Not buying SG2... - Galaxy S II General

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>This OP was from a user that is currently deciding which new handset to upgrade/change too. And has been wanting this handset for a long time, but now is having second thoughts<
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Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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to each its own. I couldnt stand my hd2 after having my galaxy s for a year. But it comes down to persoal preference. Im pretty sure theres some happy people enjoying there devices.

I agree. Nothing wrong with the phone, I just have a specific requirement to be able to use service manual pdf's on the move so i dont have to dig out the laptop.
Dont wanna troll. Just thought people who havent handled one yet maybe interested.
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Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.

lots of people aren't bothering with ascreen protector. they bring a good point that... anything that can scratch the gorilla glass will probably pass through any screen protector anyway. having said that... i'm getting one. i have one for my GS as well.
as for the GS II i just may not put it on yet

I like the shape of the sgs 2, very thin and light makes it ideal shape.

Yeah, we really needed to know this. Nobody is forcing you to buy anyone phone so if you don't like this one there is no need to run home, jump on the interwebz and make a thread on the forum about it.
I hope you like which ever phone you do get.

Pagnell said:
Having just upgraded from a HD2 yesterday I don't agree at all - the Galaxy S II feels a lot nicer in the hand. However, thanks to it's plastic construction, there is no doubt it feels less sturdy than HTC's offering. I get the impression that, despite the Gorilla Glass, one drop of this thing onto a hard surface would lead to a world of hurt. I'm not saying that is definitely the case but it feels that way.
I have a FlexiShield skin on order and I will feel a lot more comfortable once my phone is in it. I bought one for my HD2 18 months ago when I first got it and it saved it from at least a couple of drops. Superb cover.
On a side note, is anyone going to bother with a screen protector? I have never had a Gorilla Glass phone before so don't know the likelihood of it scratching. I much prefer touch-screen phones with no protector but for obvious reasons it's not a good idea.
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Dropped my SGS multiple times on hard flooring, concrete and Asphalt and despite thinking one drop and it was a goner the thing doesn't have a scratch on the screen, body still looks new and works perfectly. I wonder if the SGS II is the same way but I will not be dropping it anytime soon to find out.

I love my Galaxy SII but it seems that you might be better off with a 7in tablet such as the Galaxy Tab or maybe a bigger tablet such as the Advent Vega or iPad.
I personally couldn't read PDFs on a screen smaller than 7in for very long.

This is good info for me. Nexus One owner and I sported an HD2 for a few weeks and loved the feel and size, knowing it had the dimensions of my next phone (G2x was a failure for me).
MaxReality said:
Good news and bad news
Good news: Just been into Carphone Warehouse. And discovered Talk Mobile do a tariff. 12 month, £30/month, 400 mins, texts and Unlimited data with no fair usage limit. Handset £179. That in my eyes is a cracking deal.
Bad news: Handset looks nice, but has the ergonomics of a shoe box. Does not feel nice in the hand at all. Compared to my HD2. I maybe use to how my fone feels, but the edges just felt too square.
Also i tested both phones on moneysavingexpert.com homepage. The colours were perfect on the SG2. HD2 colours looked washed out. But I was testing clarity of the small letters. Both were identical. Iphone 4 is the yardstick for this and it fails.
So im passing on this and waiting for the HTC Sensation. The look and feel is paramount, u cant touch memory, so shouldnt miss it too much.
SG2= ergonomic fail.
I want to view pages without having to zoom all the time and read pdfs. Nice phone but no cigar, this time
Sorry.
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OP must have small hands, and you know what they say!
Small hands...........
Small gloves...

yeh I know what your on about I went from iPhone 4 to gs2 and text is so hard to read with no reflow option, but I gain so much more with customization, and the weight is great, the iPhone feels like such a brick now.
in saying that I had a hd2 and really missed it after I got the iPhone, thought I could get that feeling back with the sgs2 but it's not the same hd2 is a quality product.
enjoy your sensation and thanks for being honest in the lions den lol

i do agree with the [OP] regarding the "ergonomic fail" thing.
..and this is coming from a Samsung phone fanatic like me
personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
unfortunately i love all the technology packed inside that "disgusting" shell so is either take it or leave it, and i choose to take it
so the ergonomic fail became a non issue for me, as i'll be replacing the case, and using with a protection case, and other accessories i always slap onto all of my phones; i praise the after market accessories people to make the impossible possible

AllGamer said:
personally, i don't like at all the shell design of the SGS2, i'll definitely not use the SGS2 naked, it looks simply disgusting... seriously, for the lack of a better word to describe its design.
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Disgusting? Seriously? Dear me, it takes all sorts I guess and the world would be a boring place if we all had the same opinions.

IMO: I like very much the design, I can hold it in one hand and even type with one hand, it holds perfectly in my right hand... Even ergonomically I like it. It's simply perfect for me.
It's up to you to choose another phone. I would never choose another now. Especially HTC sensation which have many things less than Galaxy S2.

+10 I find the design very nice unlike some here
And I would never change it for nothing on the market that's just a piece of beauty, a very thin piece actually
What I don't understand is the point of this topic ? If you feel it not as you want anyone else could feel it in the hand differently like me. And many peeps have already said they like the feel in the hand in this thread so your opinion can't be taken for facts until someone interested in it hold it for real :/ anyway...

Pitching in on the ergonomics of the device being awesome, for me anyway. If you have really small hands then this will probably be a pretty bad phone for you, since it wont fit comfortably into a normal grip. That aside, for people with average or large hands, this design works very well. You can keep a very firm grip on it easily, and one handed operation works too, all while having a 4.3" screen.
Not sure about the people saying it feels cheap or anything, unless you correlate cheap with light - because it's very light. If this is the case, you can buy a nice big heavy cover for the device to make it feel heavier and sturdier - but that seems really stupid to me. A phone is meant to be mobile, the lighter the better.
Phones won't be perfect until they're razor thin, bendable, and weight as much as paper! And the SGS2 is firmly on the right track.

To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .

Problem is... the old galaxy didn't have an oleophobic coating. You try taking a screwdriver to that and the coating WILL come off. The screen will be resilient, but not the coating, sorry.
darkninja157 said:
To me I'm loving everything about the phone, ergonomics included. I don't have huge hands but find the phone very easy to hold and use for one handed operation.
As for a screen protector I will say a big NO. I work for a Verizon retailer and we have a demo line hooked up to their version of the first galaxy s, the fascinate, that also has gorilla glass. Being inquisitive and it being a demo line, I decided to test the durability of gorilla glass. Grabbed a phillips head screw driver and preceded to try and scratch the screen. Repeatedly I scraped it, scratched back and forth quickly, and somewhat violently tried to stab it. Wiped off the screen with a micro-fiber cloth and not one scratch or mark on it, gorilla glass is really some remarkable stuff.
I'm not saying its impossible to damage it, but it will take some serious effort. Since most of you guys probably take care of your phones anyway, with gorilla glass your screen will be fine. A screen protector on gorilla glass just seems redundant .
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At the end of the day, apart from it going dark. I entered the store but left
The HD2 is such a class act to follow, it's replacement has a to be nearly as iconic.
And only then will I splash the cash.
We are all Android fanboi's so whatever we rock is cool.

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Naked or covered???

I just bought online the invisibleSHIELD™ for my EVO (only the front cover).
Do you think guys it would be necessary to buy a rubber cover for the body?
Edit: i canceled my order and bought the full cover now, so i won't need the condom, lol
Nah. I don't think it really makes much of difference unless you're really worried about dropping it on hard surfaces. A rubber case will add a lot of bulk to a phone that's already pretty monstrous.
I will note, however, that my experience with InvisibleSHIELD's screen protectors have been less than stellar. It kinda gives the screen a grippy feeling. This makes it very hard to use pinch to zoom and stuff like that. Just my opinion...
ENJOY THE EVO!!
Depends on the person (oh by the way I'm sure their is already a thread about this, man your gonna get it) some people are clumsy and drop their $500 phones all the time. Me I take pretty good care of my device so I generally don't need one. With that said I have ordered a condom for this phone I got a silicon jelly whatever. Mainly because I was already ordering the screen protector and it wasn't a lot more to just drop that in the box.
zone23 said:
Depends on the person (oh by the way I'm sure their is already a thread about this, man your gonna get it) some people are clumsy and drop their $500 phones all the time. Me I take pretty good care of my device so I generally don't need one. With that said I have ordered a condom for this phone I got a silicon jelly whatever. Mainly because I was already ordering the screen protector and it wasn't a lot more to just drop that in the box.
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A condom? lol
I may get one two, maybe a blue one.
I'm leaving mine totally naked. I may buy a screen protector, but I have yet to decide. Thankfully, HTC is a company that has realized the practicality of MATTE FINISHES. I cannot stand glossy, fingerprint and scratch magnet surfaces.
Hmm i hate having lil hairlines on the back of my device, due to laying it on a desk or so.
Im not scared of dropping it, but it depends on the grip of the device in my hands. if it feels like its going to slip out of my hand while im holding it. Then i might buy a silicone case like the one that came with the HTC HD2. if they have a case like that one.
hey question. all the iBoy's are running around with otterbox cases on their "phones" is the HTC HD2 the same form-factor as the evo?
cause there's always this option:
http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/htc-hd2-cases/htc-hd2-commuter-series-case-u.s./
which if it fits, i think i will be getting
SilverStone641 said:
hey question. all the iBoy's are running around with otterbox cases on their "phones" is the HTC HD2 the same form-factor as the evo?
cause there's always this option:
http://www.otterbox.com/htc-cases/htc-hd2-cases/htc-hd2-commuter-series-case-u.s./
which if it fits, i think i will be getting
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You know the HD2 Duel flash is on the right. the Evos on the left. and i think the camera on the evo got a ring around it. so i dont think a HD2 case will work. far as camera.
YoungAceAtlanta said:
Hmm i hate having lil hairlines on the back of my device, due to laying it on a desk or so.
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Kickstand. Bam!
mikevillarroel said:
A condom? lol
I may get one two, maybe a blue one.
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Yeah, a condom. For "just-in-case accidents" ;D
If you're gonna get a case for such a massive touchscreen device, you really can't beat Otterbox. EVERY phone could benefit from an Otterbox case. As for screen protectors, just get a standard WriteRight package. They're wonderful things.
Seido option
I like this one by Seido:
http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4213.htm
I've never had one before.
Since the EVO is fairly large, Not sure how much more this would add to the large form factor.
Anyone had this:
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/csr3hev4-bk.htm
TIA...
I am getting the Innocase from Seido. The one without the belt clip attachment. Its only 1mm thick so thats not bad at all..
As far as those body skins. I would like to get one but they look like a major pain in the ass to put on and I wont have the patience for it cause it would have to be perfect.
Now if I could send it off somewhere to have professionally done then I would.
That otterbox looks pretty good. Substantial coverage with minimal "add-on" to the phone. Will consider that...see what they develop for the EVO (need kickstand hole, proper camera/LED/speakerphone holes). I'm just concerned about any additional add-on to the dimensions of the phone. It's huge as-is; doesn't need any more girth!
Also would be concerned about how much it makes it "stick" coming out of a pocket...
i just realized something about that otterbox i posted. the HD2 has physical buttons on the bottom, while the Evo has touch sensitive(if i remember correctly) so we would have to wait for an official Evo case. maybe coming soon?
I'm not too keen on cases, they add bulk to what are already big phones. My TP2 and the original TouchPro are thick with their qwerty keyboards.
I'm pretty careful with my phones, don't really have slippery hands. Only real accident I had with my TP2 is after about a week from purchase, I think I put my phone in the same pocket as my keys and out it came with a 1/4 inch scratch on the screen. I've been staring at it since.
Only accidents I ever really had with phones was with an old BB 7510. The belt clip was hard plastic, and it slipped out numerous times going up and down stairs. Pretty tough device though, the only thing that ever happened was the battery and cover would fly off...even after tumbling down cement staircases!
That's the one downside to new phones.
khov07 said:
they add bulk to what are already big phones
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I have never been down with phone cases and screen protectors.
1. Similar to what the poster I quoted said, why would you want to make the device bigger than what it already is?
2. I think 99% of cases and screen protectors look stupid and nerdy. I usually think the phones I buy have visual appeal, and I don't know why anyone would want to cover it up. The EVO's exterior looks great.
3. I don't need to "baby" my phones. I don't really care if the screen gets scratched or if I drop the phone. I could give a ****. It it breaks or becomes that bad, I'll buy a new one.
The only reason I can agree with is when people want to have a case so they can belt clip the device or whatever. I like to carry phones in my pocket, but that's just me.
Totally agree with point number 2... IMO cases completely downgrade the look of a device; most are plain dorky. You can usually spot an iphone owner a mile away, as they typically have bedazzled/'gucci' (girls) or generic (guys) cases on them.
A lot of effort is put into the exterior design of these phones...why cover it up? Besides, I'd hate someone to confuse my EVO with a boring iphone that any joker can pickup for $97 at walmart, one aisle over from either diapers or anti-freeze.
This is the one i got today, let's see if its works...
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-evo-4g-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
Right now my Evo is going bareback....
I'm waiting for my screen protector to come in, and will probably get an otterbox once they release it for the Evo.
Camp said:
I have never been down with phone cases and screen protectors.
1. Similar to what the poster I quoted said, why would you want to make the device bigger than what it already is?
2. I think 99% of cases and screen protectors look stupid and nerdy. I usually think the phones I buy have visual appeal, and I don't know why anyone would want to cover it up. The EVO's exterior looks great.
3. I don't need to "baby" my phones. I don't really care if the screen gets scratched or if I drop the phone. I could give a ****. It it breaks or becomes that bad, I'll buy a new one.
The only reason I can agree with is when people want to have a case so they can belt clip the device or whatever. I like to carry phones in my pocket, but that's just me.
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I agree with the first two points, so I'm reluctant to get a case/screen protector. Unfortunately, I do care if my phone becomes scratched or if I drop it. I can't really afford to buy a new one!

Nexus One > Nexus S

Im south korea right now and got my hands on a Nexus S for about an hour or so.
The screen is Amazing. Better than my amoled N1. Battery life seems to last forever, i opened lots of cpu intensive apps and it barely moved for the hour i was playing with it. gingerbread is super smooth, but i didnt get a chance to see whats changed in he menus etc since the OS was Korean. I dont think it was the final release either since it was running 2.3, but it looked alot like basic froyo...none of the 3D stuff u see on youtube.
The case was plastic and super cheap compared to my nexus. I like the weight of the phone, but it just doesnt feel right in your hand because of the cheap glossy plastic.
I think im going to stick with my N1, overall its a better phone. There isnt a big enough leap for me to spend another 600$ on a phone, maybe next time with the N3.
The owner requested i dont take any pictures of it, but i just wanted to let you guys know what i think about the phone in the short amount of time i had with it
The plastic is an acquired thing. I feel like my Vibrant makes the Nexus one feel like shiz. Probably because I wasn't 'used' to the nexus one.
honestly i'll take plastic and gorilla glass over the nexus one anyday
you drop your nexus one without an invisible shield and a case and it's going to get destroyed, exactly what happened to a friends.
You drop a galaxy phone, made of plastic and gorilla glass, and it may get scratched up, not broken.
Honestly i hate the back because of the dots texture they put on it. when i pick up the invisible shield probably gonna make a custom back.
neok44 said:
you drop your nexus one without an invisible shield and a case and it's going to get destroyed
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Your friend sounds quite unfortunate -- I've accidentally dropped my Nexus several times -- when landing on its front into a relatively smooth surface from around table height, there is no scratch. The one time I get some dents (on the teflon back/bottom) is when it felt on a cobblestone pavement.
hircus said:
Your friend sounds quite unfortunate -- I've accidentally dropped my Nexus several times -- when landing on its front into a relatively smooth surface from around table height, there is no scratch. The one time I get some dents (on the teflon back/bottom) is when it felt on a cobblestone pavement.
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I dropped my nexus one twice. Once on its face and got a minor scratch... once on its side which resulted in a major cracked screen.
hircus said:
Your friend sounds quite unfortunate -- I've accidentally dropped my Nexus several times -- when landing on its front into a relatively smooth surface from around table height, there is no scratch. The one time I get some dents (on the teflon back/bottom) is when it felt on a cobblestone pavement.
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3 foot drop from his hand onto tile in his house, landed on the side as th0r615 said, and the glass shattered, also damaging the screen and basically all around destroying the phone.
I've dropped my nexus many times, luckily almost never on the screen, and it has dings and scratches all over the sides and the back.
My friend, and my dad, now have a samsung captivate and vibrant respectably, and both have dropped them many times, my dad's dropped from a 5 foot height with no case onto the screen and didn't get a scratch.
Not saying that samsung phones look nicer, but they sure survive better.
I have nexus one and I can say the following:
Pros on NS:
4" next generation S-AMOLED screen
more internal storage for applications
front cam
Pros on nexus one:
trackball
memory card
top mounted earphones jack
If NS had 32GB of storage (probably 2GB for applications and 27GB for general storage), I'll get it for sure. Without memory card support, I have to think twice before buying it.
The best thing to do with the back is what I did with my vibrant....
Get 600 grit sandpaper and sand it so it feels like velvet....It takes the greasy feel off of it and it feels beautiful in the hand....
Trust me if anyone has a galaxy in here try it on the extra back they give you
Honestly? Who cares if it's plastic.
99.9% percent of you guys will cover this thing up with a gel case or invisible shield or something. I rather have that gorilla glass with a plastic body for light weight.
mingkee said:
I have nexus one and I can say the following:
Pros on NS:
4" next generation S-AMOLED screen
more internal storage for applications
front cam
Pros on nexus one:
trackball
memory card
top mounted earphones jack
If NS had 32GB of storage (probably 2GB for applications and 27GB for general storage), I'll get it for sure. Without memory card support, I have to think twice before buying it.
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You like the jack on top? Doesn't that annoy you when listening to music lmao. I hate it when it gets in my way.
plumleytristan said:
Im south korea right now and got my hands on a Nexus S for about an hour or so.
The screen is Amazing. Better than my amoled N1. Battery life seems to last forever, i opened lots of cpu intensive apps and it barely moved for the hour i was playing with it. gingerbread is super smooth, but i didnt get a chance to see whats changed in he menus etc since the OS was Korean. I dont think it was the final release either since it was running 2.3, but it looked alot like basic froyo...none of the 3D stuff u see on youtube.
The case was plastic and super cheap compared to my nexus. I like the weight of the phone, but it just doesnt feel right in your hand because of the cheap glossy plastic.
I think im going to stick with my N1, overall its a better phone. There isnt a big enough leap for me to spend another 600$ on a phone, maybe next time with the N3.
The owner requested i dont take any pictures of it, but i just wanted to let you guys know what i think about the phone in the short amount of time i had with it
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Bla bla, you hold it wrong
FAIL
Android Touch said:
You like the jack on top? Doesn't that annoy you when listening to music lmao. I hate it when it gets in my way.
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Guessing you put your phone in your pocket upside down then? And considering that the HTC Desire HD has one on the bottom, yet all the leather cases official and unofficial do not cater for it....... pretty annoying place to have it.
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Your friend sounds quite unfortunate -- I've accidentally dropped my Nexus several times -- when landing on its front into a relatively smooth surface from around table height, there is no scratch. The one time I get some dents (on the teflon back/bottom) is when it felt on a cobblestone pavement.
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your friend is an idiot. since launch ive never had a case or a screen protector. and i drop it multiple times daily. its beat, but after 7 years of doing the phone thing sometimes you just have to use the damn thing. Gotta love HTC.
OnlinePredator said:
Guessing you put your phone in your pocket upside down then? And considering that the HTC Desire HD has one on the bottom, yet all the leather cases official and unofficial do not cater for it....... pretty annoying place to have it.
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I think it makes more sense having it on the bottom. When you listen to music, you put your phone in your pocket - obviously headphone jack facing out of your pocket - and when you take it out, its just a simple press of a button to change songs.
If the jack's on the top, you'll have to pull out the phone, do a spin, then change your music. Somewhat annoying now, having the Galaxy S. Haha. No complains though.
neok44 said:
honestly i'll take plastic and gorilla glass over the nexus one anyday
you drop your nexus one without an invisible shield and a case and it's going to get destroyed, exactly what happened to a friends.
You drop a galaxy phone, made of plastic and gorilla glass, and it may get scratched up, not broken.
Honestly i hate the back because of the dots texture they put on it. when i pick up the invisible shield probably gonna make a custom back.
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I dropped my Vibrant getting out of my car on day one, with a rubber case, into the street and the screen shattered. Never dropped my N1, too heavy on my lap I can't forget it's there, lol. Though my sister is using the N1 right now (I'm using my G2) and she somehow broke the accelerometer.
neok44 said:
3 foot drop from his hand onto tile in his house, landed on the side as th0r615 said, and the glass shattered, also damaging the screen and basically all around destroying the phone.
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Interesting, so it looks like the Nexus is quite vulnerable when it hits the ground on the side. I must have been quite lucky so far!
Hm, it makes the case for getting the NS more compelling.. argh
Nah .. it really depends on luck.. I dropped my nexus 4 times average height abt 4ft... dropped 3 times on rocky concrete floor .. battery and cover flew off too... once on a marble floor.. battery and cover scattered too.. It suffered some scratches and mini dents on the corner edges and trackball area...
I think I have a well built nexus .. I don't suffer from dust under screen problems as well.. I even turn on the fan to face my nexus when I am charging... no dust yet...
Android Touch said:
Honestly? Who cares if it's plastic.
99.9% percent of you guys will cover this thing up with a gel case or invisible shield or something. I rather have that gorilla glass with a plastic body for light weight.
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Exactly. Unless you are a fan of "naked-ness," who the hell cares. The Vibrant with a case feels like a solid phone. Not heavy at all also.
I use my Vibrant naked and love it. I tried out a G2 for a week then when I held my Vibrant I was like OMG THIS IS SOOOOO MUCH BETTER. G2 went right back regardless of the epic 10mbps I was getting.
Also I dropped it while walking (walked into a fire hydrant while using it) and it hit the hard cement. All that happened was the battery cover flew off, along with my battery and micro sd card (which i never found ;[). However the Vibrant had no issues after putting it back together. Just some scratches on the bezel.
I use the invisible shield from Zagg, so my Vibrant is virtually naked.

s2 build quality

ok s2 owners plz comment on the build quality of ur s2.
coz i m v much serious about the build quality, does it looks cheap r something like that. n is there any x omnia hd owner.
sajadkhan806 said:
ok s2 owners plz comment on the build quality of ur s2.
coz i m v much serious about the build quality, does it looks cheap r something like that. n is there any x omnia hd owner.
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Personally I'm very impressed with the build quality, even though it's all plastic, its all put together very well. All the seams line up PERFECTLY, there are no rough edges and no flexing. It looks and feels great.
For me the build quality is good. It does not feel very platic to me.
And I am very demanding on my phones, as you can see in other topics, I notice every little problem there is.
Yhe phone feels very sollid, everything is well pushed together, so no "air" between things... no looseness. It feels like one piece. Also no sounds if you push anywhere, no cracking.
I am very happy abouth the build quality, as I tought it would bother me.
r_a_c said:
For me the build quality is good. It does not feel very platic to me.
And I am very demanding on my phones, as you can see in other topics, I notice every little problem there is.
Yhe phone feels very sollid, everything is well pushed together, so no "air" between things... no looseness. It feels like one piece. Also no sounds if you push anywhere, no cracking.
I am very happy abouth the build quality, as I tought it would bother me.
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Haha yeah I've noticed we're exactly the same in that respect.
build quality is fine, the phone is just amazingly light which can make it feel cheaper than it is.
drm111 said:
Personally I'm very impressed with the build quality, even though it's all plastic, its all put together very well. All the seams line up PERFECTLY, there are no rough edges and no flexing. It looks and feels great.
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I agree completely.
Super impressed. MUCH better than other plastic phones like the atrix.
As more people here, I am really a phone freak. First thing I look in the first few days is how well the phone is build. I look for everything that wouldnt be good about the build quality.
Well, it is thin like hell, its light... But, it feels well built. The back cover is scary thin when taken off, but it snaps on perfectly (in 10 places). No cracks, funny noises or stuff. Its built nicely.
The only thing is I treat it very carefully when not in my case. That off course also shows it feels high quality, thats why I dont want to break it.
Maybe a very little build quality problem, altough it is not really a problem.
But between the glass of the screen and the surrounding plastic there is a smalish gap where dirt or dust gets in(not under the screen tough(for now)). Since i have my phone i cleaned it with the edges of a piece of paper.
r_a_c said:
Maybe a very little build quality problem, altough it is not really a problem.
But between the glass of the screen and the surrounding plastic there is a smalish gap where dirt or dust gets in(not under the screen tough(for now)). Since i have my phone i cleaned it with the edges of a piece of paper.
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I've noticed this on the the Atrix, SGSII, and thunderbolt. Just a fact of life now I suppose.
Well, it is thin like hell, its light... But, it feels well built. The back cover is scary thin when taken off, but it snaps on perfectly (in 10 places). No cracks, funny noises or stuff. Its built nicely.
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This was one thing I noticed too! It was totally shocking that it was that thin AND didn't creak and feel like crap.
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I agree completely.
Super impressed. MUCH better than other plastic phones like the atrix.
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I agree, too. I'm very impressed.
Dropped my phone three times from table height tonight. One not my failure and two falling out of top pocket picking up table football ball. All good except my pride and tiniest ding on the surround. :-/ not looking forward too hangover
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thanks a lot frnds, u ppl made my day. i was v much worried about the build quality. thanks once again. luv u all. xda is the best
Build quality is cheap compared to a lot of phones out there... and I just cracked the glass last night when I had my SGSII in my back pocket and was leaning against a stool at the bar in my fav night club last night... Pretty poor really for a $750+ phone.
sajadkhan806 said:
thanks a lot frnds, u ppl made my day. i was v much worried about the build quality. thanks once again. luv u all. xda is the best
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Consider it like this:-
Physically Samsung’s wafer-thin chassis is great in the pocket whereas its competitor HTC Sensation feels better in the hand. Tapering edges, a neatly curved display and high-quality metal and soft-touch plastic make for a device that feels more expensive than the Galaxy S II can manage.
It's a trade-off to give Samsung the edge in lightness and thinness. I have no problem with the thin plastic. I'm super careful with all my devices because I can resell them easier lol.
The phone's solid, but I treat it as if its fragile for some reason. Because its so light and thin, it always feels like it could fall out of my hand. Cases are starting to come out and I ordered a Case-Mate tough case. I know I'll be less paranoid about it once its protected.
And to the Aussie who cracked his screen... I've dropped other phones that have landed in ways that should have cracked their screens but for some reason they survived. I've done the same thing you did with an HD2 (which is also thin) by hitting it against something in a way a pressure point cracked the screen diagonally. No phone can protect you against every instance of screen breakage. I think thinner phones are more susceptible to pressure point cracks.
r_a_c said:
Maybe a very little build quality problem, altough it is not really a problem.
But between the glass of the screen and the surrounding plastic there is a smalish gap where dirt or dust gets in(not under the screen tough(for now)). Since i have my phone i cleaned it with the edges of a piece of paper.
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I'm glad there are others like me out there. My girlfriend pokes fun at me because every night before bed, I line up my phones and dust/clean them.
As I know the back made of polycarbonate and its a good material
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Consider it like this:-
Physically Samsung’s wafer-thin chassis is great in the pocket whereas its competitor HTC Sensation feels better in the hand. Tapering edges, a neatly curved display and high-quality metal and soft-touch plastic make for a device that feels more expensive than the Galaxy S II can manage.
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You also need to factor in that because the sensation uses metal for its casing, its also a lot heavier. This may or may not be what your looking for.
It really depends on the individual. In amazed on the good reviews here but honestly when I first opened the box my heart sank.
Coming from the hd2 and iphone 4. This felt like some cheap toy for my tenants sister to play with rather than cutting edge executive phone. Its plasticky but like all the comments above, it probably was designed this way to make it light.
Not my cup if tea but of the trade off.I've learned to live with it

G2 upgrade

HEy guys I've owned my G2 since Nov. of 2010 and it has the battle scars to show it. My battery door looks like CRAP. OEM battery still doesn't last me long and I have a small blemish on the top of the phone. Not to mention my hinge is loose as hell. So I devised a plan. I am going to "upgrade" my G2. Hinge and all. In total it has cost me $58.98 for the whole process.
- $2.45 for Screen protector (anti-glare / anti finger-print) 3 pack
- $29.99 OEM HTC Evo Shift 4G Battery (1500MAh)
- $16.00 OEM Battery Door Cover
- $2.84 Premium Hard Rubberized case (Black)
- $5.78 Springs for the Hinge
- $1.92 Car Charger. (Yeah I know)
But all of this from Amazon excluding the springs. I will post a link for those later when I locate it. But for $58.98 for a "overhaul" that doesn't seem too bad? I decided to buy this whole thing at one time so I know it may take a few weeks for the parts the come but hey! Doesn't hurt to make my phone look brand new?
Just wanted to share this info for those who may have been interested in doing specific things to their phone and money is a issue.
Ive heard that the touch screen for the G2 is Gorilla Glass, so since there is no scratches on it yet, there shouldnt be anytime soon (as long as you take care of it). I done the whole screen protector thing, and after awhile, it takes away from the beauty of the phone. i know - it's my opinion.
I have done the hinge spring replacement, which works EXCELLENT! The best damn thing i did for my G2! it will take you a full afternoon to do-it yourself, but it's SOOOO worth it.
I also replaced my stock battery with a Mugen Power 1800mAh Extended Battery. This is such a worthy investment. It gave me another 5 hours to my phone. I'm a HEAVY user (GPS, Navigation, games, internet, texting, email). I purchased the battery from the source company instead of depending on a third party company.
My screen is good but it seems to be impossible to keep people away from my phone. I am getting mine form HTC. So it is worth it to do the Hinge + Spring mod?
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My screen is good but it seems to be impossible to keep people away from my phone. I am getting mine form HTC. So it is worth it to do the Hinge + Spring mod?
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Yep! Well worth it! Just follow the tutorial HERE. It might be scary, but after completion. I can now pickup my phone by the screen alone, and it will not open. I can also pick the phone up from the back, and even shake it, and it still wont open. It must have been a design flaw or something, but my phone when new had a very week spring.
If its impossible to keep people away from you phone, just keep a few extra polishing cloths around to get rid of all the fingerprints. I personally just dont like screen protectors in general.. i think they take away from the aesthetics of the phone. I had a Vibrant before I upgraded to a G2, and from the first day, I put on a screen protector to prevent scratches. Well, after awhile the screen protector on the phone started to look like CRAP. I mean WHY?.. i asked myself WHY? I figured there were a team of highly paid engineers which selected the type of screen for our phones that wont scratch under normal to heavy use.. Of course there is always the exceptions, like if you work in a job with a lot of sand around. Sand is the enemy to our little touch screens, even Gorilla Glass can't hold up to sand. Anyway, please excuse my rant - it is my opinion.
Its greatly appreciated. I shall keep that in mind. I eventually take them off after about a month.
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lawalty said:
If its impossible to keep people away from you phone, just keep a few extra polishing cloths around to get rid of all the fingerprints. I personally just dont like screen protectors in general.. i think they take away from the aesthetics of the phone. I had a Vibrant before I upgraded to a G2, and from the first day, I put on a screen protector to prevent scratches. Well, after awhile the screen protector on the phone started to look like CRAP. I mean WHY?.. i asked myself WHY? I figured there were a team of highly paid engineers which selected the type of screen for our phones that wont scratch under normal to heavy use.. Of course there is always the exceptions, like if you work in a job with a lot of sand around. Sand is the enemy to our little touch screens, even Gorilla Glass can't hold up to sand. Anyway, please excuse my rant - it is my opinion.
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Sounds like your experience was with a cheap screen protector. I use Bodyguardz, and you can't tell its there, by look or feel. Its been in place for 6 months now, and no visible scratches, and very fingerprint resistant. But cheap protectors (3 pack for $2.45 the OP mention probably apply) do scratch easily and attract fingerprints and smudges like crazy. The included protector with my old AT&T (Tilt Pro 2) lasted about a month and looked like crap, like you said.
Of course, its completely a matter of personal preference. But some people on here have had scratches from what they claim is normal use. For me, I'd rather put on a protector (a good quality one, that doesn't affect the look or feel of the phone), rather then get a scratch and wish you had used a protector.
There is a screen protector that's worth $21 at BestBuy called the Zagg Shield. Is that even worth the price? Looks flimsy
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Sounds like your experience was with a cheap screen protector. I use Bodyguardz, and you can't tell its there, by look or feel. Its been in place for 6 months now, and no visible scratches, and very fingerprint resistant. But cheap protectors (3 pack for $2.45 the OP mention probably apply) do scratch easily and attract fingerprints and smudges like crazy. The included protector with my old AT&T (Tilt Pro 2) lasted about a month and looked like crap, like you said.
Of course, its completely a matter of personal preference. But some people on here have had scratches from what they claim is normal use. For me, I'd rather put on a protector (a good quality one, that doesn't affect the look or feel of the phone), rather then get a scratch and wish you had used a protector.
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I believe its Bodyguardz. Its stored under my amazing cart. I will have to check when I get home.
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I believe its Bodyguardz. Its stored under my amazing cart. I will have to check when I get home.
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I doubt it. Bodyguardz (dry apply, screen only type - not full body) goes 2 for $15 plus shipping. So unless you found some smoking deal, it seems unlikely they are going 3 for $2.45.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/t-mobile-g2-dry-apply-cases-screen-protectors-covers-shields-skins-films.html
If it is in fact Bodyguardz, let me know where you found that deal!
This whole post comes from Amazon. Its the only place I feel you can get a good deal on accessories to be honest or OEM
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creepinm3 said:
There is a screen protector that's worth $21 at BestBuy called the Zagg Shield. Is that even worth the price? Looks flimsy
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If you look around the Accessories subforum, you will find good things said about Zagg. While I haven't tried Zagg myself, I think they use a very similar material to Bodyguardz, if I'm not mistaken. The material of Bodyguardz is thin and very pliable/flexible, but still offers great protection.
But $21 is a bit pricey to me for just the screen protector, and only one of them.
I've got a zagg on my vibrant, put one on my wife's g2, one on the way for my son's LG Optimus. Best screen protector ever. Lifetime warranty, install on The Wife's G2 took 3 minutes (Thank God I got it right the first time!), neither of us notice they're there. IMO, worth $20.
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I've got a zagg on my vibrant, put one on my wife's g2, one on the way for my son's LG Optimus. Best screen protector ever. Lifetime warranty, install on The Wife's G2 took 3 minutes (Thank God I got it right the first time!), neither of us notice they're there. IMO, worth $20.
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Hmm, I shall see about one of these.
-Kiyo
I have no idea why a screen protecter is needed for a G2? Especially if one uses any kind of protector casing. I have never used a screen protector and my phone has fallen off a moving car, dropped on floor a few times, used on the beach numerous times,and in out of my pockets. Not one scratch to my screen. Screen protector is a waste of money.
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I have no idea why a screen protecter is needed for a G2? Especially if one uses any kind of protector casing. I have never used a screen protector and my phone has fallen off a moving car, dropped on floor a few times, used on the beach numerous times,and in out of my pockets. Not one scratch to my screen. Screen protector is a waste of money.
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Here here! Totally agree!
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I agree with redpoint on this one. Although you may feel your screen is indestructible at this point, it really isn't. Just one scratch from a random thing and you'll be wishing you had a screen protector. Better safe than sorry, I'll pay that 15 bucks so I never get a scratch that will annoy me the rest of the phone's life.
I have a high quality screen protector on my Tilt2 (can't remember if it's Zagg or Bodyguardz). Some say that these nicer ones have a rubbery tacky feel about them and take away from the slickness of the screen. I must agree with that, the one I have is a bit rubbery. Most people on these forums hold the Clarivue protectors highly though. They say they have no rubbery feel and take nothing from the screen. They have many different variations of the protectors too.
http://www.clarivue.com/htc-g2tmobile-screen-protector.html
Knife vs G2 glass screen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kwd3v4cgVc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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It is just hard to scratch the G2 glass but definitely not impossible. My first G2 somehow managed to have two fine scratches on the screen, so I knew I wanted a screen protector for my second G2. I used a Crystal Clear one before and liked it until I felt a matte finished anti-glare one. I started trashing the crystal clear one that I had on, saying that it would attract too much fingerprint and face oil. I love the anti-glare screen protector and I love the way it feels. It does take away from the screen a little but not that much.
IMO, a full rehaul of your phone could also consist of a new housing. I just took a look on eBay and the price is insane! So maybe just throwing on a case so you can forget about any aesthetic flaws that you phone may have.
But I definitely think you should do the spring/hinge fix. I think that in itself will have you satisfied with your phone! Good luck!
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Knife vs G2 glass screen...
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While fun for shock value, and possibly a decent simulation of having the phone in your pocket with your keys, there are a great many things that are harder than steel on Moh's scale, that your phone might come into contact with. Plus, there are many common types of glass treatments and coatings that resist scratches from a knife, so again, the demonstration is really not all that meaningful.
slapshot30 said:
Although you may feel your screen is indestructible at this point, it really isn't. Just one scratch from a random thing and you'll be wishing you had a screen protector.
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Exactly. Many of these same things were being said back when I was on my old HTC Kaiser. People said it did just fine without a screen protector. I took my protector off, and it did seem to do fine for a few months. But over time, I noticed fine scratches developing, and one day got a huge gouge. I really wished I had stuck with a protector. That wasn't Gorilla Glass, but it seems that some people are having similar experiences on the G2 regardless.
slapshot30 said:
I have a high quality screen protector on my Tilt2 (can't remember if it's Zagg or Bodyguardz). Some say that these nicer ones have a rubbery tacky feel about them and take away from the slickness of the screen. I must agree with that, the one I have is a bit rubbery.
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My Bodyguardz protector did seem to have a slightly tacky feel at first. Really only noticeable when trying to swipe across the screen quickly (mostly while playing games). But this actually seemed to go away after a couple weeks for some reason, and it feels nice and smooth to me now.
To me, the look and feel of a good protector is not perceptible (versus no protector), and its worth using one. But I can certainly understand if somebody that is more perceptive or picky than me, may prefer to go without.

Is it misusage or just typical Samsung quality?

Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I bought a brand new galaxy note 2, but by now I already have some scratches on the back cover and some on the steel cornering? So is it just misusage or is it that Samsung have easily scratched covers? And I only dropped the phone like once so I don't think that all of these scratches came from misusage... Any ideas?
I had a sgs2 before and it got totally destructed by scratches and tearings...
Are you carrying diamond tipped nails in your pocket?
I have had my note 1 for 9 months and have dropped it a couple of times on concrete and ceramic tiled floors and it still looks 99% brand new. I don't usually put anything else with it in my pockets but it has come in contact with keys on several occasions.
Do you live in a sandy area? How do you carry it normally on your person?
Now that you mention it, I have a nasty scratch on my back cover too.
Never had a problem with my Note 1. I wonder if it is the glossy coating.
I'm using a case now though - much nicer to hold with a textured back.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
Now that you mention it, I have a nasty scratch on my back cover too.
Never had a problem with my Note 1. I wonder if it is the glossy coating.
I'm using a case now though - much nicer to hold with a textured back.
- Frank
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I really wish Samsung wouldve put a rubberized backing on the note II considering it'd have less of a chance to slip out of your hands which is pretty high considering how big this phone is...
ali madan said:
Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I bought a brand new galaxy note 2, but by now I already have some scratches on the back cover and some on the steel cornering? So is it just misusage or is it that Samsung have easily scratched covers? And I only dropped the phone like once so I don't think that all of these scratches came from misusage... Any ideas?
I had a sgs2 before and it got totally destructed by scratches and tearings...
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In your case, I'd suggest you check out Otterbox cases when they become available for the Note 2.
Well I think if samsung uses steel or aluminum cases like nokia our phone would feel and look better and will still remain in excellent condition even after couple of drops.. But unfortunately samsung uses glossy plastic which might not break as easily but will definitly not remain a "new phone" definition after a month or two...
Mad383Max said:
Are you carrying diamond tipped nails in your pocket?
I have had my note 1 for 9 months and have dropped it a couple of times on concrete and ceramic tiled floors and it still looks 99% brand new. I don't usually put anything else with it in my pockets but it has come in contact with keys on several occasions.
Do you live in a sandy area? How do you carry it normally on your person?
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Well the area Im living in is just a huge sand box! I mean sand everywhere! It might of contacted sand but I don't think that it this contact can cause such scratches...
Been using my GN2 for almost a week now with heavy usage and I don't a single scratch. I'm pretty sure it's just one those things where YMMV.
ali madan said:
Hey guys,
2 weeks ago I bought a brand new galaxy note 2, but by now I already have some scratches on the back cover and some on the steel cornering? So is it just misusage or is it that Samsung have easily scratched covers? And I only dropped the phone like once so I don't think that all of these scratches came from misusage... Any ideas?
I had a sgs2 before and it got totally destructed by scratches and tearings...
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Welcome to Samsung.
Would you like it with a serving of flimsy plastic?
Misusage ! I'm a plumber/tiler and always working in messy environments yet my note is in perfect condition. Also this device is made from polycarbonate the same stuff nokia and htc use and not flimsy plastic .
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Does anyone notice a distorted solarised texture on the white version of the back cover?
Livebyte said:
Welcome to Samsung.
Would you like it with a serving of flimsy plastic?
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Stop your childish Samsung bashing!
It's annoying to read your useless posts everywhere...
Write constructive criticism or leave it!
What are you the samsung police?
Give it a rest officer, if the gn2 has a back thats like the gs3 then yes its flimsy. samsung is notorious for cutting corners likr this to save money.
But with that said its usualy to provide better quality in other aspects.
If your tired of reading opinions you dont agree with why are you reading them?
To op and any one else sand is your worst enemy, it will scratch your phone everywhere, including the gg2 screen.
Sand bad.
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I like build quality. Example back door now clicks harder and is not easy scratchble like my s3(blue). Home button now easy to press
And display don't have it any more that background black spots. (which is available on any amoled screens)
Very happy.
People complain about plastic being a poor build quality choice. It's just a matter of opinion. I don't feel that it has to be metal/aluminum/whatever to be nice build quality. If anything, I feel plastic is more durable, lighter, and we get awesome internals. People don't complain about the mass amount of plastic BMW uses everywhere in their cars, but people also don't know enough to realize it.
ali madan said:
Well I think if samsung uses steel or aluminum cases like nokia our phone would feel and look better and will still remain in excellent condition even after couple of drops.. But unfortunately samsung uses glossy plastic which might not break as easily but will definitly not remain a "new phone" definition after a month or two...
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That is an amazing idea! The Iphone 5 has an aluminum back and has absolutely zero issues with scratches or chips. Some of them even come out of the box flawless.
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If your tired of reading opinions you dont agree with why are you reading them?
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How can someone know they don't agree with an opinion unless they read it?
duowing said:
People complain about plastic being a poor build quality choice. It's just a matter of opinion. I don't feel that it has to be metal/aluminum/whatever to be nice build quality. If anything, I feel plastic is more durable, lighter, and we get awesome internals. People don't complain about the mass amount of plastic BMW uses everywhere in their cars, but people also don't know enough to realize it.
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Exactly. People also don't know that the cover of a lot of phones are also actually plastic, just with a different coating to make it feel "premium". I could care less if its plastic and flimsy, there's a reason for it being that way. Its more durable.
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You already answered your question:Its missusage,I myself am very though user but I dont remember any of my Phones ever had a scratch.
bashinbg
i love it how people bash samsung its tipacal in every phone put a cover expecial on a device like this a cover is a must
i sold my galaxy s2 like brand new not a single scratch had it for 9 months i just use a cover

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