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Well all I can say is wow. I was expecting my X10 today but ill have to wait until Monday and now after reading the "wish list" thread im not to sure I will even keep it. To all you users out there is this device even worth the money? There are a lot of gripes going on there and I have to say that the negativity surrounding the Timescape and Mediascape apps are a real downer for me. Those are big reasons for me wanting the phone. I guess im looking for some positive feedback here from current owners.
Any thing??
You need to form your own opinion, personally I am more than happy with my X10 but there are a few, niggling issues which could be cleaned up quite simply (and in time I am sure they will be...)
I have friends with the Nexus ONE and HTC phones and they are jealous of my X10, the X10 has issues, but so do the other phones and within my group of friends we all agree that the X10 looks the best, performs the fastest and smoothest. Andriod as an OS still has a little way to go, but it is getting there...
Even with all my concerns, I have no regret in buying the X10, the hardware is excellent, it is beautiful to hold... The software lets it down a bit compaired to the iPhone but you do learn to live with it and I am sure it will improve.
First of all, you should note that only a very small percentage of users of most any product ever bother to post to a forum, and of those the vast majority tend to be the more vocal types in regards to comments, usually for the worse (frankly if you love your device and you're not a techy, you're not likely to bother singing praise all over the internet). I've been part of enought forums over my life to know this (and yes, I admit to being a vocal complainer).
With that said, I think the X10 is a fabulous piece of hardware (as I mentioned in my Wish List posting). Overall, I'm very happy with my choice. But that's not to say the product is perfect. You'll find a fair share of complaints over any other smartphone.
Software issues can always be easily managed through updates by the manufacturer or through using 3rd party apps. I know Timescape and Mediascape are key selling points of the X10 from SE's standpoint, but I think they've been neglecting how good the hardware is in doing that. Mediascape is the better of the two apps from my point of view, but that's not to say that Timescape can't be a great app to some people or to me even with some tweaking.
In the end, it'll come down to your own judgement. I recommend giving it some time to try it out and let the battery settle in. It's good to read and research a purchase before making one (I always do extensively), but it's very easy to get caught up in the wave of emotion from others and lose your own personal objectivity.
NEVER look in a board if u want to buy a piece of hardware!!
1. There are 100 people with 100 different opinions. U will get more confused the more you read
2. In an online board there are always more negative threads about a product than positive ones. Ask yourself have you ever started a thread about a camera that actually does photos? Or an mp3 player that PLAYS music? A TV that lets u WATCH TV? No? So the same here.
All i can say is that the x10 I a great device. A friend of mine has bought the HTC Desire but in my opinion the x10 is much better. When the first fixes are rolled out and the android 2.1 update is available this phone ist a kick ass device!
Well its my personality to become a little obsessed about devices, or whatever im into at the time. I would consider myself a techy, although im relatively new to android, which is why i pose the question. I have spent the last couple of weeks learning everything there is to know about this device so that when I get it I know exactly what to do with it.......sequentially. Little OCD if you get me. So when I join a site like this, made up of power users and devs and I hear them griping about issues it gets me a little paranoid.
Thanks for the reply's and I guess ill have to wait and give it a real go. Much appreciation.
Hi - It's my first Android too.. I've a few friends with iPhones and my Wife has a HTC legend (which is a great bit of kit too!).. but I wouldn't swap my X10 for either of them.. now I've got to grips with the battery life issue I'm moving on to other things.. like saltorio says.. the phones not perfect.. Timescape doesn't really float my boat particularly.. I'm getting to grips with Mediascape now and it's pretty good (other than the fact you have to create your playlists on MediaGo on your PC - unless you can dig out the base Android music player which is hidden on your phone and create them in there..)
The operation of the phone is quick and smooth and the camera is pretty good too. The photo light is a bit limited in it's usefulness.
Apart from anything else.. the handset is gorgeous and makes your friends jealous!
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Well all I can say is wow. I was expecting my X10 today but ill have to wait until Monday and now after reading the "wish list" thread im not to sure I will even keep it. To all you users out there is this device even worth the money? There are a lot of gripes going on there and I have to say that the negativity surrounding the Timescape and Mediascape apps are a real downer for me. Those are big reasons for me wanting the phone. I guess im looking for some positive feedback here from current owners.
Any thing??
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As you can see in the wish list topic, I have several complaints and wishes. But at the same time, this is probably the best phone I ever had, and definitely the best smartphone.
I don't know if the device is worth the money it costs*. What I know, is that there's not a globally better smartphone on the market. I used a Windows Mobile device before the X10, and at work I use massively the iPhone. Android is the junction point between Windows Mobile and the iPhone, the best of both worlds. So, go on with Android. Is X10 the best Android on the market? If you can live without multitouch (and I bet you can!) this is definitely the best Android on the market. If I would lose or broke my X10, I would immediately buy another one.
* Actually, I'm pretty sure that there isn't any electronic device that is worth the money it costs.
personally i think its a very good device. Most of the complaints i see in my opinion are babyish like not getting a device because of multitouch or because it has 1.6, and touch screen response which works perfectly fine on my device ( what do they want? to just think and the device responds? come on now).
Just play with it for a while and make your own opinion based on your needs. Most of these forums have alot of negativity from people that dont make phones.
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I have a long list on my X10 wishlist and many complaints about it too but I still love X10 more than Nexus One or any other touch screen phone I ever used. I had iPhone 3GS for over 6-months too .
Top 4 reason to get X10
1. Sexy looks
2. Beautiful screen
3. very nice UI theme (Blue)
4. Adroid
If you go to the Nexus One or Desire forums, you'll find plenty of issues with those phones as well. There's no such thing as a perfect phone, unfortunately. I've had my X10 for a few days now, and the choice between it and the Desire wasn't easy, but I won't be looking back because it is simply a gorgeous, excellent phone that is not perfect, but certainly good enough and I'm sure it'll only get better with each update Sony Ericsson puts out.
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Well all I can say is wow. I was expecting my X10 today but ill have to wait until Monday and now after reading the "wish list" thread im not to sure I will even keep it. To all you users out there is this device even worth the money? There are a lot of gripes going on there and I have to say that the negativity surrounding the Timescape and Mediascape apps are a real downer for me. Those are big reasons for me wanting the phone. I guess im looking for some positive feedback here from current owners.
Any thing??
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Sorry I forgot to outline that i absolutely love my phone but its my nature to want more. My battery is getting a bashing because i can't put it down, if i'm not listening to music i'm taking photo's, recording videos 50 mins long, checking facebook and tweeter or simply touching it.
Don't be fooled I've not been as happy with an upgrade for 6 years.
Well I appreciate all the feedback. Feeling much better about it now. I can't wait to get my hands on it!! I guess I let myself get carried away with my obsessions some times and ive basically been judging the phone before I even got it. But you must admit that in the short time since its release there is a absolute ton of info on it and most of it is people complaining about this or that. Ive gotten burned by Rogers with their return policy in the past and got stuck with a product that I wasnt' really happy with so im approaching this with caution.
Personally I can live with the lack of MT and considering all the positives that have been presented here im really looking forward to getting started.
Thanks again
I swear this is a serious question... I have posted here and not the Captivate forum because I really want thoughtful responses and not smart-ass answers.
After over a year's wait, the X10 is finally coming to AT&T tomorrow. I've had only Ericssons and Sony Ericssons since 1998. I have always been a fan of SE designs and loved having a unique phone. Perhaps earlier this year I would have immediately jumped on the X10. However, the Samsung Captivate has generally received higher scores, and on multiple reviews, has also been named the best Android phone on AT&T.
I am trying really hard to like the X10 more than the Captivate, but can any X10 owners offer compelling reasons to go with the X10? Please assume the 2.1 update arrives as planned. I understand this is objective, but I really just want the "best" AT&T phone.
So far, my main reasons to go with the X10 are:
1) I love SE phones.
2) I've loved SE cameras, and the X10's appears to perform better than the Captivate's.
3) The camera flash/bright LED light has saved me in more than one situation throughout the years.
4) Mediascape seems to be highly regarded in most of the reviews I have read, and I plan to upload music, pictures, and videos to this phone.
5) I personally like the X10 design more than the Captivate.
Also, a few questions before I play with both phones tomorrow:
1) Does the lack of multi-touch really make a difference?
2) Does the UXP act as clunky as reviews have said it does?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Christian
In my mind x10 is not the best smart phone out there.
It has a os version behind others and lack of mt
I not sure is 2.1 will improve the system as i never tried b4
but if u not a hardcore gamer den mt is not a problem for you.
Lack of mt mean can't play game like pspxdroid smootly
And Samsung Captivate is really a powerful mobile but the power usage is higher too.
X10 is the only phone i know that your phone can last u a day without much worry that your batt will run out till the end of the day if you control your batt usage well.
And i just love the design of the phone i think is the few design that score toe to toe with iphone 4g and that why i go for it. And the problem with all the older os compare to htc/samsumg cause x10 have a sony UI design where making it different. I love the background at the setting page compare to the normal black background (just make you think it not customize before)
But if you got the chances to hold both phone i believe x10 look really great especial the white phone=)
Note: Some other user said: Buying a smart phone is like getting a wife. =)
it never going to be prefect in any way. But if you love it? that good enough.
Hope you pick the right wife for you=)
You already put up 5 good reasons to get the X10 so it sounds to me like you already want it.
As to your questions:
1: Multi touch was impressive when I tried it other phones and was a big negative against me getting the X10, but now that I got the X10 anyway the controls work just fine for me.
2: I'm sure the user experience could be better, I don't like everything about this phone but it seems pretty good overall. I would say as just a phone, the X10 needs some improvement, but as a data device it does everything I need.
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hi im from australia,
we dont have the samsung captivate but we have the samsung galaxy s, and i curently own the SE X10 which i chose over the samsung galaxy s.
i work in a telco shop so i get to play with the galaxy all the time and ive compared it to my x10, and i chose the x10.
this is what ive notices about the 2 handsets.
X10:
the battery life in the start was really bad, but as about 2 weeks passed, the battery actually started lasting longer, must be just because it was new and just needed a few proper charges.
the original software that came on it was a bit laggy an had a few problems with it but im now on the (26) software and its working great
i personally dont care for multi touch and not so much about games either (i have ipod touch and i play all my games on that.
although i have quiet a lot of games on my x10 and they all play great,
i use vignette as my main camera app and the photos i get with it are spectacular you may check them here http://img375.imageshack.us/g/20100710160347439.jpg/
i prefer the screen of the x10, yes i know that the galaxy has a supper amoled, ive had the omnia II i8000 which had an amoled screen and really dont care for it.
with the update the phone will be even better and faster. at the same time as much as i hope we get 2.1 soon and 2.2 following i really dont think that numbers matter too much, i got the phone because it did what i wanted for me.
now on to the GALAXY S:
great supper amoled screen,
16gig internal memory
multi touch
2.1 and soon getting 2.2 which will make it as insane phone especially for games (if thats what you want)
but one thing ive noticed is that when ever i use our store demo which has the latest software and all the same apps as my x10 (i set it up in the same way)
the galaxy s seems to lag a fair bit over time and requires a reboot to fix that.
the only thing that the galaxy has that i really wanted was SWYPE KEYBOARD and i actually got it on my x10 and its working great.
at the same time i see a lot of people buying both these phones, and no one as of yet has come back with problems with them,
i dont know if ive helped much in your decision but i just say pick one that has what you want
To answer some of your questions:
UXP is quite good. That being said, Mediascape should make you change your mind. It's definitely good, but not good enough to die for. You will find better picture viewers (JustPictures) and media players (Rock Player) in the Android market for free.
Captivate has multi-touch, SAMOLED and newer Android. However, it's build quality is weaker.
Multitouch doesnt matter in most apps. Pinch and zoom isn't really a big deal. However, some of the games require multi-touch. Once again, it isn't a deal breaker, but it is important enough to be considered.
Btw, Amazon will be offering X10 with contract for 50 bucks. What is the best deal you can get on the Captivate?
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2) I've loved SE cameras, and the X10's appears to perform better than the Captivate's.
Christian
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Some of the images captured from stock camera, you will see lot of variance in quality due, reason being user.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724314
There's one reason I would not recommend buying a SE phone, cruddy customer support and a desire to have people update to latest phone rather then keep developing older models. They try to make the customers pay over and over for the same stuff, look at the way they treated PSP users who got the new model.
Sony doesn't get enthusiast smart phones, HTC and Apple do; they know that regular on time updates are important to us. That's who I'd be buying a smart phone from. Sony cater to the mass market uneducated customers who dont know how to upgrade their os or don't care.
Upshot, we will get 2.1 very late, we might get 2.2 when everyone is getting 3.0. I'll eat my hat if X10 will get 3.0, by then SE will see it as cannibalizing sales of their newest phone.
Also, x10 lacks the 512 ram that's talked about as likely prerequisite for 3.0. So, it's a well built phone with a limited lifespan. I'd go with an HTC phone for android, they get smartphones and have a prooven track record. Samsung are new at this game, so we will see. The Galaxy build quality is much poorer than SE, HTC or Apple.
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consolation said:
... look at the way they treated PSP users who got the new model.
Sony doesn't get enthusiast smart phones, HTC and Apple do; they know that regular on time updates are important to us. That's who I'd be buying a smart phone from. Sony cater to the mass market uneducated customers who dont know how to upgrade their os or don't care.
Also, x10 lacks the 512 ram that's talked about as likely prerequisite for 3.0. So, it's a well built phone with a limited lifespan. I'd go with an HTC phone for android, they get smartphones and have a prooven track record. Samsung are new at this game, so we will see. The Galaxy build quality is much poorer than SE, HTC or Apple.
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1st Sony and Sony Ericsson are two different companies.
2nd we have plenty of firmware updates but no OS updates. We will have one very soon now. HTC have made a lot more Android phones. This is SE's first and i think they did a pretty good job as well.
3rd there is no prerequisite for Android 3.0. Google haven't said anything about that.
I'd say go with what you really like in your hand and to your eyes. Both are great phones and you will get over many of the cons with either phones with help on several forums.
I owned several phones in the last 3 years and started to like to SE designs more ever since I owned W910. Recently, I owned Nexus One and iPhone 4 but settled with X10 mainly for how it feels in my hands and for the looks.
It has quite a few annoying functionality issues but I got around them after a week or two. I have the white X10a which makes it even more special.
99% of the time I use my phone to make calls, text, googleTalk, Maps, and Browsing. So, MT doesn't even come to my thoughts and 1.6 feels fine.
Some apps that makes X10 even better
1. ADW Launcher
2. CalWidget
3. Beautiful Widgets (Paid App)
4. Weather & Toggle Donate (paid). You don't need if u get Beautiful Widgets.
5. Switch Pro Widget (Paid app)
6. JustPictures (I use Smugmug so, it rocks)
7. MixZing Media Player
8. Data Counter widget (if you don't have unlimited data plan)
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1st Sony and Sony Ericsson are two different companies.
2nd we have plenty of firmware updates but no OS updates. We will have one very soon now. HTC have made a lot more Android phones. This is SE's first and i think they did a pretty good job as well.
3rd there is no prerequisite for Android 3.0. Google haven't said anything about that.
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1) SE is owned 50% by Sony and share lots of board members, marketing etc etc. It's for all intents and purposes a subsidiary company,
2) Yes, firmware updates that FAILED to address basic flaws in the phone, and would have been unnecessary if they rolled out 2.0, 2.1, and we should have 2.2 by now. Instead we are hoping that maybe we can get 2.1 - 6 months late. The phone is well made, no argument, not quite up to Apple standard, but definitely better built than other top tier androids.
SE won't learn if they treat customers like **** and we take it. I'm not sure that they can change their corporate mentality enough to make a difference. It's a massive multi-national, X10 is one of millions of other products ranging from bog rolls to rockets, they will never care as much about any individual product. HTC makes smart phones, they can't afford to get a bad rep, this is good for us, the customers. Even Apple have more at stake with the iPhone. I fear Samsung will head in SE's footsteps, but, I haven't heard much about them either way. Sony has a reputation for spreading their customers' butt cheeks and ramming **** in.
3) The 512MB RAM pre-req has been floated by a number of sources, it will give SE perfect excuse not to give us 3.0; almost like it's been planned...
Also, another reason to avoid SE, we had pretty little progress on hacking the bootloader. Sony are fanatically against modding communities on their products - I wouldn't be surprised if it's never broken.
All in all, if you've already got X10, and it's working fine for you - I wouldn't rush out and sell it. However, you can get better phones from more customer friendly manufacturers nowadays; I would NOT buy a new X10.
kitsVA said:
Some apps that makes X10 even better
1. ADW Launcher
2. CalWidget
3. Beautiful Widgets (Paid App)
4. Weather & Toggle Donate (paid). You don't need if u get Beautiful Widgets.
5. Switch Pro Widget (Paid app)
6. JustPictures (I use Smugmug so, it rocks)
7. MixZing Media Player
8. Data Counter widget (if you don't have unlimited data plan)
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LOL, you've got pretty much same setup as me. I would just add
9)Penetrate 10)Wifi Analyzer 11)Handcent and replace 7) with bTunes
i think that you will have to choose between a good build quality and lack of software upgrades (SE) and moderate build quality but better software support (samsung). I would go with the first choice but there is little chance that the bootloader will be cracked so no custom ROM to compensate SE laziness.
consolation said:
1) SE is owned 50% by Sony and share lots of board members, marketing etc etc. It's for all intents and purposes a subsidiary company,
2) Yes, firmware updates that FAILED to address basic flaws in the phone, and would have been unnecessary if they rolled out 2.0, 2.1, and we should have 2.2 by now. Instead we are hoping that maybe we can get 2.1 - 6 months late. The phone is well made, no argument, not quite up to Apple standard, but definitely better built than other top tier androids.
SE won't learn if they treat customers like **** and we take it. I'm not sure that they can change their corporate mentality enough to make a difference. It's a massive multi-national, X10 is one of millions of other products ranging from bog rolls to rockets, they will never care as much about any individual product. HTC makes smart phones, they can't afford to get a bad rep, this is good for us, the customers. Even Apple have more at stake with the iPhone. I fear Samsung will head in SE's footsteps, but, I haven't heard much about them either way. Sony has a reputation for spreading their customers' butt cheeks and ramming **** in.
3) The 512MB RAM pre-req has been floated by a number of sources, it will give SE perfect excuse not to give us 3.0; almost like it's been planned...
Also, another reason to avoid SE, we had pretty little progress on hacking the bootloader. Sony are fanatically against modding communities on their products - I wouldn't be surprised if it's never broken.
All in all, if you've already got X10, and it's working fine for you - I wouldn't rush out and sell it. However, you can get better phones from more customer friendly manufacturers nowadays; I would NOT buy a new X10.
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I'm sorry but why the **** did you get a SE phone for in the first place? You seem to really hate SE down to the core and yet you support them by buying their products, seems very strange to me. And SE has been totally open from the beginning with the OS issue and you should very well have known what you purchased, if not, the only failer here is you and not SE. And just look at the magics they have worked on 1.6! The only real difference from 2.1 is a tidy bit slower kernel and no live wallpapers, appart from that SE really did transform 1.6 in a fantastic way and i high hopes for further releases.
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I'm sorry but why the **** did you get a SE phone for in the first place? You seem to really hate SE down to the core and yet you support them by buying their products, seems very strange to me. And SE has been totally open from the beginning with the OS issue and you should very well have known what you purchased, if not, the only failer here is you and not SE. And just look at the magics they have worked on 1.6! The only real difference from 2.1 is a tidy bit slower kernel and no live wallpapers, appart from that SE really did transform 1.6 in a fantastic way and i high hopes for further releases.
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Here's the 1.6 vs 2.1 difference:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.1.html
Although, I agree with you that SE have made 1.6 a LOT better than the stock version.
And I think we'll get 2.2 at least because of this:
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/15260820648
But, when we'll get it, is the problem.
@CinCa0989
I would choose the Samsung Captivate if you want to play 3D games on your phone, due to its better gpu and multitouch capability.
I would also choose it if you want the latest software, whatever it is.
If you don't care about 3d games, multitouch or updates, get the X10.
Also, choose the X10, if you like taking pictures, and want better-looking videos. It will have 720p recording soon (by Q3 end), and an LED is better than no LED.
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I'm sorry but why the **** did you get a SE phone for in the first place? You seem to really hate SE down to the core and yet you support them by buying their products, seems very strange to me. And SE has been totally open from the beginning with the OS issue and you should very well have known what you purchased, if not, the only failer here is you and not SE. And just look at the magics they have worked on 1.6! The only real difference from 2.1 is a tidy bit slower kernel and no live wallpapers, appart from that SE really did transform 1.6 in a fantastic way and i high hopes for further releases.
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Don't apologise for SE, you sound like someone in an abusive relations who takes any scraps thrown at you as evidence of "love." He hits me 'cause he loves me... SE took people who paid for a premium phone for a ride, no excuses, premium products should come with premium support. I don't hate SE, they are big corp acting like big corps do, but I don't have to like getting shafted.
TBH, I got it for my GF who wanted a decent camera; she used it for a couple of weeks, said "what a piece of crap" and got an iPhone 4. Although her beef was more with the flea market, sorry, android marketplace and the OS rather than the hardware - well she had some pretty strong opinions on the lack of multitouch. Since I need an android phone for work, I ditched my MT3G and hanged on to the XPERIA. I actually think there's a great phone struggling to be set free in there; if we could get 2.2 & ditch all the Sony crapola we'd be rocking.
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TBH, I got it for my GF who wanted a decent camera; she used it for a couple of weeks, said "what a piece of crap" and got an iPhone 4. Although her beef was more with the flea market, sorry, android marketplace and the OS rather than the hardware - well she had some pretty strong opinions on the lack of multitouch. Since I need an android phone for work, I ditched my MT3G and hanged on to the XPERIA. I actually think there's a great phone struggling to be set free in there; if we could get 2.2 & ditch all the Sony crapola we'd be rocking.
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Hey guys no need to be rude. The OP asked for personal opinion and not smart-ass answers .As far as "what a piece of crap" goes did you mean the camera is crap or the phone? In my opinion X10 has one of the best camera if not the best available in Android phones.
Yes the camera is as good as they get. My only issue is lack of mic levels so it's hard to record gigs without clipping.
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I'll keep it short. I apologize for my previous post, not knowing another fellas background story. I'm just really tired of all the whining on pree release knowledge. I'm happy with my phone, prolly spent 15-20h gathering knowledge before purchase. Peace ppl, and i hope the OP will be happy with whatever choice he makes!
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LOL, you've got pretty much same setup as me. I would just add
9)Penetrate 10)Wifi Analyzer 11)Handcent and replace 7) with bTunes
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How did I forget Handcent? Maybe I use it so much that I feel it's the default Messaging app. Need to check out how the default one is .
Ok so I tried to play sonic and I couldn't jump n run, I've been tolerant to no mt, but now that a couple apps I've been paying for needs multi touch I'm starting to really hate my phone, its an iphone killer, but I can't take this much longer, dear sony, get off your rich ass and fix this, or give me the beta of 2.1 n I'll shutup, I'm sorry, I never rant but jeez sony get your act together... How do you feel, hopefully if sony sees this with all the complaints in one forum they might actually get off their lazy ass, if anyone is offended off my post I'm sorry...
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Nope! Love it as it is. Sorry! Being impatient will make your blood pressure boil and add to your stress level. Just relax, it will come very soon or sell your phone and get the latest one...
Couldn't care less for mt. Love the phone just as it is now...no promises 2.1 will bring mt either and again I couldn't care less...but why did you get this phone knowing it didn't have mt?
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IMO its better than the iPhone and most other phones but it couldve been WAY better if it had MT and up to date android.
I am really sorry, but I always laugh when I read people are really really, angry because they can't play some game well on their phone. Buy yourself a psp or ps3, or one of the other great game consuls, the graphics and sound is a hundred times better. If you are really into games than you have to admit playing a game on your phone is fun to kill some time, but not for playing seriously...
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I play a few games on mine, particularly zenonia, but nothing seriously. Try the psx emulator, i was really suprised how well it runs. I'm happy with it as it is, but i am looking forward to 2.1 and a bootloader hack working.
If MT is such a huge issue for playing your games just set the Camera button as your Jump button there you go problem solved
in recing games set the (camera key) to accellerate and the (volume up key) for Brake
there you go no more multi-touch issues now stop complaining people =P
Actually I'm very happy with my x10... specially since I've got it to the latest firmware, I had a milestone before (which has Multi-touch) and I take the xperia any day, better battery life, sleeker design, faster processor, better internal memory, and when it gets 2.1 it will be even better!!
I don't think that we'll get mt with 2.1 and I really don't mind, if you really need games get a psp as was said above or a phone that you know has mt...
I got pissed when I unboxed this phone. First you see the phone and below it there were some low-quality straight out of hell earphones. I mean, with a phone like this at least give in-ear phones...
A cord might've been usefull too, the phone is so big that when I try to operate it with one hand, I get afraid because it feels like it will drop.
Well... i like my X10, but Se F***D UP this one.If they launch the X10 with the latest software and MT then this phone would be one of the best ones arround.
But i like it this way too.
It doesn't bother me because I knew it didn't have mt when I bought it.
For snes games I set volume up, and down as left and right, this allows me to use all on screen controls, find it works well for racing to.
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I just can't understand why people buy a PHONE! That since BEFORE release has been told by SE has NO MT. And then start crying and wining and *****ing about it not having MT, you sad sorry bunch.. you bought the wrong phone ppl! *sigh*
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I got pissed when I unboxed this phone. First you see the phone and below it there were some low-quality straight out of hell earphones. I mean, with a phone like this at least give in-ear phones...
A cord might've been usefull too, the phone is so big that when I try to operate it with one hand, I get afraid because it feels like it will drop.
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I got regular phones, in-ear phones, extension cord and the bt headset mw600. But i probably paid more for mine. About 580 euro.
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You got what you bought. Stop whinning!!!!!!!
Tjotte said:
I just can't understand why people buy a PHONE! That since BEFORE release has been told by SE has NO MT. And then start crying and wining and *****ing about it not having MT, you sad sorry bunch.. you bought the wrong phone ppl! *sigh*
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I think people bought the phone knowing it didn't have MT due to 1.6 but not that it will never have MT, because SE decided to be cheap and not include hardware support for MT. They still push the fact that it has MT on their US website, sad when the maker of the phone isn't clear if it has MT or not.
Regardless of how you feel about MT it is a mistake for SE not to have the feature. When 2.1 finally comes out if it doesn't give the X10 MT functionality that's the thing that will be reported the most, no matter what else they got right with the release. Because of SE's already weak position in the market they can't afford stupid moves like this.
The MT isn't important argument reminds me of the MMS is not important argument IPhone fanboys used before the IPhone had MMS . I hardly use MMS but still like that I have the option to send one.
Im realy disapointed with the phone two
First of all I thought it was smaller and that it had a larger screen
And it has way to short battery life I was expecting 2 month batt time And look what We got
I dosent even have the 100Watt amp with speakers that I expected, no HD tv receiver no cofee maker no wheels no ..........
in answer to the OP's question...... No, I'm not.
Actually, re: headphones. My x10 came with a pair of really good ones. A friend got his @ duty free (Singapore airport iirc) and his ones are just vile. Even the plastic feels crappier.
So do different markets get different accessories?
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Yep - UK got cheapo headset.. Canada (I think) got the MW600... But the prices and contracts are all different too... I got a free handset on £30 a month for 2 years... unlimited data, tonnes of texts and minutes (more that I'll ever use!)..
i am a business management student...so i thought of sharing my perspective over how Sony Ericsson is playing the smartphone game...
by exagerrating a lot before the product launch ...and after the launch..giving small doses of updates so customers dont change phone in the hope of getting new features.
think of it..
they build great hype for a product months before the launch by strong advertising (probably spending more on ads than R&D itself) , promising a revolutionary interface with ground breaking custom interfaces....X panels for X1 (remember?) and timescape/mediascape (biggest garbage) for X10 ..both over-ambitious
just so they can differentiate from other companies..
ya they have great product design.. which initially attracts impulse buyers...they build anticipation...so we cant wait to get our hands on their phone!
and then they finally launch the product which will NEVER have the latest updates because their entire focus was on marketing the product i.e bringing it to market before competition and capturing market share.
they never really focussed on industry shaking R&D like Apple..c'mon without Apple, touchscreen was a dead market.
and without Android...Apple had a monopoly.
This is revolution....not timescape or mediascape..which are my least favourite apps...battery sucking with extremely slow response rates.
then they ll keep launching small small updates over couple of months...more like over a year...adding little features..so we dont change brand loyalty....giving the wounded customers a faint vision of hope...
finally they release a small update and the entire community goes 'wow' with excitement...like a virgin getting his first blowjob.
by that time..the phone has suffered scratches, has started showing signs of wear..which means very low re-sale value.
and meanwhile announcement for newer model is made...slimmer, sexier with more bugs which will be fixed via update over the next upcoming year.
good strategy for a short-term profit making....but they are losing brand loyalty.
i am not gonna buy SE Xperia Arc...ya its the sexiest phone on the market.
but its like a hot model u bang and can never have a healthy relationship with...coz she is dumb and full of flaws on the inside...such as daddy issues etc.
/rant
its like they keep us jumping over small small updates like a cat does to a string which the master will never let it catch.
but its like a hot model u bang and can never have a healthy relationship with...coz she is dumb and full of flaws on the inside...such as daddy issues etc.
epic comment
well it's true and from your perspective which one is better?
i know getting a big income is the main focus of any company but hey customers loyalty also counts. it's something i hate from sony in general, they keep pushing new tech every year and let the customer to feel outdated
Epic thread.
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Couldn't have said it better myself, spot on mate!
Swyped from my ZDZ Froyo X10i
bang on, while i am happy with my x10 as it was my first droid comming from a long **** list of wm devices, i am also not going to be sticking with se, already contemplating the droid 2 global, yes se makes sexy phones but, im looking for something a little more with my next device.
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Funny thread
so what do you think about HTC's strategy with Desire ( Desire/HD/Z )
Just because they released a better handset after a year of the previous handset's release it doesn't mean that they do not care about brand loyalty...
so what? you want them to stick with the X10 for two years while other competitors advance with technology????
believe it or not, many will buy the ARC, even more that who bought the X10...
Next time, go buy an HTC or Motorola
and by the way, Samsung is locking their bootloader so do not buy a Samsung android so you won't end up whining like many here about unlocking it, unless you like samsung
but despite all that, I would like to thank you for the effort made by you to explain what many of us are not aware of.. it's a good practice for your uni
good luck mate with your studies
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i am a business management student...so i thought of sharing my perspective over how Sony Ericsson is playing the smartphone game...
by exagerrating a lot before the product launch ...and after the launch..giving small doses of updates so customers dont change phone in the hope of getting new features.
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Well, I wish you luck with the business management, since your management of the English language makes me want to punch babies in the stomach.
Also, replace "Sony Ericsson" with every technology company ever and you have a point.
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Well, I wish you luck with the business management, since your management of the English language makes me want to punch babies in the stomach.
Also, replace "Sony Ericsson" with every technology company ever and you have a point.
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Grammar and syntax of the English language is not the point of XDA in MHO...
Very well written, kudos to you Nocturnal310...
@Nocturnal310:
Of course you're right. But as someone said before, you could say this about any company producing technical stuff and you would be right as well. (I expect some very negative comments on what I'm about to say...). I understand your point, but I just don't think that SE is somehow different in their approach from any other company producing consumer goods (is that right? stuff which are bought in great numbers just to be replaced by newer models...you know, we have to watch out for our English, right iead1? ). Thats quite important because we just can't expect infinite support for our product, because sooner or later (the former is more probable) it will get replaced with brand new model with brand new stuff inside making it lot more attractive. The only thing we can complain about is, that the support may have last longer... thats true. But despite all of that, I'm still not changing the brand loyalty as I just dont know what else should I buy next time. I dont like Apple and their iStuff, also don't like HTCs because of how they look. Samsung is an option, but if I should choose between Samsung and SE just by looking at the phones, SE would definitely win (and with Samsung locking their bootloaders as well, I wouldn't help myself much by buying it). You may call me a hardcore fan of SE who doesn't think about what he's buying, but thats not me. I just think that X10 was an unfortunate mistake (which I personally still love!) of SE and I really hope they will learn from it for the reasons mentioned above.
Thats my opinion and I do not force anyone to share it, but I wanted to say it, because I just don't uderstand all that poeople saying how betrayed they feel by SE.
i think SE`s problem is that they don`t really know what they do,at least so far.
they use UIQ for a while then they leave it.
they use win mo,but after x1 and x2 they desided to go for android.
but now Android is very good platform and they should find their way.i hope so.
their main mistake is that they don`t care about customers and the weak points of their products.
I must add my mustard ...
There was a time long ago, Sony Ericsson created really nice phones with a solid build quality. My x10 is 3 weeks old and is making crazy noises when twisted a bit. The whole frame is not stiff enough.
If I saw it right on arc video presentations at youtube, the crappy timescape is now a widget and it is still choppy. This uggly blue is still there. Why blue? SE colors are Green and Orange. What a bunch of stupid designers ... I think w'll have a lot of alternatives out there with lesser crappy UI-Mods.
Well, I agree with most of your points, but let's remember: they're not ceasing support, they're launching a new model and planningto lock x10 customers in outdated Android. Motorola intended to do that too, but customers did such a big buzz that they changed their minds. The bull**** about low performance on Android 2.2 is already discarded, we can see that on all the unofficially built ROMs available at xda-forums. I risk to say that even Google has his part on this entire drama. Obviously, Sony Ericsson and their UXP loaded with much more processing hunger than x10 can support is the one we should blame, because we chose to buy SE, not Google devices (which are HTC, actually ). The removal of MediaScape from Arc tells us that they know where the problem is. Let's hope they fix this "problem" on x10 too.
I truly hope no one takes my comments personally, since I'm just expressing my opinion as a SE consumer. I still like them, but not how they use my money.
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Apple Iphone 3G is still getting latest updates - same day as the latest iPhone 4, not ALL the features because it's got old hardware but there aware of that.
SE should be aware of it to, yes x10 can run 2.1 2.2, 2.3 ect so they should. There opinion is why there not updating. (why not the majority, the users decide)
Why can't we get hardware based updates? HTC magic/hero got tons of updates..
Yes new models will come out, but it's the same OS to update, not that much off a difference, our devs do there work in spare time and takes 2-3 weeks to come up with ASOP OS, (which is what i prefer anyway). Imagine an entire DEV team full time? yes it takes more time for testing ect but still.....
At least SE have reconized they F'd up. that's the first step!
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At least SE have reconized they F'd up. that's the first step!
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They say a lot. Saying and doing are not the same.
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The removal of MediaScape from Arc tells us that they know where the problem is. Let's hope they fix this "problem" on x10 too.
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I think they removed the mediascape app because it was so hard to new people to find the music player and photo gallery.
just think about it:
you have a new phone, and you would like to play some music, you first go to the music player but you can't find it because there is no music icon on the menu
Grab a samsung phone and try to play some music, the player is called "Music", the video player is "Videos" and the gallery is "Gallery"
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Apple Iphone 3G is still getting latest updates - same day as the latest iPhone 4, not ALL the features because it's got old hardware but there aware of that.
SE should be aware of it to, yes x10 can run 2.1 2.2, 2.3 ect so they should. There opinion is why there not updating. (why not the majority, the users decide)
Why can't we get hardware based updates? HTC magic/hero got tons of updates..
Yes new models will come out, but it's the same OS to update, not that much off a difference, our devs do there work in spare time and takes 2-3 weeks to come up with ASOP OS, (which is what i prefer anyway). Imagine an entire DEV team full time? yes it takes more time for testing ect but still.....
At least SE have reconized they F'd up. that's the first step!
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You are comparing with 2 companies with different calibers.
Apple - every designer/ad agency/design house/design school in this world purchase their 'godly' machines for work purposes. And these macs don't come cheap, mind you. With that amount of revenue, they can afford to create an iPhone, using their 'lagless' (yeah, right) macintosh reputations to breed a colony of iZombies to support their cause.
With the iZombies having the need to own a iAmagodlyproduct, with such supporters pumping money into their pockets, they can afford to offset any losses by being nice to
Update old iPhones even if new models are out, cos they know iZombies are already impressed with them playing the nice card and that they are confident that with their good reputation and a better new phone out, A majority of iZombies who have too much money to spare will still buy it. They are just giving an aww-I understand-you-can't-afford-a-new-phone-yet-so-I-will-update-you-periodically-so-that-you-will-come-back-to-me-when-you-have-money message to the poorer parties.
Now for Sony Ericsson (or just insert any other brand names). Let me ask you. Though they are an established brand, but let me ask you, how many people will own 1 of those expensive TVs or VAIOS? Comparing with Apple, no competition.
They don't have that much extra revenue to play nice. They can only strategize and try to earn as such as possible before their products become obsolete.
It's just like people like Donald Trump, who has so much money to play with, he can just give away to some random person on the street if he wants to. But if you try doing up a business yourself, would you give away your money to charity organizations, knowing that you cannot afford to spend the money that way? Most probably not. Unless you don't mind closing down your business due to losses.
All these threads are getting sooooooo repetitive!!! There should be one big sticky for anyone who wants to ***** and complain in any way shape and form about SE. That way this form isn't flooded with every thread turning into a SE bashing thread. It really is getting tiring logging on to see what's new and the first 50 threads are people *****in about SE.
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Lonelee - agree with much of what you say.. but it is also true that there are many many many people who go back time and time again to buy the next apple product BECAUSE they know that Apple will not leave the OS lagging behind on the old device when a new one comes out.. it's spectacularly good brand loyalty. SE (and many other) are taking a very short term view, and a missing a great opportunity to get us all on the hook for the next product..
In the UK for example, many phones bought on contract are free with a 2 yr contract tie in.. so if I know that they will look after me for 2 years, then I'll go back for more.. my contract's not due until Feb 2012.. so I'm eagerly awaiting to see their behaviour over the next 12 months!
well I m back on XDA after exiting from blackberry platform...blackberry provided me a stable messaging device for a while but as needs changed, it was very poor for browsing and getting work with attachments done.
i was at a party few weeks ago and my friend took out his Xperia Z claiming this is the best camera phone.
to his disappointment, it was the darkest blurriest pic i have seen whereas my lumia 920 took a pic with DSLR-like clarity and image characteristics.
i am not sure how much sony has improved but seems like they are still a market follower and using marketing dollars to brag about their phones that do not perform as advertised.
after having wasted my student savings on 2 of their phones, I regret and wish I had bought a better phone for my first android experience.
product lifecycle
Hi,
I am not sure if I should blame any company for moving to newer (and maybe better) products. In the android phone market we have the nearly unique situation to be able to get our hands and minds at the software which is driving the product, at least partly.
This is quite different from cars or coffeemakers.
What I would like to from Sony is that when they decide to abandon a product (eg X10), they open up the sources of drivers etc, so that interested people can maintain their products for themselves.
I can understand that they wont open up the sources for current products.
A.
Hi All,
I am from Singapore, my contract is going to end in April..
I am just curious which phone I should go for??
I am more diverted towards Xperia Play
Its not that I hate my X10i or anything else so please no war zone here
Just genuine suggestions with some valid point, thanks in advance!!
samsung galaxy 2 i would say
after all sony will lock the bootloader again
with the galaxy, u can directly install cyanogen roms =D
if you like, nothing can stop you
Arc or Pro
Your choice
personally i would like to get the optimus 2x if good roms are released for it, if not galaxy s II. If your happy to go with SE again then go for it, personally i dont want to wait a year 2.4. Im still unconvinced that they've learnt from the x10...
i believe they have becuase they stated that it takes long with x10 due to mediascape and timescape being so deeply integrated into the system. But with new phones they are just apps and thats it.
Depends on your budget too? I'm guessing the mid-range plans will fetch SGD$600 or so ba...
And if you're lucky enough, complains of X10 have reached M1/Singtel/Starhub's ears and they will try decrease the price in order to get more people to get?
I know... In my dreams =/
I feel like changing to Arc, which, is against my principles of holding on to a phone until it dies off... Ah well, see how it goes ba...
Why not get something that's really a step up from the x10? Dual core, with really good specs like the atrix or something.. Why get basically another x10? Also why trust se have learned anything at all...
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Why not get something that's really a step up from the x10? Dual core, with really good specs like the atrix or something.. Why get basically another x10? Also why trust se have learned anything at all...
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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OP said no warzone, you just fed this warzone...
They're just saying, not always Sony Ericsson, XDA forums is for ALL brands and manufacturers, people can state what they want...
Also.. the word "step-up" is subjective to everyone, to some it'll just mean the newer version with just some extra specs (so keeping in line with Sony Ericsson stuff), to some it'll be just something much technically better (could be any company with just a better hardware padded phone)...
So no more arguments now,
The OP is looking for a new phone, let's help him make a well-informed choice.
Arc is looking great. Some other Android Phones looking ugly and have the ugly stock Android Style but the SE Phones always have great Styles and Android with good Style is the best. Thats what i like about SE but i dont know if my next Phone is a SE Phone i need to look if they learned their lessons and how the Arc will do.
Arc is the best looking forthcoming handset... however, think I'd go for the NEO.. Front facing camera, and slightly smaller.. the rest of the spec seem pretty much the same (off the top of my head!)
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Arc and whatever new Xperias are a step up -_-
And none of the Sony Ericsson phones have dual core, for your info.
It's not another X10. It's an Arc. X10 mini and X10mini pro are another X10. X10 doesn't have multitouch, 4.2" screen, sexy body and 2.3 OS. Alot of you guys have been complaining about the X10 not having multitouch, right? So now you got your wish. And you still complain -_-
Nobody ever said they trust Sony Ericsson has learnt anything. No matter what, they will still be a money-minded company and come out with a phone sexier than Arc and a 2.4 OS in it to make us drool over it and buy next year. The cycle never ends. As long as they can come up with a new design that attract customers, they are the winners.
If anybody buys an Arc and complains about no further OS updates or this time can't even hack the phone at all, it's them who never learn. This is how Sony Ericsson works, so either suck it up, or change brands and stay out of here in order not to piss anyone off.
Possibly no OS upgrades, or maybe just 1, hacker-unfriendly phone, applications which you cannot uninstall. these elements are here to stay. So don't complain about these in future cos you have been there, done that.
Please get your facts right before trying to stir up trouble. The guy wants opinions, not give haters like you a chance to further diss the products.
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I'm not talking about a little baby step, I'm talking about a bigger jump. If you're going to be stuck with a phone for possibly three years, why not get one that will at least have some staying power as far as specs go?
Jesus you are one uptight douche...
When did I say anything about SE having dual core? Apparently you have trouble reading. The OP said an SE phone OR SOMETHING ELSE. I suggested the atrix.
I love my x10 but I just feel like these new models aren't enough of a leap in specs to really consider it an "upgrade".
I have just as much of a right to state my opinion as I do, what is funny is that you just happen to consider your own opinion (and that is all it is...) fact, while anyone else's are apparently wrong..
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OP said no warzone, you just fed this warzone...
They're just saying, not always Sony Ericsson, XDA forums is for ALL brands and manufacturers, people can state what they want...
Also.. the word "step-up" is subjective to everyone, to some it'll just mean the newer version with just some extra specs (so keeping in line with Sony Ericsson stuff), to some it'll be just something much technically better (could be any company with just a better hardware padded phone)...
So no more arguments now,
The OP is looking for a new phone, let's help him make a well-informed choice.
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Uh huh. See the way he responds, and you accuse me of starting the war. Zzzz.
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I'm not talking about a little baby step, I'm talking about a bigger jump. If you're going to be stuck with a phone for possibly three years, why not get one that will at least have some staying power as far as specs go?
Jesus you are one uptight douche...
When did I say anything about SE having dual core? Apparently you have trouble reading. The OP said an SE phone OR SOMETHING ELSE. I suggested the atrix.
I love my x10 but I just feel like these new models aren't enough of a leap in specs to really consider it an "upgrade". Maybe not for tech geeks like you, but definitely for people who just want a good-looking gadget to own.
I have just as much of a right to state my opinion as I do, what is funny is that you just happen to consider your own opinion (and that is all it is...) fact, while anyone else's are apparently wrong..
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Because it looks nicer and has better specs? DUH. And with their tactics, it's getting hard to stay faithful with the phone for too long. I myself am a self-professed faithful owner who claimed to stay with the same phone until it dies off or gets stolen or lost, but seeing the Arc, I myself am thinking of getting it, contradicting my own beliefs and principles. Even the topic starter is contemplating, as well as other existing Rachael owners.
Admit it nor not, Sony Ericsson is good at making eyecandy stuff which makes people wanna own it.
I'm not Jesus, but thanks for thinking highly of me. By the way, calling me a douche shows you are no better than me =D
Yeah. SOMETHING ELSE. NOT SOME OTHER BRANDS. He already hinted by giving the former 2 models as the same brands an example. Sony Ericsson doesn't even have Atrix. Apparently YOU'RE the one who have trouble reading. Anyway why get so hyped up with dual core when it might be a worse juice sucker, making you complain about further short battery life? I'd rather wait till things are getting stable over time rather than advancements that are unpredictable.
You don't feel so but he feels so.
If you want to state opinions, STATE POSITIVE OPINIONS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PISS OTHERS OFF, KIDDO. By doubting Sony Ericsson's integrity, you, too, are thinking you are right while they are wrong. So that doesn't make you any better than me.
Whatever stuff you say about me basically reflects it on you as well.
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Arc is looking great. Some other Android Phones looking ugly and have the ugly stock Android Style but the SE Phones always have great Styles and Android with good Style is the best. Thats what i like about SE but i dont know if my next Phone is a SE Phone i need to look if they learned their lessons and how the Arc will do.
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If you don't harbor any expectations like getting it hacked or expecting further OS updates, it should be fine. =D
But one thing deterring me is the lack of Mediascape. I'm more of a multimedia kinda person, so I prefer good music players... And see whether will the Arc have Japanese keyboard (and hopefully, a Cantonese keyboard too).
I totally agree with you about the other droids not looking pretty... Actually Google Nexus One was alright, with live wallpaper and all, comparing with the then-Rachael without live wallpapers. But after reading reviews by owners that the music player was sucky, I decided to wait for Rachael instead, trusting Sony's music players through experience. And best of all, Racharl has Japanese language and input installed in it! That was totally great news.
Guess it all boils down to priorities. The factors in the phone which makes you wanna own. I knew Rachael had no live wallpapers, and no multitouch, yet I still bought it. With no regrets. Haha.
And don't go to the updates part. I did not own any phones which are software upgradable in the past, so I didn't count on it, expecting the company too lazy to invest their time updating something that they've gotten rid of and start planning on making better phones.
Something else means not other brands, yet I'm the one with trouble reading lol... Is like to see where he said that..you seem to be making his statement your own. You have some real issues dude.
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Something else means not other brands, yet I'm the one with trouble reading lol... Is like to see where he said that..you seem to be making his statement your own. You have some real issues dude.
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I've already explaint how he used examples to support his phrase. If you can't understand even my explanations, you can forget about accusing me for having trouble reading.
Again, this is a good example of what you say about others being reflected on you too.
Yeah. And my issue is YOU.
Haha he said or something else, not or something else sony necessarily...
Take your prozac man...
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Haha he said or something else, not or something else sony necessarily...
Take your prozac man...
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yeah. Something else like Neo or Pro or whatever they have. DUH.
If he is thinking or alternatives, he would have asked Arc, HTC or some other brands?