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Anyone here go from X to INC?

I do love my X, but I have grown a little tired of the size and form factor. I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
Anyone had a good experience going to the INC form the X?

I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.

SynbiosVyse said:
I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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Only thinking about resale to help me buy a new phone when some newer versions come out (I had used the new every 2, even though its gone now, on X release date).

r3dlined said:
I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx

fortesquieu said:
I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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Hrmm I wonder why that is. I have been trying to look at what people are selling these for in the forums.

I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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I had an X and returned it for an Incredible. Part of the reason was because the Incredible was free and the X had cost me $200. That said, the Incredible feels faster, even with slightly slower hardware, thanks to HTC's superior software. Motorola's software package is pretty terrible.

I made that switch. The battery life is definitely worse on the incredible. I missed the big screen at first. Made the incredible seem extra small coming from the X. I have an slcd incredible and even that screen seems to have much more contrast than the Droid x. I like running cyanogenmod and custom kernels so im enjoying the incredible.

codyppc said:
I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!

I'm actually confused myself. On htcpedia there is the 1500mah for $40 for the incredible .... but the 1500mah for the evo is $30... are they the same and does it matter?
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McDizzle said:
Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
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Yes.
/10 char

X might be a nice phone but with a locked bootloader that's harder to get in than Fort knox...no thanks I will stick with my Incredible

I went from an Incredible to an X back to the Incredible
The X had nothing but issues, and screen wasn't nearly as gorgeous as the AMOLED one.
The Sense UI is the best UI you can get for Android, in my opinion hands down the best.
The hardware of the Incredible feels faster too like another poster said, on the X my friend and I were in a parking garage waiting to get a GPS signal, i pulled my Incredible out and mine found our location when the X was still looking for 10 more mins.
The X is also too tall, it doesn't use the right screen ratio like the EVO and ThunderBolt will.
The developer community is the best on EVO/Incredible vs Droid 1/2/X
and I also develop themes for Incredible which i'll be moving on to ThunderBolt

I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.

I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...

r3dlined said:
I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
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What do you mean by the touch screen isn't as accurate? My friend and my cousin both have the X, my brother has the Fascinate, and I have the Incredible. I've used all 3 phones extensively and in my experience, the X has the least responsive touch screen of all. Do you mean accuracy as in trying to click on small links on web pages or something? If that's the case it might just be because the screen is smaller; if you're having trouble you could try highlighting the link or button that you want to click with the trackpad.

re x
i have the droid incredible and i bought the droid x on the week it came out.
Immiatlely i was dissappointed at the same time some things were great.
The low audio on the navigation even with the windows up made it unusable with turn by turn directions... im sure they fixed this.
The ****ty Moto UI = **** sammitch.
The below average quality of the lcd, it looked washed out and bland compared to my incredible.
The large 4.3 inch screen was awesome to surf on.
it was thin for a large phone.
It was new.
I have had many phones in the past and none of them gave me the same kind of user experience as HTC and sadly the iphone.
If i was technically retarded and was an old woman i would have kept my iphone..
But nobody besides HTC has made a better phone AND UI...
Samsung UI = **** , hardware = ok, software updates = ****
Motorola UI = **** see above
LG = **** **** and more ****
Sony = erickson = ****
nokia = failing ball of **** sammitch.. check their stocks.
Blackberry = corporate fail, good comm device.. everything else is 10 years behind.
iphone = boring plus your instantly enrolled in a group of 10 year olds and wanna be tech folks ... and mothers...any phone an old woman is comfortable using is a phone i do not want.

Well I had to trade the INC back because there was dust collecting under the screen. I am absolutely in LOVE with the phone compared to the X. But the big question I can't decide on now is:
Do I sell my X and go buy an INC retail so I at least have a 1 year warranty on it or buy one used and hope for the best (buying a new one would probably cost me 230 or so).

brandon2x said:
I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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Yeah games was the only thing, but I haven't played one game on my X except for paper toss. Not such a big deal to me.

I started on an X... rooted it, ROMed it (to the extent that it can be, anyway), and tried to be patient while the devs cracked the boot...and got tired of waiting. I traded it to a friend straight up for an AMOLED DInc after 3 months, and seriously, there's no comparison. I love the freedom to load CM, or Ruby, or SkyRaider on my phone. I love the ability to remap the soft keys on my HTC or use QuickDesk or PowerStrip (neither of them can be done on the X due to the locking down of the hard keys by Moto).
The only two things that I miss about the X are the bigger screen, which I really liked, and the fact that Moto's build quality is very good (it always has been), but that is it. I'll never buy another motorola product ever again unless I hear that it is open- and not because I'm some sort of super-dev, either- simply because I get better support from the dev community whose ROMs I run when I have a problem than I've ever gotten from Moto or Verizon.
The X had pretty impressive specs, but it was absolutely weighted down under Blur... SOOOO slow. I didn't even realize how slow it was until I rooted and ROMed it using rubiX, which is truly an awesome ROM considering how locked the X is, but even then it really had a lot of stupid issues (random rebooting, etc.). Then once I found out that I couldn't connect to the 802.1x wifi at my school (a known motorola issue which STILL has yet to be fixed on the DX and D2), it was over.
I've gone DInc and never regretted it.
As far as the screen, I really think that SLCD vs. AMOLED is personal preference. The colors on AMOLED are suuuuper saturated, very "thick" looking to my eyes. I don't mind SLCD screen colors or look at all, but they're definitely toned down compared to AMOLED.
What about the processor speed? Well, both of them have 1gHz processors, and with the current battery technology we have right now, I really wouldn't want much more than a that- anything faster just eats battery, really. I get some lulz from all the spec queens out there who OC their phones to 1.5 and higher, and who have to have the latest dual-core processors- they're going to spend their whole lives plugged in to the wall cuz their batteries won't last 6 hours, and then complain about bad battery life. My 1gHz snapdragon loads pages, flash, and videos from the web with no problem. I've seen the AnandTech reviews about the DX's processor being slightly faster than the DInc's, but then you have to consider Blur and (REALLY) crappy Moto software and bloat (VZW navigator, Visual Voicemail, City ID, etc.) slowing everything down again. My CM7 / ADW EX DInc is hella snappy, and I get through almost 36 hours per charge (HTC Imagio 1700mAh battery) with frequent use. No OC/UCing, totally stock.
I AM looking forward to LTE tho. That should be a real improvement. Anyway, I'm off the soapbox. Hope this helped? I dunno. I'm sittin here drinkin coffee and saw this thread. Good luck.
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EVO 3D & EVO View SPEC LEAK!

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998958
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999008

People don't even look anymore, do they?
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conqu1stador said:
People don't even look anymore, do they?
blah blah effin blah
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I guess no, op it was posted earlier just fyi
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how does this happen? when you click "new thread" and type in a subject xda loads a list of existing threads related to the title you typed??? op, did you not see in that list the overload of the same thread? in the same section? posted the same day?

Sorry. Posted it from my phone, so, you know, search doesn't work worth ****.
Didn't see it in the top 20 topics, so posted away.
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size compare:
orginal evo : 4.8 x 2.6 x .50
evo 3D: 5.0 x 2.6 x .48
new one is thinner but taller...
i would rather the face look smaller..same screen size...
thicker but shorter.

Dan330 said:
size compare:
orginal evo : 4.8 x 2.6 x .50
evo 3D: 5.0 x 2.6 x .48
new one is thinner but taller...
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At least its not wider.
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Dan330 said:
size compare:
orginal evo : 4.8 x 2.6 x .50
evo 3D: 5.0 x 2.6 x .48
new one is thinner but taller...
i would rather the face look smaller..same screen size...
thicker but shorter.
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Better wide screen view, no
Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G

a1platnum said:
Better wide screen view, no
Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
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no.. not the way the measurements say..
new evo is same width and 4.3" screen...
so.. looks like there will be more bezel, because it is taller... more face space.

someone know how to figure out if a 4.5 inch screen would fit in those dimensions? guess it would be Pythagoreans theorem right? i tried to but it is hurting my brain

DomSim said:
someone know how to figure out if a 4.5 inch screen would fit in those dimensions? guess it would be Pythagoreans theorem right? i tried to but it is hurting my brain
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I highly doubt it's going to be a 4.5 inch screen, and I hope it isn't. 4.3 is perfect.

DomSim said:
someone know how to figure out if a 4.5 inch screen would fit in those dimensions? guess it would be Pythagoreans theorem right? i tried to but it is hurting my brain
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yes ... it would

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3#post12234273
lots of confirmed info.. on evo 3d... insider !!!
Well it's hard to believe that it's almost another year but here we are. Seems like yesterday I was working the wee hours of the night to put the fit and finishing touches on the wimax radio/making sure qik would play nice with wimax. Then the gold copying of 4G enabled hotspot during the eleventh hour before sending off to Sprint (Good Times). I felt it was time to chime in again and answer some of the pressing questions about EVO 3d. I would like to first congratulate everyone that has been so critical to EVO’s success in providing information/tips/tricks etc on the Android Forums EVO 4G threads. I know my company has been reading that thread like a religious book since EVO was referred to a Supersonic. Everything that was EVO and is EVO today is being put into what you the fans want in your EVO of tomorrow. Your knowledge and your talent inspired us to create the best EVO (We hope) ever.
Since I am a fan of the site, I want to share with you information that hasn't been released yet and information that I've been given the green light to release to the thread.
Start off by saying it is a "HTC EVO 3D and 4G" and not "LG" Yes gingerbread and something has not been mentioned Sense UI 2.0 Finally when your EVO is propped up on It's kickstand it will automatically go into landscape on all window screens.
The one thing that you guys talked about was full hdmi out. I admit we got robbed on that one. The price you pay for being first. I didn’t have anything to do with that one, but I would admit to be a bit impressed a phone was able to play a movie on a HDTV a year ago. “Orrebmas” your efforts did ping our radar. I am sure you will find nothing but fortunes on the android market with that fine software. Full HDMI will no longer be an issue. We ran it, tested it, on HDTV’s and 3DHDTV’s. Games, google, pictures, 3DPOV, and yes 3d movies all look awesome right out of the box.
Answer one of the more recent questions yes the new EVO will have a kickstand. I guess that was answered up above, but the new kickstand will be beefier and contoured to the back side of the case. The curved kickstand will allow the EVO to stand better at attention if you will. HTC logo will be on the back like the original EVO, but EVO 3D will be lithographed on the kickstand metal as well. Smart move cause with your protective cover on and the phone face down. Nobody could tell what phone it was. Now they will.
I know there was some flak on the recent GLBenchmarks and we caught hell for it around here as well. I just wanted to let you know that fit and finish on that has been polished out. Memory allocation was only single set data stream and we have now been able to utilize duel data stream with a bump in memory clock speeds. I guess you could use the analogy of SDRAM compared to DDRAM.
Scorpion chip set is very OC friendly; I can’t say what we were able to overclock the cpu’s to. Please no question on that one. I can say that we were able to almost double our GLbench scores with just the memory fix though.
The larger battery is the real. I can’t say what the final battery size is though. I can say from 8am to 6pm under stress test no need to plug in.
HTC EVO 3D does have two processors, which everyone here has seen on GLBenchmark site (Who Knew!) Important thing to mention is they take up less real estate then a single snapdragon processor die..Clue on power consumption.
I guess the last one that guys might like to know is that the front facing camera, is not 1.3mp. The one we have in house is 3mp. The back ones can’t be discussed right now, but they do have some cool tricks other than stereoscopic.
I always felt that it would be a cold day in you know what before I turn my EVO over specially after all the customization, ROMS, Tweaking, Benchmarking, and showing my 4.3in screen size to Apples boy like screen size. Update! All those tweaks, they will work on the new EVO with very little effort. Devs can rejoice.
Lastly, the battery form factor is interchangeable, but you are not going to need to though.
I’ll stop in from time to time. I have no clue on release date. I have to admit that one does make me laugh. I remember the original EVO release date was publicly announced and we still had gold work left. It was unlimited OT for almost a month straight. I have to say we did understand what the fans wanted and the time line they wanted it in, but it was/is a product we believed in. I think most can agree we crammed in a good amount fun factor considering it was a year ago. EVO still is one of the finest phones in the market, heck in the world for that matter. I know the same effort is going to be expected by all companies involved this time around too. Please keep putting up your wish list of items, doesn’t mean it’s going to happen, but doesn’t mean we can’t squeeze it in (Somehow) Enjoy the show.
Cheers,
BSOD(>-_0<)

Is the Desire Z/G2 a dying breed of phone - a flagship keyboard phone?

Okay, I posted a very similar thread in the Epic 4G section. I don't often come to this forum.
It seems to me that looking at all of the new releases, with the possible exception of the Motorola Droid series (although it seems the Droid Razr is getting more hype than the Droid 3 did, so it may not even count as a flagship), is the era of flagship physical keyboard phones dead?
Noteworthy to me is the fact that other than the Desire Z (and the Desire HD was arguably the flagship of its time, although IMO the Z was a better phone), there have been no new keyboard flagship phones from HTC or Samsung or most of the smaller makers.
What do you think is the future of keyboard phones?
So far all of them seem to be decidedly mid-range devices, not phones that set the bar, so to speak.

G3. Can't have a google dev phone without a keyboard yet.
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Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
I was a Keyboard Smartphoner from the beginning, but now, I think on the bigger screens its more easier to type fast on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe my next Phone is no more equipped with a hardware keyboard.
first fact for this is the wight and the design.. 180g and 15mm is not so "smart"

kabauterman said:
Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
I was a Keyboard Smartphoner from the beginning, but now, I think on the bigger screens its more easier to type fast on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe my next Phone is no more equipped with a hardware keyboard.
first fact for this is the wight and the design.. 180g and 15mm is not so "smart"
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I wish it would be more "mainstream", have a 720p screen and LTE support. I'll stick with my Desire Z for now.

i don't get the race to the flattest phone in the world, i would say give some extra fat for all those extremely flatty things and slap bigger battery in them.
Desire Z feels like a phone, i like the way its think, not too thick, and im fine whit the weight, people can't carry 200 grams whit em anymore?
There's Droid 4 coming, 5row qwerty, looks promising, hope they include atleast 1,2Ghz cpu. But at this moment i don't think im going to change to a new phone within a year. Ill hope HTC comes up whit 5 row G3.

Whippler said:
i don't get the race to the flattest phone in the world, i would say give some extra fat for all those extremely flatty things and slap bigger battery in them.
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I'm not too big on super thin either -idk what's with this trend.
So far mostly mid-range phones - Glide is a midrange; the Galaxy Note or HTC Rezound are more like top-end.

I personally prefer something a little thicker and heavier in my hands ;D
Jokes aside, the heaviness of the phone gives me the feel of a better build quality, as opposed to the cheap feel of the S II, which my gf has. So light it weighs next to nothing...
feels like the wind can just blow it away...

Yes i hate thin light phones! I want a brick phone damn it! Give me a big screen a good keyboard (im thinking G1 style but full width) and a nice thick heavy battery that will last all day. Oh and i want one of them fancy induction chargers built into the case. And a nice creditcard chip thingy.
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shortlived said:
Yes i hate thin light phones! I want a brick phone damn it! Give me a big screen a good keyboard (im thinking G1 style but full width) and a nice thick heavy battery that will last all day. Oh and i want one of them fancy induction chargers built into the case. And a nice creditcard chip thingy.
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Like a Galaxy Note with a Desire Z style keyboard?

walropodes said:
Like a Galaxy Note with a Desire Z style keyboard?
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OMG that would rock my socks. I wonder, is there maybe a proper sized BT keyboard and a case?
Check Adapt ADK-100 Micro Keyboard (Amazon ASIN B003ZWGEW8) saying it's exactly the size of an iPhone 4. this is a comparison with the HD2: images.mobilityminded.com/2010/07/IMG_4444.jpg
Also discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327124

My opinion is riding a subway,bus etc. Qwerty wins. Physical buttons will always be superior and more versatile/precise.
I do think phones are crafted by trends, had the G2 originally been launched with a tighter spring, this phone would have sold like crazy.
Although I'm happy with my phone as I think its funny when I catch people looking at my phone wondering which one it is or why my screen is green.
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I'll stick with the Z for a long time before I move to something without a keyboard!
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sauron0101 said:
Okay, I posted a very similar thread in the Epic 4G section. I don't often come to this forum.
It seems to me that looking at all of the new releases, with the possible exception of the Motorola Droid series (although it seems the Droid Razr is getting more hype than the Droid 3 did, so it may not even count as a flagship), is the era of flagship physical keyboard phones dead?
Noteworthy to me is the fact that other than the Desire Z (and the Desire HD was arguably the flagship of its time, although IMO the Z was a better phone), there have been no new keyboard flagship phones from HTC or Samsung or most of the smaller makers.
What do you think is the future of keyboard phones?
So far all of them seem to be decidedly mid-range devices, not phones that set the bar, so to speak.
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You seem to have missed the HTC DOUBLESHOT:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...px?cell-phone=T-Mobile-myTouch-4G-Slide-Black

I moved from the Desire to the Desire Z.
To me, a thin keyboard-less phone like the Desire is like an Aston Martin with a 1 litre engine in it. It may look nice but, it's missing the grunt to really get things done (functionality wise rather than cpu!).
With the Desire Z, I can snap open the keyboard and get far more screen real estate without having to have a software keyboard popping up. I can also do common tasks like copying and pasting faster and easily switch apps with shortcuts. I can pretty much touch type on my phone now, while walking for example without looking down.
Of course, we all know this, I just wish the public would realise the advantages of having a keyboard and then manufacturers would make more of an effort. Maybe if we all lectured friends, we can force a tipping point!

kabauterman said:
Samsungs Captivate Glide looks very promising
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/14/samsung-captivate-glide-and-doubletime-hands-on/
but for now just in the US..
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Well and at&t at that. Ugh.

The Glide has already been out in Canada for a couple weeks or so. Although Rogers is just as bad as AT&T probably.

Well, you got me there. Me and my brother enjoy the feel of keyboards on our phones. My G2 came across an lcd problem and my sister got me a G2x, good phone but couldn't enjoy the LG,since I'm an htc guy. Sold it,got a sidekick 4G, didn't like the way samsung made it. Sold that, bought a new LCD, fixed my G2. At the end of the day, I'm a Qwerty keyboard HTC guy. As for my bro, a HTC mytouch guy, he loves the Mytouch Slide 4G. We both came from a G1. I'm praying for the G3. *fingers crossed*
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What I'm hoping for in the next year:
1.2 ghz dual core minimum
5 inch screen (4.5 inch minimum)
Qwerty 3-4 row I don't care
Hdmi out
Not samsung (wii controller won't work)
Must have decent battery life, most liekly ill be buying another fat mugen lol
preferred htc but its not really a big deal to me
Don't care about thick or thin
Honestly the desire z handles everything but the screen size and hdmi out want my n64 on the big screen! I'm hoping for gamecube/dreamcast emulators in the next years. These overclocked dual cores can easily handle it.
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scottmog said:
What I'm hoping for in the next year:
1.2 ghz dual core minimum
5 inch screen (4.5 inch minimum)
Qwerty 3-4 row I don't care
Hdmi out
Not samsung (wii controller won't work)
Must have decent battery life, most liekly ill be buying another fat mugen lol
preferred htc but its not really a big deal to me
Don't care about thick or thin
Honestly the desire z handles everything but the screen size and hdmi out want my n64 on the big screen! I'm hoping for gamecube/dreamcast emulators in the next years. These overclocked dual cores can easily handle it.
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You couldn't PAY me to use a phone with a 5" screen. Screen ***ABSOLUTELY MUST*** be UNDER 4". Any bigger than that and it isn't a phone -- its a tablet, and no, I'm not interested in holding a tablet up to my head to make a phone call.

dhkr234 said:
You couldn't PAY me to use a phone with a 5" screen. Screen ***ABSOLUTELY MUST*** be UNDER 4". Any bigger than that and it isn't a phone -- its a tablet, and no, I'm not interested in holding a tablet up to my head to make a phone call.
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Cool, wasn't really asking for anyones opinion. Some people just don't like big phones, I love big phones and surf the internet and play games quite often. I don't wear tight jeans too lol, so 5 inch phones would not really be to big.
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Goodbye G2, you've been a good phone

Well, I finally went and bought a new phone (sensation). My G2 has been great, I really like it and think it's probably one of the most under-rated phones out there. Rooted and OC'd it's plenty fast for daily use and once rooted it's got a ton of support. I'm not in any way trying to convince anybody to upgrade and ditch their G2, but here are a few differences I've noticed so far (only had it a day):
1. screen size - bigger is definitely nice. I have big fingers and trying to use the G2's virtual keyboard was difficult for me, even with swype. The difference in screen width for the sensation makes it a bit easier.
2. hinge (or no hinge) - it's nice not having to worry about the phone flipping open. I've had my g2 for a year and the hinge has loosened up a good deal, not just open/close motion but it's started to get wobbly side to side as well.
3. speed - even OC'd at 1.4 using either a cm7 rom or sense 2.1 rom my g2 still is only equal to my sensation (currently stock). Once I root and oc the sensation it'll be even faster (I'm assuming).
4. picture quality - here's one thing that surprised me. As far as resolution goes the sensation is better, but for color the g2 actually has it beat. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter on the g2. Not sure if thats a device thing or if its just my 2 individual samples.
Anyway, I thank you all here very much, I never would have been able to root my g2 without this forum. I'm keeping the G and plan on updating it to ICS once it gets developed, looking forward to it

kingston73 said:
Well, I finally went and bought a new phone (sensation). My G2 has been great, I really like it and think it's probably one of the most under-rated phones out there. Rooted and OC'd it's plenty fast for daily use and once rooted it's got a ton of support. I'm not in any way trying to convince anybody to upgrade and ditch their G2, but here are a few differences I've noticed so far (only had it a day):
1. screen size - bigger is definitely nice. I have big fingers and trying to use the G2's virtual keyboard was difficult for me, even with swype. The difference in screen width for the sensation makes it a bit easier.
2. hinge (or no hinge) - it's nice not having to worry about the phone flipping open. I've had my g2 for a year and the hinge has loosened up a good deal, not just open/close motion but it's started to get wobbly side to side as well.
3. speed - even OC'd at 1.4 using either a cm7 rom or sense 2.1 rom my g2 still is only equal to my sensation (currently stock). Once I root and oc the sensation it'll be even faster (I'm assuming).
4. picture quality - here's one thing that surprised me. As far as resolution goes the sensation is better, but for color the g2 actually has it beat. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter on the g2. Not sure if thats a device thing or if its just my 2 individual samples.
Anyway, I thank you all here very much, I never would have been able to root my g2 without this forum. I'm keeping the G and plan on updating it to ICS once it gets developed, looking forward to it
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CONGRATS on your new sensation!
i'm commenting about number 4... the picture quality... its all about screen density, because the sensation's screen is bigger, screen density is smaller... so pixels will be larger, and will have more space, but they are relatively out numbered...
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CONGRATS on your new sensation!
i'm commenting about number 4... the picture quality... its all about screen density, because the sensation's screen is bigger, screen density is smaller... so pixels will be larger, and will have more space, but they are relatively out numbered...
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You forget that the Sensation also has a higher resolution screen, not just bigger..

Since you're moving your G2 over to backup duty, would you consider doing a spring swap? That might help. I know that after over 6 months the spring linked in Jchap's guide has held up admirably for me.
The Sensation is an excellent phone. Were I to get a near current candybar that or the Amaze 4g would be the ones I'd have a tough time mulling over.
I know that the day I retire my G2 to an mp3 and web browsing device will be a sad day. But then, putting a device out to pasture is usually well earned. Electronics that survive our daily abuse for years and still continues to function deserves respect and thanks.

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You forget that the Sensation also has a higher resolution screen, not just bigger..
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actually, the "stretched" the screen, but didn't quite give it a good res... res is higher than dz, but not they could make it even higher, and still fit the cell...

I find this phone difficult to get rid of, at least for me. Today's phones have yet to surpass the G2 as a worthy upgrade but nonethless we all have to upgrade sooner or later. Glad you found yourself a phone to keep for months time.
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ampdj89 said:
I find this phone difficult to get rid of, at least for me. Today's phones have yet to surpass the G2 as a worthy upgrade but nonethless we all have to upgrade sooner or later.
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I think I have to agree with you on that. I swap handsets quite often and this is one of the longest I've held onto one. The battery is tollerable. The keyboard great and it can handle high clock speeds with the latest rom tech.
Good luck with the sensation.
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I will also be moving over to the Sensation forum in a weeks time... :-(
I've enjoyed this phone and still do, but I feel as though the time has come for a change... The hw keyboard will be missed and so will the dev-forum of the G2/DZ community... I could not have wished for a better place to learn the do's and dont's about rooting, flashing and buffing up my phone...
So a big 'thank you' to everyone out there for helping me to see that my phone is not simply a phone!
Cheers!

I want one... anyone had a One S?

I really really like this phone, I think it's amazing for the price, but I'm just curious as to how much bigger it will be (more importantly, feel) compared to my One S?
I LOVE how thin the One S is, and think it's pretty much the perfect size, but I would like to have the latest updates from Google, quad core, etc.. and the screen is a little bigger and higher res (although would be nice if it was proper 16:9) plus it would go well with my Nexus 7
I'm thinking about selling my One S and getting an N4 directly from Google when they get more in stock (delivered before 2014 preferably) but all the comparison videos I can find are between the N4 and One X
Also, how is the back of it in real life, does it look girly/glittery at all?
Thanks

I dont have a N4 but got to play with my friends,
The One S is WAY thinner and more comfortable in hand compared to a wide 4.7" N4.
I think 4.3" is perfect in the hand, easy to reach the corners.
the HD display and Quad-core is something most cant pass on tho.

I was a previous One S user but I can say that the Nexus was a good upgrade for a phone. Mainly because I wanted a better battery life. Although it is not thin like the One S it does provide a nice weight and thickness to hold. I don't even have big hands and was able to use it with ease. The design on the back is only visible with the correct angle of light. I would say it is not the girly/glittery as you might think. It takes a bit of an adjustment to get used to it. If a T-mobile store has a Nexus 4 on display, you should check it out for yourself.

spec for spec the N4 is obviously a clear winner. However, even thoguh I have never owned a One S I have been a huge fan of it since it was released. I love how thin/slim the phone is. If I could get the N4 specs in the size of the One S it would be the perfect phone IMO.
With all that said, if I were you I would make the upgrade to the N4. It is the best phone I've ever owned.

I just came from a TMO One S to the N4. The One S was my first HTC and it's a solid phone. What I like about the N4 is the bigger screen, having the latest AOSP, and the flexibility of a totally unlocked phone. I use my phone for a lot of reading and the bigger screen makes a huge difference. What I miss about the One S is the great camera (the N4 is still pretty good), the compact size and, believe it or not, I actually liked Sense. One feature I REALLY miss is the ability to view a calendar event from the phone dialer (I do a lot of conference calls); and I can't seem to replicate this with any combination of software. Overall, I think the N4 is more future proof and a great value at the current price.
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Thanks everyone
murse said:
I just came from a TMO One S to the N4. The One S was my first HTC and it's a solid phone. What I like about the N4 is the bigger screen, having the latest AOSP, and the flexibility of a totally unlocked phone. I use my phone for a lot of reading and the bigger screen makes a huge difference. What I miss about the One S is the great camera (the N4 is still pretty good), the compact size and, believe it or not, I actually liked Sense. One feature I REALLY miss is the ability to view a calendar event from the phone dialer (I do a lot of conference calls); and I can't seem to replicate this with any combination of software. Overall, I think the N4 is more future proof and a great value at the current price.
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Ah, that's another thing I think I may miss... I love Sense as well
Does the phone feel snappier without the "bloat" of Sense though? How are standard Android widgets?
Think I may hold onto my One S and see what else comes out. Nexus 4 just seems to be AMAZING for the price, but I'm guessing the next one will be reasonably priced as well?
Thanks

LooieENG said:
Thanks everyone
Ah, that's another thing I think I may miss... I love Sense as well
Does the phone feel snappier without the "bloat" of Sense though? How are standard Android widgets?
Think I may hold onto my One S and see what else comes out. Nexus 4 just seems to be AMAZING for the price, but I'm guessing the next one will be reasonably priced as well?
Thanks
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My wife has the One S and it seems like a great phone. If there is nothing about it that you especially dislike, I say keep it. The N4 is great but its not a huge upgrade especially if you like Sense.

mattb3 said:
My wife has the One S and it seems like a great phone. If there is nothing about it that you especially dislike, I say keep it. The N4 is great but its not a huge upgrade especially if you like Sense.
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Yeah, I'm gonna keep it I think. Need to see what HTC bring out next, or the Nexus 4 2 (anything more than 4" screen is too big for a phone IMO)
I used to love HTC because vanilla Android was ugly, but now (as great as HTC Sense looks) Android 4 looks amazing imo

LooieENG said:
Yeah, I'm gonna keep it I think. Need to see what HTC bring out next, or the Nexus 4 2 (anything more than 4" screen is too big for a phone IMO)
I used to love HTC because vanilla Android was ugly, but now (as great as HTC Sense looks) Android 4 looks amazing imo
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Nah 4.7 is definitely a good size. 4" is too small for my likings. Don't judge a screen size unless you tried it for at least 2-3 weeks imo.

zephiK said:
Nah 4.7 is definitely a good size. 4" is too small for my likings. Don't judge a screen size unless you tried it for at least 2-3 weeks imo.
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Oh yeah... mine is 4.3
What I meant tho, is that I don't like anything over 4.x (i.e. the 5.3 Samsung Note, etc..)
That's why I hope there's a Nexus 4 2, not a Nexus 5