Why is it so hard to hack the samsung devices? - Galaxy S I9000 General

Im curious to know, samsung devices always take longer in developing roms, htc devices are super fast and get the roms within weeks, im seriously considering buying a galaxy s 2 but im sure samsung will put their HORRIBLE iphone wannabe ui touchwiz in it , and i wanna get rid of it ASAP ,why do rom development takes longer? is it because not that many developers have samsung devices or because they are just harder to hack?

There is no cracking, perhaps we can say hacking...
And HTC devices were the ones choose by google to run a dev rom (on nexus 1), now it's samsung...
Just wait..
And, touchwiz is far far from iphone ui, and on any device you can choose another launcher, in the market, without any "cracking".
And, that thread is a question... so it should be in...? In....? Questions !!!! Yeeees ! First learn how to search, read, only after that you can "crack"..
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This should be in Q&A.
Samsung ROMs are much harder to developer for because Samsung took Android and changed everything they could get away with. All the internals of the Android system has been changed in some way. This is why the guys porting CyanogenMod have run into a spot of trouble. Also HTC phones have been on the market much longer then the Galaxy S so there all fairly similar which speeds up the development process.

WiwiPouPou said:
There is no cracking, perhaps we can say hacking...
And HTC devices were the ones choose by google to run a dev rom (on nexus 1), now it's samsung...
Just wait..
And, touchwiz is far far from iphone ui, and on any device you can choose another launcher, in the market, without any "cracking".
And, that thread is a question... so it should be in...? In....? Questions !!!! Yeeees ! First learn how to search, read, only after that you can "crack"..
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far from iphone ui? its basically a ripoff! the menus scroll horizontally , the icons , the camera interface i could go on...
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Iphone
Galaxy S
Sorry, you're right this should be moved to q&a

Chad_Petree said:
far from iphone ui? its basically a ripoff! the menus scroll horizontally , the icons , the camera interface i could go on...
Iphone
Galaxy S
Sorry, you're right this should be moved to q&a
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Im sorry... but i dont think its that similar to the iphone UI
I know the application menu is similar....but there is only so much you can do with that set up...Plus you can change the way you view your apps in the galaxy s...
Also the camera..... seriously apple did not create that design....i had a LG touchscreen phone before the iphone came out ( im pretty sure about that lol) that had a similar camera interface to that....saying samsung stole that from apple is ridiculous.
Some aspects are similar but the interface is hardly a rip-off

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Plus you can change the way you view your apps in the galaxy s...
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Yeah I'm all about the list view, it's at least alphabetic unlike that messy grid. It takes a bit to whip from top to bottom, but all I really do in there is get at things I hardly ever use or fetch something to put on a home screen.

Chad_Petree said:
far from iphone ui? its basically a ripoff! the menus scroll horizontally , the icons , the camera interface i could go on...
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So using your logic the iPhone ripped off the UI from Blackberry, right? Apps on the home screen, notification bar on the top...

Samsung has a phone that is actually easy to hack. No signed firmware, no trick needed to load anything.
But it seems the HTC devices have a larger community. Not strange, because the first Android phone was a HTC, and the original users and hackers have probably moved on to another HTC.
I do not know the mood in other forums, but I feel that plays a part too. Developing is something to do together, not something that a person does because others are demanding it or anything. Also something to be rewarded for (thanks, updates, extensions, people writing documentation and translations, etc).
I think with a better community we could figure out the possibilities of the command line of the SBL and maybe even boot images from external SD. Like done on the Kathrein satellite receiver where a third boot loader is used in place of a normal kernel, and that can load from external storage. And a better community will protect against shouters that say 'you killed my phone'.
However it is like it is. Not because it is impossible, but because of some other reason. Probably mostly consumers, and not hackers, are buying this phone. Because there is not a strong community, it doesn't have the mind share.

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Where are all of the Android Skins?

I figured someone would have created some by now.
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its kinda ugly in my opinion
I'd personally like to see one.
i dont think anyone cares.. I think its kinda ugly.. the phones ugly too..
the only cool thing is that you can move the icons anywhere you want.. other than that.. its meh..
why not judge the final product when it's done, not in the state it's currently in...
pff, already looks much better that any wm6 version i ever saw even with interfaces like mannilla 2d winterface pointui spb ms wad 3 ore anything like that!
Hey,
I would also like to see an Android Skin.
I like it, and its really nicer than WM, it looks like a fingerTouchOS.
Maybe we'll get a skin anytime.
greets doena
Cant be too hard to skin in Throttle Launcher, especially since the next version will support scrolling both vertically and horizontally and with support of panels and on screen object movement.
Goto http://www.throttlelauncher.com
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why not judge the final product when it's done, not in the state it's currently in...
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It's finished! Final!
jdiperla said:
Cant be too hard to skin in Throttle Launcher, especially since the next version will support scrolling both vertically and horizontally and with support of panels and on screen object movement.
Goto http://www.throttlelauncher.com
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I don't think this will be easy in TL. Maybe HS++, probably WAD.
Ufufu said:
It's finished! Final!
I don't think this will be easy in TL. Maybe HS++, probably WAD.
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what i think was meant by the TL post is that the new version is going to have moveable widgets.
and honestly .. the way we do the skinning, application dev and hacking, and everything else is done around here..
we can do it.
the device thus far imo looks like a piece o chit!
the device is ugly and the skin itself is just a white topbar, a wallpaper and some icons, can be done with every app here.
Here is my skinned Android. Hope you like it!
egz whats the batt life on it?
I'd like to put here on snooze!
what i like to see now is some Android inspired apps.. i'm quite sick now of pseudo-iPhone apps (well, excluding A_Cs S2 lineup that is)..
how about an application such like the Android drop down notifications.. it's totally replace the bubble notification icon when you have more than 1 notification.. and it's easier to access than pressing that darn icon on the topbar..
it's pretty handy, if you ask me.. i hope someone develops something like that..
here's a video demo of what i am talking about..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy-YcGNyJds
I'm a big for on Android (I just ordered my G1 from T-Mobile), but I odn't think there's much to the user interface. The Standard interface can be completely customized so I'm sure we'll see quite a few variations once people actualy get their hands on it. Personally, I'd like to see a TouchFLO 3D type of interface on Andoid which will give access to a lot more information than simply having a desktop with a few widgets and icons on it.
If you're really interested in creating somehting like this, my suggestino would be to do it with Wisbar Advance Desktop. You can quite easily create the look, but it might feel a bit static since it's hard go get thing animated with it.
I believe this is a better Android Skin...!!!!
Better than to have just a simple skin of Android, would be to have the complete OS in our HTC devices!
That would be nice!hope someone is working on that
Cheers
Once they release the source to Android in October and more devices start coming out, I think Android is going to be hard to beat. I bet people will start skinning it right away. It has so much potential.
Almost all that android (the one in the first post ) does will be possible to do with next version of ThrottleLauncher:
- Scrolling footer.
- Widgets.
- Scrolling programs.
- Scrolling contacts.
I don't know if a miss something .
I plan to end a private beta during this week, and it the beta testing goes allright I plan to release it as "unstable build" publically so pleople can start messing with the new features .
I look forward an android skin too . When I'm ended developing this new release I'll gladly help anyone trying to develop a theme for throttle.

OS4 on Magic

looks like magic!
is it possible?
ttp://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3ODQxNTI4.html
tgm04 said:
looks like magic!
is it possible?
ttp://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk3ODQxNTI4.html
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Cant view due to lack of flash, but if its what think it is, NOOOOO!!!!!!
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ok, wow .. that video is VERY convincing .. either they made a htc magic housing for an iphone, or it's real.
I want to see that in person.
foobar83 said:
ok, wow .. that video is VERY convincing .. either they made a htc magic housing for an iphone, or it's real.
I want to see that in person.
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Don't see how it could simply be a housing, because the camera lens on the Magic is in the center, and in the iPhone its on the left corner, i seriously think it's legit. I mean, Android itself was ported to the iPhone, so why not iOS to android?
would there be any other link to view this video?
i can't seem to see it,keeps giving me some error that i do not understand
i get the error nomatter what browser i use
Well, it's going to be fake...
I live in the UK, when I tried to play the video I got a message that it was blocked in this region, using a US based VPN solved the issue though.
I'll get the video mirrored shortly.
Mirror here, play with VLC.
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I'm honestly not sure what to think, really. Since all iPhones have 3.5" screens, a Magic case would need to fit proportionally, so someone would need to make a bigger magic-esque housing, and that one looked pretty damn real (notice the backlit keys).
I could just be a video playing, but the screen seemed to be quite responsive.
It's definitely not a theme either...
Kudos for getting the iOS4 working with anything but proprietary apple hardware, but isn't this like replacing your high-tech, highly-customizeable batmobile with something much worse?
It's interesting that the wallpaper slides along with the icons like it does on Android, I didn't think that was possible on iPhone OS. I can only assume it's just an application mimicking iPhone OS (notice how the home button is bound to the back button).
AdrianK said:
Mirror here, play with VLC.
I'm honestly not sure what to think, really. Since all iPhones have 3.5" screens, a Magic case would need to fit proportionally, so someone would need to make a bigger magic-esque housing, and that one looked pretty damn real (notice the backlit keys).
I could just be a video playing, but the screen seemed to be quite responsive.
It's definitely not a theme either...
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thanks for the mirror
if im not wrong, ios's wallpaper does not move when swiping from screen to screen
css626 said:
thanks for the mirror
if im not wrong, ios's wallpaper does not move when swiping from screen to screen
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It doesn't. I have an iPod touch with iOS4. Of course, mine has the nexus lines live wallpaper. XD
This is really cool, and I doubt its fake. It has to be very possible to port it, just who would really want to? You get nothing more than a few bragging rights because I doubt many people want iOS4 over Android 1.6 2.1 or 2.2. The ONLY thing iOS4 has which is probably more hardware related is crisp graphics. Games look AMAZING on iPhones and iPods but pretty bad on Android devices.
www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885 IPHONE OS
szb314 said:
www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885 IPHONE OS
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wheres download link? and its weird language so please post link?
It seems you have to be a member of that forum to get the link/file
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hiapk.com%2Fbbs%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D419885
Well there's an attachment but you need to register, I can't get past the CAPTCHA :-(
EDIT: My bad, didn't see the link above. Meh.
Now I'm no programmer, but I know a couple, and I think one prerequisite to port anything from one platform to another is the source code?
Now who, other than a highly trained special ops team, is going to be able to get that out of Apple?
I call fake on this - most likely a video playing on the phone, and the 'user' is just on the ball mimicking the gestures...
Well, the attachments are just screenshots from the video. And Google Translate says the other users are waiting for a release too.
R3dF1v3 said:
I call fake on this - most likely a video playing on the phone, and the 'user' is just on the ball mimicking the gestures...
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It could also be a skin - I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, actually! Anyway, looks great, I wouldn't mind trying it out.
v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk5MzQ0OTQw.html
19/08/2010 phone works it's true
Right. Showing videos without a real product is the way to do it. Great.

[CLOSED/G2] G2 & Android: Evolution through leaps and bounds.

I'm definitely looking forward to root and ROMs being ported to the G2. I have been using custom ROMs like Cyanogen's mod for quite some time now on my G1, and now that I am without; it has become blatantly obvious that it's the little things that transform quality products into luxury products. Thanks to everyone's work, we are watching the definition of luxury in the making. With every new technology that comes out, and every new line of code the developers and awesome community coders write we are watching the evolution of our devices progress. Can't wait to see how this great phone will fly once I get it away from stock. I'm already interested in the new things that are slowly being discovered about it. As some sit and complain that they aren't getting what they paid for, others are going on an adventure finding out whatever they can from a new product. Its like a giant puzzle that people all over the world are working together to figure out. How interesting it would be if they actually took advantage of situations like this and all the energy that follows them to create fully immersive viral advertising campaigns. I mean everyone who is following the developments of the G2 are putting so much emotion into it all. Whether it's positive or negative we are watching the community come together as a whole, and it's pretty amazing. Whether or not there really are lasting issues with the memory or other parts of the phone, I am enjoying the dynamic of our teamwork to figure it all out.
I'm right there with you bro. This phone will have crazy developer support, I can't wait to see what happens. Things can only get better especially with support from cyanogen.
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I kind of agree. I'm more annoyed that rooting is the only way to get screenshot/wifi tether privileges..
If those two things were incorporated already (booooo Google & T-Mobile) I probably wouldn't root. I find android pleasantly customizable even without the theming options.
you can capture screen shots without root
i followed the instructions at this link (for the Droid) and works great
you'll need to download the SDK developers kit and the Java developers kit but they're both linked in the instructions and your phone will have to be connected to your PC, but once you've done the download, you'll end up with a shortcut icon on your desktop taking you straight to the screen capture function screen
and shot you see below is a capture of my GPS maps with satellite image layered
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-capture-screenshots-with-your-android-mobile-phone/
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you can capture screen shots without root
i followed the instructions at this link (for the Droid) and works great
you'll need to download the SDK developers kit and the Java developers kit but they're both linked in the instructions
and shot you see below is a capture of my GPS maps with satellite image layered
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-capture-screenshots-with-your-android-mobile-phone/
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Obviously I meant without using a computer and having to use the SDK. That's a lot more hassle than it should be.
once we have tablets with USB we should be able to put sdk on them(hopefully) and play with our toys using our other toys
sinistersai4d4d said:
I kind of agree. I'm more annoyed that rooting is the only way to get screenshot/wifi tether privileges..
If those two things were incorporated already (booooo Google & T-Mobile) I probably wouldn't root. I find android pleasantly customizable even without the theming options.
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It's actually all T-Mobile's fault, not Google's. T-Mobile would never let its users have that feature for free.
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Arcadia310 said:
It's actually all T-Mobile's fault, not Google's. T-Mobile would never let its users have that feature for free.
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WEll I was blaming Google for the Screen Shot limitation... but yeah.

[Updated w/ APK] New Market Design including a books and movies tab is being released

http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/google-updating-android-market-app-on-phones-adding-movies-and/
What do you all think?
Apk courtesy of Redneck_Trash
http://www.mediafire.com/?vdocx41t37rnn6y#1
mattykinsx said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/12/google-updating-android-market-app-on-phones-adding-movies-and/
What do you all think?
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Looks cartoony but it u never know
I, for one like it and this was needed very badly since the current Android Market just looks plain ugly.
I agree, I like the look of it in the videos.
eewww It kind of looks a little WP7'ish. I agree the market needs to be updated but not like this.
I still find the current android market alot easier to navigate and alot better then the amazon app store
I think it would be better if they used the home screen from this new market and then just used the rest of the market as it's already designed.
Google should be careful though.
Android, at least for phones, DOES need a more "finished" and "refined" look, that is one of it's faults, but they can't force it.
What does this mean for CM7 users? Will a new gapps be coming out or will we get the market update OTA?
m4rk0358 said:
What does this mean for CM7 users? Will a new gapps be coming out or will we get the market update OTA?
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The market updater "app" comes with gapps so it has it.
So yeah, it will OTA.
APK provided in OP courtesy of Redneck_Trash.
I like it, seems to run smoother/faster on my Evo. I can see the Metro UI'ish layout, but I like it.
I think I will keep my themed market over the new market.
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I think it looks okay; I'll flash it later. Thanks.
Looks good to me, Thanks for the apk.
Thanks Matty! Design looks well. apk worked just fine too.
I hate to admit it, but the apps (or lack of quality ones) is where the market sucks.
iOS truly has that market (pun intended) cornered. Once jail broken, I'm close to enjoying my iPad as a daily driver.
uniquenameevo said:
I hate to admit it, but the apps (or lack of quality ones) is where the market sucks.
iOS truly has that market (pun intended) cornered. Once jail broken, I'm close to enjoying my iPad as a daily driver.
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i will agree with you that apples market is a bit better than androids but i also believe that it makes a difference when you have developers paying money to develop apps and with android you have a lot more ... open source. I believe another huge difference is that everyones iphones are the same all of our android devices are different it must be a little harder to code for that. BTW i am not a programmer just an aspiring network admin so i hate writing code
any who i like the new market the old themed markets Never seemed to look right or all that cool so this is nice that they refreshed it so much.
Installed and I like it better than the current market. Thanks for this
If you can play rented movies via hdmi on tv, #win
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i will agree with you that apples market is a bit better than androids but i also believe that it makes a difference when you have developers paying money to develop apps and with android you have a lot more ... open source. I believe another huge difference is that everyones iphones are the same all of our android devices are different it must be a little harder to code for that. BTW i am not a programmer just an aspiring network admin so i hate writing code
any who i like the new market the old themed markets Never seemed to look right or all that cool so this is nice that they refreshed it so much.
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I agree, it just sucks. I got a smoking deal on an iPad or I would never know. My android tablet has so many fewer choices on tab specific apps. And the phone apps I see...no comparison. I really, really want android to catch up.
Just upgraded ... This market it's really nice, easier to navigate...
I honestly think it looks damn amazing
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Petition A protest against Huawei/EMUI's old school Multitasking/recent app menu

many of us have had enough, let's face it the old school kitkat style of Huawei's multitasking/recent apps is a joke and destroy the whole workflow and multitasking of the device
My Plan is to collect as many names as possible and I will send it to Huawei.
What makes me angry is that even Huawei 8 seem to have the same multitasking look.
Vote in the poll and write in the thread what you voted.
THIS is what multitasking on android SHOULD look like.
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THIS is not what multitasking should look like on android.
Best if option available to choose between either style
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well ill just use nova launcher anyways....
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jbmc83 said:
well ill just use nova launcher anyways....
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How does a diffrent launcher help it help nothing at all!
the multitask/recent app button will still lead to the same EMUI based multi task page which looks terrible.
Bad overview and slow, force you to swipe thru pages inastead of see all open tabs in one page in an overview.
blackinfinity said:
How does a diffrent launcher help it help nothing at all!
the multitask/recent app button will still lead to the same EMUI based multi task page which looks terrible.
Bad overview and slow, force you to swipe thru pages inastead of see all open tabs in one page in an overview.
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boo woo GET OVER IT barely anyone cares
qjsmartphone said:
boo woo GET OVER IT barely anyone cares
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Well on the Mate 7 forum 78% does not like the EMUI recent apps multitasking.
Well the sad part is there is no easy way to get rid of this EMUI multitasking, a different launcher will not help, if you go thru great pain to root the device and modify the software a lot you can get rid of it, but it is not easy. If it was possible to change with laucnher it wold be no problem, unless you root no matter what you do if you push the multitask/recent apps button it will lead to the EMUI recent app pages, which is usless, the main reason for that it lacks of "overview, only "4 taps" are visible, while with android vanilla way you can over 20 tabs or more visible in just an overview, which is very superior, also it goes a lot faster to swipe thru all tabs, while in the EMUI you have to swipe thru packages, this is typical "chinese brainless" software design. That it looks almost the same for the Mate 8 does make me very angry, this is a dealkiller for me, multi tasking is important, I used the LG G3 for 3 months during my Mate 7 was on repair I did really like the standard recent app tabs, it is so superior so much faster and flexible, I have no idea why the chinese do not see this, there is no benifit at all with EMUI's recent apps functionality, it is also to slow and responsive to be useful. it should be fast and snappy as it was on ,y LG G3. Shame on you Huawei...I hope you are reading this.
blackinfinity said:
it should be fast and snappy as it was on ,y LG G3. Shame on you Huawei...I hope you are reading this.
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Lol, they can't read English. The screen for EMUI 4.0 now displays the windows horizontally.
I'm applying for an unlock key as of now.
Multitasking on android 6.0/emui 4.0

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