Upgradeable Memory COMFIRMED - Surround General

I'm sure you all have read this, but if not, here you go: http://wpcentral.com/htc-surround-s-microsd-card-slot-probably-there-not-easy-get
The HTC Surround appears to have a microSD slot, but it's covered by a piece of metal as seen in the picture below:
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I'm personally not too concerned since 16GB seems like more than enough, but I'm sure people will be asking if it can be upgraded or not. We really won't know till someone tears into it which is more likely since it was released today.
*UPDATE*
I just came across this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4015/htc-surround-review-pocket-boombox/8
It doesn't seem that difficult to get to actually, just a bit of disassembly required. It apparently comes with a SanDisk Class 4 16GB microSD card.

AT&T kills another great device! They also did it to the Tilt2 when they removed the 3.5 mm jack from that device. Somebody needs to fire an executive in that company.

T-Mobile did the same thing with the HTC HD7 but someone managed to swap cards and the HD7 worked with a 32GB microSD.

Stan City said:
AT&T kills another great device! They also did it to the Tilt2 when they removed the 3.5 mm jack from that device. Somebody needs to fire an executive in that company.
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Actually, It's not AT&T's fault. It's just that WP7 doesn't support swapping out memory yet, like say an Android phone.

Bought my surround today. ATT said there would be a patch comming out and not to insert a sd card yet....

The HTC Geek said:
Actually, It's not AT&T's fault. It's just that WP7 doesn't support swapping out memory yet, like say an Android phone.
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Yeah, we know you can't swap memory yet but the devices in Europe allows you to upgrade memory capacity before the 1st boot. AT&T choose to remove that option on the Surround not the Focus. AT&T's fault...

Just picked up my phone. Very solid device.

I got my surround yesterday, and so far, I am pleased.
Has anyone actually looked under that piece yet? A teardown of the Mozart revealed a similar metal piece that was not hiding a microSD card.
http://lifeinthefastlaneok.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/new-htc-7-mozart-sd-card-memory-upgrade/

Good find. I'm still waiting for mine, so someone else will have to dig into it.

Anybody care to break down their Surround?

Got my Surround 2 days ago
Nice phone, well built, the OS is slick with a lot of promise. Active tiles are slick, the Zune software on the phone & PC works great. In 2 days I managed to get back my BBC stream, got some video news, GPS is great, loaded some of my movies, set up my email, my contacts we transferred from my old sym at the AT&T store and I had no problems transferring them to the phone, and there are 100s of free apps already out and more coming every day. Pretty soon all of the developers will port over their apps and all will be fine again. Many apps use the GPS to find your area and cater what they deliver according to where you live. I paid $200 for it. I MAY have preferred to have the HD7, not sure since I haven't seen it and held it yet, but the Surround is really fine and if I decide to change or upgrade later on I wont lose anything. While we all get used to old habits and the way things work I thing this OS is an improvement and half the fun is setting up our toys the way we want them. Flash will be added to IE soon, upgrades will come from MS, we will be able to access the file system, more customizations will become available. The screen is twice the size of my Dash 3G. I am hoping an IRC client will be ported over soon since that is what I miss the most.

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Nice phone, well built, the OS is slick with a lot of promise. Active tiles are slick, the Zune software on the phone & PC works great. In 2 days I managed to get back my BBC stream, got some video news, GPS is great, loaded some of my movies, set up my email, my contacts we transferred from my old sym at the AT&T store and I had no problems transferring them to the phone, and there are 100s of free apps already out and more coming every day. Pretty soon all of the developers will port over their apps and all will be fine again. Many apps use the GPS to find your area and cater what they deliver according to where you live. I paid $200 for it. I MAY have preferred to have the HD7, not sure since I haven't seen it and held it yet, but the Surround is really fine and if I decide to change or upgrade later on I wont lose anything. While we all get used to old habits and the way things work I thing this OS is an improvement and half the fun is setting up our toys the way we want them. Flash will be added to IE soon, upgrades will come from MS, we will be able to access the file system, more customizations will become available. The screen is twice the size of my Dash 3G. I am hoping an IRC client will be ported over soon since that is what I miss the most.
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I completley agree with everything you said. The only thing that kills me is the battery life. It is down right terrible. I dont fiddle too much with my phone as im usually too busy to do so, but when i do want to use it, seems like the battery is just not up to the task.

Tips & tricks
Have a look in the Windows 7 general discussion..there's a tips and tricks thread at the top that give you ways to lengthen battery life. There are quite a few things to do like time out the screen sooner, turn off geocaching, etc. It should help. So far I haven't seen any spare batteries for sale on Ebay but they will come. This is a GREAT phone.

Updated the first post.

I would, but:
1) Haven't bought it yet and
2) I'd probably end up breaking it.

I was going to buy a 32gb class 4 card (Kingston), but $100 is half the price of the phone and I couldn't justify it. I also loaded a decent amount of stuff on it and have 9.7gb left. I think I can hold off for a while till prices drop.

If you look at the teardown article further you will see that under the metal cover is a metal pad with foam and under that is a 16gb micro sd card. Not sure its worth it as someone pointed out it will cost a bit for a 32gb micro sd card and you will void any warranty. As for the post that said WP7 does not support changing cards out I thought one of the 3 phones with WP7 that AT&T sells had a removable sd card and onboard as well. That would make more sence that the drive with the ROM needs to static but if you have that the os should support a removable card its just that the surround does not have build in memory so the micro sd cannot be removed.

The Samsung Focus has an accessible microSD slot. I believe it also has 8gb internally.

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No SDCARD slot for windows7 phones

FAIL ! major
Double fail!
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Epic fail!!
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You have a source link?
First offerings are typically missing things found on more robust devices. Think of the original iPhone--no native apps, MMS, GPS, copy/paste, multitasking, camera, 3G, etc. or the G1 or whatever.
Both iOS and Android started out on devices that were missing a lot of common features but now they are top of the line. I'm more interested in how WP7 looks in a year or two.
I think times have changed. WP7 has to be fully featured now. Smartphones are here, they are mainstream, and they are big business.
Turns out this information might not be correct just yet, here's what I found:
Here's what one can read on Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 portal:
“Some Windows Phones have a Secure Digital (SD) card that's used to expand the amount of storage space on the phone. If your phone has one, it's in an SD card slot underneath the battery cover on the back of your phone.
Windows Phone uses a special high–performance SD card that works differently than SD cards in other devices. When your phone is built and first set up, its internal storage and SD card are combined and recognized as one storage system.
Warning
You should not remove the SD card in your phone or replace it with a new one because your Windows Phone won't work properly. Existing data on the phone may be lost, and that SD card can't be used in other devices or Windows Phones.”
It kind of sounds like they just want to keep people from jailbreaking/flashing/rooting their phones, but maybe it's what they say.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-shows-off-10-new-windows-phone-7-devices
i take that back so far only 1 phone had a sdcard slot its the Focus all others are packing 16gigs of internal space
Windows Phone 7 has both good and bad, but to be honest, I like it a whole lot better in it's first release than I did with Android when it was first released.
One thing I like a lot, which I know a lot will disagree with, is (some of) the hardware standards. All WP7 phones, as far as I can tell, run the same old generation Snapdragon in the EVO (and even further back to 2009, the HD2). Yet the games and UI look great and run smooth. Having a standard level of specs means that it is easier to build a OS that will run as intended on all devices. With Android it's hit or miss; get a entry level Android phone and things will draaaaggg, get a high end phone without the latest and greatest CPU/GPU (EVO) and things will still not be 100% smooth. Google just can't optimize the experience for all these devices like Microsoft can -- and don't forget as a licensed OS, dev support comes attached.
The SD card thing is CERTAINLY LAME, I mean, what does that achieve? But the benefits to me are clear: WP7 will run smooth across the board; and with similar hardware and Microsoft support, updates will probably come A WHOLE LOT FASTER than what we get on Android.
I personally want to give WP7 a try, it's still missing a couple of important features (multi-tasking for third party media being the key thing). But the Office + Zune + Xbox Live integration looks better than anything comparable on Android, and as a designer who like smart minimalism, the Metro UI is perfect.
...and did you see the Touch Pro 7 coming to Sprint? That's the phone I was waiting for.
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Windows Phone 7 has both good and bad, but to be honest, I like it a whole lot better in it's first release than I did with Android when it was first released.
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That would be impressive if windows hadn't been on cell phones for much longer than android.
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That would be impressive if windows hadn't been on cell phones for much longer than android.
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Hmm.. Perhaps. Windows Mobile did almost everything Android does, only in a less intuitive/attractive way. Windows Phone 7 is an entirely different beast, and although the core is similar/upgraded, the UI/UX is entirely new. But still, there's no doubt that I'm interested.
Look at the TP7 for Sprint:
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SEXY. Keyboard to die for IMO.
no 4g or front facing camera. im good
Award Tour said:
Hmm.. Perhaps. Windows Mobile did almost everything Android does, only in a less intuitive/attractive way. Windows Phone 7 is an entirely different beast, and although the core is similar/upgraded, the UI/UX is entirely new. But still, there's no doubt that I'm interested.
Look at the TP7 for Sprint:
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SEXY. Keyboard to die for IMO.
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I'm not denying that it looks promising. I just was commenting that it's not the first entry into the mobile market. There has been a lot of trial and error to get there, just like every OS.

Is anyone using the Trophy in the USA?

If so on what carrier and what are the side effects?
I am testing a Verizon Trophy.... so far so good!
I'm using it with T-Mobile without any problems
Does your Trophy get to use 3G on T-Mobile?
MetalHd said:
I am testing a Verizon Trophy.... so far so good!
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really? awesome, any idea on a release date? rumor says the 24th. Overall how does it work? Is the screen nice (I know it isn't SAMOLED, but I hear SLCD) does it have a kickstand? I assume the card slot is not easily accessible...
I have no info on release.. but I am bugging them often.. they don't tell the reps squat. Works great, no kickstand, FM radio, 16gb.. Didn't tear apart the shield, so I am sure it is hidden.. but the 16 gb rocks.
Dreamspark for a free unlock!
MetalHd said:
I have no info on release.. but I am bugging them often.. they don't tell the reps squat. Works great, no kickstand, FM radio, 16gb.. Didn't tear apart the shield, so I am sure it is hidden.. but the 16 gb rocks.
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Regardless, thanks for the update MetalHd... Verizon has a sale (for my wife) if they can ever get the thing to market...
MetalHd said:
I have no info on release.. but I am bugging them often.. they don't tell the reps squat. Works great, no kickstand, FM radio, 16gb.. Didn't tear apart the shield, so I am sure it is hidden.. but the 16 gb rocks.
Dreamspark for a free unlock!
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yeah I have a dreamspark account...just waiting to get a phone...
MetalHd said:
I have no info on release.. but I am bugging them often.. they don't tell the reps squat. Works great, no kickstand, FM radio, 16gb.. Didn't tear apart the shield, so I am sure it is hidden.. but the 16 gb rocks.
Dreamspark for a free unlock!
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Can you confirm it's got the Super LCD or not(SLCD) ?
A email was leaked for it being released on the 24th....are you that close to release or do you think it's still buggy ?
I'm sure everyone has seen this but, according the e-mail, the Thunderbolt was released on schedule, so maybe the VZW trophy will...
Sick of waiting on Verizon to release one...really thinking about changing carrers, and with the Merge of AT&T/T-mobile, GSM could be the next big thing here in the US
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Well, the official Thunderbolt announcement happened on the 15th (two days prior), so perhaps tomorrow we'll see an official Trophy announcement? Keeping my fingers crossed.
MetalHd said:
I am testing a Verizon Trophy.... so far so good!
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Thanks for posting - can you share some info?
What is the rating on the battery - 1250mah?
Have you tried leaving BT on all day - how long did the battery last with what kind of use -e.g. push email, 1 hour on the phone...
Any significant issues with WP7 so far?
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Thanks for posting - can you share some info?
What is the rating on the battery - 1250mah?
Have you tried leaving BT on all day - how long did the battery last with what kind of use -e.g. push email, 1 hour on the phone...
Any significant issues with WP7 so far?
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Anyone? Bueller?
boe said:
Thanks for posting - can you share some info?
What is the rating on the battery - 1250mah?
Have you tried leaving BT on all day - how long did the battery last with what kind of use -e.g. push email, 1 hour on the phone...
Any significant issues with WP7 so far?
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I just want to have an idea on when Verizon will release the phone....WE MUST BE GETTING CLOSE !!!!! Someone give me something !!!
Is there anyone using an unlocked trophy on vzw in the u.s...does the unlocked trophy in the us/anywhere have cdma radio visible after nodo update??? nodo was pushed to all unbranded phones i think..and I dont think htc would make phone with a different radio same name...raphael/fuze
no they are different... the trophy has a qualcomm 8655(dual band? w/us cdma)
the arrive has a qualcomm 8600(us cdma)
all gsm win pho 7 (including the spark(Trophy))have a qualcomm 8250
Does anyone have an unbranded trophy w/a qualcomm 8655 in it ..I guess is the real question
Dreamspark?
MetalHd said:
I have no info on release.. but I am bugging them often.. they don't tell the reps squat. Works great, no kickstand, FM radio, 16gb.. Didn't tear apart the shield, so I am sure it is hidden.. but the 16 gb rocks.
Dreamspark for a free unlock!
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OK guys, for those of us that don't know what Dreamspark is, can you enlighten us. How do they offer unlocking the US Trophy on Verizon?
Battery life is great... I have bluetooth on all the time. The battery lasts a day, usually about 40% when I plug in at night. Push email is setup with an exchange server... the gps usage is nicer on the battery as well. It seems the different radios are much better with power management.
Dreamspark is the microsoft developer program for students. Lots of free goodies.
Also, no updates have been visible for the device. No MS or HTC.
Wishing I could get a high end WP7 phone or iPhone 5 today!
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Battery life is great... I have bluetooth on all the time. The battery lasts a day, usually about 40% when I plug in at night. Push email is setup with an exchange server... the gps usage is nicer on the battery as well. It seems the different radios are much better with power management.
Dreamspark is the microsoft developer program for students. Lots of free goodies.
Also, no updates have been visible for the device. No MS or HTC.
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Thanks for the info. I've been holding onto the vogue for ages - I'm still on Sprint. I tried the Diamond and it didn't last more than a few hours so I went back to the Vogue. Since I foolishly thought WP7 would come out sooner and because I didn't want a bulkier phone I skipped the HTC Touch Pro 2 (sprint never offered the imagio). I still have a great plan so I haven't switched carriers or phones as I'll have to change to the unlimited everything plan with Sprint at $110 to get enough land line minutes for my needs (double what I pay now).
I am having a hard time deciding what to do. I would love to buy a decent WP7 phone today but only ATT and Tmobile have any WP7 phones I want and I don't get good coverage with either where I need them. I want a WP7 phone however the Trophy hardware isn't blowing a lot of wind up my skirt. I would jump in a second if I could get a 4.3" screen - maybe on hardware like the EVO 3D - hell, I'd be happy with hardware like the Thunderbolt. I'd even buy a Focus on Verizon today if I could. I set up phones for my clients all the time so I see some pretty nice hardware including the new HD7 and the Focus.
Since Verizon didn't go for what I would consider a high end WP7 phone with a 4-4.3" screen I'll see what happens in June to find out if Apple releases the iphone 5. While I actually like WP7 a lot, Verizon seems pretty determined not to encourage WP7 sales and the Arrive on Sprint is even less like what I'd want in a WP7 phone.
Does anyone have a f'n clue when verizon will be getting one ?????????

MicroSD 64Gbyte

Since a lot of people think the DHD is going to get old and move to phones like the HOX, I just want to tell you that the new microSD cards with a capacity of 64Gbyte work on this great device! The HOX doesn't even have half of this capacity.
And...ICS is coming too! We still have some great devs here.
There is no need to buy a new phone.
If I haven't already bought the HOX, I would stay with my beloved DHD
Post 8 is card name and pic!
If this was helpful, please push THANKS.
Yea I'm too staying with my HTC Desire HD , but have you tried the 64gb card in your HTC Desire HD?
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What brand SDcard did you use? Screenshot of the available storage?
Nice to know!
I'm going to stay with the DHD as well
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What brand SDcard did you use? Screenshot of the available storage?
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Yep. +1 to that. Words words words......
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No it can't support 64gigabyte
Why it should not?
Or do you refer to the SDXC cards?
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Btw SanDisk Ultra Class 10 microSDXC Ultra 64 GB
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Yeah but even in the wiki article it states, that DHD supports SDXC, so it shouldn't be a news?
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Yeah but even in the wiki article it states, that DHD supports SDXC, so it shouldn't be a news?
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Wow! You must be a smart guy!
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It works!
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Btw SanDisk Ultra Class 10 microSDXC Ultra 64 GB
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Confirmed!! Works beautifully. Anyone who says otherwise is dead wrong.
Good to know. Nice one.
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IT DEFINITELY WORKS with 64gb.
Those saying it doesn't work didn't try it.
I'm using it right now ))
Does it have to be a specific 64 gb sd card or any will do?
I think any card is good...as far as is not a cheap clone and is an SDXC it will work (once formatted)
I too am happy to stick with my Desire HD. :good:
...or we could get another next gen phone THAT ALSO SUPPORTS MicroSD... ie SGS3... ^_~ ...not got one btw... but just stating an obvious logical answer besides sticking with our faithful DHDs
imho its a bad move for HTC to remove SDcard support... capacity for external storage for those type of media will only get bigger...
...opportunity to have 64GB (or more) on your smartphone just can't be easily dismissed. Especially if you carry around a ton of multimedia files as well as a chunk of your work and have a ton of pictures and a good part of your music collection! >_< lol!
ie my 1 and a half hour work commutes would be almost unbearable without my DHD with its 32GB card chock full of goodies to keep me from going insane in crappy uk public transport... @[email protected]
Yeah.
Personally, as far as function is concerned, there is little logical use in changing phones for me. I do in fact have a few more months before my contract expires and I'd like to eventually choose a very new phone that I can also support on my site without being a few months behind everyone else.
Having said that, unless another model has superior battery power consumption/time then I don't have a need for a different device. Like you, I commute throughout the day and therefore need the power to last me through the day, so I tend to limit YouTube, GPS or other things which happily eat away at the battery.
The idea of having loads stored on my device on a large SD Card is fine, but based on the above, I wouldn't use much of it.
The idea of losing the phone with so many eggs in one basket is not very appealing.
The idea of a bigger screen though like the Galaxy Note (which my barber has and showed me) is nice. I'd also consider future devices with removable rear covers, so that it's easy for companies like Mugen to make extended batteries for them. From experience that's real peace of mind.
The Microsoft Surface Tablet looks like a nice device which I could use for work maybe. If that became a primary toy, then maybe a phone would take a less important back seat for a while.
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Yeah.
Personally, as far as function is concerned, there is little logical use in changing phones for me. I do in fact have a few more months before my contract expires and I'd like to eventually choose a very new phone that I can also support on my site without being a few months behind everyone else.
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I have until November this year to renew my contract... so I have till then to decide... ^_^
Grant Barker said:
Having said that, unless another model has superior battery power consumption/time then I don't have a need for a different device. Like you, I commute throughout the day and therefore need the power to last me through the day, so I tend to limit YouTube, GPS or other things which happily eat away at the battery.
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DHD + latest Lord's ICS build (8.2 as I type this) with radio 26.13.04.19 has a great battery life even with all the hammering it takes from using DicePlayer, PowerAmp, exchange Email, Dolphin, XDA Premium and even games like temple run & zenonia 4...
With the above usage... I get the trip to work, actual work usage (i have my desk phone on divert to my mobile) and the trip home... all in one nights charge... so I only need to put it on charge before I go to bed.
Hell, I've even forgot to charge it overnight and I was still able to crawl through most of the day... with charging it late afternoon, ready for the 2nd half of the movie I was watching on my trip to work! >_< hahaha!
Grant Barker said:
The idea of having loads stored on my device on a large SD Card is fine, but based on the above, I wouldn't use much of it.
The idea of losing the phone with so many eggs in one basket is not very appealing.
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I hear you there dude... I had my 1st DHD nicked through a burglary... =(
However, all I ever lost was my 1st 32GB class10 MicroSD as well as my nandroids...
All my files, movies, music and photos exists on multiple devices... so anything that was on my DHD is a copy from my other machines...
...pity I didn't do the same with my Nandroid... I keep them locally for the purpose of error recovery... would've kept copies of it off the device had I wanted to be safeguarded from potential theft... =_=
As it's looking now.. unless HTC starts building new units with SD support, I'll not be jumping on their new range quite just yet...
If November 2012 hits and they've not released a device that fits the bill for me... its looking a lot like I'll be going for SGS3... =_=

GT-i9500 - internal storage 9GB ??

Hey guys, my i9500's internal storage is just 9gb. Normally, for 16gb phone, it must be around 11gb. So, where is 2gb lost ? Thanks
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The extra bloat...simple as that.
Yes, those extra features eat those spaces...
JayceOoi said:
Yes, those extra features eat those spaces...
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Please does your phone support LTE 4G or not?
You are lucky, some come with 8.4 GB free, but I assume those are carrier bloated phones. My unlocked I9505 came with 9.5 GB free.
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Even worse thats what you have left for apps and games, as by default these cannot be saved to the memory card. This phone should never have been released in 16gb with so little memory. 32gb should be the minimum.
Why can they not be stored on external card?
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Why can they not be stored on external card?
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Ask Google!
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Yeah it sucks and they haven't released the 32gb version yet
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still wondering why this is a surprise to people. this is getting ridiculous.
I'm probably not even going to get it because of this stupid decision to only have a 16GB version. I don't know what the hell I'm going to do now, my X2 is all but useless and I need to buy a phone off contract to keep my unlimited data. I'm not spending $500+ on a phone from months and months ago, so I guess I have to wait until the next "big" thing comes out. Joy.
At first I was just mad that Verizon was taking a month longer than everyone else, but as usual, things can always be (and in this case, are) worse.
My international unlocked 9500 showed 9 available on the phone but when looking at in on the pc the number was actually in the upper 8s, don't recall what it was exactly. After I used Ti to install the 91 user apps I had backed up 2.4 gigs of that was consumed with 6.6 remaining. Since I always send my photos out to SD and this is my entire collection of apps I obviously have enough room as I use the phone. I cant speak for anyone else but it seems to me that most people with the exception of gamers who have a number of large games they want to keep on the phone at all times will be ok since I would be able to install somewhere toward 200 more typical apps without running out of space.
This is not to say I don't agree with the fact that 16 gigs is now becoming just enough and will not meet some users needs. If the storage were not expandable I would not be able to carry the payload of data I carry. This of course would be true even if it were 32 gigs because I now use my phone as my mp3 player as well and I have my entire library on it. I actually prefer having this out on removeable storage anyways though because I hung up my ipod years ago and just move my music on the card from phone to phone along with the pictures and some other data that I carry with me for work.
And no, my phone did not pick up LTE when I was down in Seattle, I do not have it in my area though and it is not even on AT&Ts roadmap yet, if I did I would have likely went with the snapdragon.
krabman said:
My international unlocked 9500 showed 9 available on the phone but when looking at in on the pc the number was actually in the upper 8s, don't recall what it was exactly. After I used Ti to install the 91 user apps I had backed up 2.4 gigs of that was consumed with 6.6 remaining. Since I always send my photos out to SD and this is my entire collection of apps I obviously have enough room as I use the phone. I cant speak for anyone else but it seems to me that most people with the exception of gamers who have a number of large games they want to keep on the phone at all times will be ok since I would be able to install somewhere toward 200 more typical apps without running out of space.
This is not to say I don't agree with the fact that 16 gigs is now becoming just enough and will not meet some users needs. If the storage were not expandable I would not be able to carry the payload of data I carry. This of course would be true even if it were 32 gigs because I now use my phone as my mp3 player as well and I have my entire library on it. I actually prefer having this out on removeable storage anyways though because I hung up my ipod years ago and just move my music on the card from phone to phone along with the pictures and some other data that I carry with me for work.
And no, my phone did not pick up LTE when I was down in Seattle, I do not have it in my area though and it is not even on AT&Ts roadmap yet, if I did I would have likely went with the snapdragon.
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If you have the Octa version, several reviews of that version state the LTE function is on the chip, but disabled.
Yeah I read such myself and yet no one has confirmed it which at this point is surprising because there are now many out there and even if it should be so there is no surety that it will ever be working thanks to the smart gents here. Best IMO to leave the gate with the horse that has LTE aboard if you are in an LTE area and want to make use of it. This one for now doesn't have it and a rumor that may or may not be true isn't something I would hang my hat on.
Netskyliner said:
Please does your phone support LTE 4G or not?
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Nope, mine is I9500.
UNDER 9GBs AVAILABLE on the S4
SAMSUNG'S TAKE ON LOW MEMORY IS B.S.
Samsung can go on the DEFENSIVE all they want and this DOES NOT SOLVE the problem; A 16gb phone with under 8gb available to the consumer.
Its not an excuse stating that a lot of the memory is taking up by all the bells and whistles which a lot of us will not use. What happens in the future when Samsung upgrades their software more space will be taken up. A lot of people suggest using a micro SD card. THIS IS ONLY GOOD FOR MEDIA FILES AND DOCUMENTS. NOT GAMES.
As a consumer we are paying for 16 GBs and getting roughly half.
I was a Samsung Customer and owned the S1/2/3 but I WILL NOT CONSIDER THE S4 or the NOTE 3 until Samsung comes out with 32GBs.
Until we all stand up and tell Samsung how we feel they will keep on pulling this crap on us.
Thanks
Greg Joplin X SAMSUNG USER
Finally.
Samsung S4 will be featuring on BBC Watchdog over its memory claims. Details http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2...he-samsung-s4/
samsung has f*ck with this problem. it's too bad for them. they lost me as 1 customer out of 400+million customer cause of this storage.
my galaxy s 4 is the last galaxy after s2, note, s3, note 2 now s4 ( should be my last one )
please use foldermount for some big games. work great.
All they had to do was be more transparent. Also be honest about the apps and caches having to be installed to internal memory. Not everyone wants to root, and I cant because of certain apps that wont work if rooted.
I too have had the Note, S3, Note 2 and 4 other Samsung phones. This is the first time I am left a little disappointed.
Where is all my storage!?!?!
Hey guys,
So my phone says "Storage Space Running Out" but I just check and I am not using anymore than 3GB of the 8.9GB available. I took a screen shot and attached it here. Can someone help?

General: pics reviews previews stuff and things

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/134152-image/Sharp-AQUOS-Crystal-hands-on.jpg
preview, including hands on vid: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sharp-AQUOS-Crystal-hands-on_id59555
size comparison vs other 5inchers: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...ng-Galaxy-S4,HTC-One-M8/phones/8836,7597,8242
le verge preview: http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/19/6045973/sharp-aquos-crystal-sprint-hands-on
Anyway, its cheap (~250$) and seems a tad better than my current GS3, just dk If i'll be able to use it in Israel if I ever get my hands on one of those. Im dying to upgrade but everything seems to suck, except maybe honor 6 in terms of specs vs price vs not being ugly (including small bezels) vs availability.
I kinda want to get the crystal just to go full hipster about it @ work/friends
SIM card? Unlocked? etc...
Hello everybody...
I am a big fun of Sharp cell phones... I am %00 sure about this... Sharp is the BEST... Forget the rest...
Anyway )) Is there anybody who knows if this phone has SIM card... And possible to find unlocked device etc...
Thanks a LOT!
Chances are that the Softbank version will have one since it is a GSM/WCDMA carrier. The only problem would be getting it unlocked.
Things are a bit murkier for the Sprint version. Sprint is a CDMA carrier and I don't believe many of their phones have GSM/WCDMA sim card slots. Or at least accessible SIM card slots.
My hopes are lying on the Crystal X coming. I would definitely opt back to Sprint for it.
I would buy this if its possible to use in the UK on the GSM networks, I dont even care about the 4G bands too much, so 3G seems to work great in my city without being too slow.
So lets all hope when its out, we can root and unlock the phone to use on other network's. (If supported base bands)
Not seen any development for Sharp phones, so not sure on their policies with bootloaders and security.
I've read the front covering for the display is only plastic. I wonder how easily that will scratch as opposed to something like gorilla glass.
I think that smartphone make by japan is wonderfull to use foe everry one . I like Aquos sharp
It seems like it has a removable back. Is it really? I searched for videos removing it but haven't found any. And if it is removable does it allow you to put any Sim or battery you want? Because those two are the only deal breakers for me. If it does allow for a plethora of batteries then the first I would do is buy one with extended capacity (2000 mah doesn't cut it), or at least a second battery as a backup. And, if it does allow you to swap Sim cards, maybe devs here would figure a way to allow for full gsm support as they did with other sprint phones.
If anyone will bring any more info on those two issues (no matter in what language may the info or video is posted) it would be really helpful.
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It seems like it has a removable back. Is it really? I searched for videos removing it but haven't found any. And if it is removable does it allow you to put any Sim or battery you want? Because those two are the only deal breakers for me. If it does allow for a plethora of batteries then the first I would do is buy one with extended capacity (2000 mah doesn't cut it), or at least a second battery as a backup. And, if it does allow you to swap Sim cards, maybe devs here would figure a way to allow for full gsm support as they did with other sprint phones.
If anyone will bring any more info on those two issues (no matter in what language may the info or video is posted) it would be really helpful.
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I also have questions about that but didn't find a video. Might be because its either new and still not released, also I have questions about if it will work on UK 3g.
I love the design and have been jealous about the other sharp phones with minimal bezel that have been in japan for a long time.
I would really like to buy/import this phone but only if 3g will work on my carrier.
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I've found this image but the Sim card slot is more than likely for 4G LTE on Sprint/Virgin/Boost
Hope we get a release date soon as I really want this phone on Virgin.
I read somewhere that the first one will be a 5" screen, the specs are kind of weak............but supposedly in December there will be a 5.5" screen version with better specs (ram, etc.).
i just bought this phone the other day and have really, really like it. i was wondering if any is rooting it so we have a little more control over what goes on it and what it can do. it's definitely high style and that's a plus!
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i just bought this phone the other day and have really, really like it. i was wondering if any is rooting it so we have a little more control over what goes on it and what it can do. it's definitely high style and that's a plus!
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I'm really hoping this phone gets root as well. It's amazing device but root access is definitely important to me for Foldermount and Wi-Fi Tether. Giving it's quality design and very affordable price, I'd say it's going to be a good seller for Boost and Virgin mobile. It looks better than the $600 S5 it's $149..
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and that's what's so sad. a phone costing much more looks like an old LG. I think the Galaxy Alpha is supposed to change that but whatev. I really like this phone and it grows on me daily. no compliments an iPhone because EVERYONE (mainly older people that I've seen) has one and they all look the same. and the Galaxy S series never caught anyone's eye ever so there was nothing there with that. I never wanted my phone to say "look at me" but this one is so pretty and it seems everyone else thinks so as well if I judge by how many time people grab my hand in a store! it's a great design either way and worth every penny! and I think the performance is wonderful too!
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and that's what's so sad. a phone costing much more looks like an old LG. I think the Galaxy Alpha is supposed to change that but whatev. I really like this phone and it grows on me daily. no compliments an iPhone because EVERYONE (mainly older people that I've seen) has one and they all look the same. and the Galaxy S series never caught anyone's eye ever so there was nothing there with that. I never wanted my phone to say "look at me" but this one is so pretty and it seems everyone else thinks so as well if I judge by how many time people grab my hand in a store! it's a great design either way and worth every penny! and I think the performance is wonderful too!
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you can kinda tell I really like this phone because I've had several since my XDA join date in 2010 and not ONE has made me post anything at all. i'm up to 3 already! lol good job, Sharp!!!!
People who had bought the japan version (305SH) like me without documentation, you can download the english doc version of 306SH :
http://files.sharpusa.com/Downloads/ForHome/Mobile/boost_sharp_aquos_crystal_ug_en_090414.pdf
can be usefull.
what carrier are you using?
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what carrier are you using?
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As all Japan version: SoftBank, that s why I m looking for root/simunlock ! (I m European)
thought you were in the United States
myspac said:
As all Japan version: SoftBank, that s why I m looking for root/simunlock ! (I m European)
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Where did you get the Japanese version and for how much?
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Where did you get the Japanese version and for how much?
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eBay with paypal.

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