asked REPLUG you usb cable. DO IT!
After a few second Hard-spl will be upgraded!
Rom flash:
Download the rom
Step manually to bootloader (press and hold camera button and press reset)
You will get a tricolor screen.
Plug the usb cable to your pda
Start RomUpdateUtiliy.exe (or Rom.exe) on you Pc.
Pda screen will be grey, you will see the process indicator.
When it is 100%, update is finished.
Radio-rom flash
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the radio-rom.
Back to offical rom + radio:
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the offical rom!
Back to original spl:
At this time no working method as I know...

katbollie said:
Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's an Angel on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.
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That's right dude. Keep searching!!!!!!!!!

Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )

katbollie said:
Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )
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See! Now you know you'll find a more comprehensive explanation if you'll just search, init? You've learned the lesson and you've earned your respect. CONGRATS DUDE!

Thanks
Newbie thanks for opening this thread,
it give a very good overview what to really do for flashing the Rom without having to read through XX Pages.
Unfortunately I have still have not found a right link on how to backup my orginal O² German ROM.
What do I need for this just in case I do need to send in the Polaris?
Is the software specifc for the Polaris?
Look forward for a quick note.
Cheers
Rar9

Be careful with what you try from the Kaiser forum in terms of tweaks though, I've read people had problems using them on the Polaris. see the Polaris tips and tricks thread for details

nahguam said:
Your posts in this thread are a good way to get a name for yourself as obnoxious.
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Thanks dude. You're welcome!

I was reading now in the whole forum for about two whole afternoons, and I have to say that I still have the same questions as the threadstarter.
These questions answered once and for all, this thread would be worth pinning in my opinion, because complete newbies don't know where to find the necessary information in this really huge forum.
For the case someone wants to come up again with "use search", I will try to make clear, what problems of newbies (including me) are:
For example: I now already found three different lists of HTC-cab-files in the forum, one here in the polaris-section, one in the general section, a half one in the wiki... often without version-info, and so don't really know whats the actual one...
so far so confusing, I tried to search for the answers onto the exact same questions as the threadstarter posted. in the wiki, there is simply nothing on WM6, no tools, no real how-to, nothing a newbie can use.
Only thing I could understand from wiki, is that cooking an own ROM, needs to have a unix(-like) OS, and even there, I'm not sure if it is still actual for WM6.
Reading a bit around, I then was glad to at least find out that the devices are locked for non-certified ROMs, and that one needs to do that HardSPL.
Well that's as far as I could get until now, and I really don't know much more than before. Pretty unsatisfactory...
So could anyone make (or point to) a little overview of what one needs to know about dumping, flashing WM6-ROMs, and before flashing, what one needs to "cook" an own ROM.
Perhaps I was imagining this way to easy, but I thought about nLite/vLite-style applications for customizing ROMs?! Probably you'll all laugh at me, but I would very much appreciate taking me serious, because I want to learn how to do it. Simply don't want to lose time searching the forum for information, that don't help me advance...
thanks a lot
Eric
EDIT:
well I found this, which I can only recommend to all newbies: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
with this, questions of flashing are all answered,
but what tools one needs for dumping, flashing, editing ROMs and all of the remaining questions mentioned above remain open

[Q] [Newbie] Need full guide from start to install WP7

I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )

MrPhilo said:
I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
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Dude, your asking for trouble on this one, see when you started this thread did you notice the the list of similar threads that comes up?
Its been asked time and time again and some folk on here can get very very vocal when people keep asking the same questions without looking at the quite obvious theads and stickies detailing what you need to do
Another question, have you searched at all? ok i see the search function is still down so will let you off that one, but there are various stickies at the top of the Q&A section for WP7 that will help
Im not going to detail everything you need to do, but i will give you a basic list, you can find everything you need either on the stickies on the various HD2 forums, or in the Wiki, remember most of what you need to do before you even think of installing WP7 is on the standard HD2 forums.
Anyhow, here goes, (note whilst you cant search on xda developers you can (and i always use this because its much better) seach via google, use strings like "XDA DEV LEO install HSPL")
first things first you need to unlock the device, so you will need to find and follow the directions for installing HSPL
you will then need to install the correct Radio, if you have the TMOUS 1024MB HD2 you must be very careful as flashing incorrect Radio will give you a brick, most HD2s are not this version unless you live in the states. search the HD2 WP7 stickies to find out which radio
then you will need to install the MAGLDR 1.13, use google if the XDA search is nackard, search for strings like "XDA DEV LEO MAGLDR install how to"
once thats taken care off your ready for WP7, boot to MAGLDR and get it ready for a USB flash and away you go.
Im not doing this to be rude, because i could have just as easily wrote down eveything you need to do, im doing this to help you, if you read the threads you will "learn" whats going on, you will see some of the issues other people have had and you will see how they fixed them, me telling you what to do wont teach you anything and you will be back on here starting new threads about something equally well documented.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923997
note, its very unlikely you will brick your device, unless you have a 1024MB version and flash the wrong radio, more often that not, when people report bricked devices they simply have to go to boot loader mode and flash a new ROM, a stock ROM would put you right back to a factory default, radio and all. so dont panic about that, there is also the SD card flash if you cant do it via USB for any reason, but in all my years ive never had to do that.
oh an use a class 2 or 4 SD card, might not work but its a better chance than others.

Hey sorry about that, I tried searching as mention by you which didn't work. I thought the stickies threads was just rules, didn't know it includes links.
Also where can I find these radios on xda instead of some other website?
Also what's the difference between 512MB and 1024MB? Well of course it's double memory.
My phone is from UK, so i guess it's a European model?
I know I could search for these information but I thought this might show up on google search for other newbies. Thank you for helping me

1024=Tmous=USA
512=Rest of the world so you have a 512 (rom , not ram)
You can find all radios in the wm6.5 dev section (HD2 is a wm6.5 phone after all ^^ )

two words mate,
read up.

MrPhilo said:
Hey sorry about that, I tried searching as mention by you which didn't work. I thought the stickies threads was just rules, didn't know it includes links.
Also where can I find these radios on xda instead of some other website?
Also what's the difference between 512MB and 1024MB? Well of course it's double memory.
My phone is from UK, so i guess it's a European model?
I know I could search for these information but I thought this might show up on google search for other newbies. Thank you for helping me
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good luck!
Look, if you have questions then ask but make them specific, like the two you just gave and the radios arent on a very obvious location as ^ has mentioned, if its a UK phone you have nothing to worry about, WP7 cant use the extra 512MB of ROM anyway
remember though, google is your friend!
try search for "XDA DEV LEO radios" on google without quotes
the one you want will be the first thread or if not it will be within the top 5 XDA DEV results
same for HSPL and MAGLDR
if you get stuck youve had a look about an cant find what you are looking for then drop a question, an just say, look ive tried this this and this but im buggered if i can work it out, can you guys help
and perhaps once your done you could give complete step by step guide including all links and downloads, because your right, its not all in one place but it is all there.

One thing you MUST NOT DO is use a USA Raido to update your 512 HD2 cause you will brick your phone and it's gone till you find someone who can jtag your
phone and fix it which will cause you alot of money. Make sure you read up before
trying anything.

WP7 is quite tempting, I agree.
Though, I must admit, I'd be a little wary about installing it, as it seems like it's still quite new.
If you want to give it a shot though, I recommend picking a build out of those listed here, and reading through all the instructions and comments before deciding to install it.
Also, before you try anything, be ABSOLUTELY SURE your stuff is backed up. I can't say how many times I've lost things on my phone because I've accidentally updated a ROM without say, backing up my contacts.
I now use Google Sync to keep all my Windows Mobile and Android contacts backed up, so this doesn't happen.
I'd recommend setting up a google account, and following these instructions to backup your contacts with your google account prior to trying anything.
Anywho, bestest of luck!

CrAzYiaN said:
One thing you MUST NOT DO is use a USA Raido to update your 512 HD2 cause you will brick your phone and it's gone till you find someone who can jtag your
phone and fix it which will cause you alot of money. Make sure you read up before
trying anything.
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europe can flash 2.xx.50.xx and 2.xx.51.xx on 512mb UK version
ok, since this is the only thing that can give you a really bad day
download this radio here
http://www.multiupload.com/QP0IWGY42F
you will find everything you need about radios on this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
The directions are on that link above but basically you will also need to get two other things
Custom RUU, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4798017&postcount=1
that is the flashing program its self, when you download a radio it wont have an installer, it will be just a single file, you will need it to flash any WM6.5 ROM or radio but usually the ROMs will have one included.
HSPL, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5279234#post5279234
this is the really important bit, this "unlocks" the device and gives you a layer of protection should you screw it up, which is most unlikely anyway download the attached file in post number 4, its the most recent and covers pretty much anything
righty once you have all that on your PC in a nice easy to find location its time to start modding it!
HSPL first, download the program and follow the instructions on the HSPL thread, which is more or less, run the program with your phone connected and charged up, IF it cant do it then it will tell you. For WP7 you MUST install HSPL2.08 when prompted.
once done, you will not notice any difference.
now follow the directions for installing the radio you downloaded use the CustomRUU, firstly extract the file then rename the extracted file to "RUU_Signed.nbh" and flash with the CustomRUU by just placing them both in the same folder (no other files in there) and running the customRUU
THAT is the hard part done, next is MAGLDR, let us know how you get on with that

MrPhilo said:
I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
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Mr Philo have you got your activation code for WP7? Just dont waste your time flashing WP7 until you get a code from Microsoft.
And yes the search engine on here is not very good, but as the others said use Google.
Also when I started using XDA, i spent loads of time reading through most of the threads. And yes I read a lot before I even started to think about flashing.
But we were all Noobs, and we will help you out when you get stuck?
Also go to this thread for all info :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478

Hey guys thanks for all the information! I just downloaded all the files that are needed and named them step by step in a folder.
First I can't check what SPL version I have. I did hold down the lower volume button down, but it only brings me to the 'vibrate, silent etc adjustment' (Yes i was holding it for 20 seconds). And it says do a reset, while holding down?? How can I do that. Sorry I know im failing already !
EDIT: Flower thankyou for the thread, but I was using it as well ! But its just the SPL bit im confused at :\
Oh yeah, I have already got a code yesterday from the UK Microsoft, was very easy

Start in bootloader mode. Shut down the phone / push and keep the vol down button and press the power button once...and wait 5s

Edit: Just saw its already answered above

Sakem said:
Start in bootloader mode. Shut down the phone / push and keep the vol down button and press the power button once...and wait 5s
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Thanks, my SPL is 3.03.000!! So I need to flash a ROM or something to get SPL 1.42.0000?
I currently don't have a SD card with me right now as I left it at home and will be going home next week. So is there anyway I can flash a ROM without using a sd card?

You need to flash an old rom to get an old spl, then flash HSPL 2.08.
No need for a sd for this, juste start your phone in BL mode and execute the ruu from your pc

Which ROM should I download from the HTC website? I mean theres a few ROMs for HTC HD2.
Theres ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 - 2010-10-11
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 - 2010-01-25
etc?
Sorry for all the questions !

I used this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995 (the Standard Version) as it already have the phone unlocked etc and have no problems with it...and had no problems activating it as well. However a lot of the other ROM's now also have your phone already unlocked etc...and most ROM's at the moment should be pretty similar as it uses the same base files.
Edit:
However...on this ROM...one of the first XAP files you should load is the Connection Setup.xap

omarza said:
I used this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995 (the Standard Version) as it already have the phone unlocked etc and have no problems with it...and had no problems activating it as well. However a lot of the other ROM's now also have your phone already unlocked etc...and most ROM's at the moment should be pretty similar as it uses the same base files.
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Sorry I mean't from HTC website to get the SPL 1.4... , I don't know which one to download on the HTC website!

Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898128 and at the bottom you will see a post explaining a bit more with this link to ROM's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623283
Let me know if that's what you are after?

yes that totally solved all my issue! thank you very much