(I posted this over at the TMo forum, but figured I might get some more suggestions/help here).
I have the Sprint EVO on the everything plan and it gives me 450 minutes to any landline. All cell to cell calls are included. I pay $80/month and that includes all SMS, data and navigation.
I have a few days before my 30 days are up to decide if I stick with it or go with something else.
I have never had a CDMA phone before. My only concern is if I trash/drop the phone it my kids drop it in the toilet, then I have to purchase another CDMA unit. If I go with TMo, and I trash a phone, I can put the SIM in any of my unlocked GSM phones. I've always used ATT but now am considering the new G2 on TMo.
Would appreciate any advice/suggestions.
Do I keep the EVO and the pretty decent plan, or go to TMo before my window of return closes for two years?
My needs are not huge, but father-in-law has very kindly agreed to pay the monthly bill, so that is a big help.
I do surf the net a fair bit (Facebook, few blogs, search for directions, phone numbers etc, but not excessive.
Talk: just the normal calls to family (i'll be home at 6pm, can you pick up milk etc.) and then the odd 20+ minute call to a friend every now and again. My biggest thing with regards to calling (landlines, businesses or other cellphones) is I don't want to have to look at a clock and wonder if I can call now or wait ½ an hour until a certain time of the day or be concerned what network they are on — just want to be able to pick up the phone and call whenever I need to, as I don't have a landline.
Used to be with ATT, but want a change. ATT often cripples their phones by barring features (e.g. on wife's ATT Samsung Captivate, you can't install non-market APKs because the Unknown Sources checkbox option has been removed).
So far, my experience with the EVO and Sprint has been decent. EVO battery isn't exactly stellar.
I have thoroughly enjoyed switching to an Android phone and want to stay.
PS - In San Diego area if that will help regarding coverage
I will preface this by saying I am a former T-mo customer of 10 years. I don't have anything negative to say about T-mo, they have always taken care of me. I will say that the choice of phones recently (specifically android was sparse) because they were resting on the laurels of the G1 and then went in on the Nexus One Sales fiasco.
That aside, the plan is a good deal, and although they claim "really" unlimited data, I think it was shown that it is capped at 5GBs. But considering your internet use that isn't bad. I will say that likely your Sprint plan would be cheaper. As far as the G2 goes, I haven't done a lot of reading on it, but I think it is actually inferior to the EVO. Additionally, while you could get the Nexus One as well, I think even it is getting long in the tooth. You could also opt for the Samsung Captivate?Facinate? I get all the names messed up.
If your only gripe with the EVO is the battery, then I would recommend the Seidio 3500mAh battery. You won't regret it. You will never complain about the battery again. I think moving to Tmo for the G2 will probably be a mistake, however GSM phones are nice because as you pointed out, if you have a non-smart phone already, you can always downgrade your plan and then just stick your sim card into the G1 and use Wifi. I hope that helps.
How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?
Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill?
And as far as your post: I have an Evo. I would trade it for a G2 in a heartbeat.
Tmobile does not have the best track record for reception though - keep that in mind. While they are cheaper and offer some pretty slick phones it comes at a price. If you get great reception in your area with tmo then do it. If not, what is the point in getting a smart phone?
Spotty 3g coverage here in St. Louis for t-mobile made it an easy decision for me. Love my Evo.
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How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?
Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill?
And as far as your post: I have an Evo. I would trade it for a G2 in a heartbeat.
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Ok, that is a very condescending statement. Maybe it was a gift? Maybe His father has his whole family on one plan at a discount? He probably wouldn't even have bought this phone if he had to pay for it himself?
Ok, now that that is out of the way.
Why would you trade the EVO for the G2 in a heartbeat? I looked up the G2 and what I see is a hybrid Nexus One/G1 mashup. It looks kind of nice, but having used the G1 for two years, let me be the first to say, the only thing to fail on the G1 for me was the keyboard. Don't get me wrong, I do miss it, but it is the weak link. Four co-workers also owned the G1 and all of them had multiple keyboard failures.
5MP camera? That is going backwards. 3.7" Screen... again, going backwards. I didn't see an HDMI out (not that this currently gets much use). It is my understanding that this is supposed to sport the 800Mhz Snapdragon, although that must be wrong, thats like triple strike.
The only reason I could see getting the G2 is if you want a hard keyboarded Nexus One... and if thats the case, samsung makes the epic. As far as I see, it is inferior to the EVO in every way. Oh.... and assuredly it also has poor battery life, so add an extended battery just like I did on the G1 and the EVO and then it looses its "thin/sexy" appeal.
I am not sold. To me this is just Tmo trying to get a leg up on the EVO and failing. "4G LIKE SPEEDS"? Whats that all about? My friends use their HDSPA+ (sp.) and are getting like 2Mbps down. Not all that impressed. I can get 6.5Mbps on 4G.
Thats my opinion and I am sticking too it.
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How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?
Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill
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Long story, but basically someone in the family canceled our (previous) ATT contract without telling us (messy family dynamics). One day we had cell signal and then all of a sudden, nothing. I think it was his way to make things right and help, even though he wasn't at fault - phone was a gift!
I do appreciate the helpful input on how you folks are using your devices and what is good or not good.
I recently bought my sister the My Touch Slide and the rep told me we had 3g coverage where we lived but once we got home it had a big E on the data icon but full bars for service. I kept looking for a 2g/3g switch thinking it was auto 2g cause after all the phone had full almost perfect reception. But after looking I called T-mobile and found out almost the entire state I live in does not have 3g coverage. No wonder no one uses T-mobile around here. I was very pissed at the sales rep for lying or just not knowing. He kept trying to sign us up for an iPhone and I almost told him to shove it up his.... but how can they still not have 3g here? The other cell companies do. Including the ones smaller than T-Mobile. Anyways, I would be sure to check coverage. Any phone will have poor battery life if it has poor reception. Typing this got me pissed again LOL
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Phone wise, I'd take the G2 over the EVO 4G.
I've seen people get 3-4 Mbps over T-Mo's HSPA+ network on a Nexus One which ISN'T a HSPA+ phone. I have no idea what people are getting with the G2 (which is HSPA+) but I saw a Android Central post showing 15 Mbps. Either way, T-Mo is claiming up to 21 Mbps which is a good bit faster than Clear/Sprint's WiMax max of 10 Mbps. So for now, it seems like HSPA+ on the G2 is faster.
The G2 also has a nice looking hardware keyboard, and even after using the EVO (which has a large screen and thus large on screen keyboard +Swype) and the iPhone (which has the best standard on screen keyboard IMO), I'd still rather have a hardware keyboard to type out longer emails.
Processor wise, it's a no contest, the G2 is better. I've seen videos of it running a live wall paper + the 3D app drawer with buttery frame rates -- something the EVO CAN'T DO. And of course gaming is also going to be a lot better.
Software wise it has two big things: 1) it's close to stock and I prefer stock over anything, and 2) Cyanogen is already claiming support and I believe it's actually going to be his day to day phone. So expect it to get speedy updates.
It's pretty much a upgraded Nexus One with a hardware keyboard which is.. great. The EVO has one big upside:it's 4.3" display; but otherwise it's a old phone (2009 specs) with a couple of novelty benefits (HDMI, Kick stand, FF cam).
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It is my understanding that this is supposed to sport the 800Mhz Snapdragon, although that must be wrong, thats like triple strike..
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That 800 MHz Snapdragon is a 2nd generation Snapdragon which is not only faster but also more energy efficient than the 1 GHz one on the EVO. The GPU alone is somewhere around 3 times more powerful.
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That 800 MHz Snapdragon is a 2nd generation Snapdragon which is not only faster but also more energy efficient than the 1 GHz one on the EVO. The GPU alone is somewhere around 3 times more powerful.
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Its a Scorpion processor not Snapdragon
"The MSM7x30 chipset platform consists of the MSM7230™ and MSM7630™. * Scorpion 800 MHz CPU * Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity o MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads o MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE * Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance * High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) * High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration * High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support * 12-megapixel camera support * Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes * Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity * Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode) * Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T) * Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone"
The G2 to me is a downgrade. No HDMI out, no video calling, smaller screen, slower processor, lower camera, flash ready but not enabled (correct me if its already been enabled) more expensive/month/features included in plan. I would get the Nexus if you're sticking with Tmo.
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Phone wise, I'd take the G2 over the EVO 4G.
I've seen people get 3-4 Mbps over T-Mo's HSPA+ network on a Nexus One which ISN'T a HSPA+ phone. I have no idea what people are getting with the G2 (which is HSPA+) but I saw a Android Central post showing 15 Mbps. Either way, T-Mo is claiming up to 21 Mbps which is a good bit faster than Clear/Sprint's WiMax max of 10 Mbps. So for now, it seems like HSPA+ on the G2 is faster.
The G2 also has a nice looking hardware keyboard, and even after using the EVO (which has a large screen and thus large on screen keyboard +Swype) and the iPhone (which has the best standard on screen keyboard IMO), I'd still rather have a hardware keyboard to type out longer emails.
Processor wise, it's a no contest, the G2 is better. I've seen videos of it running a live wall paper + the 3D app drawer with buttery frame rates -- something the EVO CAN'T DO. And of course gaming is also going to be a lot better.
Software wise it has two big things: 1) it's close to stock and I prefer stock over anything, and 2) Cyanogen is already claiming support and I believe it's actually going to be his day to day phone. So expect it to get speedy updates.
It's pretty much a upgraded Nexus One with a hardware keyboard which is.. great. The EVO has one big upside:it's 4.3" display; but otherwise it's a old phone (2009 specs) with a couple of novelty benefits (HDMI, Kick stand, FF cam).
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/10/4g-speedtest-follow-up-g2-vs-evo-t-mobile-vs-sprint/ - Sprint lays down the smack.
Actual Test Tmo G2 vs. Sprint 4G. As far as fluidity, What I am seeing is no real difference in App speeds. Where you see the difference is while using the Sense UI vs. Stock Froyo 2.2. I think that all of us HTC Android owners are already aware of the Sense Laggy-ness vs. Stock Froyo. Its a trade off for looks vs. function.
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/10/4g-speedtest-follow-up-g2-vs-evo-t-mobile-vs-sprint/ - Sprint lays down the smack.
Actual Test Tmo G2 vs. Sprint 4G. As far as fluidity, What I am seeing is no real difference in App speeds. Where you see the difference is while using the Sense UI vs. Stock Froyo 2.2. I think that all of us HTC Android owners are already aware of the Sense Laggy-ness vs. Stock Froyo. Its a trade off for looks vs. function.
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But stating that in this forum isn't fully fair I'd think. Many of us have simply stopped using the sense launcher. Even most of the sense based Roms in Development aren't using sense as the launcher, be it Launcher Pro or ADW or what ev'.
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Its a Scorpion processor not Snapdragon
The G2 to me is a downgrade. No HDMI out, no video calling, smaller screen, slower processor, lower camera, flash ready but not enabled (correct me if its already been enabled) more expensive/month/features included in plan. I would get the Nexus if you're sticking with Tmo.
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HDMI is a niche feature that people barely if at all ever use. Video calling, until Skype VIDEO chat comes back (or Google video shat comes) it's also pretty useless. Smaller screen is a preference thing, but as I said, I prefer the larger screen.
The processor is absolutely faster and better -- IT IS NOT SLOWER. Clock speed doesn't always equal better, and this is one of the cases when it doesn't. The benchmarks show this. The Snapdragon on the EVO is a old CPU/GPU that dates back to the HD2 in 2009.
Flash as in Adobe Flash? It launches with 2.2 so of course it's there; and not only is it there, but it's probably better or going to be better than on the EVO. The Adreno 205 on the G2 has Flash hardware acceleration, the EVO's GPU doesn't. That means better performance and less battery drain when viewing flash video.
T-Mo's off contract plans are way better. If you can stomach paying the up front cost of a phone, it's as cheap as Sprint over the long run.
Why would should anyone get a Nexus One over the G2? G2: Nexus One + better CPU/GPU, hardware keyboard, HSPA+ ready.
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But stating that in this forum isn't fully fair I'd think. Many of us have simply stopped using the sense launcher. Even most of the sense based Roms in Development aren't using sense as the launcher, be it Launcher Pro or ADW or what ev'.
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It doesn't matter. There are still Sense services running in the background taking up RAM and CPU time. Plus all the Sense apps (contacts/phone/etc) are just as slow as the Sense launcher compared to it's AOSP counterparts.
Going to tmobile from Sprint is like going from a Corvette ZR1 to a v6 Camaro for me. Worst service ive ever had reception wise by FAR. Dead spots everywhere, no 3G half the time... it was just unbearable. Couldnt use my phone inside of the house... I just cant do it. Their HSPA claims are nice, but thats when you actually have 3G. Honestly, here in Atlanta I think metro has better coverage than Tmobile.
And I keep hearing how this HSPA is supposed to be so much better than Sprints 4G.. but out of all of the Nexus and G2 owners i've tested against here in Atlanta not a single ONE of them could get over 3-5 megs down constantly while I drew 10-12 regularly. As far as "faster processor".. honestly its a phone, I could care less about 12 thousandths of a second difference in opening an app.
Video chat is useless without skype? Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it but thats just silly. I use fring and now the new video chat app with plenty of my friends with the evo, epic AND the iphone 4 pretty much everyday. It's easy to say its useless when its a feature your phone doesnt have. Keyboard? Dont need it... with swype and shapewriter im just as fast as I was with physical keys on the typing... plus HTC has been KNOWN to be sketchy in the department of sliders with the whole chord seperation fiasco of the TP1 and the keyboard issues of the TP2... I had both.
There is basically nothing about the G2 that'd make me choose it over the evo but its all a matter of preference. But the fact that its on tmobile pretty much seals the deal that ill NEVER have one. Only way id leave Sprint service wise is Verizon.
Service/Coverage varies from place to place -- Sprint sucks in some places too. It's up to you to find out which one is best in your area.
As for the CPU/GPU issue: It just reminds me of some of my past experiences with other products. I remember getting a convertible Vista tablet a while back. It had pretty good specs but the GPU turned out to be crap. I never intended to game on it but even though everything else ran perfectly, anything dealing with Aero was choppy. It was annoying. I bought a pretty expensive tablet and the least I'd expected was for the OS UI animations to run smooth.
I experienced the same thing on the EVO. I don't game much, but UI stuff like live wall papers and 3D app drawers cause the EVO to crawl. It isn't TOO bad right now but what if Gingerbread finally brings GPU acceleration and a more animated UI? Can we expect the EVO/first gen Snapdragon to keep up? I'm not too confident.
I like mine since I can swap my coverage to verizon when sprint is weak in reception while traveling
But thats the thing... I know phones are regional but I had tmobile while I was in DC, New Orleans, Birmingham and LA and had reception issues in every spot. Traveling on I-10 from Mobile to New Orleans was a tragedy with my reception.
Honestly you should go with whatever carrier has the best reception in your area. Would really be bad to be locked into a contract and have to outside to make calls.
I would go back to t mobile if they pick of their service. Buts thats for me and my area. Android phones are becoming so replaceable since all the new ones are high powered and they all do the same things. You should really only concern yourself with service and price
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Display: It is hard to tell from the leaked pictures, but the Slide will feature a larger display than the original MT3G. Our source compared the display with an iPhone 3G S (3.5 in) and said they were the same size. I was unable to determine if the display was AMOLED or not.
Camera: The Slide features a 5 megapixel camera with LED flash and autofocus. This is an improvement over the MT3G which had 3 MP and no flash.
Processor: We don’t know the exact model number, but I did confirm it has a 600 MHz ARM11 processor. This could be the Qualcomm MSM7227 or MSM7627.
Memory: From what we can tell the Slide features the same 512 MB ROM / 512 MB RAM as seen in the HTC Nexus One. The phone should ship with an 8 GB microSD card.
HSPA+: The source claimed the Slide will be used by T-Mobile to promote their HSPA+ network, but I do not think it supports the full HSPA+ speeds. Instead I believe it supports HSPA 7.2 which is compatible with the new HSPA+ network. Qualcomm just started to sample some of their HSPA+ chipsets (MSM8260, MSM8660 and MSM8270), but those have a 1.2 GHz Scorpion processor which is faster than what is used in the Slide.
Battery: 1300 mAh as reported earlier.
Operating system: This was already known, but the Slide has the latest Android 2.1 firmware (still kernel 2.6.29) and HTC’s new Sense UI. All of the latest Sense UI features like Leap are included, but the UI has been tweaked to T-Mobile’s liking. It is the same UI as the leaked Espresso ROM that was revealed earlier this year. Users can select between 5-7 home screens.
Hardware extras: The Slide features a proximity and light sensor. The external speaker is much louder than the original MT3G. An optical trackpad is used in place of the trackball.
Multitouch: The Browser, Gallery, and Maps applications all support pinch zoom.
Live Wallpapers: Sorry, these are not supported. This is not that big a surprise considering the processor is ARM11 based.
Accounts & sync: Since the device is Android 2.1, it supports multi accounts. There were a few new additions not seen on my Nexus One. Flickr is now an integrated account you can sync. There is also the option to sync your T-Mobile account so they can store your photos.
Software extras: Lots of T-Mobile bundled apps like AppPack, My Account, and more. There is a myTouch Music app which is a semi-clone of Pandora. Quick Office is included along with some games like Abduction. None of the bundled apps can be removed at this time. Swype is the default virtual keyboard, but users can switch to the HTC keyboard or a new one called Dragon Dictionary.
Gaming: Our unofficial gaming benchmark for mid-range Android phones has become Raging Thunder 2. The game was designed for high-end phones like the Droid and N1, but the source claims it plays at an acceptable frame rate on the Slide. This is a surprise because we tried the game in our Motorola Devour review (also 600 MHz ARM11) and it was not playable. The additional RAM found in the Slide could be the reason for the performance boost.
Overall impressions: Our source claims they were extremely satisfied with the Slide (and they came from the G1). The phone is slimmer than the G1 which is nice for those considering an upgrade. The performance of the Sense UI was great and no lag was experienced on the home screen. The battery life is typical of any Android phone and got them through the day.
I like it! Except... I'm so used to touch screen. I don't want the keyboard lol. I'm sure those who love their g1 might like this though
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I like it! Except... I'm so used to touch screen. I don't want the keyboard lol
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Used to the touchscreen? I hate it man. It works great when I am not using it but when I need to use it, it decides to break and lag like hell. I'm waiting for a cool keyboard android phone.
i have seen the leaked photos and with the specs..sounds like a decent phone...still not a nexus but i would use it....if i hadnt
gotten the MT3G.
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Used to the touchscreen? I hate it man. It works great when I am not using it but when I need to use it, it decides to break and lag like hell. I'm waiting for a cool keyboard android phone.
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true, it does lag sometimes which pisses me off, but like i said.. I got used to it hahaha
i read at the same site that they dont get lag but this is defennitly my next phone especially with sense
Wow, I'm feeling a bit of buyers remorse for the Mytouch 1.2 now...
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Wow, I'm feeling a bit of buyers remorse for the Mytouch 1.2 now...
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I wish I could even get that feeling... too bad Carriers here have such old old phones. If only I was rich enough to buy them upfront and have it shipped from the states!
not sure if i really need a physical keyboard anymore now that i'm so use to swype. Well i guess it'd be useful for like NES emulators.
im sellin my mytouch for this im gonna buy this unlocked so im wondering what the price is unlocked
Like I posted before in the HTC Dream section. I like this phone a lot. Playing around with it felt real snappy and the keyboard felt quite amazing.
Its the perfect replacement for now from the G1 even though the processor isn't the most impressive piece of hardware by any means. Should suffice for now.
I'll be buying the white one as its super sweet.
This was taken from someone who posted on another site but seems legit:
I work for T-Mobile and am supposed to be getting one of these soon as part of a MyTouch Champion promotion. I was also a a meeting this evening a rep had already received his, and from everything I see, it flat out flies! I know the processor isnt much of an increase, but HTC has done something right because the multitouch seemed really responsive and the new Sense looks clean. I was also told at the meeting that the processor is actually 700 MHz, not 600, so take it for what it’s worth, but I’ll be more than happy to post again once I receive mine.
I've already sold my MT3G to cover some bills and I'm gonna replace it with this next month. May 17th needs to hurry up and I hope the date sticks!
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Like I posted before in the HTC Dream section. I like this phone a lot. Playing around with it felt real snappy and the keyboard felt quite amazing.
Its the perfect replacement for now from the G1 even though the processor isn't the most impressive piece of hardware by any means. Should suffice for now.
I'll be buying the white one as its super sweet.
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I disagree. It's out of date from day 1 for power users. I couldn't commit myself to an 18 month contract for this. Really need a high end phone with QWERTY.
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I disagree. It's out of date from day 1 for power users. I couldn't commit myself to an 18 month contract for this. Really need a high end phone with QWERTY.
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Being a power user myself, I disagree with your first statement. Even my Mytouch 1.2 with it's 528 MHZ processor runs applications well. I mean, a 1 GHZ Snapdragon would be nice, but just because it doesn't have the highest end specs doesn't mean it's already outdated. Besides, if you can't live with that for 18 months, switch to Even More Plus and buy it off contract, or just don't buy it at all.
I might buy the Mytouch Slide, if it can become rooted and not be a PITA like the Mytouch 1.2.
I have the MyTouch Slide...can't wait for someone to root it because lack of apps2sd is my only complaint.
Like I posted before in the HTC Dream section. I like this phone a lot. Playing around with it felt real snappy and the keyboard felt quite amazing.
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I disagree. It's out of date from day 1 for power users. I couldn't commit myself to an 18 month contract for this. Really need a high end phone with QWERTY.
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speed also lays in the os/partitioning.
bloatware or a bad os will slow down even the scorpion 1.2ghz..also idk about the cell cpu but speed also comes from the fbs & clock on the ram. htc may have done some nice programig to speed it up.
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I have the MyTouch Slide...can't wait for someone to root it because lack of apps2sd is my only complaint.
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How did you already get it?
Family that works inside TMO...the gave me the handset as a gift.
it official! htc posted it on their facebook and the mytouch site has the coming soon
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Now, we know everything about the new iPhone 4, how many ppl here are thinking of/not interested in iPhone 4?
Just curious!
We didn't really learn anything new about the iphone 4 that wasn't already known hardware or software-wise. I'm not sure why someone would return the evo unless they just always want the last phone to come out. If you like iphone os, get iphone 4... if you like android, get the EVO. it's that simple
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We didn't really learn anything new about the iphone 4 that wasn't already known hardware or software-wise. I'm not sure why someone would return the evo unless they just always want the last phone to come out. If you like iphone os, get iphone 4... if you like android, get the EVO. it's that simple
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Okay so did you know...
1. It has one of the best resolutions right now
2. it records HD 720p videos with 30fps with flash
3. video editing can be done on iPhone 4 using iPhone iMovie
4. about the metal frames were actually antenna's for different radios that may boost your signal strength for respective radio
5. it comes with 802.11n Wi-Fi, a gyroscope to detect motion on 6 axes
.....so on...
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Okay so did you know...
1. It has one of the best resolutions right now
2. it records HD 720p videos with 30fps with flash
3. video editing can be done on iPhone 4 using iPhone iMovie
4. about the metal frames were actually antenna's for different radios that may boost your signal strength for respective radio
5. it comes with 802.11n Wi-Fi, a gyroscope to detect motion on 6 axes
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1. This was known from the leaked versions. The resolution is very high, but as stated even by Steve Jobs at the keynote that the DPI is higher than the human eye can tell. The IPS screen is beautiful, but it's not a deal breaker for me.
2. 20fps, 30fps, big whoop. I have a Canon 7D which records 1080p @ 30fps and 720p @ 60fps, so I won't be using my Evo's video camera that much to begin with.
3. That is neat, but video editing on such a small screen?
4. Was not entirely known, but is that really a deal breaker again? It is a stroke of genius, though.
5. The Evo has 802.11n (the Broadcom chipset is BT + 802.11b/g/n), drivers are just not supporting it fully yet (although the Nexus has it, I believe).
Other things..
FaceTime? Looks very nice, but it's iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 only.. I used Fring to Skype chat this morning from my phone. The receiving end was on a Macbook.
iAds? Great for developers
I can't think of anything else that stood out.
i am keeping my EVO i like it a lot.
- bigger screen
- 4G
- unlimited data
- 8 mp cam (although the backlight looked interesting)
- Froyo and the next version that will be even better
- flash
...do I need to continue?
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I look at it like Sprint and HTC was 2 steps ahead of Apple and ATT
i mean come on. you would think the iphone would be that game changing phone. But the Evo just bought all that stuff before them
1. 720P recording, HDMI output also
2.Big a$$ screen perfect for watching HQ movies and what not
3.First 4G Phone to run 4G networks where 4G is in the market
4.Front facing camera for video calling and 8MP camera on the back for all your 720P videos and Hi res pics
5.Running the best open source OS that will always be open source. unlike the iphone we dont have to wait months or years to find a way to root or hack
6.You dont have to be sucked in ATT high a$$ phone bill
This phone does all of this. and the iphone brings nothing new to me now. its just a few upgrades again. but im not a fanboy or a hater. i got apple products and got a att contract
I want to make a note to everyone pointing out the 8MP camera. Megapixels just affects the size of the image, not the quality. I am fairly sure that the iPhone's camera is of higher quality but has smaller images.
That being said, I'm very happy with the Evo.
Team Evo.
No surprise with the iPhone announcement today.
Everything I have read was right on.
Apple was the one playing catch up with the Android OS and the Evo.
And after spending just couple of days with the Evo's 4.3 inch screen, every other phone is just small as hell.
AND why would you leave Sprint's plan and start a new contract with ATT and their 2GB data plan?
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Team Evo.
No surprise with the iPhone announcement today.
Everything I have read was right on.
Apple was the one playing catch up with the Android OS and the Evo.
And after spending just couple of days with the Evo's 4.3 inch screen, every other phone is just small as hell.
AND why would you leave Sprint's plan and start a new contract with ATT and their 2GB data plan?
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Couldnt agree with you more! The whole Netflix thing is going to be awesome for AT&T customers... Do people not realize how fast you will burn through 2GB when watching video. I got my EVO on Friday and just over the weekend I have already used over 300MB and I have not done any extreme amount of surfing or video watching...just a few youtube videos and various other stuff.... Using Netflix will burn through the 2GB in no time at all....I will laugh at all the people that end up with an extra $100 on their bill and then when they try to cancel their contract to go to Sprint or Verizon have to pay a new $325 cancelation fee.... GO AT&T/APPLE
man i helped my friend who i sold my hero to flash a new rom... and i put my evo down picked up the hero and was like omg this thing is tiny..... cant believe i ever used a phone that small.
Couldn't imagine many people with a brain going from the EVO to an iPhone (of course there's still the sheep that would buy the air we breath if Steve Job's told them to):
EVO:
- Unlimited data/mo
- 4.3' screen
- Android openness
- Replaceable battery
- Kickstand
- Video calling over cellular data
- Free turn by turn navigation + Google voice for free text messaging
- 4g
- Emulators
iPhone:
- 2gb data/mo
- 3.5' screen
- iOS 4 (locked down by apple)
- Non-replaceable battery
- No kickstand
- Video calling ONLY to other iPhone 4 users and ONLY over wifi
- Free Google applications blocked just so Apple can make more money
- 3g on a network that is so bad they hogtie their customers with a 2gb limit
- Emulators blocked
To me the choice is rather easy...
man i helped my friend who i sold my hero to flash a new rom... and i put my evo down picked up the hero and was like omg this thing is tiny..... cant believe i ever used a phone that small.
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Haha I thought the same thing with my G1. How in the hell did I do anything on that "tiny" screen. That being said, all Evo for me.
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Couldn't imagine many people with a brain going from the EVO to an iPhone (of course there's still the sheep that would buy the air we breath if Steve Job's told them to):
EVO:
- Unlimited data/mo
- 4.3' screen
- Android openness
- Replaceable battery
- Kickstand
- Video calling over cellular data
- Free turn by turn navigation + Google voice for free text messaging
- 4g
- Emulators
iPhone:
- 2gb data/mo
- 3.5' screen
- iOS 4 (locked down by apple)
- Non-replaceable battery
- No kickstand
- Video calling ONLY to other iPhone 4 users and ONLY over wifi
- Free Google applications blocked just so Apple can make more money
- 3g on a network that is so bad they hogtie their customers with a 2gb limit
- Emulators blocked
To me the choice is rather easy...
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This petty much sums it up. I can't imagine why any non-Apple-fanboy would pick the iPhone over the EVO.
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Couldn't imagine many people with a brain going from the EVO to an iPhone (of course there's still the sheep that would buy the air we breath if Steve Job's told them to)
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that is sig material!
We didn't really learn anything new about the iphone 4 that wasn't already known hardware or software-wise. I'm not sure why someone would return the
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1. It has one of the best resolutions right now
2. it records HD 720p videos with 30fps with flash
3. video editing can be done on iPhone 4 using iPhone iMovie
4. about the metal frames were actually antenna's for different radios that may boost your signal strength for respective radio
5. it comes with 802.11n Wi-Fi, a gyroscope to detect motion on 6 axes
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The people who selected "Bought EVO 4G and returning it soon for iPhone 4!" should post pics of the Evo to prove they acctually own one. 5 seems too high to me
Evo is an awsome phone as is the iPhone 4. Seems like iPhone users are the ones making the switch and not the other way around
I'm wondering, did they decide to put the metal ring around it act as an antenae to help improve the phones signal on ATT's crappy network? I thought the best part of the WWDC event was when Job's was trying to demo the unit and couldn't get a cellular or wifi connection... then asking all the media folks to turn off their laptops and data connections... that was absolutely hillarious!
I imagine the antenna thing is probably mostly a gimmick, similar to how apple pretends their "backlit sensor" is unique to their camera; in reality most phones with newer omnivision chips (read: the evo and other good recent smartphones) have the same feature. Jobs is a master of making the mundane sound phenomenal (although that's not to do say the new iphone doesn't have great hardware, it's just not groundbreaking in some of the ways he'd like us to believe)
If it was any other carrier then AT&T, I would consider switching..
But - the EVO's got two big things going for it vs. the iphone - 1) screen size, 2) sprint.
The only thing that the iPhone 4g has that I'm a little jealous of is potentially better battery life. (but.. my battery life on the evo is good enough.. 10-12hours with moderate usage..)
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diomark said:
If it was any other carrier then AT&T, I would consider switching..
But - the EVO's got two big things going for it vs. the iphone - 1) screen size, 2) sprint.
The only thing that the iPhone 4g has that I'm a little jealous of is potentially better battery life. (but.. my battery life on the evo is good enough.. 10-12hours with moderate usage..)
-m
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There's also a downside to the iPhone's battery: You cannot replace it if it goes bad, and you cannot upgrade to an extended version if it doesn't last long enough.
After dealing with Sprint terrible dead zones in my community and getting tired of their stupid Airave micro range, I'm moving to Verizon when their Droid X comes out july 15.
It's sucks that I'll to leave sprint great prices and decent customer service, but the Droid X ups one on the Evo in my opinion (camera shutter button, larger battery, 8gb internal memory).
My question is will all my app on my evo work on the droid x? Their screen resolution are different.
Anyone else jumping ship?
It's the same resolution.
Droid x is ugly to me, too big, and doesn't have a front camera. Takes worse pics in comparison too, and i noticed shutter lag in a YouTube vid as well.
Only thing I like about it is processor and gpu
Droid X Res: 854 x 480
Evo 4g Res: 800 x 480
From what I read.
Also the pics and video shot on the droid X looked much better in the reviews I read.
processor and GPU would be nice, not to mention the hardware buttons. I'm not a fan of slightly moving my finger down and being at the home screen, losing what I was doing.
The Droid X looks ugly to me, and I have confidence that any complaints or shortcomings felt about the Evo will be addressed by our developer community. I'm up to 50 FPS right now on my Evo with a test kernel (Rev. 0003, Nova panel, no tearing or defects).
Where I'm at (Northern Virginia), I get great Sprint service. Around 2300 kbps on 3G and just under 5000 kbps on 4G with 1 bar.
I'll be staying right where I'm at.
Droid X's bootloader is locked, big disadvantage for me. who knows if and when you'll be able to flash custom roms.
I' m not going anywhere, i love my EVO, and there will be always a new device "better" so i don't even bother
You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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burned.
haha.
sprint's been good to me. if you're an ass to custser rep, then expect them to be an ass. i've asked nicely and received a lot of good stuff from them. i upgraded my touch pro to a touch pro 2 for free in march and then several months later, was able to get my evo for the same price as new subscribers. with those buttons the droid x looks so yesterday.
I will never return to Verizon. The coverage was much worse for me and I was paying 30% more than I do with Sprint.
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I' m not going anywhere, i love my EVO, and there will be always a new device "better" so i don't even bother
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Here,here!!
Verizon is so much more expensive than Sprint. Droid X has much better hardware, but looks slightly worse.
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You purchased a Sprint Phone to use in an area where you knew it would not get great reception? Then complain about it?
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this !!
il keep my evo
nahhh EVO is too sexxy for me to leave for a ugly DROID X.besides i get 25% off of my bill every month from SPRINT,cant beat that
As someone else posted, why would you get a phone on a network that doesn't have good coverage in your area... Have fun with your Droid and higher phone bill with Verizon though... Not sure why you needed to let everyone know that you were leaving your EVO behind either.
Verizon is way too expensive, EVO = 70 a month with unlimited mobile calling, DroidX = 120 a month, in 2 years that = $1200 more for Verizon and they are getting ready to do the 2gb data cap like ATT. Screw that LOL I get just as good of service here in S.Florida with Sprint as I do with Verizon. The only thing I like better about the DroidX is the GPU but the fact of the matter is these phones are just like our computers, the games will always be made to support the widest array of customers possible so even though the GPU is more powerful on the Droid it will still be stuck playing the same games as the rest of the Android phones. I much prefer Sense, that ui on the Droid looks terrible, I don't like the design with the big hump on top and I don't like how big the thing is, nor do I like the cheap plastic hardware buttons the EVO is much sleeker and a much nicer phone IMO.
I'm sure the DroidX will be popular though Verizon/Motorola are really good with the advertising and hype much like Apple is with the iPhone, which is a good thing, without them Android might still be where it was a couple years ago.
I think I will stick with the already rooted HTC Evo 4G with Sprint's cheaper plan.
As I said before, yeah, HTC screwed up pretty bad, but the dev community here is so ridiculously awesome I'm not even worried about anything anymore.
At this rate, I think the custom kernel will have working cameras sooner than later.
And besides, someone mentioned how Motorola is making their phones the unbreakable fortress software wise. All that headache to root a phone will paying an extra 30 dollars a month? Nty.
And someone else also mentioned, newer phones, usually better. Too bad, so sad.
You have to look at the network first and then the phone. If Sprint has bad coverage and Verizon is good then you should switch. Luckily dfw has great sprint coverage
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Maybe I am wrong but doesn't sprint roam on verizon towers, if coverage is the reason jump ship stop by at the developers side there is a PRL hack to allow your EVO to solely find the verizon towers, it seams to be faster and more bars but the response time is much slower which on a mobile device makes a huge difference everything you do. the evo is a great device i really did not and still do not see any of the 30 fps cap and gpu fault till i stopped looking solely on the developers side, every game i play runs smoothly, live wallpapers run great, hd movies converted looks phenomenal and runs smoothly. i thought there where hardware limitation causing scrolling jerkiness until i install ADW and then Advanced launcher pro and it scrolled like butter. software optimizations would come.
And about the slight tint on the LCD for espon 002 screens emogamer explained it the best. its like any other lcd t.v or monitor, its like setting you t.v to cool pic/sports mode on representing the 002 and warm/movie mode representing the 003, everyone knows if you wanna use you lcd tv as a monitor, you set it on cool mode, you cold see the txt better that way and its more vibrant, same for monitors. try it open the web page showing both screens side to side with some text below switch from warm to cool mode on your lcd or monitor it pretty much the same effect, white better represented in cool mode but blacks are richer in warm mode there is also a slight tint on the cool mode but the text come out looking more defined. this is a mobile device just enjoy it for the possibilities the hardware has not even been pushed to the max, developers are still finding stuff in the code.
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As someone else posted, why would you get a phone on a network that doesn't have good coverage in your area... Have fun with your Droid and higher phone bill with Verizon though... Not sure why you needed to let everyone know that you were leaving your EVO behind either.
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I'm sticking with my EVO. The Droid X has a nice processor and GPU but everything else, the EVO pretty much has it beat in MY opinion. Some may like the hardware buttons more but, I have yet to have any problems with the EVO's buttons. On top of that the Droid X is pretty ugly. The EVO looks beautiful and elegant. No front facing camera on the DX (and believe it or not, I use it quite a bit more than I originally thought I would). And since there is no longer a 30fps cap or any touch lag on the EVO, there's absolutely no reason for me to switch because everything else works flawlessly for me.
I have no doubt the Droid X will be extremely popular on Verizon though. It's definitely a good phone, but for me, the EVO has it beat.
Less than 3 months ago I had an iPhone 3g, than a HD2, now because of ALL the considerable, never ending problems with my HD2, I had to switch to the touch slide.
So the real question is, is this phone really "mid range"? I like to think not, because I haven't received it yet, but there are allot of mixed reviews on the internet. At this point I am wiling to sacrifice some screen real estate for overall performance. The qwerty keyboard REALLY excites me since the on screen keyboards are never wide enough for even my little fingers, swype is nice since it was the only option I had with the HD2 but to send an email fast it was not ideal.
How does this phone really compare to the EVO, DROID X, and the never ending android phones already here or coming....
The reason the phone is considered mid-ranged is it doesn't have a 1ghz processor like some of the other higher end phones. This phone is very snappy despite the slower processor and as soon as a new kernel is released we should be able to overclock the processor to get closer and closer to the 1ghz mark.
I received an EVO at Google IO, so I used it for about a month. Yes, the EVO is a little snappier, but in reality, it depends on how you plan on using the phone. I use connectbot daily on mine to ssh into servers, and a physical keyboard is a lifesaver. I also found the EVO almost too big and felt likely to slip out of my hand than the Slide. I'll also mention that I get 6-8 hours more out of the battery on the Slide. 4G on the EVO was nice, but it was really annoying when you had it on listening to Pandora in the car, or were in a iffy 4G area - you would loose your connection for about a minute when switching between 4G and 3G. (Maybe one of the recent updates has fixed that, I don't know.) I'm looking forward to getting the T-Mobile HSPA that will make the 3G connection faster and I actually think that the Slide has the advantage when you are in a HSPA covered area since you'll get up to 7 mb/s on 3G. Yes, the EVO is a faster and flashier device, but I find the slide to be a more useful overall device for me and (other than having the large beautiful screen on the EVO) I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by having the Slide vs. the EVO.
After having it and using it full time for about a month I don't really consider it a mid-range device. However, I'm not one of the users that delves into every nook and cranny of the phone to pull out every ounce of usability.
I use it for work mainly and use Remote Desktop Client from Xtralogic to access work PCs and servers. It absolutely flies and the keyboard is a must have when doing that.
I upgraded from a G1 and the difference in speed even when the memory gets to the low end due to me not restarting it in a week it is still twice as fast as my old phone.
I came from using an iPhone 3G that I loved but really got tired of only having EDGE so I got the HTC HD and after a week of using it I hated it. So now I have this slide and I think its a great device. It runs smooth, looks good, and I put it up there with the iphone I had.
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i dont think its a mid range phone, this is my phone list in the past six months: Moto Cliq, Iphone3gs, HD2, BB Bold 9700, not Slide. My girl loves her CLIQ cuz she a social flower, me i can care less, definitely a mid range phone. I moved to the Iphone but hated ATT service and spotty 3g. HD2 was a high end phone (b.c of the processor but thats all) Windows really choked the phone. BB was cool but i hated the internet. The slide marries all these devices together for me. I have the social part for the most part, its nice and clean and sexy like the Iphone, screen is the close to the HD2. Fully and spacious keyboard, and Android 2.1. The phone has all the same features and the high-end droid phones. Just without the (over-hyped) 1gz processor and the front facing cam. The phone is snappy and handles the os and tons of app without hesitation.
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i dont think its a mid range phone, this is my phone list in the past six months: Moto Cliq, Iphone3gs, HD2, BB Bold 9700, not Slide. My girl loves her CLIQ cuz she a social flower, me i can care less, definitely a mid range phone. I moved to the Iphone but hated ATT service and spotty 3g. HD2 was a high end phone (b.c of the processor but thats all) Windows really choked the phone. BB was cool but i hated the internet. The slide marries all these devices together for me. I have the social part for the most part, its nice and clean and sexy like the Iphone, screen is the close to the HD2. Fully and spacious keyboard, and Android 2.1. The phone has all the same features and the high-end droid phones. Just without the (over-hyped) 1gz processor and the front facing cam. The phone is snappy and handles the os and tons of app without hesitation.
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Get my Mytouch 3g tomorrow in the mail! I went from HD2 to this Im really excited. It seems like an awesome phone from what I have been reading,I cant wait.
It is enjoy
I've had mine for a couple weeks and it still flies haven't even rooted yet just waiting for a froyo rom. I mean I have all 7 screens full and still don't get lag so it doesn't seem mid range to me.
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I agree with everything dayoungmogul23 posted. I think (and of course this my guess/opinion) that what's REALLY helping this from being bogged down is the 512 Ram and the N1 GPU. Takes a bit of pressure off the Arm 11. I really can't wait to see what FroYo is going to do to this thing.
Of Topic: On a Side note I just felt sick to my Stomach when Jobs announced the Front facing Camera like it was a New Idea he came up with. Really? Hmm this Video Calling feature on my circa 2004 Phone is fake? Coulda fooled me. This was a feature on Dumbphones in other Countries for about 10 YEARS!
Well I've been showing my phone off tio my friends and most of them say they think the new mytouch is better than the vibrant and some guy thinks his ipod touch 2g is better because his pocket pond app has better graphics
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its all about personal preference.
vibrant has best gpu,samoled screen.
mt4g has flash, hspa+, and a ffc.
id personally stick with my vibrant. once its lag fixed and oc'd its a beast.
and that ipod 2g is not better than the vibrant lol that guy who said that has to be a noob, the reason pocket ponds looks so good on it,because its optimized for the hardware.
Yup! What's ffc
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blasian shadows said:
its all about personal preference.
vibrant has best gpu,samoled screen.
mt4g has flash, hspa+, and a ffc.
id personally stick with my vibrant. once its lag fixed and oc'd its a beast.
and that ipod 2g is not better than the vibrant lol that guy who said that has to be a noob, the reason pocket ponds looks so good on it,because its optimized for the hardware.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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I think he is talking LED flash
From the last Apple announcement:
Reporter: What about flash support?
Steve Jobs: Our phones love flash, that where we store things.
I do think Vibrant is a better choice, even though the Snapdragon 2nd Gen processor in HTC phones (G2 and MyTouch 4G) is a beast on its own, but if it weren't for somewhat childish looks of MTG4 and the fact that you cannot mod the damn thing (only temp root, and no RW access to NAND) makes it a bit of a downer.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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Will you have to get the official update to get flash? I'm running Eugene's froyo and my phone won't receive any updates at all for other reasons so if i can't get flash that would suck.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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my mistake i should have said led flash.
and yea once the banding issues are fixed i am buying a Ffc lol
From a majority consumer point of view, the MyTough3g is better.
FFC isn't a niche device, it's pretty mainstream considering you can now chat with people who use Yahoo Messenger from your Android phone if it has a FFC. Don't really care about Qik, but Yahoo is very much in use in the world. I suspect Windows Live Messenger will debut this feature quite soon with some Windows Phones coming out with FFCs.
The phone is snappier. Doesn't have the crappy RFS file system. The GUI looks good, and the Speech recognition works great. Doesn't feel like a paper plate in you hands, either (though I've added a cover to my vibrant to put some weight on it).
The Vibrant is a good device but the software (and I've heard FroYo doesn't really change much, outside of the fact that it's FroYo and yes I do need some of the features in FroYo so I welcome it) is terrible and some of the ommisions are just mind-boggling. No LED on front for notifications, for example. No Flash. GPS that still doesn't work correctly for half the people who have it. Slow as hell file system that makes the phone unusable from time to time. Less Application RAM than an HTC Aria. The GPU really doesn't matter because Android 2.1/2.2 still doesn't have a gfx accellerated GUI and Windows Mobile 6.5 has more games than Android (more games that you're bother installing, that is).
HTC also typically has an HTC Sync application for their phones, which makes managing them much easier than Galaxy S in the US (no Kies for us).
TBQH, I'm tired defending this phone. I wonder when others will get tired of it (prolly never on this forum, people still call the HD2 the greatest phone on earth here). This device is being completely overshadowered by other offerings and the only reason why it sold so well on AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint is because:
1. T-Mobile didn't have anything else worth buying in the range of high end smartphones (HD2 not an option for most people with it's OS and problematic reputation)
2. AT&T Doesn't have much other high end smartphonts other than Palm Pres and the Torch that just came out with the Captivate (the Pre and Torch feel more mid-range compared to iOS/Android devices, and there was the Aria as well in that space).
3. Sprint had so many issues with Evo backorders/issues that customers had no issue but to get something else. They have no other good phones. Their Pres are 1st gen and no one wants a Touch Pro 2 or Hero, Lol...
How that there are other good phones coming out... I wouldn't expect much.
Not everyone is a power user. My mom doesn't cry about not being able to jailbreak her Blackberry and when she had a WinMo phone she didn't even install an app on it. She just used it as a phone/txt device (basically as a feature phone). The temp-root issue is only an issue for a very small minority of users - so it isn't even an issue at all in the grand scheme of things.
I looked at the new mytouch.
No thanks.
And I'm at a loss as to the above posters issues. This is my third android phone, and it us by far the fastest happiest android device I've used. My last phone, the Nexus one, although sexy, would need a reboot at least once a day to keep it snappy.
And I live the size if included internal memory is the Vibrant. No need for special hacks to get files on SD.
The Vibrant, for me, is a fantastic phone.
And yes, can't wait for the banding issue to be resolved for the FFC.
Oh, and it doesn't need a flash. It takes better pictures in low light conditions without one, than other phones that have a flash
Well, the one thing that is unmatched on the Galaxy S line is the amazing screen. Sorry, but I can't go back to LCD or plain AMOLED after this. After all, you use the screen more than any other feature on a smartphone.
As for the other things, it all depends on what's important to you. GPS works great for me now. FFC would be nice, but not necessary for me. As for flash? Meh, LED flash is barely adequate as a solution.
Personally, I picked the Vibrant because aside from the core smartphone functions, I wanted a phone that could also replace my old iPod. So for me, having 16gb of built-in memory was more important than even having a camera, much less a flash.
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My First Impression Of The MyTouch 4G:
The screen on the MyTouch 4G is much higher in resolution. You can barely see pixels. The MyTouch 4G produces real whites, the SuperAmoled produces green/blue whites. However the SAMOLED has a much better contrast ratio, meaning colors pop since blacks are much darker.
The 3.8 inch screen is too small for me
The Build Quality of the 4G seems to be good.
The GPU seemed slower than the Vibrants PowerVR.
The CPU is faster on the 4G.
Now here is the odd part. I must admit I've noticed the same thing with the G2.
Both the G2 and the Mytouch 4G are HSPA+, while the Vibrant is not. However, side by side, running speedtest app. The vibrant EVERY SINGLE TIME had both higher download and upload speeds. It just doesn't make sense. Side by side, the Vibrant got almost 6mbps download. MyTouch 4G best it could do was 3mbps. Same with the G2, I don't get it.
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I looked at the new mytouch.
No thanks.
And I'm at a loss as to the above posters issues. This is my third android phone, and it us by far the fastest happiest android device I've used. My last phone, the Nexus one, although sexy, would need a reboot at least once a day to keep it snappy.
And I live the size if included internal memory is the Vibrant. No need for special hacks to get files on SD.
The Vibrant, for me, is a fantastic phone.
And yes, can't wait for the banding issue to be resolved for the FFC.
Oh, and it doesn't need a flash. It takes better pictures in low light conditions without one, than other phones that have a flash
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Every phone has its fanbois. I just left T-Mo and played with an HD7.
Vinrant fells like an 8088 PC-XT compared to that. Only way to think this phone is snappy is to have only used worse phones.
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LOL yup so I'll wait another 2 years for a newer android phone with android 4.0 if its going there
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Me and my roomate both had our Vibrants in the store. We were astonished by the difference, just in scrolling form home screen to home screen. The Vibrants were obviously laggy doing something trivial. The Windows phone just blew through everything. The UI is beyond polished. The minimalist look definitely works well.
Microsoft definitely took the best route short of developing their own phones: Lock down the hardware and focus on doing what you do best - software ~ namely the OS and all the device drivers. Google should take note, or Android will suffer (although I'm sure it will be prevalent in the low-mid range device market, since Nokia isn't that big a player - at least in the US).
We played with the MyTouch 4G. The phone itself is ugly and I'm not a fan of screens < 4". It has some Sense elements in it which = update churn like 90% of other Android phones. The G2 performed decently but it has a whole host of problems. If you haven't experienced that ****ty hinge I implore you to go to a T-Mobile store and play with it. The minute the phone is perpendicular to the floor the phone starts closing (more like slamming) on you. That makes the phone unusable for me if I'm lying in bed and using it (as I often do before I go to bed). I guess something like an Epic 4G or Droid 2 wouldn't have that issue, though. That hinge was a terrible idea, Lol.
Oh, and did I mention the touchscreen keyboard on WP7 is /drools/ worthy.
I can't see myself getting any other Android Phone again.
If you get a phone with a UI on it that looks decent it is bound to come with hoards of issues and update churn. If you get a stock phone the built quality is pure crap and/or half the space is taken up to lock the phone down instead.
In any case, I heard FroYo for Galaxy S in the U.S. is supposed to be coming Nov. 11 on Facebook from "Samsung Galaxy S."
I heard Galaxy S performance is still below acceptable with FroYo, though... Some people are reporting regressions.
i just picked up the new mt4g. i have two phone lines (one for my work) and will probably keep both phones. i will need to use the mt4g for a couple of weeks go form a complete review/opinion on the phone v. the vibrant.
the mt4g is very solid and very snappy considering all the bloatware. with its HTC Espresso UI, the interface isn't for every body. Just like HTC sense it does a huge amount of social integration, moreso than the vibrant. And just like HTC sense you have pre-set "themes" you can load in terms of personal and business preferences.
it's screen is super crisp but no where near as "vibrant" as our vibrant phones. in terms of gaming, i haven't compared the two yet as i'm sure the mt4g can handle them well to a certain extent vs. the vibrant being that it's a second gen snapdragon. but i'm sure in terms of rendering and graphic display, it won't match the vibrant. i'll probably compare the gaming and video playback between the two later this week.
N8ter said:
In any case, I heard FroYo for Galaxy S in the U.S. is supposed to be coming Nov. 11 on Facebook from "Samsung Galaxy S."
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There's been no announcement or even real rumor of the sort, unfortunately.
The only thing that's confirmed is "by the end of the year".
If the mytouch had at least a 4" screen I would get it. That being said, I'm looking forward to the android version of the Dell Venue Pro
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SamsungVibrant said:
My First Impression Of The MyTouch 4G:
The screen on the MyTouch 4G is much higher in resolution. You can barely see pixels. The MyTouch 4G produces real whites, the SuperAmoled produces green/blue whites. However the SAMOLED has a much better contrast ratio, meaning colors pop since blacks are much darker.
The 3.8 inch screen is too small for me
The Build Quality of the 4G seems to be good.
The GPU seemed slower than the Vibrants PowerVR.
The CPU is faster on the 4G.
Now here is the odd part. I must admit I've noticed the same thing with the G2.
Both the G2 and the Mytouch 4G are HSPA+, while the Vibrant is not. However, side by side, running speedtest app. The vibrant EVERY SINGLE TIME had both higher download and upload speeds. It just doesn't make sense. Side by side, the Vibrant got almost 6mbps download. MyTouch 4G best it could do was 3mbps. Same with the G2, I don't get it.
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vibrant and mt4g have the same resolution. 800x480
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There's been no announcement or even real rumor of the sort, unfortunately.
The only thing that's confirmed is "by the end of the year".
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You're wrong.
The source of my info is in the the sentence you quoted.