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[news] SAMSUNG Nabs Tegra 2 - Galaxy Tab 2!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/19/samsung-nabs-tegra-2-for-galaxy-tab-2-google-makes-tegra-the-ho/
"It sounds like all of NVIDIA's wrangling and cajoling finally paid off, if a couple of analysts are to be believed -- both say the company's dual-core Tegra 2 chipset is racking up wins in the tablet space. We've seen it seemingly raise the bar for smartphone silicon in the LG Star and tease us in slate after slate, but Citigroup's Glen Yeung says that Samsung has "placed a sizeable order with Nvidia for Tegra 2 chips in the first half of 2011, geared for both tablets and smartphones," and BMO Capital Markets analyst Ambrish Srivastava anticipates the next Galaxy Tab will be one of the devices that use it. If that sounds obvious, remember that Samsung was supposed to be producing a dual-core chip of its own. What could cause companies to embrace Tegra 2, if that's indeed what's happening? Any number of reasons, to be sure, but Glen Yeung also says that Google has made Tegra the reference design for Honeycomb, aka Android 3.0, and so Tegra 2 may sound like a fast track to victory in the budding tablet space. Here's hoping it's a good choice for consumers, too."
I guess i'll be selling my Galaxy Tab soon enough. Ive seen the Tegra 2 at work, its REMARKABLE! The low power consumption and amazing power, makes flash videos play SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH!!

as long as it still have phone capabilities, i might upgrade
but i'm not sure its gonna be launched soon enough
as for having gadget these days, it wont last for long, so jumping from gadget to gadget is our destiny

LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2. Unless you want Tab 2 to be such piece of crap as Viewsonic G-tablet.
My bet is they are hyping nVidia stock because they need to unload it.

Technomancer said:
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2.
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Except that the Hummingbird wasn't internally developed.
It was designed by Intrinsity on behalf of Samsung, who also manufacture it. The same Intrinsity who Apple purchased and subsequently released their A4 chip which is exceeding similar to the Hummingbird.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Intrinsity is a closed Apple-only shop now.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Except that the Hummingbird wasn't internally developed.
It was designed by Intrinsity on behalf of Samsung, who also manufacture it. The same Intrinsity who Apple purchased and subsequently released their A4 chip which is exceeding similar to the Hummingbird.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Intrinsity is a closed Apple-only shop now.
Regards,
Dave
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I don't think so, dual core Samsung Orion Cortex A9 with Mali GPU is quite alive and kicking http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-orion-tablet-gets-previewed-ahead-of-presumed-2011-debut-19115073/
Both Apple A4 and Samsung Hummingbird are based on the same ARM and Imagination Technologies IP and they share the same layout but. Intrinsity did their own tweaks to the design (which Apple owns now) but Samsung is still doing their own development.

Technomancer said:
LOL analysts.
Somehow I dont see Samsung dropping use of their internally developed mobile chipsets and using Tegra 2. Unless you want Tab 2 to be such piece of crap as Viewsonic G-tablet.
My bet is they are hyping nVidia stock because they need to unload it.
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The Tegra 2 processor kicks butt! I've owned the Viewsonic G-Tablet, only things wrong with it is: SOFTWARE/LCD DISPLAY, other than that, the hardware is "ballin" The Tegra 2 at least from what i Felt between the Galaxy Tab and G-Tablet... felt A LOT Smoother, Flash Videos on the G-Tablet due to the Tegra 2 was astonishing, and smooth as heck. The battery life was literally about 10-12 hrs. The thing would last me more then a weekend.
Flash videos on the Galaxy tab are iffy at times.
In the end of the day due to be not being able to stand the LCD on the Viewsonic Gtablet, and the need for a smaller portable tablet, I returned the Viewsonic G-Tablet for a Galaxy Tab.
Don't get me wrong, IM IN LOVE WITH THE QUALITY of the Samsung Galaxy Tablet, I love everything about it ...........exxxxxcept the processor and battery life.
Dual Core processors seems that it will be the standard now.

mmathai77 said:
The Tegra 2 processor kicks butt! I've owned the Viewsonic G-Tablet, only things wrong with it is: SOFTWARE/LCD DISPLAY, other than that, the hardware is "ballin" The Tegra 2 at least from what i Felt between the Galaxy Tab and G-Tablet... felt A LOT Smoother, Flash Videos on the G-Tablet due to the Tegra 2 was astonishing, and smooth as heck. The battery life was literally about 10-12 hrs. The thing would last me more then a weekend.
Flash videos on the Galaxy tab are iffy at times.
In the end of the day due to be not being able to stand the LCD on the Viewsonic Gtablet, and the need for a smaller portable tablet, I returned the Viewsonic G-Tablet for a Galaxy Tab.
Don't get me wrong, IM IN LOVE WITH THE QUALITY of the Samsung Galaxy Tablet, I love everything about it ...........exxxxxcept the processor and battery life.
Dual Core processors seems that it will be the standard now.
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+1 Same experience here. The Tegra 2 on the G Tablet just plain smokes. Unfortunately the screen is sooo bad that a lot of us returned it.
Viewsonic G Tab = Taking an Audi Spider to a fast food burger joint.
Samsung Galaxy Tab = Taking a BMW 3 series to Ruth's Cris.
You get there a lot faster on the G Tab but the destination is MUCH nicer on the Galaxy Tab.

I don't know what G-Tablets you used but the one I played with was terrible slow **** until it was hacked with some unofficial update. So what is the manufacturing problem that caused it to be pulled from Staples, they installed too much suck on it? http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/18/viewsonic-g-tablet-pulled-from-staples-stores-manufacturing-de/

Oh man. Off the shelf that device may be the worst electronic gadget released, compared to other modern devices. It is truly night and day after you change the ROM.
If you played with one in a store it isn't the same. I still can't believe a company known for their displays released something like that.
I may pick one up during the first of the year once the returns start flying in after Christmas and the price falls through the floor. It seems to have a lot of developer support.

well, better display = poor battery life
indeed, in 2011, i think its gonna be dual core everywhere
same old, same old
unless they start producing app that needs 2 core to run, i'll stick to my tab
but quoting from someone somewhere in forum who said, that he used toshiba folio with tegra 2 and the performance is about the same, i really doubt that its all about the processor
i'm no techie, but can better display reduce performance?
like in windows generally, to reduce lag and increase performance, any animation, or softer edge, or anything that resulting in better display is advisely disabled

Galaxy Tab 1 or 2?
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......

shibed said:
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
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CES is about a week away, plenty of tablets to be displayed there...

shibed said:
So now that I hear there may be a new Galaxy Tab coming out by mid 2011 I am wondering if I should invest in a Galaxy Tab right now. I wonder if we will be able to upgrade to Gingerbread on the current tab......
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I bought mine the day they came out on Tmo and haven't looked back. You can always look for the next great thing, but then you lose the enjoyment of using the device in the meantime. Will I probably upgrade to the Tab 2 when it comes out - you bet. But for now I am loving my current generation Tab.

exactly. we're at a time now that technology is constantly advancing. It looks like, almost every 2 months we hear of something new, something better, something faster, etc.
if you constantly wait for the next big thing, you'll be waiting till you die.
But do whatever you see fit. =]

Galaxy tab 10.1 vs EEE prime vs IPAD2

Just found out i am going to get lucky this year and get a tablet for xmas.
one of my options are the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
what i would like to do is get some input from people who already have them. Would you stick with the 10.1, Go with the EEE transformer prime when it comes out on Dec. 19th, or go with an IPAD2?
i have the Galaxy S phone, and i'm loving it, i have the superclean Gingerbread on it, and it just works. My gut is saying i should just go with the EEE prime, but if a lot of you would never part with your galaxy tab 10.1 because it is higher quality over the EEE, i might get that instead. do you have any issues with the 10.1? if so what are they?
thanks for any help you may give to help me make a decision.

if you love your phone get a android tablet. that knocks out the ipad2(which is good because apple sucks and you want control over your device)
the tab is a great tablet but if you have a choice in free tablets for xmas get the new prime. that tablet is like the next generation of tablets.

If you're going to get an Android tablet this year, get the Prime. It's the first second-gen tablet that's been released and is significantly more powerful than the G-Tab. So far, the shortcomings of it are: 1) QC issues which also effected the first Transformer, 2) Wi-Fi only supports 2.4GHz, and 3) the speakers are mono and on one side of the device. Good luck trying to get one. The pre-order process turned in to a cluster f- and all the major retailers are now saying at least after X-Mas and most likely in January. Read the posts in the Prime forum.
As for iOS vs. Android, that's a personal decision. Apple's dropped the price of refurbs and you can pick up a 32GB for $499. New casing, new battery, same one year warranty.

Yeah, after looking at some of the threads in the prime forum, looks like the galaxy tab 10.1 is my only choice if i'm going to get it for xmas.
damn, was really looking forward to getting the prime.
just a quick question, is samsung, or the dev's working on porting ICS to the 10.1?
thanks

eppo12- said:
Yeah, after looking at some of the threads in the prime forum, looks like the galaxy tab 10.1 is my only choice if i'm going to get it for xmas.
damn, was really looking forward to getting the prime.
just a quick question, is samsung, or the dev's working on porting ICS to the 10.1?
thanks
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Both. Samsung's announced ICS officially in Q1 and the devs, including CM, are working on a build. The Tab's got to represent Samsung until March or April when a next-gen is released so it wouldn't surprise me if it's one of the first tablets to get ICS in order to extend its selling life. And since Samsung was Google's launch partner for ICS with the GN they're way ahead of everyone else when it comes to working with the OS.
Don't be disappointed in getting a Tab. It's got the best display by far, great build quality, and Samsung's always the best when it comes to audio and video codecs. If you look at benchmarks the Tab outperformed all other Teg2 based tablets. I don't know where you source your music but the Tab is the only one that supports Rhapsody's DRM via MTP. With a subscription, you can download thousands of songs to play locally when you're not connected to Wi-Fi. And check out Plex and PlayOn for streaming.
P.S. - Get it at Costco. They have a 90 day return policy so if something better comes along you can always return it.

"the speakers are mono and on one side of the device"
WTF lol, your kidding right?
I love my 10.1... I sometimes get lost just looking how pretty stuff looks on that screen... Just perfect.
Running stock 3.2 (Grabbed from here) and rooted, that's it. No fancy custom roms or kernel.
There is one thing you DO need and that's the touchscreentune app from the market and that needs root (WHich is pretty easy to do). It will cost you 5 bucks but it will make a world of difference for your tablet. Samsung, for reasons unknown, decided that you must have around 1 second "lag" before the touchscreen respond to your touch. With this app and it's default setting, it will react instantly and just makes the tablet feel so much better.
Ohh yeah, and the 10.1 has stereo speakers which do a pretty decent job, if you ask me. Great for youtube and the odd tv show.
Don't own any apple products, but if you like slow and smooth UI animations, I would go with that, since people complain that they don't have to wait half a second for a "smooth" animation for finish on Android.
My wife has a iPhone 4, I tried sending a picture on it, by Email. I picked the picture, then I had to wait for it to be "smoothly" animated into my email... Instead of just putting it my email and let's get to the sending part. If you fancy that sort of thing, get the iPad.

I would get an ipad2, I would almost rather have my load 1 than the galaxy tab I sold the ipad to buy.
The ipad just works, it has better accessories, better games and a hell of a lot less lag. I also didn't have to root it, flash custom roms and mods to make me satisfied with how it worked.
Sure it doesn't have flash but it seems like android can't play any flash videos that smoothly anyways, but different strokes for different folks.
I love my Samsung vibrant for its customizability but I believe ios is better for tablets.
Oh and I have not yet used or heard much about the transformer prime but it seems better spec'd

streetrider nick said:
I would get an ipad2, I would almost rather have my load 1 than the galaxy tab I sold the ipad to buy.
The ipad just works, it has better accessories, better games and a hell of a lot less lag. I also didn't have to root it, flash custom roms and mods to make me satisfied with how it worked.
Sure it doesn't have flash but it seems like android can't play any flash videos that smoothly anyways, but different strokes for different folks.
I love my Samsung vibrant for its customizability but I believe ios is better for tablets.
Oh and I have not yet used or heard much about the transformer prime but it seems better spec'd
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I am the exact opposite ...... I sold my iPad2 on craigslist and bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1..
IMHO the iPad is overrated and is very limited..... iPad's are for people who want simplistic and ease of use .... Android and the Tab is for people who want options.... I quickly grew very tired and bored with the rather bland iPad and iOS....
You description / understanding of rooting is different from mine.. I don't look at it as a need to do thing, I look at it as a way to improve my user experience... Perhaps I am doing something wrong with my Tab because I never had any lag issues on my Tab... And I believe 3.2 solved the perceived lag issues... I am on Task's 8.0 ROM and it ROCKS!
A jailbroken iPad2 still has less customization options than a stock un-rooted Tab... Root the Tab and bam! Customization galore..... Every iPad out there looks exactly the same.. Bland and dry.... Other than different wallpapers, every iPad looks exactly the same...
To boot, 512MB RAM... Really?????? It is 2011 is it not?
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I love android, I love my s2. I loved my galaxy tab p1000. However 10.1 and Xoom suck because of a very very slow os despite upgrade to 3.2. Ipad2 is super fast. I prefer android with gingerbread and will buy a ics tablet but honeycomb is too slow.

This thread is funny... iPad faster? Perhaps a split second but the trade off is a very very limited OS...I will take Android and the blink of an eye slower (not even noticeable to me) for my widgets and customization options...
#funny

Nope. I have used Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with HC 3.2 And the Ipad 2 is several times as fast and several times smoother. Whether it is just scrolling through apps or browsing on the internet.
IMO for a person who is used to Gingerbread on a S2 or Ipad/2/Ios, HC is not usable on a Dual Core. It is like running Windows 7 on a Pentium 3 1GHz.
ICS will probably be different and will probably be faster or as fast as GC.
So I would recommend buying an Ipad 2 right now and upgrading to ICS in a few months!

I've been drinking the Apple Kool-Aid since 1985 with the FatMac 512K. I'm an old geek in the IT world, and have owned more computers than many young 'uns have ever touched.
I've never paid full price for any computer, other than Macintoshes, however. And, for the most part, the quality and integration has been worth the premium.
However, I have several friends with iPads, and though they make nice remote controls for the AppleTV, and good book readers, IMHO there is no justification for the ridiculous prices that they command.
I feel that the Galaxy Tab with Task's ROM version 8 is the iPad's equal in usability, its superior in customizability, and kills it in value per dollar.
The display is a higher resolution, finer dot pitch, in 16:10 for movies (closer than the iPad's 4:3), etc. i typically love Apple's products, and can see the added value. However, I'd never pay more than $300 for an iPad. And I have no buyer's remorse at the $325 for my Galaxy Tab. Plus another $10 to Task650 in thanks.

aaksheytalwar said:
Nope. I have used Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with HC 3.2 And the Ipad 2 is several times as fast and several times smoother. Whether it is just scrolling through apps or browsing on the internet
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You must have used a magical iPad and a defective Tab.... While I agree the iPad is a tad faster and smoother, I would not exaggerate the difference at the cost of credibility......
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Galaxy Tab 7.7 on the way

Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/

GaresTaylan said:
Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?

Action B said:
Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
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Pretty sure it's a dual-core 1.4ghz xynos.
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...

chrisrotolo said:
7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV

skeeterpro said:
Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!

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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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You're right, thanks! I forgot about the battery.
Quite right that there's always "something better" just around the corner. If one were to wait for the next best thing, one would never get anything I suspect. As long as whatever you gets does what you want, it's all good.
It's can be a crap-shoot on community support. Samsung devices have the reputation for quality hence usually a good following. That said, I believe that people who gravitate to forums like this tend to be more tech-centric than the majority of tab users. I do wonder though as I read several articles (trades and users) praising the 7+ but somewhat negative mentions about the price. I am curious just how high Android tabs will be able to fetch. Granted, it's my belief that even the $499 iPad is over priced by at least $100 but I wonder if the $400 price point might be the "sweet spot" for full-featured tabs regardless of size? I'm not a "gamer" so my power needs are modest.
This is my first Samsung tab and I am impressed. But so many screen size choices? Price and not so much screen size/features, I suspect, will drive many sales. Witness B&N and Amazon. I confess I am sure I'll be comparing at BB the 7.7 and other screens when it hits!

Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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charmartist said:
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Well we still don't know what the official prices are going to be, the sites that are offering pre-orders are pretty much just making up their own prices. I have heard however the official price in Australia will be $579 for the 16GB and $649 for the 32GB, and that's in AUD. Looking at the iPad 2 prices in AUD they are almost identical, and we don't know if these prices are for the WiFi or 3G/4G model, but I would suspect the 7.7 will be between $450-500 for the 16GB WiFi model in the US.

Can't wait to see it and compare it with my 7+. Size is my main concern, 7.7 is quite long and wider. If a device is too big, I cant really bring it out whenever I like. Not So useful and convenient like 7 inch tablet too. I once had a larger tablet and I almost left it everyday at my home, sold it at last. Anyway, 7.7 is worth waiting.
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Hi. Im new to this part of xda. And this is somewhat bothersome news as I just bought my plus today. First tablet in some time that made me think wow. I have an ipad now. Owned the Transformer and Dell Streak 5 and 7. I was going to wait until spring.g to see the new XOOM, ipad3, and TF Prime but decided after seeing this I thought this could last awhile before going down in price.
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I'm keeping my plus...
I don't think the upgrades from the 7.7 are worth it.
It will be really disappointing if we never get any good roms... But I'm mostly happy with root as it is.

Anyone who wants to sell The Galaxy Tab 7.7 can write me an PM! But I want it this year in Germany I would Pay 1000 Euros Cash!!!

I am very attracted to the 7.7 personally. Have an 8.9 that I'm planning on selling very soon. (Tegra 2 just plain sucks compared to Exynos frankly), and though it's a nice form factor, it's not for me. No phone calling ability is a big downer too; I like being able to swap my SIM card between my original Tab and phone depending on the situation.
Have the Note too, but not sure if I will keep it or not. Waiting to see what ICS will be like on it. Could be amazing, or could just be "meh." If it's not that much better, may sell my Note too and just stick to an SGS2/7.7 combo.
Then again, CES is right around the corner, so maybe it may be worth waiting longer still depending on what else may be coming out for 2012!
But oh that 7.7 sure looks nice... Damn, I'm such a consumer whore

My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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jollygoon said:
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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Do you have a non wifi version? I got my 7+ yesterday and cant find a dialer on it

I am pickinmg my 7.7 wifi up tomorrow from **** Smith in Australia - can't wait, been wanting a tablet for ages. I had originally ordered a Transformer Prime until Amazon canceled the order. But this is the tablet I really wanted.

I don't know. I mean, I was planing to get the 7+ near the end of this month. I know that the screen and whatnot is better or the 7.7, but I seriously don't know if I would like the better screen or use the maybe bit more charge from it having a bigger battery to spend $200 more then what I was planing on spending.

I'm afraid that 7.7 might still have the Black stains/blotches on the screen, just like in S II. When viewing on dark room.

So no specific release date or price? If its not much more in price than the 7 plus and coming out fairly soon id like to return mine and wait for the 7.7

Does a 7.7 make sense when a flood of new Tegra3 tablets will be out very soon?

Firstly, I know there is always "something new around the corner"... however i've been in the tech game a long time and as such I generally know how to read the ebbs and tides of generation technology pretty well when making new purchases. For me, if the current generation has been out for a year or so, and a new generation of technology is within a couple months away, then I will usually hold off buying until the new tech arrives. To me, it doesn't make sense buying something tagged as a premium piece of technology, that I know through staying as well-informed as I can be, will be superceded within such a short time.
However, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is posing something of a dilemma in this regard.
In the favour of Tegra3, it is faster in gaming and general usage than the Exynos, to varying degrees based on what you are using it for (ie: while for general usage like 2D and browsing not so much and probably not nooticeable, for 3D-intensive gaming there will be quite a big difference). While the performance increases overall may not be absolutely stellar, for example the Exynos is still a beast and will play high bit-rate 1080p content smoothly, they are still there, and the Tegra3 will likely also usher in a new generation of games and graphical content. It will also come with ICS as standard.
In the favour of the Samsung 7.7 and Exynos, as I said it WILL play high bitrate HD content smoothly, and has the Super AMOLED+ screen, which is 100% unique in the tablet market as opposed to everyone elses mainstream IPS tech. However, it also seems to still have some issues resulting in burn-in and some quality defects which are common to SAMOLED+ technology, but I guess more noticeable in this size range. It also ships with Honeycomb, which is a little disappointing at this stage.
My dilemma is, with the new generation of Tegra 3-based ICS tablets due within the next couple of months, and possibly the new Exynos chipset due shortly after that, does it still make sense to buy the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 at this point? If I had been facing this decision 4 months ago then the answer would have been an unequivolcal and resounding HELL YES, however with the heavy delay this tablet was subjected to it is now facing big competition from very well-specified and featured tablets, due within the next 2 months, that are also in many cases going to fall well under the price range that this tablet has been placed in.
So, do you think that objectively speaking, and without bias, that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 with it's unique (if not unproblematic) Super AMOLED+ screen and first-generation Exynos chipset still represents a worthy purchase at this stage in the game and at the price-point it has been set at?
Thoughts?

The delay certainly makes the decision difficult at this point, I really love the 7.7 but I think if you can wait the ASUS 7inch model for $250 with a Tegra III inside is the better bet (or as you say one of the updated Exynos tabs).
Interestingly the Mali doesn't seem that far adrift of the Tegra III GPU on ICS, at least as far as benchmarks can tell us. On my Note for example I get 44fps in Nenamark 2, and my Prime gets 45. So as far as the Tegra III being superior I don't know how much the difference really is, and whether it'll actually make a lot of difference to the end user for most purposes.

Got mine for £420 from Hong Kong (16GB with 3g) after a similar bout of agonising and I'm extremely happy with it. Even if newer models come out in the next couple of months tests have shown that the quad core chips don't make a huge difference for most apps because they haven't been written to take advantage of them. The 7.7 is gorgeous now. It's plenty fast enough with great build quality, a fantastic screen, good battery life, fits into my jacket pocket and is so light I have to keep checking that it's still there.
If HD gaming is your thing then it might be worth waiting as games will be the first apps to take advantage of the extra speed. I decided to take the plunge now and upgrade in a year when the apps have caught up with the hardware.
Compared to my original galaxy tab this is a whole different ball game.
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Ok welllllll... I just kind of went out and bought one (3G version). Setting it up now, screen looks awesome so far... but will see how things go over the next hour or two.

Welcome to the club
it all boils down to personal preferences, I bought my SGT P1000 before when the release for 7.7 got postponed (thanks Apple!) I was eyeing for the 7.7 back then. but now that it's out, I grab one amidst the negative feedback on the screen, I'm currently enjoying it and the defects is not noticeable under the way I use it. so far so good.
well, those tegra II's or quadcores will be rendered obsolete as well several months after its release. so it's better to settle on a device that will suit your needs. no need to upgrade all the time just to cope up. Remember that honeycomb and ICS are already there, still, most of the apps are only compatible with the old gingerbread.

I have just ordered a 7.7 and also thought about waiting for this year's crop of new tablets. However, the 7.7 has a very fast processor with plenty of storage, an excellent screen, soon to get ICS and does all the things I want very well.
In the short term it is unlikely to be out-performed significantly and when it is, perhaps in a year or two's time then that is the time to upgrade.

Got my first tab and i am loving it! rather than keep waiting, might as well get 1 and play now!
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ThE_SoUrCe said:
Welcome to the club
it all boils down to personal preferences, I bought my SGT P1000 before when the release for 7.7 got postponed (thanks Apple!) I was eyeing for the 7.7 back then. but now that it's out, I grab one amidst the negative feedback on the screen, I'm currently enjoying it and the defects is not noticeable under the way I use it. so far so good.
well, those tegra II's or quadcores will be rendered obsolete as well several months after its release. so it's better to settle on a device that will suit your needs. no need to upgrade all the time just to cope up. Remember that honeycomb and ICS are already there, still, most of the apps are only compatible with the old gingerbread.
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Don't forget Android 5.0 Jelly Bean, to be released and compete with Windows 8...

The Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 is the best 7 range tablet period. It has 3g talk/text function so its its not just a tablet. If the functionality is what you want and not just wifi..then 7.7 is best of the best. I am loving the 7.7 !!!
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I was in the same boat - waiting around to see how the market was moving. I ended up buying the 7.7. Great well-built device which currently will take a lot of beating. If only it would play the tegra THD games!

sladeywadey said:
I was in the same boat - waiting around to see how the market was moving. I ended up buying the 7.7. Great well-built device which currently will take a lot of beating. If only it would play the tegra THD games!
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That's what Root and Chainfire 3D are for!

a true merger indeed, I don't have to carry two, or three devices literally, I love my tab, it's like taking my laptop with me everywhere I go, I can call whenever I want and receive SMS as well, that's the main selling point for me to grab Samsung made tablets, next is the 3g browsing (we have a promo in our country wherein Facebook is free on my service provider ). Haven't tried the USB On-the-Go yet, still need to find a blueprint so I can make my own adapter
Camera? not that great in the sea of 8MP+ snappers but not that bad either, serves t's purpose well
Video call via Skype ~ flawless!!
Gaming? Bought and Installed Modern Combat III, Superb!! smooth as silk!
lastly, the SAMOLED+ screen! Love it, I just love it.. !
the only thing I hate about this is that I can't stop using it! lol

I love my 7.7, best tablet on the market in my opinion!
I have rooted and installed Chainfire 3D so gaming is outstanding!!!!!!
Suits all of my needs and with ICS coming soon it will be hard to beat.
My 2 cents worth
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What games are you running that take advantage of Chainfire3D?
xmam123 said:
I love my 7.7, best tablet on the market in my opinion!
I have rooted and installed Chainfire 3D so gaming is outstanding!!!!!!
Suits all of my needs and with ICS coming soon it will be hard to beat.
My 2 cents worth
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That's what Root and Chainfire 3D are for!
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yeah I have Chainfire3d on mine - still won't run the Zen pinball and other games. I'm interested to hear from other users that are running the tegra games as to which ones in case I'm doing something wrong.

Forget Tegra 3. Did you see the specs on the Snapdragon S4? Now that looks like a game changer.
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what change? any link? i once read that s4 will use adreno 225, which is not that good and only comparable up to exynos' mali (which is the same with tab 7.7)
tegra 3 is still better
unless like the article said it came with adreno 300 that supposedly on par with playstation 3 / xbox
here's a quote on the wrap up
"So, until we see all that, you’d probably want to go with an Exynos 4212 chip or an OMAP 4470 if you care about gaming a lot–or a Qualcomm S4 if you don’t care about maximum gaming performance as much but still want little power consumption and strong single-threaded performance in a smartphone."
the link to the article:
http://www.androidauthority.com/qua...vs-ti-omap-4470-vs-samsung-exynos-4212-26636/
don't know how accurate is this information though

Taking Back And Waiting A Month.

Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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HotInEER said:
Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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how much is it?
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JuLes' MostWanted said:
how much is it?
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$399
10 char

ezcats said:
$399
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wtf??? 399.
worth a trade lmfao
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HotInEER said:
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.

wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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That's what I'm waiting for. I love my 3G Tab and the only thing that (for me) needs improvement is a more powerful processor. For taking notes and such at work the S-Pen's also a cool and practical feature. It's been delayed until June so Samsung can put a new quad-core Exynos SoC in and I'm hoping they bump up the display resolution while they're at it.

I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?

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I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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You can pre-order both the Acer A510 and new non-Prime Transformer (TF300) that has a plastic back cover and shouldn't have wireless issues. They're $449 and $399 respectively with the Acer being the more upscale of the two. Asus' build quality and QC have been sketchy and I haven't really followed Acer to offer any opinion. Costco's got some good deals on the G-Tab 1 and a ninety day return policy which should fall in to the launch timeframe for the Note.

Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.

When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.

MMcCraryNJ said:
Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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Sadly, I think you are right. I will have to be patient and wait and see what happens next. I guess with Google IO coming up soon the emphasis will be completely on JellyBean and ICS will be obsolete already by the time summer comes around.

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When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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The original Tab 10.1 is getting ICS. Samsung have confirmed it at several different points in time. WHEN will we get it, that's another story, but it's coming. It's being worked on. They even said that it was number 2 on the their priority list, right behind the GS II which has already started it's ICS rollout globally. It can't be that far away
So if you factor out ICS as an advantage (which you should), the only two things the Tab 2 has over the Tab 1 are the modified speaker positions and debatably the microSD storage (I say that because the storage sizes are halved on the Tab 2). Everything else that's different on the Tab 2 is a disadvantage.
Sorry to say, but it's the truth. And that 399 price point doesn't make it any easier to swallow, especially when you consider that if you can be patient for another couple of months, you'll have a huge selection of Tegra 3 tablets at all different sizes, all different price points, made by different companies.
Believe me, I'm not hating here. I got my Tab 10.1 last July and I absolutely love it. But right now, if 300 or 400 is my sweet spot for a tablet, I'm holding off for a couple of months. The Tab 2 isn't worth that.

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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH...wow!!! effing samsung..
screw this..selling it and getting the asus prime

I would also hold off for the note 10.1... Better hardware AND the s-pen will give it functionality that no other tab has. I have tried the regular note (5.3) and the pen works very well, very cool to jot down stuff quickly or to add comments/notes to documents.

Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I bet they are having problems they will have a even bigger one if they don't get there arses into first gear people will migrate to other tablets.This is just another sorry excuse to buy some more time which they dont have and now where does this leave those of us waiting for ic4.0 to come to 10.1 user?

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Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.

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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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Probably. That's why I took mine back.
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I'm keeping my 10.1 4G, which it bought used for less than $300. I'll probably still get the GT 2 7.0 for $250 though, since it's wifi only.