Hi,
I already posted the same thread in "question and answers"; but since it's a WM related question, I also post it in this subforum. Moderators; feel free to remove any of the two topics.
I have one of those generic mini bluetooth keyboards. It works on my Asus A696 (WM6.0), apart from the fact that it does not recognize the "fn" key; which is needed for some less important things (modus change, contacts, ...); but also for some rather important things like the question mark "?" .
I did some research, and I installed BlueInput, which is included with most "mini bluetooth keyboard"s (but apparently not with mine). Anyway, installed it and it did not recognize any keyboards. Turns out that it is not compatible with the broadcom bluetooth driver, which is used on my Asus device.
So I downloaded the special "broadcom version", and now it works. Not all "fn" functions do, but at least the more important ones like the arrows and the question mark do.
Point is, (although I've set BlueInput to auto start) I have to put my keyboard on discoverable mode always before I can use it, and reconnect it manually in BlueInput (have to retype the "binding code" etc.). So if I disable bluetooth (which I often do to preserve battery life), if I put the keyboard off, if I soft reset my device, ... I always have to go through all that hassle again; quite stupid if you know that with the built-in Windows keyboard support, it immediately automatically connects at the moment the bluetooth on my device is on and the keyboard itself is on.
So my basic question (if you're not too tired after this long intro )is: how can I use my bluetooth keyboard with which driver, having the same facilities as just connecting through Windows Mobile AND being able to use important functions through the "fn" key like a question mark?
I already wondered if Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 has better bluetooth keyboard support (I can upgrade to both); but I'd rather not just try it out before I'm sure that it would function.
I hope anyone can help me out solving this issue;
Thanks in advance,
Liopleurodon
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can this be done?
my magician detect the intelli mouse, but can do nothing with it...
cant also use the "stowaway think outside mouse" drivers since they detect only the Stowaway mouse... also couldnt use the IFrog Bluetooth keyboard drivers, even though they support HID detection...
can someone know how to connect between these two?
any news on that... i´m trying to use intellimouse explorer, too... no luck...
someone out there to patch the Thinkoutside drivers ?
I saw somebody saying that the widdcom BT stack supported the mouse...
I dont know if its true, but to find out id have to intstall a new OS (im on 2005) and hack around with BT stacks...
Id rather just hear from somebody running the 2.02/2.06 sin merged rom with the widdcom stack to see if it works. But i guess there isnt anybody with that combination and a BT mouse too.
Magician only...
i ment it to work on the magician.
do you have a magician?
I have a german magician,
neither ms bt mous nor ms bt keyb works!
maybe we should state out that bluetooth firstly only specifies the way how information is being transferred: via radio in a certain frequency - nothing else!
It does NOT determine the way how the transferred information is being interpreted. Lets say when you connect your monitor to the vga connector it is already clear what signals are transferred and how they are read out to compose the picture on the screen.
In other cases (e.g. tracking the mouse movements) we must specify before any exchange of data how is will be interpreted. This is done in so called protocols also known as 'profiles' when you speak of protocols in connection with bluetooth devices.
This means that a bt mouse will be detected (this is standardized) but your device will not know how to interpret the data which is being sent from your mouse unless it supports the matching profile (should be 'HID' - Human Interface Device protocol in this case).
The hardware support of the bt hardware itself plus the additional profiles is called a 'stack'. On Magician you will find the original Microsoft BT stack which lacks of many profiles. It has turned out that other stacks like the one from Toshiba or Widcomm also work (more or less) on Magician. Maybe these ones support your hardware. Let me advise you that there are still many issues with alien stacks so dont install these unless your absolutely sure what youre doing!
Hope that i could make things a little bit clearer for you.
regards,
Quappo
Great!
Could we pin this post within the board so it stays on top or - maybe the better solution - could we publish it in the wiki? I guess that's the best newbie explanation of bluetooth I ever read... 8)
Great post, quapo! 8)
Still no HID driver for PPC
Great Answer!!!! ;-)
OK, i knew all that.
still no answer...:-(
i'm a real fan of my bt foldable bt keyboard by hewlett packard. use it often and with satisfaction on my hp hx4700 WITH WIFI... was hoping i could get my touch dual to work as a modem for my hx4700 but haven't succeeded so far. no problem since i can do the same in large mail messages and such on the touch. just make sure to carry both. problem is that i can't get the bt keyboard connected. the hp drivers don't allow installation and seem to be hp signed. anybody have a suggestion? is the hp a 3rd party branded bt keyboard so that i can use independent drivers? the td doesn't seem to recognise the keyboard when it is mdae discoverable. like to keep both and have great memories of working over a nokia umts connection on the large hx4700 display albeit only wm5. gave me the opportunity to drive communication cost for my (former - no relation) employer to the fullest by doing terminal server sessions for troubleshooting whilst on vacation. without a modem or a decent keyboard i can not do this anymore with just the hx4700. wardriving or unapproved use of open networks is illegal in most of europe nowadays. in the Netherland not yet and it really suits me to roam in on somebodies open connection, but i'm affraid i have to go find other means of communications and the td has been the wrong choice from this point of view.
did you try bluemouse already? should work with every bluetooth-hid. also keyboards.
Too bad. looks good, but installer flashes by with some text stating "skipping...". too fast too read. whenever i pair the bt keyboard i get a serial port as interface but no bluemouse to be found anywhere in the menu;s or folders. seems bluemouse thinks it shouldn't be installed on this wm6. however it shows the license agreement at start and the read me when done.
further investigation learns that the installer finishes when using the cab download and installing both modules separately. reading the docs shows that the hid device should export input device service. the bt keyboard at hand only exports serial port... anybody got suggestions?
Ermm this is a very stupid question, but I appear not to be able to send recieve stuff with my brand new Hermes. If a file is selected in the File Explorer and 'Beam' is selected, then the BT search works fine, but the usual Align IR port line doesnt even appear :S
Furthermore, the IR LED doesnt turn on (I checked by watching through another phone camera, which can 'see' IR turn on)?
I cannot recieve files either, it would appear, despite beam being enabled in the communications screen and the 'accept incoming beams': nothing happens, other phones can't find the device...?
Ive searched IrDA problems, but found nothing, can anyone suggest an easy way to test (I realise this is a very noobish problem, so thanks for the time spent reading this)?
PS I am running this rom:
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_h...ermes_rom_wm6_1_wwe_s64_v2_download_2057.html
this is a new kind of problem and the thing is not everybody is using IR for their communication connection. IR is slower than bluetooth so no body bother for it. Even I have used only 5 times (may be) in two years for business card to some non bluetooth handsets
Although IR is not very popular now, I still use IR function very frequently. I use it to transfer small file to my PC which has no bluetooth function built-in, but has an IR port on it.I like the feeling of "everything always be connected".
Back to the title, you could try two things.
1) Check the settings->connection->wireless send/receive( I don't know the exact name on your phone, I use Chinese version, the english name of it is just my guess ), the check box in it should be checked.
2) In wireless manager, in its setting there is also an controlling stuff related to wireless connection, check it ,and make it appear in the manager main screen, then you can turn it on.
You can try above two thing first.
yinx said:
1) Check the settings->connection->wireless send/receive( I don't know the exact name on your phone, I use Chinese version, the english name of it is just my guess ), the check box in it should be checked.
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just to help......its called settings->connection->beam in english
Actually I have a similar problem, though I have an Atom.
Tried flashing, didn't work for me. Guess it is a hardware problem.
When I cooked my polish rom there was an option normaly enable witch turn of the irda port. When I turn it of the irda works fine. Unfortunetly my present rom WM6.1 wasn't cooked and irda is turn off. Could somebody shaw me way to turn it on? THX.
Just tried a few latest windows 6.1 roms and found out that my bluetooth headset (I tried a few) is not asking for passcode anymore (it used to ask to enter "0000"). On one hand - it's a cool feature saving you time and efforts to pair your devices. On the other hand- it's quite dangerous. Just imagine somebody near you (while you're having lunch) is playing with bluetooth on the laptop and connects to your phone without you knowing it. Potentially, he can download all your info from the phone. No good!
I was thinking that it maybe something wrong with my bluetooth or the ROM on the phone. But after I did a quick search here, it appears that Windows 6.1 has this neat feature of "automatic cycling of the standard passcodes" during pairing process. Is there any fix to this security breach? Or maybe I'm not getting it quite right?
well i still havent paired my headset with my pdacorner v23 NonRBSN rom but if you go to comm manager, hit settings, the click on bluetooth. On the tab Security there should be a box that says authentication passkey required. i dont know if thats bluetooth or infrared....but im sure its bluetooth.
Hope that works.
With all the wm 6.1's I've used it appears to only work with BT headsets... GPS and other BT devices need a key....
Cheers...
If that's so - it's good. I'll experiment with bluetooth dongle on my PC.
hey guys,
is there a way to pair a bluetoothkeyboard with the defy? And is there a cable to pair the defy with a tv?
Mfg.Homer
As for the cable to TV, I don't think so.
But wouldn't any Bluetooth keyboard just pair with the Defy, or is that dependent on some profile that is not present on the Defy? I.e. do you own a keyboard and can't make it work, or do you just want to know if it would work?
There is a keyboard from "HAMA" which works...but you need any add-on...
keyboards
Tried a chinese bluetooth kb ... driver didn´t work.
3rd party drivers did somehow, but have been a pain in the ass in daily use.
Hardware keyboard which would be best in thinking of energy doesn´t because of missing USB Host.
Still: Defy ist the best phone I ever had ... but the road is loohooong ...
A quick Google search suggests there are enough keyboards to choose from. Just check if there is an Android driver and you should be fine.
Don't really get why one would want a keyboard though. It kind of undoes the portability and it seems a hassle to use. Don't get me wrong: I loved the keyboard on my old HTC Wizard. But that one was integrated in the phone which might be a better option for you as well!
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A quick Google search suggests there are enough keyboards to choose from. Just check if there is an Android driver and you should be fine.
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- would be so cool if it would be that easy ...
AgentSmith said:
Don't really get why one would want a keyboard though. It kind of undoes the portability and it seems a hassle to use. Don't get me wrong: I loved the keyboard on my old HTC Wizard. But that one was integrated in the phone which might be a better option for you as well!
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- because you need some sort of time machine to get another waterproof mobile with a querty keyboard.
I would have liked a micro one for a adventure trip to proper blog and chat - the phones are nearly usable for that.
It works with Froyo !
Sorry for such a late post. Anyway, I bought this cheap BT keyboard some time ago. Whilst running the stock Eclair ROM, I had to use 3rd party applications to handle it, but never without lots of issues. I had bought it for test purposes, since Android was not listed as a supported platform. But after I flashed Froyo (in my case, the 3.4.3-11 UK ROM), the keyboard just works as it should. After it was paired (the digit sequence specified on the phone - I chose the widely known 0000 - must be entered in the BT keyboard, followed by <Enter>), I just turn the keyboard on (with the Defy's BT radio also turned on, of course) and press any key. The bluetooth link is immediately established, and I'm able enter data to any applications through it.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos
good news
thanks4info.
I will jump on the CM7 train as soon as (a)gps is ok and will try there.
Still hoping to get usb host running, as other projects successfully activated it per software. Will post results after playing around with CM7.
casouzaj said:
Sorry for such a late post. Anyway, I bought this cheap BT keyboard some time ago. Whilst running the stock Eclair ROM, I had to use 3rd party applications to handle it, but never without lots of issues. I had bought it for test purposes, since Android was not listed as a supported platform. But after I flashed Froyo (in my case, the 3.4.3-11 UK ROM), the keyboard just works as it should. After it was paired (the digit sequence specified on the phone - I chose the widely known 0000 - must be entered in the BT keyboard, followed by <Enter>), I just turn the keyboard on (with the Defy's BT radio also turned on, of course) and press any key. The bluetooth link is immediately established, and I'm able enter data to any applications through it.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos
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Ive got the same keyboard but this does nto work at all (CM10 ) it says its conected, but theres no text input, even with thrid party apps.
useless piece of junk.
Any recomendations for something that actualy works??
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Ive got the same keyboard but this does nto work at all (CM10 ) it says its conected, but theres no text input, even with thrid party apps.
useless piece of junk.
Any recomendations for something that actualy works??
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Wow! For a long time, there was no posts at all in this thread. Ok, back to business. You see, I'm running CM10 too. In fact, due to some issues, I'm still on Quarx 11/17 build. Anyway, until I saw your post, my keyboard was forgotten in a drawer. I took it off, turned it on, pressed a key, and, although it was already paired with the phone, an entry in the status bar came up, which, upon being tapped, asked me to either allow or deny the connection. After a couple of times answering 'Yes', the bluetooth icon, in the status bar, turned blue, and, from that point on, all the text I entered was correctly taken by the phone, without any issues. Have you gone through this phase as well?
EDIT: have just flashed Quarx's CM10.1 05/27 build. Couldn't find a way to make my BT keyboard work with it. Haven't tried his CM10 new buiild, but as they seem to share all the radio (BT, Wifi) parts, it is most probable that it won't work there either. I'm already back to his 11/17 build.
there's some keybords that works, but it depends on the ROM too.
I had a chinese one, and it was a lot better to type than the touch keyboard, but, for me it wasn't very useful because I was unable to use some accents, and I usualy type in Portuguese.