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Word to the wise(scratch subject)

Well..like everything else I own...it was bound to get some imperfection within a short amount of time in possession. But lemme make myself clearer...I dropped my phone on the pavement and therefore I now have a scratched screen. While we all know metal can't scratch glass..pavement and diamond rings apparently still apply. But this isn't to simply warn all of you of the obvious fact that screen protectors are very handy on any device, but its to inform that no method found on he internet will cure scratches on the glass. From toothpaste to Brasso(which makes it worse actually). Nothing works..and therefore you are doomed to the scratches! Not sure what half he people on the internet are raving about on half the remedies for scratches in glass, but that's all it is, is hype. So learn from me either live with the scratches, buy protectors while you can...or end up forking over the money for a new screen eventually.

Bummer...not even sure if a screen protector would have survived concrete. But a good case would have...

Metal can't scratch glass? Is this something new for 2010.

indiearmy said:
Metal can't scratch glass? Is this something new for 2010.
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Sorry lol..Was typing it on my phone while watching Reno 911...I meant to say "metal can't scratch gorilla glass as easily".
Otherwise...I guess I'll try and wait out the arrival of HTC bravo or Supersonic...if either come to the US with a sim card carrier, and just give this nexus one to my GF. She claims I'm just being paranoid over something small so I guess she won't mind taking over ownership should a better phone come out.

fykick said:
Sorry lol..Was typing it on my phone while watching Reno 911...I meant to say "metal can't scratch gorilla glass as easily".
Otherwise...I guess I'll try and wait out the arrival of HTC bravo or Supersonic...if either come to the US with a sim card carrier, and just give this nexus one to my GF. She claims I'm just being paranoid over something small so I guess she won't mind taking over ownership should a better phone come out.
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Your completely giving up on the phone because a simple scratch on the screen, and instead you will wait for the Bravo a phone uglier than the concept model? This scratch must be very, very, bothersome.
I do get heavily irritated over small things such as this, but I would never buy an entire new phone over it. If its noticeable when the phone is on, then maybe yea..

fykick said:
Well..like everything else I own...it was bound to get some imperfection within a short amount of time in possession. But lemme make myself clearer...I dropped my phone on the pavement and therefore I now have a scratched screen. While we all know metal can't scratch glass..pavement and diamond rings apparently still apply. But this isn't to simply warn all of you of the obvious fact that screen protectors are very handy on any device, but its to inform that no method found on he internet will cure scratches on the glass. From toothpaste to Brasso(which makes it worse actually). Nothing works..and therefore you are doomed to the scratches! Not sure what half he people on the internet are raving about on half the remedies for scratches in glass, but that's all it is, is hype. So learn from me either live with the scratches, buy protectors while you can...or end up forking over the money for a new screen eventually.
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Have you priced out a new screen, by any chance?

All I keep reading is currently a repair for things like screens run 250 from HTC and maybe 75 to 150 from some place in Texas.
As for giving up on the nexus, I didn't mean give up on the nexus...just give it away when they come out with something newer should the specs not be lacking in the hardware section. The all black of the bravo, or even red/black of the supersonic are more my style anyways. But if their specs are worse, ill stick with the nexus.

Luckily I keep the stock case on...
because it seems I forget it is in my lap and I get out of the car, and so far I've dropped it about 5 times on the pavement and it is still beautiful!

Haha..you're totally right the stock case was doing me a great justice but I had gotten out of the car texting and sat my case down in the passenger seat and on the way back and at the edge of the pavement and grass it fell out of my hand lol ... and skipped around a a bit and resulted in one scratch/etch you can see while the phone is on and about 3 more while its off. Even the edges of whatever material the phone is made of has an etch in it. All these are very small seperately but all together are very distracting. I hope eventually I can get the screen repaired for under a hundred. Then I'd buy a protector and be happy with my nexus. But right now the prices to repair them are more than I originally paid for the phone. An I'd rather not pay more than a hundred for screen repair.

galaxys said:
Bummer...not even sure if a screen protector would have survived concrete. But a good case would have...
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The right screen protector, such as the invisibleSHIELD or Clear Protector, would have prevented this.. I only say this cuz of personal experience..

Ssantos6981 said:
because it seems I forget it is in my lap and I get out of the car, and so far I've dropped it about 5 times on the pavement and it is still beautiful!
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Christ... are you kidding?!
Mine goes in the passenger seat with a seatbelt firmly on and airbags fully deployed.
The wife gets shoved in the glove box

Some watch repairers have buffing machines to take scratches out of glass, you could try to find one of them.

I didn't even put the battery in my Nexus One until after I had put an Invisibleshield on it.

i highly recommend investing in a full phone protector.. i paid $35 and they wrapped my phone entirely in plastic screen protector material. Lifetime warranty on the stuff too.
If it ever gets scratched just bring it back and they replace it free.

[Q] gorilla glass

any news if focus will have gorilla glass like galaxy S phones?

Not from the review or spec sheets I have seen. The Dell does though, that does look a great phone.

Has Samsung put Gorilla Glass on the spec sheets for their Galaxy S phones? I wasn't under the impression that they did, and if not, I wouldn't be surprised if the WinMo7 phones from them DID have GG.

ant1pathy said:
Has Samsung put Gorilla Glass on the spec sheets for their Galaxy S phones? I wasn't under the impression that they did, and if not, I wouldn't be surprised if the WinMo7 phones from them DID have GG.
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Samsung did not reveal that info. it was corning that came out and told everyone that galaxy S has their product. I find it very strange that samsung does not mention it as a feature.

I think this might answer your question. Watch this at the 1 minute mark:
youtube.com/watch?v=x91cmj_dP_4&feature=related

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I think this might answer your question. Watch this at the 1 minute mark:
youtube.com/watch?v=x91cmj_dP_4&feature=related
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He doesn't come out and say Gorilla glass, but it has "a material" in the screen.

ryotgz said:
He doesn't come out and say Gorilla glass, but it has "a material" in the screen.
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Guess I don't care what it is or is called, if it doesn't need a screen protector! Everything I see about this device get's me more and more focused on it (sorry, couldn't resist the pun).

Samsung, for whatever reason, don't like to mention this, even for its Galaxy S phones. I have no doubt Focus comes with gorilla glass as well.

One can only assume the same applies to the Omnia 7.
Excellent news indeed!

I asked this question on the SGH-i917 Focus' support page on Samsung site. They have posted the question for viewing, but it hasn't been answered yet.

Maybe when I am tired of my omnia 7, I will perform a scratch test to comfirm

I was with a samsung rep today and was playing with the phone when this question was brought up. The rep said it does have a gorilla glass screen and so does the lg models and the htc models of the windows phone 7 devices.
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Why don't they advertise the feature as I presume it costs more for groilla glass?

I think they are worried that users will get careless and start asking for replacements when glass scratches or breaks.

Either that or maybe its a gorilla glass knock off.

Straight from Samsung Mobile US on twitter:
yes. the Samsung Focus does use Gorilla glass
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS/status/29699489561

Ren13B said:
Straight from Samsung Mobile US on twitter:
yes. the Samsung Focus does use Gorilla glass
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS/status/29699489561
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Good news

Same for the Omnia 7 one hopes?
I submitted a support ticket to Samsung asking about screen guards and wether the glass was scratchproof, they replied with a link to their (dead) dealer page and a link Phones4u :| They totally avoided answered the question.
So I submitted another ticket very clearly asking if the screen is toughened, scratchproof or any such thing.
No reply as yet. Seems they're not so keen to say for some reason.

I've had confirmation from Samsung that the Omnia 7 DOES have Gorilla Glass too

Wow, dropped my Omnia 7 for the third time, this time only about 4 feet off the ground, but it slid front face on the floor tiles..... and what do you know, its got scratches ><. One short one, and one long but really thin one. If this does have gorilla glass, well, I thought it'd be tougher than this...

[Q] Question About Fascinate Screen

Hi there, Fascinate people!
I have a Captivate on AT&T (a.k.a. the my-signal-runs-away-from-buildings carrier). One of my absolute favorite features of my phone--a feature I had believed was common to all Galaxy S models--is the seemingly indestructible Gorilla Glass screen. I've carried this phone naked in my pocket for months now and the screen is still perfect!
A friend of mine liked my Captivate so much that she purchased a Fascinate as her very first smartphone. She put a screen protector and a case on it (two safety mechanisms I've blatantly rejected in favor of the uberslim Captivate), but not two days after purchasing the phone, she had scratch marks in the glass, below the screen protector in the soft button area. Granted, she has probably been carrying the device in her purse, but nonetheless I was blown away by this! I inspected it further today, and it actually looks like the scratching may be below the surface of the glass.
So my question is this: wtf? Is the Fascinate screen wimpier than the rest of the Galaxy S line? Is it possible that dust entered the phone and scratched the surface below the glass surface? Is this the sort of thing she might get an exchange for? Has anybody else experienced this, especially so quickly after purchasing?
Thanks for all of your help!

Ask the someone who knows... Ask samsung... I have no idea.
This just sounds like you are blaming us for your friend's woes. I feel like giving you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Anyways, ask them or VZW.
I haven't had any issues that you mention.

I've dropped my phone and had it unprotected since I bought it and it still looks brand new. No idea what's up with your friends phone.
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The fascinate does have gorilla glass. It holds up to a lot of abuse: you can't scratch out with keys, etc.
I can't speak to scratches below the screen, never seen anything like that.
Gorilla glass can be scratched (especially by any form of sand, which is more common than you might expect), and it can shatter. This is discussed in the accessories thread.
You also have a few options if you want to keep your phone thin. Look into steinheil, real look etc.screen protectors, also discussed in accessories.
Sorry to hear about your friend's screen. Tender care and a soft clean pocket will get you pretty far, but the back cover especially will scratch up on you no matter how careful you are. Fortunately the back is cheap to replace.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.

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This just sounds like you are blaming us for your friend's woes. I feel like giving you the benefit of the doubt for now.
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I'm not sure how that would sound like blame, but I was really just asking if anybody had any similar experiences
mikey6p said:
I've dropped my phone and had it unprotected since I bought it and it still looks brand new. No idea what's up with your friends phone.
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Likewise - that's what made me question it.
soba49 said:
The fascinate does have gorilla glass. It holds up to a lot of abuse: you can't scratch out with keys, etc.
I can't speak to scratches below the screen, never seen anything like that.
Gorilla glass can be scratched (especially by any form of sand, which is more common than you might expect), and it can shatter. This is discussed in the accessories thread.
You also have a few options if you want to keep your phone thin. Look into steinheil, real look etc.screen protectors, also discussed in accessories.
Sorry to hear about your friend's screen. Tender care and a soft clean pocket will get you pretty far, but the back cover especially will scratch up on you no matter how careful you are. Fortunately the back is cheap to replace.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
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Right! This was the video demonstration I'd seen, so I was very confused! Sand makes perfect sense! She was near a beach for a few days immediately after getting the phone. Thanks!!

wphilly said:
I'm not sure how that would sound like blame, but I was really just asking if anybody had any similar experiences
Likewise - that's what made me question it.
Right! This was the video demonstration I'd seen, so I was very confused! Sand makes perfect sense! She was near a beach for a few days immediately after getting the phone. Thanks!!
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Jewelry is a common scratcher too.
I have a screen protector on my phone, just in case... its an invisible shield, so it covers the whole screen. I passed on the VZW ones because I figured it just covered only the screen, but the invisible shields do have an orange peel kinda look to them.

I have been carrying my fascinate since launch unprotected in my pocket, and my screen is still flawless! I just bought a protector from a local uscc store for the mesmerize that covers the whole screen yesterday! 3 in a pack for $14.95, they fit well (except for maybe 16th of an in. at the edges) and they cover the whole screen!

2 small scratches and 1 small scuff mark on my screen and i have been VERY careful with this phone. not that impressed with the glass. took me weeks to scratch the screen on my TP carrying it the same way i carry the SF. i need to pick up a protector just to prevent any more marks.

[Q] Gorilla glass?

Can anyone tell me how the tough the glass screen is? Is it gorilla glass? Do you have any scratches on yours?
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
I am looking at the LG Optimus 7 and the Samsung Omnia 7 (16GB version). I would buy an unbranded Sim free version. The O7 definitely has gorilla glass. I don't want to use a screen protector, but the last thing I want is to scratch the screen.

I'm not sure weather it has Gorilla Glass but it's a tough phone. Had it about 4 months now, dropped it several times, keep it in my pocket without a protector. No scratches at all (this includes the screen and the rest of the phone).
I've even dropped it on the dancefloor in clubs and it's been fine.

would love to share your experience.
my omnia 7 seems to scratch far more easily than my hd2 or hd7 ever did.
Scratches magically appear on the bloody thing

If the Phone has even one noticable scratch then it is much harder to sell it on. My iPhone 3G, HTC Desire and HTC HD7 were all pristine. Apple made a big deal about using harder glass from the first iPhone. The HTC Desire and HD7 both have gorilla glass. As do many others.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
To me build quality is vital. That means metal chassis and toughened glass, no creaks etc. The old Nokias ie 6310i were legendary for lasting for years, requiring no more than possibly a new battery
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One of the key reasons why Palm failed was because of low quality, cheap Pre build quality.

So it doesnt actually have Gorilla Glass
I agree with the pristine quality. Main reason i sold the HD7 because i didnt feel it was a solid product. It was laggin behind in performance to the omnia 7 as well as build quality. Hate creaks in nokia phones. I left them with N97 and HD7 had the creaks too so i left that too.

It was indirectly confirmed by a Samsung rep to have gorilla glass.

The Samsung Focus is confirmed to have Gorilla Glass
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
And MobileTechWorld says that the Omnia 7 does, but doesn't offer collaborative proof (but I guess the review has been told)
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/11/23/samsung-omnia-7-hardware-tour/

I emailed Corning a few weeks ago asking about this. They said that they cannot tell me due to privacy agreements with other companies and to ask my phone manufacturer.
I find it hard to believe Samsung would put it on the focus and not the omnia 7.

Freypal said:
I emailed Corning a few weeks ago asking about this. They said that they cannot tell me due to privacy agreements with other companies and to ask my phone manufacturer.
I find it hard to believe Samsung would put it on the focus and not the omnia 7.
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It is on the Omnia 7. Samsung is not able to provide an official statement since they have an agreement in place with Microsoft.
This agreement enforces the "differentiation" of the different phones that were released by the manufacturers for the wp7 launch. Each manufacturer is allowed to advertise a unique feature of their brand ie. LG DLNA.

I also think it is gorilla glass. I have mine from middle December and no scratches at all. (glass and aluminium back). I dropped it once or twice thought, so I'm very pleased with the build quality =P

Yeah. I've dropped mine a couple of times onto a marble floor and there's not so much as a scratch anywhere.
It's a superbly built phone.

Could do with a rubber coating. Would solve all the dropping.
The phone is as slippery as a fish

I like it the way it is. Slips easily in and out of my pocket. Having a rubberised/high tactile coating would just annoy me

Well it wrecks my head. Have to hold the phone really tight to make sure it doesnt fall out. A bit better now since i got a vynil skin.
But **** that. Never had that issue on HTC phones. They were always much comfier to hold in hand and always provided plenty of tacktile grip but not too much as you said to make it slip out of pockets easily

for me the only so so item of buld quality is the home button made o plastic and having e little of movement if touched.
other than that best Phone ever after iPhone 2G

Well I have a story to tell about my Omnia 7. I dropped it while coming down the stairs on the 4th floor. My heart stopped as I heard it bang along the sides of the walls and hit the ground floor. I went down. The cover, the battery cover, the battery and the phone were spread all over. The gorilla glass has cracks but it has not come off. The phone works as if nothing happened. Only the cracks remain. Its still fully functioning and this incident happened on the 1st week of February (Feb 8th to be precise). I will post pictures of where it fell from the phone itself if anyone is interested. btw, I forced the Nodo update on Saturday and updated successfully on first go. Its a T-mobile UK unlocked.
Its a superbly built phone. Haven't seen anything like it.

I've gotta echo many other people experience here.
I've dropped mine quite a few time, this weekend just gone actually on a dance floor, fell flat on its face hard enough for the batter cover and battery to shoot off.
BUT yet not a single scratch on the screen or casing.
Which is good because like someone said, its a very slippery phone.

Well, I haven't dropped mine, but it has small scratch, that can be seen when the screen is fully cleaned and watching it at light

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The phone is as slippery as a fish
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Couldn't have said it better!

I know is OT but has anybody of you have slightly loose home button that when you just touch it makes the sound of plastic hitting the glass?
I m talking 1/10 of mm here but I just ask
nevertheless have great feedback and response.
thanks.

Not buying SG2...

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>This OP was from a user that is currently deciding which new handset to upgrade/change too. And has been wanting this handset for a long time, but now is having second thoughts<
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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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to each its own. I couldnt stand my hd2 after having my galaxy s for a year. But it comes down to persoal preference. Im pretty sure theres some happy people enjoying there devices.

I agree. Nothing wrong with the phone, I just have a specific requirement to be able to use service manual pdf's on the move so i dont have to dig out the laptop.
Dont wanna troll. Just thought people who havent handled one yet maybe interested.
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Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.

lots of people aren't bothering with ascreen protector. they bring a good point that... anything that can scratch the gorilla glass will probably pass through any screen protector anyway. having said that... i'm getting one. i have one for my GS as well.
as for the GS II i just may not put it on yet

I like the shape of the sgs 2, very thin and light makes it ideal shape.

Yeah, we really needed to know this. Nobody is forcing you to buy anyone phone so if you don't like this one there is no need to run home, jump on the interwebz and make a thread on the forum about it.
I hope you like which ever phone you do get.

Pagnell said:
Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.
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Dropped my SGS multiple times on hard flooring, concrete and Asphalt and despite thinking one drop and it was a goner the thing doesn't have a scratch on the screen, body still looks new and works perfectly. I wonder if the SGS II is the same way but I will not be dropping it anytime soon to find out.

I love my Galaxy SII but it seems that you might be better off with a 7in tablet such as the Galaxy Tab or maybe a bigger tablet such as the Advent Vega or iPad.
I personally couldn't read PDFs on a screen smaller than 7in for very long.

This is good info for me. Nexus One owner and I sported an HD2 for a few weeks and loved the feel and size, knowing it had the dimensions of my next phone (G2x was a failure for me).
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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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OP must have small hands, and you know what they say!
Small hands...........
Small gloves...

yeh I know what your on about I went from iPhone 4 to gs2 and text is so hard to read with no reflow option, but I gain so much more with customization, and the weight is great, the iPhone feels like such a brick now.
in saying that I had a hd2 and really missed it after I got the iPhone, thought I could get that feeling back with the sgs2 but it's not the same hd2 is a quality product.
enjoy your sensation and thanks for being honest in the lions den lol

i do agree with the [OP] regarding the "ergonomic fail" thing.
..and this is coming from a Samsung phone fanatic like me
personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
unfortunately i love all the technology packed inside that "disgusting" shell so is either take it or leave it, and i choose to take it
so the ergonomic fail became a non issue for me, as i'll be replacing the case, and using with a protection case, and other accessories i always slap onto all of my phones; i praise the after market accessories people to make the impossible possible

AllGamer said:
personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
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Disgusting? Seriously? Dear me, it takes all sorts I guess and the world would be a boring place if we all had the same opinions.

IMO: I like very much the design, I can hold it in one hand and even type with one hand, it holds perfectly in my right hand... Even ergonomically I like it. It's simply perfect for me.
It's up to you to choose another phone. I would never choose another now. Especially HTC sensation which have many things less than Galaxy S2.

+10 I find the design very nice unlike some here
And I would never change it for nothing on the market that's just a piece of beauty, a very thin piece actually
What I don't understand is the point of this topic ? If you feel it not as you want anyone else could feel it in the hand differently like me. And many peeps have already said they like the feel in the hand in this thread so your opinion can't be taken for facts until someone interested in it hold it for real :/ anyway...

Pitching in on the ergonomics of the device being awesome, for me anyway. If you have really small hands then this will probably be a pretty bad phone for you, since it wont fit comfortably into a normal grip. That aside, for people with average or large hands, this design works very well. You can keep a very firm grip on it easily, and one handed operation works too, all while having a 4.3" screen.
Not sure about the people saying it feels cheap or anything, unless you correlate cheap with light - because it's very light. If this is the case, you can buy a nice big heavy cover for the device to make it feel heavier and sturdier - but that seems really stupid to me. A phone is meant to be mobile, the lighter the better.
Phones won't be perfect until they're razor thin, bendable, and weight as much as paper! And the SGS2 is firmly on the right track.

To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .

Problem is... the old galaxy didn't have an oleophobic coating. You try taking a screwdriver to that and the coating WILL come off. The screen will be resilient, but not the coating, sorry.
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To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .
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At the end of the day, apart from it going dark. I entered the store but left
The HD2 is such a class act to follow, it's replacement has a to be nearly as iconic.
And only then will I splash the cash.
We are all Android fanboi's so whatever we rock is cool.