Bluetooth Keyboard - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey guys,
is there a way to pair a bluetoothkeyboard with the defy? And is there a cable to pair the defy with a tv?
Mfg.Homer

As for the cable to TV, I don't think so.
But wouldn't any Bluetooth keyboard just pair with the Defy, or is that dependent on some profile that is not present on the Defy? I.e. do you own a keyboard and can't make it work, or do you just want to know if it would work?

There is a keyboard from "HAMA" which works...but you need any add-on...

keyboards
Tried a chinese bluetooth kb ... driver didn´t work.
3rd party drivers did somehow, but have been a pain in the ass in daily use.
Hardware keyboard which would be best in thinking of energy doesn´t because of missing USB Host.
Still: Defy ist the best phone I ever had ... but the road is loohooong ...

A quick Google search suggests there are enough keyboards to choose from. Just check if there is an Android driver and you should be fine.
Don't really get why one would want a keyboard though. It kind of undoes the portability and it seems a hassle to use. Don't get me wrong: I loved the keyboard on my old HTC Wizard. But that one was integrated in the phone which might be a better option for you as well!

AgentSmith said:
A quick Google search suggests there are enough keyboards to choose from. Just check if there is an Android driver and you should be fine.
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- would be so cool if it would be that easy ...
AgentSmith said:
Don't really get why one would want a keyboard though. It kind of undoes the portability and it seems a hassle to use. Don't get me wrong: I loved the keyboard on my old HTC Wizard. But that one was integrated in the phone which might be a better option for you as well!
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- because you need some sort of time machine to get another waterproof mobile with a querty keyboard.
I would have liked a micro one for a adventure trip to proper blog and chat - the phones are nearly usable for that.

It works with Froyo !
Sorry for such a late post. Anyway, I bought this cheap BT keyboard some time ago. Whilst running the stock Eclair ROM, I had to use 3rd party applications to handle it, but never without lots of issues. I had bought it for test purposes, since Android was not listed as a supported platform. But after I flashed Froyo (in my case, the 3.4.3-11 UK ROM), the keyboard just works as it should. After it was paired (the digit sequence specified on the phone - I chose the widely known 0000 - must be entered in the BT keyboard, followed by <Enter>), I just turn the keyboard on (with the Defy's BT radio also turned on, of course) and press any key. The bluetooth link is immediately established, and I'm able enter data to any applications through it.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos

good news
thanks4info.
I will jump on the CM7 train as soon as (a)gps is ok and will try there.
Still hoping to get usb host running, as other projects successfully activated it per software. Will post results after playing around with CM7.

casouzaj said:
Sorry for such a late post. Anyway, I bought this cheap BT keyboard some time ago. Whilst running the stock Eclair ROM, I had to use 3rd party applications to handle it, but never without lots of issues. I had bought it for test purposes, since Android was not listed as a supported platform. But after I flashed Froyo (in my case, the 3.4.3-11 UK ROM), the keyboard just works as it should. After it was paired (the digit sequence specified on the phone - I chose the widely known 0000 - must be entered in the BT keyboard, followed by <Enter>), I just turn the keyboard on (with the Defy's BT radio also turned on, of course) and press any key. The bluetooth link is immediately established, and I'm able enter data to any applications through it.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos
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Ive got the same keyboard but this does nto work at all (CM10 ) it says its conected, but theres no text input, even with thrid party apps.
useless piece of junk.
Any recomendations for something that actualy works??

2Pints said:
Ive got the same keyboard but this does nto work at all (CM10 ) it says its conected, but theres no text input, even with thrid party apps.
useless piece of junk.
Any recomendations for something that actualy works??
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Wow! For a long time, there was no posts at all in this thread. Ok, back to business. You see, I'm running CM10 too. In fact, due to some issues, I'm still on Quarx 11/17 build. Anyway, until I saw your post, my keyboard was forgotten in a drawer. I took it off, turned it on, pressed a key, and, although it was already paired with the phone, an entry in the status bar came up, which, upon being tapped, asked me to either allow or deny the connection. After a couple of times answering 'Yes', the bluetooth icon, in the status bar, turned blue, and, from that point on, all the text I entered was correctly taken by the phone, without any issues. Have you gone through this phase as well?
EDIT: have just flashed Quarx's CM10.1 05/27 build. Couldn't find a way to make my BT keyboard work with it. Haven't tried his CM10 new buiild, but as they seem to share all the radio (BT, Wifi) parts, it is most probable that it won't work there either. I'm already back to his 11/17 build.

there's some keybords that works, but it depends on the ROM too.
I had a chinese one, and it was a lot better to type than the touch keyboard, but, for me it wasn't very useful because I was unable to use some accents, and I usualy type in Portuguese.

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bluetooth keyboard in HD problem

when I connected HD with iGo Stowaway Ultra—Slim Keyboard, if I type too fast, HD couldn't follow my input, like I input work, HD only show k, only type very slow, HD can follow, but I try in Samsung I900, It works very good, how can I fix this problem
type slower! lol jk. I don't know. Didn't even realize I can connect the iGo keyboard to this. I'll be sure to give it a try.
I would also check for other BT devices, this problem gets worse if my laptop (with BT) is close. I obviously don't type fast enough as away from the laptop the problem goes away.
I have had this problem, and I am unsure how it was resolved (perhaps not helpful) but I shall speculate.
I had a think outside bluetooth keyboard, which had this exact problem with input that you describe. I have been having problems with three buttons not functioning for a month of so and they finally just stopped working altogether. I love the keyboard so I ordered a new IGO bluetooth keyboard, installed the drivers which came with it, and the keyboard works perfectly without lag.
NOW, my guess is that,
1) the driver is the issue (ie you need an upto date one)
2) I have installed the HD FREEZE FIX which was released. This COULD relate to the bluetooth keyboard as the prob with freezing occurred in the software keyboard while inputing data.
Perhaps this isn't very helpful, but I thought I'd ahre my experience with you and let you know that it WILL work, perhaps try one of the two methods above and see if it helps.
BANE

PS3 keyboard on HD2

I had my PS3 keyboard working great on my topaz( same bt as HD2?). I was using an energy rom and I had to install BT_HID.cab file and it paired and worked great is was handy as hell. I could play galaga, Dial the phone from across the room, using ear peice, texting was wonderful,etc. All new roms I try on my hd2 (energy, kumar, mirri, elgoncia) non will allow paring of keypad.
The phone sees the keypad, starts to pair , the phone gives me a number to type in the keypad and the keypad leaves paring mode and an error occurs. I tried the bt_hid.cab file on all roms and still no luck. If I had it workind my HD2 would be perfect for me. I want to know if the bt from my topaz can be put on my HD2? or maybe the bluetooth manager? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and it doesnt seem to difficult because topaz and hd2 have same similar bluetooth stack and software if I am correct. It seems a lot of people would like this fixed or patched. I am going to write down what version of what works on topaz and start there. Please help me OBi Wan HaHA
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I had my PS3 keyboard working great on my topaz( same bt as HD2?). I was using an energy rom and I had to install BT_HID.cab file and it paired and worked great is was handy as hell. I could play galaga, Dial the phone from across the room, using ear peice, texting was wonderful,etc. All new roms I try on my hd2 (energy, kumar, mirri, elgoncia) non will allow paring of keypad.
The phone sees the keypad, starts to pair , the phone gives me a number to type in the keypad and the keypad leaves paring mode and an error occurs. I tried the bt_hid.cab file on all roms and still no luck. If I had it workind my HD2 would be perfect for me. I want to know if the bt from my topaz can be put on my HD2? or maybe the bluetooth manager? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and it doesnt seem to difficult because topaz and hd2 have same similar bluetooth stack and software if I am correct. It seems a lot of people would like this fixed or patched. I am going to write down what version of what works on topaz and start there. Please help me OBi Wan HaHA
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Not sure if this will help you , but other BT keyboards do work on the HD2 so, do not think it is actually an HID driver issue, I use an apple BT keyboard, and a Logitech DiNovo, both work very well ... I had one issue with the keyboard that was very close to what you see with yours, I took the batteries out of the keyboard overnight, it paired the next morning without a problem ....
Might help, might not ....
thanks
Thanks for the input. Tell me why there is a great number of people wanting tekosoft to adapt to broadcomm for Hd2 . Loads of people waiting for someting that worked great on my topaz. I have tried the reset button on the keypad. The phone spits out a 5 digit code and the pairing lights on keypad go out. I have tried lots of options. The bluetooth manager looks very different on hd2 than it does on topaz. Since the hd2 sees the keypad it seems like it might be easy fix since I have both phones to tinker with. What rom are you using?
Has anyone made any progress on this i would love to get this working on my hd2
if it pairs the same as the ps3 controller, this might be a workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689984

[Q] Is there anyway to use bluetooth HID keyboard on HD2 android

Dear all,
Is there anyway to use bluetooth HID keyboard in HD2 android?
I found similar issue mentioned under nexus one thread.
http://i-miss-erin.blogspot.com/2009/09/connect-bluetooth-keyboard-in-android.html
tried it, but it doesn't work.
I also tried some 3rd parties software from market. All doesn't seems to work for me as well.
eg.
bluekeyboard jp
Blueinput demo
but without luck.
I am using freedom i-connex bluetooth keyboard.
Anyone facing the same problem? would be grateful if there are solution to it.
thanks!
I am surprise that no one else is using bluetooth keyboard to connect to HD2 android.
Please guide on how to get it done. Thanks.
Hi there. I did some research and found that Android builds with Cyanogen mod will allow you to use a Bluetooth keyboard.
To test this out, I went ahead and bought three BT keyboards from Fry's Electronics (Microsoft Mobile Bluetooth Keyboard 6000, Logitech diNovo Edge, and Apple Bluetooth Keyboard). I wasn't able to get any of them to successfully pair up and connect with my HD2 (running Android - MDJ Froyo Sense Revolution v.1.5 build). I keep getting a "Disconnected" message when I tried typing. After changing the build to Hyperdroid v.1.7 (which has Cyanogen Mod), I found that everyone of the BT keyboards that I bought worked. Also, Blue Input is better than Blue Keyboard JP for most of the BT keyboards. The input response is very slow/choppy with Blue Keyboard JP.
I haven't tried the other builds with Cyanogen mod yet, but I'm guessing that they support BT keyboards as well.
Hope this helps.
Only Hyperdroid 1.7 works. I've tried other Cyanogenmod_builds
My keyboard Geyes by name, Gey by nature. Advertised as WM6.5 AND Android SPP.. No it bloody well isn't..
Anyway after more hours than I care to mention. Here's my results
- NexusHD2-FRG83D_V1.8_(Froyo 2.2.1) - NO won't pair/work
- Ginger_hd2_v1.2 - Connects and pairs but still can't type a thing. (really like this build too. Big buttons/icons AND FM Radio)
- HD2ONE-0.3.4a OR B - a I can't get it to build on my hd2 B.... Connects/pairs but as above. Including the really like (FM radio, too)
- MDJ_FroYo_Streak_v.0.4_RAM_Edition - Don't remember it pairing, nor connecting and therefore it certainly didn't work... FM on this one, (haven't tried the Dec 16 build)
- Biffmod-hd2-v-1-3-1 - No pair, no connect, no woman no cry.. Cyan 6.0 not 6.1 this one...
No luck with either
bluekeyboard jp (constantly dis/connects)
or
Blueinput demo (same realm of won't pair, so cannot use it)
HyperDroid1.7.......... smaller icons/buttons no FM Radio But yes!! I type in bought quickoffice numbers and letters.. haven't quite worked out Fn keys yet.
It's a yes though....It does work.
The Holy Grail would be to combine builds. FM Radio bigger buttons.. Nope, I don't know how to do that.. Very reluctant to mess anymore. Nearly driven me mental this has... Somehow it would mean extracting the BT files from Hyperdroid1.7 and putting them into one of the others HD2ONE, perhaps?
same problem here, paired/Connected, but i get nothing when i type.
and when i type hciconfig, it shows that HD2 is actually receiving data from my BT keyboard, even blueinput can make a sound when i press keyboard
is there a solution? bcz this is driving me crazy...
Did Hyperdroid work for you? This is straight out of the box, with none of the other 3rd party services.
I haven't tried any of the 3rd party stuff with other builds where the keyboard does connect and pair, but where the keyboard doesn't actually work.
YES, HyperdroidV1.7 DOES work, with no 3rd party software, and this might be the only one I know that works, but still, Fn, Caps and some keys won't work.
I don't like the layout of Hyperdroid, the icons and fonts are too small, and the latest version of psx4Droid won't work in full screen mode, but Nesoid works perfectly well, that's for sure
what I want most is that I can directly use bluez in darkstone's SuperRAM v1.5 to connect to my BTKB, no 3rd party software, but as I say, I get nothing :-(
I figured this might be some kind of bluetooth configuration problem, bcz other android devices like nexus one, EVO, Dell Streak DO work(maybe not perfectly well)
BTW, my BTKB is iPazzPort
I've learned that for Freedom Pro Keyboard, there is an official driver to install before you can use it under android, here is the link:
www.simplemobilereview.com/step-by-step-freedom-pro-keyboard-setup-with-android
I don't know if this works for freedom i-connex BTKB as well, and havn't test it on other BTKB.
I found a solution for blueinput, and get it WORKED under other biluds !!
here is the link:
www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2590
seems that I didn't quite understand how to use this tiny software before...
and again, the keyboard won't respond when I use Nesoid, which works perfectly well in HyperDroid, but u can type text though.
so, if I use bluez utility, the connection seems ok, the problem lies in the selection of the right keyboard, and how to switch to the right keyboard? I tried install other input method like google, but it won't help :-(
Yes, exactly my point. I've seen that Superfast Rom version and tried it. Yes, it's very fact.
I share your issues with the hyperdroid1.7 version. Smaller buttons, no FM and it's just not as slick as some of the others (HD2ONE and the Ginger_hd one.
I did find some BT files in hyperdroid, some .so files and copied them across. That didn't work though, I don't know what I'm doing. I only chose those because they seemed to be BT files.
It might be time to email 'Pongster' the guy who appears to have put Hyperdroid together from other builds. Nobody responded to me in that thread. I'm a bit reluctant to PM though, it seems to be bad form to me. It's just that we're so close. If we could identify which files it is and simply copy them across then we could ? amend any build..
Do you know of any other 3rd party BT programs? Although, to be honest I'm sick of fiddling (not sure it ever ends with this sort of things though).
Bluetooth HID list of builds that work + Dev HID Question
Status on SD builds in which BT works - Hyperdroid 1.7 and all 3 of Shubcrafts builds.
NO OTHERS to DATE (I've tried 13 Cyanogenmod builds)
Issue- Why do some builds work and not others?
Speculation - It must be some .so files, build.prob and or rootsfs
I've tried copying all the BT files I can find from Root/system (in the builds in which it's accessible and I've updated the build.prop Tried to get Ginger_HD, Nexus, HD2ONE, phiremod_SkinnyEvo_Final and Biffmod-hd2-v-1-3-1 to work. No luck.
Why is it that some Cyanogenmod_builds work and other don't (some don't pair, some do pair but you still can't type anything with the connected BT keyboard) at all.
If the files., issue can be identified then couldn't they be put into the (one so far) NAND Cyanogenmod build?
ukdutypaid said:
Status on SD builds in which BT works - Hyperdroid 1.7 and all 3 of Shubcrafts builds.
NO OTHERS to DATE (I've tried 13 Cyanogenmod builds)
Issue- Why do some builds work and not others?
Speculation - It must be some .so files, build.prob and or rootsfs
I've tried copying all the BT files I can find from Root/system (in the builds in which it's accessible and I've updated the build.prop Tried to get Ginger_HD, Nexus, HD2ONE, phiremod_SkinnyEvo_Final and Biffmod-hd2-v-1-3-1 to work. No luck.
Why is it that some Cyanogenmod_builds work and other don't (some don't pair, some do pair but you still can't type anything with the connected BT keyboard) at all.
If the files., issue can be identified then couldn't they be put into the (one so far) NAND Cyanogenmod build?
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I would really also like to get a Bluetooth keyboard to connect to the nand roms.

[Q] Question about "mini bluetooth keyboard" and drivers

Hi,
I already posted the same thread in "question and answers"; but since it's a WM related question, I also post it in this subforum. Moderators; feel free to remove any of the two topics.
I have one of those generic mini bluetooth keyboards. It works on my Asus A696 (WM6.0), apart from the fact that it does not recognize the "fn" key; which is needed for some less important things (modus change, contacts, ...); but also for some rather important things like the question mark "?" .
I did some research, and I installed BlueInput, which is included with most "mini bluetooth keyboard"s (but apparently not with mine). Anyway, installed it and it did not recognize any keyboards. Turns out that it is not compatible with the broadcom bluetooth driver, which is used on my Asus device.
So I downloaded the special "broadcom version", and now it works. Not all "fn" functions do, but at least the more important ones like the arrows and the question mark do.
Point is, (although I've set BlueInput to auto start) I have to put my keyboard on discoverable mode always before I can use it, and reconnect it manually in BlueInput (have to retype the "binding code" etc.). So if I disable bluetooth (which I often do to preserve battery life), if I put the keyboard off, if I soft reset my device, ... I always have to go through all that hassle again; quite stupid if you know that with the built-in Windows keyboard support, it immediately automatically connects at the moment the bluetooth on my device is on and the keyboard itself is on.
So my basic question (if you're not too tired after this long intro )is: how can I use my bluetooth keyboard with which driver, having the same facilities as just connecting through Windows Mobile AND being able to use important functions through the "fn" key like a question mark?
I already wondered if Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 has better bluetooth keyboard support (I can upgrade to both); but I'd rather not just try it out before I'm sure that it would function.
I hope anyone can help me out solving this issue;
Thanks in advance,
Liopleurodon

Rapoo E6300 bluetooth keyboard problems

Not so much Nexus-7 specifically related, as the problem occurs on both my Droid 4 and my Nexus 7, but I hope someone can help me solve this problem:
Starting from a 'clean' situation with the keyboard unpaired to the tablet, I set the keyboard in pairing mode by pressing the 'connect' button until the bluetooth LED starts flashing rapidly.
I then go to the bluetooth settings of one of the above devices, I select the bluetooth keyboard from the 'available devices' list.
My Android device then prompts me to enter a certain passcode on the keyboard, followed by the ENTER key.
I do this and the keyboard successfully registers in the Android device as a paired device.
At this point I am able to use the keyboard without any problems.
However when I turn off the keyboard, or let it go to sleep, and then turn it back on later, the keyboard connects successfully (I can see 'Connected' in the bluetooth settings screen), but it's not possible anymore to enter any text or use any of the keys.
I try reconnecting several times each time turning the keyboard off in between, but alas, nothing helps.
If I 'unpair' the device from my Android device and re-pair it, it works fine again until the next time I turn it off.
Needless to say it's not really a workable solution having to re-pair the keyboard each time I want to use it.
To rule out the Android devices being the culprit, I have tested the same process with another bluetooth keyboard (Logitech DiNovo Edge) and it doesn't have the problem.
However, using the Rapoo keyboard on a colleagues iphone, everything works perfectly.
I've come across other people having this problem, and some say it used to work fine in Android 2.3, but at this moment I haven't got a device with 2.3 on it to test with.
I tested with a colleagues 2.2 Android phone but that one wouldn't even pair.
I will try tonight with my girlfriends 2.3 Moto Defy+ and report back.
Didn't get around to trying this on 2.3 yesterday.
I also sent an email to Rapoo support asking them if they knew any fix for this, and this was what I got in the mailbag this morning:
Dear Customer,
Hello!
Please note that E6300 is specially designed for Ipad.It works with other computers which use Windows or Mac operation system, the shortcut keys for Ipad may be useless.Besides, the only cell phone it supports is Iphone 4 and the the shortcut keys for Ipad may also useless.
Thanks for your support to our products.
Best regards,
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What a bunch of horse dung...
i have the same problem with my nexus 7 and the rapoo 6300.
i allready tried different kernels and roms.
at first i also had to repair the keyboard once it disconnects. (happens quite fast, sometimes after not typing for some seconds, but sometimes it keeps connected and usable for about 10 minutes)
but i figured out that you don´t have to repair it when it disconnects. when it says "connected" but it is not possible to write something, just wait some seconds, and it will work. (at least at my device, stock kernel @ smooth rom)
still very annoying, but i think it shows that there is a solution for this problem.
After some research i found out that some people had this problem since android 4.0. (worked fine at gingerbread)
but i tested the keyboard at a friends nexus s with jellybean miui rom and it worked fine.
gnomedroid said:
After some research i found out that some people had this problem since android 4.0. (worked fine at gingerbread)
but i tested the keyboard at a friends nexus s with jellybean miui rom and it worked fine.
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Another observation, when connected to an Ubuntu 10.04LTS (kernel 2.6.32-44-generic) desktop, the same behavior happens.
To repeat, you can pair the keyboard, and after the first sleep, even when it reconnects (pressing the Connect button helps), it does not generate input events for the desktop either.
Same problem here. Tested with a GNEX and a N10. Even with the latest 4.2.2 it shows the same problem … one sleep and you have to pair again. POS!
Any comments on Nexus 7 with CM or AOSP? I heard these mods use a different keyboard driver...
: I tested with a colleagues 2.2 Android phone but that one wouldn't even pair.
I will try tonight with my girlfriends 2.3 Moto Defy+ and report back.[/QUOTE]
I tested Rapoo e6300 against a HTC desire HD with 2.3.1. No chance: it will not pair. Rapoo can not be used with my N7, it just worked ten minutes after it is paired, and then it starts disconnecting. And no input gets through. Waiting a few seconds have no effect, Bluetooth is basically not working.
Got major connectivity issues with Rapoo E6300 here too on Nexus 7 with SmoothROM 4.4 (Cm based on 4.2.1)
Swapped it for a Rapoo E6100: works great! I did get some issue with reconnecting to Nexus 7 after I tried to pair the keyboard to my HTC
One X (which didnt work at all).
Had to reset the whole connection with nexus, but as long as i dont switch off Bluetooth on the nexus it works fine. Switching off or sleepjng the keybord is fine.
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