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Who else wants the Galaxy S to come to sprint also?

I would much rather have the Epic without the keyboard. When I switched from my mogul to my hero I thought dropping a keyboard would be hard, but it wasn't. Also the Galaxy S is SUPER thin, about as thin as the Iphone 4.
Anyone else on the same boat?
If they don't get the Galaxy S I'd probably just go with the epic.
For those wondering the Galaxy S has no keyboard (like the tmobile vibrant, it's also under 10mm thin) the Galaxy S pro (which is the Epic 4g has a keyboard).

Perhaps you can get the Verizon version working on Sprint. I've read that the retail on these devices is below $500.
But honestly, even if you do not use the keyboard, the added thickness is not that bad. This coming from a person who has a TouchPro2 and never used the physical keyboard.

chococrazy said:
I would much rather have the Epic without the keyboard. When I switched from my mogul to my hero I thought dropping a keyboard would be hard, but it wasn't. Also the Galaxy S is SUPER thin, about as thin as the Iphone 4.
Anyone else on the same boat?
If they don't get the Galaxy S I'd probably just go with the epic.
For those wondering the Galaxy S has no keyboard (like the tmobile vibrant, it's also under 10mm thin) the Galaxy S pro (which is the Epic 4g has a keyboard).
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The Epic 4G is a Galaxy S phone lol

Pops_G said:
Perhaps you can get the Verizon version working on Sprint. I've read that the retail on these devices is below $500.
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Will not happen (legally). Sprint and Verizon absolutely will not activate each others phones.

s84471 said:
The Epic 4G is a Galaxy S phone lol
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But it is totally different from all of the other Galaxy S variants. It was fairly obvious what he meant.
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TheBiles said:
But it is totally different from all of the other Galaxy S variants. It was fairly obvious what he meant.
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You're right, it's way better, full qwerty for those who want it, swype still installed for those who don't, 4G radio and a flash, yet still slim enough to contend with the likes of the Evo and such, oh wait who on earth wants anything OTHER than an Epic? lol

Sebrina said:
You're right, it's way better, full qwerty for those who want it, swype still installed for those who don't, 4G radio and a flash, yet still slim enough to contend with the likes of the Evo and such, oh wait who on earth wants anything OTHER than an Epic? lol
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Well, besides the OP, me! I don't like hardware keyboards or the bulk that they bring. I would love to try out something as thin as the standard Galaxy S. I couldn't see myself ever typing with the hardware keyboard, so it would be a total waste.
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TheBiles said:
Well, besides the OP, me! I don't like hardware keyboards or the bulk that they bring. I would love to try out something as thin as the standard Galaxy S. I couldn't see myself ever typing with the hardware keyboard, so it would be a total waste.
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Ignore the hardware keyboard as I'm going to do and you have an Evo on steroids with a gorgeous screen. I don't do hardware keyboards either, but thick? It's about a quarter fingernail thicker than an Evo and 3x the phone the Evo will ever be without the help of any developer (you can't patch hardware). With custom ROMs this phone has the potencial to be the best "superphone" in the game until well into the end of the year and looking at how fast the smartphone market is moving that's saying alot.

Display-wise, this is going to be king of the hill until someone figures out how to get a Retina-quality IPS display on their phones. I would take Retina over Super AMOLED, but Samsung has a monopoly on Super AMOLED for quite a while into the future, and hteir phones are going to be the only ones that have it. I don't know if any other company is going to be able to get an IPS LCD that is as good as Apples while also being 4+" in size. For one thing, they will be very expensive and will probably experience shortages as all the different manufacturers clamor for them.
As for the CPU, the GS might get beat in the Spring, but not before then, and these processors are going to be pretty power hungry and more expensive to manufacture.
A new "superphone" with a 4" 300dpi IPS display and a dual core snapdragon will be big, expensive and power hungry. Basically, not something I would want to buy.
I am curious to see whether 28nm phone processors will be available by next summer, and whether Apple will be able to use one in the next iPhone. Something tells me they will just use another 45nm CPU and not bother to upgrade their A4 much at all.
Edit: Global Foundries will probably not be manufacturing at 28nm until 2012, which probably means that I am right about Apple not doing much with the next iPhone CPU.
Or maybe not. TSMC is supposed to be shipping 28nm right about now, designed for mobile applications.

Sebrina said:
Ignore the hardware keyboard as I'm going to do and you have an Evo on steroids with a gorgeous screen. I don't do hardware keyboards either, but thick? It's about a quarter fingernail thicker than an Evo and 3x the phone the Evo will ever be without the help of any developer (you can't patch hardware). With custom ROMs this phone has the potencial to be the best "superphone" in the game until well into the end of the year and looking at how fast the smartphone market is moving that's saying alot.
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Sorry, it's hard for me to just ignore a large hardware component that actually affects the size and shape of the device. Especially when I know that without it the phone could be much thinner.
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TheBiles said:
Sorry, it's hard for me to just ignore a large hardware component that actually affects the size and shape of the device. Especially when I know that without it the phone could be much thinner.
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You're right that's why I returned my Evo it's much longer and wider than the Galaxy S is thicker than the Evo, just didn't feel good in the hand that's partially the reason I returned my Evo, well that compounded with the Evo's bad hardware.

The keyboard is the best part for me. I can't wait.

Thinking of trading the Desire Z for the Desire S.. should I?

I have had the desire Z for 2 months now.. love it really.
Except a few things..:
1) it's weight.. this is just the biggest turn-off for me. I like traveling lightweight and I thought I'd get used to it but right now I really just prefer a lighter phone..
2) Do i really need the keyboard? it feels good to use the keyboard to type, yes, but there are times where I tried the onscreen keyboard and it worked too, and I don't think I was much slower.
3) The hinge just feels too loose.. makes the device feel cheap. I dont like having the feeling that my front screen will fall out anytime.
4) No frontfacing camera. I will be traveling abroad next semester, and the option to be able to see my family while I'm outside is nice.
Now there are things I really like and will miss if I trade this phone in:
1) the trackpad. I just love it! I use it to wake up my phone now. I use it to slide across my screens on launcherpro just because it's so fun. I really am thinking of keep it just for the safe of the trackpad. I also find the trackpad to be the easiest button for picture taking.
2) the keyboard allows you to see the screen while inputting, instead of the white input screen.
3) camera button for quick access to camera!
Well i'm currently still deciding.. the lightweight desire S is really attractive to me right now.. but I want the trackpad so bad.. sigh.. anyone here experienced how moving away from this phone is like?

I have thought about this as well, I really like the look and feel of the desire s. But and its a big but, I wouldn't only get one when the bootloader has been cracked. I don't like sense very much, so cm7 or another aosp build is a must for me.
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Well it is a more powerful phone, and it looks like it may meet more of your needs.
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Ya Trade it.
If keyboard is not important then get the Desire S.
I hate how heavy my Desire Z is with 1800 battery but i need keyboard....

thunder9111 said:
I have had the desire Z for 2 months now.. love it really.
Except a few things..:
1) it's weight.. this is just the biggest turn-off for me. I like traveling lightweight and I thought I'd get used to it but right now I really just prefer a lighter phone..
2) Do i really need the keyboard? it feels good to use the keyboard to type, yes, but there are times where I tried the onscreen keyboard and it worked too, and I don't think I was much slower.
3) The hinge just feels too loose.. makes the device feel cheap. I dont like having the feeling that my front screen will fall out anytime.
4) No frontfacing camera. I will be traveling abroad next semester, and the option to be able to see my family while I'm outside is nice.
Now there are things I really like and will miss if I trade this phone in:
1) the trackpad. I just love it! I use it to wake up my phone now. I use it to slide across my screens on launcherpro just because it's so fun. I really am thinking of keep it just for the safe of the trackpad. I also find the trackpad to be the easiest button for picture taking.
2) the keyboard allows you to see the screen while inputting, instead of the white input screen.
3) camera button for quick access to camera!
Well i'm currently still deciding.. the lightweight desire S is really attractive to me right now.. but I want the trackpad so bad.. sigh.. anyone here experienced how moving away from this phone is like?
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I will answer your question, how does it feel moving away from this phone? - Miserable - Simple one word... Well... I haven't 100% moved away from my G2/DZ, I just needed one thing which this phone doesn't have, a Front Facing Camera, it was more important to me than to have a physical keyboard... and hence I purchased Moto Atrix. Great phone and all the goodies as higher res screen, dual core processor, etc... but nothing as much fun as owning a G2/DZ.
You can mod your G2/DZ, you get the sturdy and rock solid feel holding this phone in your hand, you have the DLNA support and also you can OverClock your phone...
I don't know how Desire S really feels so no comments.
If you don'r really like the heft, you don't really need the keyboard, go for any other phone, I am sure all the new phone have some or the other advantage over G2/DZ.
Note : Since I love this phone too much, i haven't let it go, i have it as my other phone, which I don't carry with me, but I usually play with my phone as soon as I get home... it becomes primary

GF's Desire S is a nice piece of kit. If you don't want a keyboard, I'd trade it. it's definitely zippier. Not enough to make me want to upgrade out of contract, though.

How about the htc sensation... that looks nice its a bit bigger though lol

I'm not sure if I can wait that long for the sensation though
Plus even the desire Z's cpu has been enough for my needs.. I don't really know why i would need duo-core.. unless it improves the battery dramatically which will be a different story.
Today I will meet someone who may want to buy my desire Z.
If it's sold today then I shall move to the next phone. If not, then I'll just keep it.
Just wish it was a bit lighter..

Getting a Desire S is, with all due respect, a pretty bad idea unless you can get it for very cheap.
I can understand your reasons for disliking the DZ, but the DS has nearly identical specs and there has been a big leap in processing power, especially now with the SGS2's Exynos processor which is a huge step up from the DZ's MSM7230.
The DS's specs were antiquated when it was released. If thos matters to you, you might want to look elsewhere

ive always been told if your gonna do something, do it right dont go and buy the desire s on a whim when the sensation is just around the corner lol
id save my money, keep the desire z if theres nothing wrong with it and when the sensation does come out, try it out before you buy it, if you dont like it then go for the desire s... the desire s will be cheaper then as well... so its win win

Yeah, Sensation is supposed to be out this or the next month, and even though I would say Desire S is a great phone and a viable replacement I would do at least, Sensation going retail in so short timespan is rendering it obsolete. Furthermore, I can hardly imagine that Desire S will get the developers attention here as Desire did as most of them already bought DHD. Sensation might end up with load of awesomeness though
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no doubt about the sensation getting development.... i reckon the development around it will be somewhat like the htc hd2... which is also an amazing phone.
when htc make a huge deal over a phone, it usually means the developers are all over the phone. htc hd2, hd2 desire, htc desire hd, and the sensation lol

Phone envy..

Just played with a work colleague's Galaxy S2 and now my Vision feels like the fat ugly friend you see standing with the tall hot chick in a nightclub
That phone is properly awesome...
I cannot live without a physical keyboard so I don't have the option of getting one, sadly.
Please say some stuff to make me feel better about my phone?
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Consider it an evil of the technology treadmill. A newer product is typically going to be faster and better than an older one (unless the manufacturer really screwed up!). You'll drive yourself crazy envying every new phone that comes along that is newer than what you have. So unless you have wads of cash to buy every nice looking phone that comes out, most of us have to make a decision based on the choices you have at the time you want to upgrade, and live with it until you can afford the next upgrade. No doubt, even if you bought a Galxy S2, you would end up salivating the next "latest and greatest" in a few months. Appreciate the fact that you have a nice performing, solidly built phone with a hardware keyboard, that has (and will continue to have, for some time) great developer support.

Ya my roommate just got the g2x and now I hate my phone.
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I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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setspeed said:
I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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I hear you about the direct sunlight. That absolutely blows. Someone wants to trade me the nexus s and I would be all down for it except the no keyboard and few other quirks like no sd card.
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And a 4"+ screen
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setspeed said:
And a 4"+ screen
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I know i'm in the minority on this one but screens can be too big. HD7 for example. Just looks gaudy and over the top to me.

xsteven77x said:
I know i'm in the minority on this one but screens can be too big. HD7 for example. Just looks gaudy and over the top to me.
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I'm with you 4.3" is to big. My bro has a DHD and I find it uncomfortable to use.
My boss just got SGS2 and I have to admit I'm a bit jealous because it is awesome. But I can't see my self ever having a phone without a hardware keyboard so the S2 is a no go for me. I'm certain my next phone will be the successor to the G2, assuming that HTC backtrack on the whole bootloader thing.
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cjward23 said:
I'm with you 4.3" is to big. My bro has a DHD and I find it uncomfortable to use.
My boss just got SGS2 and I have to admit I'm a bit jealous because it is awesome. But I can't see my self ever having a phone without a hardware keyboard so the S2 is a no go for me. I'm certain my next phone will be the successor to the G2, assuming that HTC backtrack on the whole bootloader thing.
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I hear you about the boatloader. That is a dam shame any way you look at it.

I am not envy of any other phone that does not have a hardware keyboard!

If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
[G2/HTC Vision]

luis86dr said:
If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones. They refuse to die. Specially g2 at 1.5ghz. It can still compete. Developers support is do big as compared to some other phones. Htc all the way. Hoping for unlocked bootloader on the sensation.

havikx said:
Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones.
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Indeed. My Z can do anyting I need from a phone including playing ps1 games and map keys to play with. What more can I ask for. I will never give it up unless there will be a new powerful mobile with hardware keyboard, which is layed out the same way as the Z keyboard where every other row is shifted.

havikx said:
Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones. They refuse to die. Specially g2 at 1.5ghz. It can still compete. Developers support is do big as compared to some other phones. Htc all the way. Hoping for unlocked bootloader on the sensation.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself sir! I absoletly love my phone and I have yet to be envious of any phone since getting mine back in Nov. Love the rom I'm using and couldn't see myself using any other.
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I had an HD2 for ages, an S2 for a few days (then sold it because I could make £160 profit on e-bay due to people paying silly prices!), now I've just ordered a desire Z to give it a go (£263.39 on ebuyer inc VAT)!
Though the S2 was nice & the HD2 does the job, I'm now much more excited about having a hardware keyboard than anything the S2 had to offer!
Unless you dislike hardware keyboards, I agree there's no point having phone envy yet - the S2 does nothing that the HD2/Desire Z can do; it just does things more smoothly!

I would agree that there are phones out there that might be 'prettier' and provide some 'eye candy' but I don't think I would trade my DZ for any other device out there right now.
I too cannot live without a hardware keyboard and the DZ has one of the best keyboards I have ever used. It took some getting used to because of its size, but after that initial period, a keyboard has never felt better in my hands.
And while it may not have the fastest Dual Core Processor on the market, I have yet to find any set of tasks that my DZ can't handle. Throw in the unlocked bootloader and arguably the best developer support of any Android Device and you have a recipe for a long-lasting, competitive smartphone.
I won't even consider upgrading until we get a phone that looks like a 'G3'...

i work at best buy and i see this same situation almost everyday. technology is a love hate thing. you just have to realize that its going to be constantly changing, and getting better. lets not forget that the vision is still a highend phone, and kicks alot of phones asses. i love my g2, but i do see myself getting a htc sensation. ive come to realize that although the kb on the vision is amazing, its not something i have to have. the vision is a great phone, along with the desire hd, nexus s, mytouch 4g and all of the phones that came out the same time this one did. its awesome. you just have to realize that if it does what you want with no problem, then why hate?

PatrickHuey said:
i work at best buy and i see this same situation almost everyday. technology is a love hate thing. you just have to realize that its going to be constantly changing, and getting better. lets not forget that the vision is still a highend phone, and kicks alot of phones asses. i love my g2, but i do see myself getting a htc sensation. ive come to realize that although the kb on the vision is amazing, its not something i have to have. the vision is a great phone, along with the desire hd, nexus s, mytouch 4g and all of the phones that came out the same time this one did. its awesome. you just have to realize that if it does what you want with no problem, then why hate?
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I'd have to disagree with the fact the Vision is high end any more. On release yes, but 6mths down the road it's only just mid-range in pretty much all areas EXCEPT the keyboard. Single core chip (albeit a reasonable one), 512mb RAM (really? The DHD had 768mb), an average 5mp camera...
I think we make a lot of excuses for this phone, just to have the keyboard. I had to think long and hard about keeping my second one because of the questionable z-hinge, and decided that I'd have to live with it since there were no other qwertys coming out (except the Droid 2/Milestone 2 which is a no-no with encrypted bootloader).
I hate the weight of the thing, I hate the battery life (which although better than my old Desire, is still pretty poor as I work in a weak 3G area), I hate the fact I struggle to see the screen in the sunlight, I hate the sh*t-arse weak speaker which struggles to get above one decibel without distorting, and I hate the fact that HTC always cheap out on cameras, the video-recording is crap.
People come to me at work and ask what phone they should buy cos I'm kind of that guy who knows a little bit. And they've all seen the recent HTC marketing campaign here in the UK, they're like "Oh you have an HTC, do you think I should get this HTC (model)?" And I find myself saying "No, get this Samsung, or get this iPhone, they have better features that you would get use out of".
I know I'm not at the point where I want to give up the awesome dev support that HTC phones usually get, but I am at the point where I hope devs start supporting other brands a lot more too. Especially in light of HTCs locking of bootloaders, and the fact it's getting harder and harder to get full access to them. HTC has the big rep as the hacker's choice, but I don't think their hardware justifies it any more. Not at the moment at least.
Don't get me wrong, there is no other phone I'd rather have at the moment, since one doesn't exist. And the rom I'm on is frigging amazing. But if Samsung bring out an S2 with a keyboard then I'd have a heard time saying no to that, as would a lot of other people I imagine. I never thought I'd consider a Samsung after last year's update debacle, and I'm still hesitant now. But if enough devs get one, then they would sort out any probs the phone has.
OK, rant over!

I just watched an unboxing of the HTC Sensation coming to Tmobile ... GODDAMN .. that is a thing of beauty..

setspeed said:
I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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While this is true and all, I still think our phones are the best overall hardware for someone who needs a physical keyboard like myself. There are plenty of physical keyboard models out there (not as many as touch only of course), and there is still yet one to come out with better overall specs than this phone.
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If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
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Yep, and that's the BIGGEST problem with Samsuck. They tend to make pretty incredible hardware (minus the vibrant, who the heck makes a camera without a flash nowadays?), but their support is absolutely abysmal. A friend here at work has an Epic 4G, and he's STILL on Eclair. Absolutely unacceptable support.

Things I should know before buying a G2?

I'm looking to buy a g2.
Firstly, Is there anything that I should look for? Are there specific versions that are easier to root than others/ harder to brick? (I'm coming from a vibrant and they made a bad batch of those that couldn't get into the recovery, so I want to know if there are any similar issues to be wary of)
Second, do you long time owners recommend the G2? Is it a good phone or should I wait for something else/go for a mt4gs?
Thanks in advance.

gonintendo said:
I'm looking to buy a g2.
Firstly, Is there anything that I should look for? Are there specific versions that are easier to root than others/ harder to brick? (I'm coming from a vibrant and they made a bad batch of those that couldn't get into the recovery, so I want to know if there are any similar issues to be wary of)
Second, do you long time owners recommend the G2? Is it a good phone or should I wait for something else/go for a mt4gs?
Thanks in advance.
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well if you buy one that is running froyo instead of gingerbread, it will be easier root. i would also say if ur looking for a android qwerty slider, then i recommend the droid 3, but if you can get past the uglyness of the mt4gs then thats not a bad option either. the dz is getting pretty old now

evilcuber said:
well if you buy one that is running froyo instead of gingerbread, it will be easier root. i would also say if ur looking for a android qwerty slider, then i recommend the droid 3, but if you can get past the uglyness of the mt4gs then thats not a bad option either. the dz is getting pretty old now
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Stuck on t-mobile . Idk if I could live with sense on the mt4gs to be honest, and it seems like CM7 isn't coming to it anytime soon.
I think I might just tough it out with my vibrant.

You're arriving kinda late to the game, aren't you? The G2 has been end-of-life'd if I remember correctly.
But it looks like you're in luck as T-Mo is about to drop the price on the G2.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/09/t-mobile-drops-the-prices-of-the-t-mobile-g2-g-slate/

G2 is a good buy get it wit Froyo n ur good to go everyday I enjoy it rooted 2.3.5 and long as u flash different roms n boot animation wit music everyday is like X-Mas. I turned my G2 to a Monster. I even snatched sum of the new Bionic stuff onto my G2 now n my boy with the new Bionic is jealous. Listen this Bad boy was built to modify n customize I can't see u nt liking it.
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G2 is a robust, highly customizable phone. I highly recommend it.
T-Mobile G2 | meXdroidMod Ghost Chilli AIO

Its a solid phone. But as others have mentioned, its getting pretty old. Getting close to a year old, which is ancient in smartphone terms. Unless you get a real good deal on one, or a hardware keyboard is an absolute necessity (G2/Desire Z is still probably the best around with a keyboard), I would spend my money on something with more current specs (CPU, memory, etc.).

You might like to know that the HTC Desire Z / T-mobile G2 is very similar to the Desire S.
Difference is that the Z has the qwerty keyboard and the S doesn't.
(Also, the S is stock clocked at 1GHz and Z is only 800MHz, but it is the same chipset so this can be changed with software).
The LCD, touch screen, gadgets and everything is the same.
The S is lighter and slimmer, also looks better.
If you get over the qwerty keyboard you might prefer the S.
The touch screen is very good and I often use it instead of the physical keyboard on my Z.
Also, even though the physical keyboard is good i cant type that fast. Not as fast as on a blackberry (keys are closer together on most blackberrys).
Some people have issues with the hinge and it's hard to replace.
Personally, I would swap my Z for an S right now. But they are both excellent devices and both **** on an iPhone4 for screen quality, call quality and build quality.
Screen is really good for watching videos, colors are so much nicer than on other devices like iPhone4 or Desire HD. It has a noise cancellation mic that makes voice chat sound really good and I have never had a drop out in the 6 months I've had it. It has a metal chassis and is very strong, dropped it plenty of times and it just scratches never breaks. Digitalizer is plastic so won't crack.
2nd hand, you can pick up a Z for about $250 or S for $300 - ish.

OP, really going to have to agree this device is too old at this point. Almost a year old now so I wouldn't buy one unless I got a damn good deal on it used. Plenty of other great phones out there right now.

It is a year old yet still one of the top performing single core phones on the market. If you can get one for $200 or less with no contract bs then I would say go for it. This phone still goes on ebay used for $150+
Know that finding a good case is tough with this style of phone....I recommend the otter box personally. Their warranty is top notch as well.
I also recommend doing the spring replacement to tighten up the hinge. Ever since I did that little mod, I have been more than pleased with my G2. I have had mine for 8 months and I can honestly say I could care less about upgrading my phone anytime soon because this phone does everything I need it to do and it does it quick enough for me.
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Siddy1200 said:
You might like to know that the HTC Desire Z / T-mobile G2 is very similar to the Desire S.
Difference is that the Z has the qwerty keyboard and the S doesn't.
(Also, the S is stock clocked at 1GHz and Z is only 800MHz, but it is the same chipset so this can be changed with software).
The LCD, touch screen, gadgets and everything is the same.
The S is lighter and slimmer, also looks better.
If you get over the qwerty keyboard you might prefer the S.
The touch screen is very good and I often use it instead of the physical keyboard on my Z.
Also, even though the physical keyboard is good i cant type that fast. Not as fast as on a blackberry (keys are closer together on most blackberrys).
Some people have issues with the hinge and it's hard to replace.
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Desire S and Z are not the same chipset. Z has the Snapdragon MSM7230, and the S has the MSM8255. And there is also a big difference in the MHz rating of a CPU, and simply overclocking it.
Also the S has 768 Mb of memory versus 512 Mb on the Z; the S has a 1450 mAh battery versus 1300 mAh on the Z; the S has no trackpad but it does have a front facing camera. Really, there is not that much the same between the two phones besides the screen size.
IMO, the hinge "issue" is totally overblown. The hinge is designed to be easy to open and close with a light touch. Some people don't like it, and its just a personal preference.

Desire Z/Vision/G2 - Successor

What do you want to see if HTC bring out a hardware keyboard phone? Also names and any news.
Personal I would want qHD screen, terga 3 CPU, + GPU, 4G, sense/ics 4.0?, better speakers, 1900 mha battery, 16GB on broad memory, 2GB RAM,
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QWERTY keyboard phones are unfortunately out of style nowadays. Moto Droid/Milestone is pretty much the only keyboard phone series with modern specs available at least over here. Samsung Captivate Glide seems intriguing with its dual core CPU and AMOLED display but it's US only.
If you are really looking for Sense, it's unfortunate that there are no rumors or leaks or anything about a HTC QWERTY flagship.

user032 said:
QWERTY keyboard phones are unfortunately out of style nowadays.
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So says you. Although declining, Blackberries still sell and I refuse to buy anything that does not have a physical QWERTY keyboard.

user032 said:
QWERTY keyboard phones are unfortunately out of style nowadays. Moto Droid/Milestone is pretty much the only keyboard phone series with modern specs available at least over here. Samsung Captivate Glide seems intriguing with its dual core CPU and AMOLED display but it's US only.
If you are really looking for Sense, it's unfortunate that there are no rumors or leaks or anything about a HTC QWERTY flagship.
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That's not true. There clearly are people out there eagerly waiting for new QWERTY-phones, otherwise e.g. Sony Ericsson wouldn't sell Xperia pro and Mini pro etc. Nokia has released a few phones with QWERTY keyboard and as you said Motorola has Droids too.
Does anyone know how many Visions has been sold? HTC has always made qwerty-phones, I can't see any reason why they should stop now.

A QWERTY Nexus would be nice - death to Sense. When I owned a Desire Z rooting and going to an AOSP Gingerbread DOUBLED my battery life.
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I would like to see more internal memory, better speakers, a better screen and I would like to see them keep the touch sensitive "trackball" button at the bottom of the phone!

to me, the only thing that matters is to make the soft buttons as hardware buttons, not the irritating touch
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I'd love a 1080p screen, gorilla glass, tegra 3, 64gb internal, ICS of course, 4G, an INSANE camera, and no matter the mah a battery to hold it all together for 14+ hours at heavy use.
But that's just me.
let me not forget to say vanilla android!

mintaeroboy said:
What do you want to see if HTC bring out a hardware keyboard phone? Also names and any news.
Personal I would want qHD screen, terga 3 CPU, + GPU, 4G, sense/ics 4.0?, better speakers, 1900 mha battery, 16GB on broad memory, 2GB RAM,
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4.0" 720p screen, Qualcomm krait + adreno 225, pentaband 3g, AOSP ICS, 2GB ram, 16GB ROM + SD card, 5 row QWERTY with directional keys or D-pad, dedicated camera button, metal back cover with release lever.
hey, I can dream right?

I want an HTC device, built as solid and of as good quality as this one with updated Rezound like features. Not going to happen though, HTC has successfully grabbed a large portion of the market due to their past quality and has since shifted from quality to quantity.

does the HTC Mytouch 4G Slide come 2 mind?

riahc3 said:
So says you. Although declining, Blackberries still sell and I refuse to buy anything that does not have a physical QWERTY keyboard.
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It's not my personal opinion, just look at the current phone market with slates everywhere. For one, I'd love a powerful QWERTY smartphone to replace my current primary phone GSII, which was by the way the first non-keyboard one.
eGetin said:
That's not true. There clearly are people out there eagerly waiting for new QWERTY-phones, otherwise e.g. Sony Ericsson wouldn't sell Xperia pro and Mini pro etc. Nokia has released a few phones with QWERTY keyboard and as you said Motorola has Droids too.
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Aren't most of these are mid-range phones with the exception of Droid?

At least I'm not the only one that feels a bit lonely out here.
Android phones are being pumped out by the dozen, but there are very few QWERTY phones in the mix. I could probably count them all on one hand. Everyone uses either a GSM or CDMA network, so your options are halved right there as well
The only quality phones I have seen maybe worth trading my G2 in for, are the MyTouch 4G Slide and the Samsung Captivate Glide.
But they are still fairly new phones with no CM support yet....
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to me, the only thing that matters is to make the soft buttons as hardware buttons, not the irritating touch
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If that's what you want, then the 4G Slide is your only option. It's one of the only phones that still retains hardware keys.
I actually prefer hardware keys as well. But the 4G Slide wasn't out at the time, and I needed a little more horsepower than the 3G Slide I was carrying...

Damnit! this is just wishful thinking lol! I thought there was some news of the G3/Desire Super Z or something Didn't we already have a wish list thread for the next big HTC qwerty model?
I do wonder about when it will happen. In tech terms, our great Desire Z/G2 is extremely antiquated. It does seem to be taking too long but the same happened with the G1. The only decent option I've seen is the MT4GS and that only a US model. Can't really compare a Samsung model because they are junk compared to their flagship models like the Galaxy line.
Even those... I'm hardly interested in those. Lack of led for battery/notifications, trackpad/ball, and plastic-ish build is too much for me to consider. Plus, even though I'm in the US, the MT4GS have literally 5 pages in the development section and has little dev support. All this is starting to get me worried! I don't think I can hold up much longer without a new phone lol! It's been way too long! I LOVE my G2 still but would love a dual core model with MORE RAM and stuff. Sino8r is getting anxious!
Plus, y'all are forgetting the Samsung Captivate Glide is only on AT&T in the US. That means no 3G. Stupid US carriers and billions of different frequencies.

It will be very interesting to see where all the G2 owners go when they need a new device. But as long as the dev scene is still hot here, I see no real reason to leave just yet. IF the 4G Slide starts to pick up once ICS is released, then I may consider it.
It's remarkable, the prices for that phone have already dropped as well to $250. Waiting for it to get around the $200 mark, and then I'll bite.
BTW, anyone looking for the absolute best value QWERTY phone, you can pick up a brand new 3G Slide from eBay for $140. And if you go through auctions, you can get it for less than that. Astonishing, considering G1 phones are going for just $30 less. Obviously all without contract.
(PS, this is not an advertisement or plug. Just a suggestion)

The droid 4 looks promising. Really love the design and the idea of a back lit keyboard. Just hoping that they will have GSM bands with the phone. Fingers crossed!

ttinjust96 said:
does the HTC Mytouch 4G Slide come 2 mind?
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I was just about to mention that. Remap the Genius button into Search, flash one of undeadk9's "Sense lite" ROMs (posted on RootzWiki), flash unity's overclock kernel, buy an Anker 1900mAh battery or two, and this phone is a BEAST.
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Maybe we should just make one? Like miui did with the mx
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mintaeroboy said:
Maybe we should just make one? Like miui did with the mx
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Like Geeksphone? That's actually a good idea. Anyone know of anybody who can actually build a GSM cell phone that can work on both T-Mobile and Ma Bell?

blackknightavalon said:
Like Geeksphone? That's actually a good idea. Anyone know of anybody who can actually build a GSM cell phone that can work on both T-Mobile and Ma Bell?
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The Chinese
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