I benchmarked a droid 2 with froyo - Droid X General

i went to an undisclosed event and launched quadrants on a moto droid 2 and was very Disappointed with the results it only scored an average of 899 even with froyo installed I also had the chance to run linpack and it only scored 12s and below. The thing that got me is it was in out of the box condition it wasn’t activated I had to put it on wifi to access the market so it was all stock and just bloated out really really bad so all those that were holding their breath for the droid 2 I would say go get a droid x. sorry no pics the moto rep caught me trying

Quadrant was low... Maybe due to the gpu? But the linpack in the 12s is pretty high for stock!
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That almost makes no since considering that i average 1200 on quadrant now so i can't imagine after the 450% speed increase
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the JIT is not on/running. Check out all droid. The purchased a dev dx running 2.2 and enabled JIT and ran a benchmark. 1558

Also when i first benchmarked my x it was extremely low, i don't know why, but my score doubled and as i stated on droid-life.com i was able to play with a D2 in stow and its quadrant was nearly twice what my x usually gets. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that moto is going to push a feoyo to the x that will slow it down. Let's just chill guys, besides, we will b able to hopefully flash roms soo. Enough considering that there is now officially a droid x with a custom recovery, when froyo gets to us it will b rock solid ori will buy the fascinate. Bottom line.
Edit: 1558 on the x with froyo is still low, once everything is running as it should b its money in the bank that it will b over 2000+
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Quadrant was low... Maybe due to the gpu? But the linpack in the 12s is pretty high for stock!
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not for (a jit enabled) froyo!
first i really wanted to buy the D2 but the locked bootloader killed it for me!
now i have the galaxy s and get 2200+ on android2.1 ... in your face motorola

jodue said:
not for (a jit enabled) froyo!
first i really wanted to buy the D2 but the locked bootloader killed it for me!
now i have the galaxy s and get 2200+ on android2.1 ... in your face motorola
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My guess is you are using the speed hack where you mount the apps/data to the SD Card. After talking to a coworker who did the same thing, he found the phone was no faster. It's because Quadrant is getting 'artificial' rw speeds from writing to the SD Card. Turns out the commands are being sent but are being queued (at least that's how it was explained) so nothing is terribly faster, at least not till FroYo.
Though the 3D tests did get a large FPS jump. Hopefully we can do something similar with the X.

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My guess is you are using the speed hack where you mount the apps/data to the SD Card. After talking to a coworker who did the same thing, he found the phone was no faster. It's because Quadrant is getting 'artificial' rw speeds from writing to the SD Card. Turns out the commands are being sent but are being queued (at least that's how it was explained) so nothing is terribly faster, at least not till FroYo.
Though the 3D tests did get a large FPS jump. Hopefully we can do something similar with the X.
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not exactly. there is a new fix which creates a virtual ext2 partition for the data(base) files ... it sounds dumb but makes sense because the crappy rfs from samsung seems to kill db performance which was the reason for the lagging in the 1st place. this fix actually improves the responsiveness of the device. switches between apps are a lot faster.
but you are right of course, benchmark results don't show real life performance ...

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nexus vs motorola droid (for owners of both)

So I have this ongoing debate with a friend about who has the better phone. The droid has such a biased and idiotic fanboy mentality I really get a worse feeling than I did with apple. Benchmarks bla bla bla droid overclocked out the wazzoo (probably unstable as hell) gets better benchmarks then the nexus oook. Better screen? Better touch sensors? Better 3D? I'm really sick of hearing about it when I've personally used both and think the nexus is better.
The droid seems slow and sluggish moving around menus... even on 2.1 it was slow. The screen seemed to tear and was nowhere near as snappy as my nexus is.
Graphics okay.. sure the droid may perform with higher fps than the Nexus but I really don't care about that. If I wanted to play games on my phone I would get an iPhone which kills all android devices without a doubt. If this is a competition about gaming and graphics the app store and 3D-optimized iPhones are always going to win that debate. To be honest, I haven't even downloaded nor played 1 game on my Nexus since I bought it.
The fact is, I bought the nexus because I want productivity out of my phone. I want to be able to move around quickly through the OS and be able to text, make phone calls, and see my appointments on the screen with ease. Not only that but durability and resistance to daily wear are very important to me. I love the fact that I've had my Nexus since day one, with 0 protection and there is not a single scratch ANYWHERE.
Anyways, this isn't really a rant or "another droid vs nexus" thread (err well I guess it is kinda) but I am just curious for those of you who do infact have BOTH devices to explain your unbiased comments. I don't care about bogus overclocking and stupid benchmarks... I am curious as to how it all boils down when you use it throughout the day; which is a better experience and why?
Oh and if you are super elite and have an EVO as well, I'd be very happy to hear how you rate them all overall. The reason I'm having this debate with myself is because I'm considering leaving ATT for a CDMA carrier but the Nexus is what's keeping me with ATT atm.
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Nexus One:
- $50/mo contract free for voice and data
- Froyo + future updates immediately
- 1ghz processor
Motorola Droid:
- $70/mo with 2 year lockdown for voice and data
- No updates till months after due to Verizon stall
- 660mhz processor
Either way it's not really a competition for me. I am happy for all the brothers out there that get an android phone and increase the user base.
If I had to choose though I would def go with the Nexus One due to these 3 reasons.
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Nexus One:
- $50/mo contract free for voice and data
- Froyo + future updates immediately
- 1ghz processor
Motorola Droid:
- $70/mo with 2 year lockdown for voice and data
- No updates till months after due to Verizon stall
- 660mghz processor
Either way it's not really a competition for me. I am happy for all the brothers out there that get an android phone and increase the user base.
If I had to choose though I would def go with the Nexus One due to these 3 reasons.
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That 660MGHz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 GHz, right?
droid seems sluggish..
Not only do i have both phones but I had the Droid first and everyone who knows me was always standing up for it against the n1 guys. that being said... I refuse to use the Droid any more and will only use the N1. nuff said.
my co-worker as a droid.
i did one swipe at the screen to scroll through the menus. stopped. and gave it back to him.
lag. lag. lag. no thanks.
i mean the nexus one has it's lags i guess but nothing compared to that.
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That 660MGHz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 GHz, right?
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Sorry for the misprint
its pretty much common knowledge that the nexus one has the droid beat. both are great phones though, but there is not really anything to debate here. the nexus has better hardware, except maybe for the possibility of a weaker gpu chipset. but run some benchmarks between the two phones, what frames per second do each get? i bet the nexus can match is somewhat.
What about the droid incredible? That is a pretty sweet phone, except for the back cover.
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that 660mghz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 ghz, right?
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its over 9000!!!
adamhlj said:
What about the droid incredible? That is a pretty sweet phone, except for the back cover.
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That back cover looks awesome..... don't know how it would feel holding though.. probably feel weird.
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That back cover looks awesome..... don't know how it would feel holding though.. probably feel weird.
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It really doesn't feel that weird when you hold it. I was surprised as I thought it would.
Nexus: better colors
Droid: better resolution and sharpness
Nexus: nicer design and lighter
Droid: physical keyboard
Nexus: faster updates, cooler mods, great benchmark over froyo
Droid: over eclair is faster if overclocked
Droid: better speaker phone, louder sound, stronger wifi and 3g signal, but gets extremely hot while using gps
Nexus: f###ing sexier!
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lets see the nexus one overclock 220%
The Droid is very stable, even clocked above 1GHZ. I personally prefer to go no higher than than that to keep heat down. I do like the N1's form factor more. I'm among the group of people who actually likes having a trackball.
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lets see the nexus one overclock 220%
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I'm pretty sure the Droid is stock underclocked and the N1 is not, so I think that would be hard to achieve heh
You could always underclock the N1 to 500MHz and then clock it up to 1100MHz and presto 220%
Nexus: better colors (only some gray get's pink a little)
Milestone: better resolution, sharpness and screen is a little brighter (just a little)
Nexus: nicer design and much lighter
Milestone: physical keyboard
Nexus: faster updates, cooler mods, great benchmark over froyo
Milestone: over eclair is faster if overclocked (9.5/10 MFlops @1.2Ghz STABLE)
Nexus: f###ing sexier! [email protected] recording, trackball (rocks!!!)
Milestone: better speaker phone, louder sound, stronger (resulting in more speed) wifi and 3g signal, but gets extremely hot while using gps
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I'm pretty sure the Droid is stock underclocked and the N1 is not, so I think that would be hard to achieve heh
You could always underclock the N1 to 500MHz and then clock it up to 1100MHz and presto 220%
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To be fair the Droid is only stock underclocked by 50 Mhz
so no one who has both prefers the droid... that's what I figured... I wonder why droid users are so closed-minded... it really is a worse following than diehard apple people.
I'm happy to hear I'm not the only person who thinks the droid is sluggish... keyboard is pointless IMO with swype. Too bad google didn't market the Nexus better or maybe it would get the appreciation and attention it deserves.
Until there is a fix on the Nexus One (charansingh_online's work), the Droid has the advantage of taking videos in any light condition without sacrificing frame rates.

Benchmarks

Someone please tell me once u use the phone and get it set up the benchmarks go up. My x was below 700 the first few times i tried and now its regular 1300, with that said i tried te d2 today and benchmarks are only like 14-1500, why would they not be above 2000-3000 with froyo? When every other phone gets a 4x performance increase. Why would it have the same hardware as the x but have froyo, and benchmarks be basically the same? Please someone tell me they r getting above 2000.
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It might be because the 2.1 that is installed on the Droid X had already included some parts of froyo. So maybe you guys already have some of the speed boosters of the full 2.2 update, resulting in a lesser increase compared to other phones.
That's not it. Even linpack scores are higher on snapdragon devices. Its widely know that the TI OMAP is far superior to the snapdragon. Its motos ****up. Oh well im done with them. Htc, samsung, whoever, here i come. Its not that its a huge deal, its that these 2 phones had HUGE potential, then moto ruined them. Just a pissed off user. If anyone wants to trade a samsung galaxy s phone pm me. Lol
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I think I read somewhere linpack isn't fully optimized with OMAP cpus yet.
very sad to hear
with the kernal lag fix
the samsung vibrant blows everyphone out of the water with 2400+ benchmark scores
absolute beauty
cant even imagine how amazing it will be with froyo

Incredible or Droid x

I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer
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I just want some opinions! Im about to get a new phone and I am leaning towards the Incredible because I currently have the Eris and its been great. I really like HTC. But I wanted to see what you guys have to say... The price is the same for both if I upgrade.... Never really been a fan of Motorolla but seems like a viable option... Anyone got the time to answer
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I've compared the two phone and for me, other than the battery life, the Incredible wins hands-down. I think the screen is WAY too big on the X to use as a nimble one-handed device. The display on the DI is much better than the X.
...Plus, ever since my StarTAC experience, Motorola can kiss my hairy donkey.
Motorola makes great phones. The inclusion of a separate gpu is awesome. That being said I would take my incredible over the Droid x any day of the week. The sense UI is much much better then motoblur, the screen is wayyyy wayyy to big. Performance wise its great, but do u really want to always be carrying a psp in ur pocket?
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youve both mentioned the same the same concerns I have.. I dont want a brick in my pocket.. I love the eris for alot of reasons but size is a big thing... I have friends with the moto droid and I cant stand having it in my hand... i was thinking i might be able to get used to it though.. have either of you rooted... and was it a hard process.... i rooted my eris and had no problems doing it but it makes me nervous getting a new phone and messing it up...
In my relatively short experience with the Android platform, I have gone (in the following order) through the following phones:
HTC Incredible
Moto Droid X
Moto Droid 2
HTC Incredible
I got the Incredible initially as a parting gift to myself for being fed up with BlackBerry. I was immediately wowed by the phone. It's speedy, takes great pictures, great call quality and I've experienced no reception issues.
Then, the release of the Droid X. The phone is huge, however the lightweight of the device offset this and didn't bother my hands once I got used to it. After my developing obsession with development and modding had fully set in, I became upset with the phone because of the heavily locked bootloader. The fact that the Verizon store I purchased it from said I'd have 2.2 in 2 weeks from the launch date (never happened and still hasn't happened) didn't help.
I was happy with the phone, however, the pictures that it took seemed overly grainy and I wasn't that impressed with the 720p quality which seemed too choppy and not as smooth as I had expected. Call quality again was excellent, however the speaker volume seemed to lack (compared to my Incredible). I was not a fan of ninjablur either.
Then the Droid 2 was released. I was on a mission to get an officially released version of 2.2. I figured that the original Droid had been a hit, and all the guts under the hood were revamped for what should seem to make an amazing phone. WRONG. Slow as hell, choppy, negligible call quality, rampant overheating which crippled your ability to use the phone etc. (if the Droid 2 performance is what people can expect when the X gets it's upgrade, I feel bad for you guys)
So now, I'm back to my Incredible that I stuffed in the drawer while going through those upgrades. I'm happier with a camera that comes with a better camera, snappier operating system, S-OFF and a plethora of customization options. The 2150 battery gives me between 2-3 days of no charge, and I'm happy with my loud speaker volume as well. Plus, after installing the 2.2 RUU that was recently released, I'm happily enjoying solid Linpack scores in the mid to high 30's, fixed bugs etc.
I say get the Incredible, I believe it to be a better phone all around. And you'll appreciate the wide range of options you have for the phone as well.
i am also trying to choose between the two. i'm leaning to the incredible because i think htc makes better phones and i love sense (a lot) but the reason i'm considering the x is the screen is so big. i think thats really great, and it has swype and an hdmi and stuff. but i feel like besides the screen being smaller on the inc, htc makes everything work much better than motorola
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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While I can say I'm impressed with the Quadrant Scores, being that there are known flaws in the system that can be tweaked to yield higher Quadrant benchmarks means (as simple as changing a numerical value in the build.props, and I'm not accusing you of such just to be clear) that it can no longer be used as a reliable benchmarking system... especially if you are not using dead stock software that has been cooked, pulled or whatever.
It is also well known that "Bars" are not reliable indications of service reception. Holding my Droid X and Incredible right now as I type; the Droid X is showing full bars at -98dbm, while the Incredible is showing 2 bars -95dbm.
Just saying that's all
My incredible used to get anywere from 85 to 98dbm in my house, my X gets 72dbm, the X will always score higher on quadrant simply because its just plain got a better processor, however slight of an advantage it may be, its still something... but the major thing is the seperate GPU that throws it worlds ahead in graphics processing.. on quadrant in the first 3d demo where you are walking through the tunnel i get consistent 28 FPS.. even while turning the corner which is where it normally drops, it dosent drop on mine
I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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Joe92T said:
I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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And I'm not knocking the Droid X in anyway. Both phones are incredible (yeah yeah I know its a pun) devices. Both just fill different niches in the Android community.
Which I why I love and am obsessed with Android. No one-device-fits-all environment!
Eat **** Apple.
You may also want to consider the Samsung Fascinate that is getting ready to come out. Slick UI, Hummingbird processor is extremely fast, has a seperate GPU, and a beautiful screen. I also think 4" is the perfect screen size. just my $.02
Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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The bootloader is still keeping you from running a custom kernel, correct?
The X has a nice GPU (My friend has one), BUT, the screen compared to an Dinc's screen is like analog vs digital. The Dinc's screen is so much more vivid, colorful and detailed than the X's. I wouldn't trade for the X.
Samsungs fascinate looks great. But if i recall from the images..its a 3Giphone look a like..Only the captivate looks sleek in my opinion and there are some serious GPS issues plaguing the Galaxy S phones right now...and lets face it..samsung hasnt been the best of companies when it comes to keeping up with upgrades..sure 2.2 is probably insight, but will they support gingerbread? hmmm. HTC/Moto on verizon's network is a win either way. They have CDMA down.
Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Yeah...I'm gonna have to call bs on that...sorry.
Joe92T said:
Used to own an incredible, had s-off on it, SkyRaider and everything, then gave it to my girlfriend and got a Droid X, i wouldnt go back
Ive attached a benchmark of my rooted Droid X running Froyo, take a look below...
Also the bootloader thing has been bypassed... we have clockworkmod recovery now and can flash custom roms, also one thing that should be known about motorola is that they make one HELL of a radio for there devices... In my house my HTC Incredible used to fluctuate between 2 and 3 bars.. mostly on two... with my Droid X its been dead nuts 100% full signal the whole time and dosent budge.. and i was using the 2.15 radio in my inc but had the same issue on the original 1.0 baseband
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Gonna call BS on that unless you uninstall Quadrant, make a video of you installing Quadrant from the market, running it, and getting that score.
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I'm not saying the incredible is a bad device, as I used to own one.. However just an fyi my droid x scored a 1200 on quadrant right out of the box it was the first app I installed, and that was running 2.1
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Let me get this straight. So you're saying that the Droid X is a better phone because it scores higher on a benchmarking application? That is your only justification for switching?
I really appreciate all the feedback. But I think Im leaning incredible. I just cant help but like HTC's product....

Fascinate?

I'm just curious what everyone here in the X forum thinks about these new Samsung Fascinate (galaxy s) phones? I personally think Samsung is CRAP and these new phones look like iPhone wannabes... What do you guys think?
The Galaxy S is a damn fine phone...the only thing keeping me from widespread recommendation of it is the weak GPS issue a lot of people are encountering, frankly. I'm happy with my Droid X since it got rooted, but it'll be my last Motorola phone because of how hard they're keeping the bootloader locked down.
The only thing I wouldn't like is the soft buttons.... also I hear that the phone feels like it is made of cheap plastic....
Can anyone confirm or deny the cheap plastic rumor?
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I'm just curious what everyone here in the X forum thinks about these new Samsung Fascinate (galaxy s) phones? I personally think Samsung is CRAP and these new phones look like iPhone wannabes... What do you guys think?
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True, first glance you would mistaken it for the iphone but up closer u'll change your mind.
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The Galaxy S is a damn fine phone...the only thing keeping me from widespread recommendation of it is the weak GPS issue a lot of people are encountering, frankly. I'm happy with my Droid X since it got rooted, but it'll be my last Motorola phone because of how hard they're keeping the bootloader locked down.
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DroidX has one of the best antenna & strongest gps designs on the market currently IMO, fascinate cant come close with its weak gps...
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The only thing I wouldn't like is the soft buttons.... also I hear that the phone feels like it is made of cheap plastic....
Can anyone confirm or deny the cheap plastic rumor?
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Confirmed; cheap plasticly material on the fascinate compared to the toughness of the Droid X...
~VZW Retailer~​
Other thing is, if you don't care much for build quality and/or gps and just want a fast gaming phone, the Galaxy's hummingbird chipset + gpu is the fastest out there right now, and by a fair margin.
Wonder what kind of scores they're putting up compared to our rooted X's..?? Mine, rooted and running FlyX is hitting 1496.
They score 2200 to 2400 on quadrant with their lagfix hack.. Not that impressive considering with the stagefright hack on my X I can do 2200 so its close to on par
Basically yes, if you can get over the cheap feel of it and the fact that you'll probobly get lost if you ever have to use google navigation, it has the best screen, gpu and processor package out right now... So its all under the hood
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Posting this from my Fascinate now.
The Fascinate is a really nice phone LOL. The GPS isn't that bad, it just has problems locking onto satellites ATM, and will be no doubt fixed with an update.
The phone is light. Don't confuse light with cheap, or poorly made, it feels great.
I will most likely be exchanging it for an X tomorrow due to my needs for a device with better reception and in-call audio/noise cancellation, which the X does better.
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They score 2200 to 2400 on quadrant with their lagfix hack.. Not that impressive considering with the stagefright hack on my X I can do 2200 so its close to on par
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Let's not forget that this is all with the Fascinate running on 2.1. It will be a beast when it gets 2.2
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Let's not forget that this is all with the Fascinate running on 2.1. It will be a beast when it gets 2.2
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The same thing was said about the droid x and then when froyo came out our scores only increased by like 100 points
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what is this stagefright hack? i've seen other posts mentioning it but don't know what it is or what it does...
edit your build.prop file, find the stage fright lines, and change them from true to false (or the other way around). There are 4 lines together that need to be modified.
How do I access the build.prop file?
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So I tested out a G2 today...

This phone is freakin fast! I know it's running froyo, but this beast got 29 mflops without any mods at all! Everything I did with it was instant response..no pause for anything at all and it was only on edge. When I got my vibrant, the G2 was still a month away. Anyone think the Vibrant will get anywhere near those numbers when it goes to Froyo. (I'm a benchmark whore, so this is really bugging me )
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Benchmarks are like horsepower, it is only as good as what you can use and anything more is just tire smoke and noise.... see lotus vs viper...
The vibrant doesn't support the neon instruction set, so no. Even when froyo comes out it will not reach those numbers.
On the other hand we have the best gpu on a phone yet.
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Benchmarks are like horsepower, it is only as good as what you can use and anything more is just tire smoke and noise.... see lotus vs viper...
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perfect example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG9Afp6fy0
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perfect example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG9Afp6fy0
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That was freakin' hilarious...point proven. Btw...never even heard of the neon instruction set. Having the best gpu is only as good as the games it plays...which is not very good right now. I hope some big name developers get working on it.
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My wife just got her g2 and honestly is very laggy compare to my vibrant and am still running stock with no lag fixes I was very surprise
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The thing is, the Vibrant is fast enough to handle any current iteration of Android. I'm using Bionix 1.8 overclocked, and I don't see what any additional speed would do for me. Faster benchmarks would be nice, but it's irrelevant to day to day use.
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perfect example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uG9Afp6fy0
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my point exactly... 8x the power and 1/3 the weight only 11 mph faster... lol
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perfect example:
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entertaining video
oldarney said:
The vibrant doesn't support the neon instruction set, so no. Even when froyo comes out it will not reach those numbers.
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really ? I thought it did because it can play all those HD videos even without converting
Before the Nexus One got Froyo, it was in the ballpark of 7 MFLOPS. Once the update rolled out, we began to see Linpack scores in the realm of 45 MFLOPS. In its stock form, a Samsung Vibrant gets about 8 MFLOPS. I have no doubt in a dramatic increase for this number once we get Froyo (expecially if you like to use custom kernals and whatnot).
The Thing About That Is Froyo Is Pretty Much Designed For Snapdragon Processors, The Hummingbird Processor Is Completely Different It Works, But It's Not Optimized For It
At Least Thats What I've Heard
i would like to see how our phones would run with:
Froyo+custom rom which includes: modified kernel, lagfix
ryan562 said:
i would like to see how our phones would run with:
Froyo+custom rom which includes: modified kernel, lagfix
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I thought froyo was supposed to get rid of the lag therefore we wouldn't need a lag fix.
i had the evo at first. was getting about 6 or 7 mflops per second on 2.1. they dropped froyo, and i bumped up to about 38 or 39. i got the g2 on october 3rd from the shack. loved the phone. yes, fast straight out of the box. was getting about 29 to 30 with it, but with its weight, the loose hinge, the crap htc pulled with making it supposedly, unrootable, and a few other issues, i took it back after a week, and went back to the vibrant. there are a few issues with its lag, but i just install a different launcher, take away the animation settings, and my vibe feels like one of the other two phones i mentioned. just my .02.
Erickomen27 said:
The Thing About That Is Froyo Is Pretty Much Designed For Snapdragon Processors, The Hummingbird Processor Is Completely Different It Works, But It's Not Optimized For It
At Least Thats What I've Heard
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Actually, it has nothing to do with snapdragon, and everything to do with the optimisation they did to the whole OS. FroYo brings little to the table feature wise, but they did a lot of work with optimisation of the core OS.
Also, Can You Not Capitalise Every Word. It Looks Ugly, Makes It Hard To Read, And Isn't Proper Grammar.
ryan562 said:
i would like to see how our phones would run with:
Froyo+custom rom which includes: modified kernel, lagfix
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I'd be scared. I think my vibrant would be more vibrant than me.
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Vibrant on balance still the best
the others are right Benchmarks are for wow factor really.
A couple of examples ........... My friend's compter have a I7 980 chip in their computer and Wow... it benches 20% faster than My AMD 1090 But........ when actually using the computers doing the same real life tasks, mine is way faster because all the components are better balanced. That said i have 32 gigs of ram in my desktop and only have two programs that recognize that much ram........ so i will have to wait 4 years for software to catch up......NOW that extra ram is a waste...right now but it does wow the benchmark on the ram.
Bottom line the glitz (benchmarks) are just that........ Glitz...... Love the vibrant Have not seen a better phone to date
If your looking for good games to take advantage of the gpu, try the gameloft website. Sandstorm is one I'm currently pounding.
There's currently a sort of war between gameloft and the android market.
My wifi's name is airorangex.
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The G2 is not just fast in benchmarks. It just smokes the Vibrant. Everything is super fast. Whenever I install multiple apps from the Market, the Vibrant just hangs after 2-3. And during the installation stage. After I got the G2, I used App Brain to set up all the Apps on my Vibrant on to the G2. It kept on installing the apps one after another without breaking into a sweat. There is practically no lag at all on the phone. It's a very impressive phone.
Now having said that, like the other poster, I'll be returning the G2 for the same reasons. After getting used to the Vibrant, the weight is too heavy. The hinge is most definitely a problem. Lying on the bed with the phone in your hand, it keeps closing. And HTC's attempt to prevent rooting pissed me off. But Samsung is pissing me off as well with their lack of communication and delay in getting Froyo out. Sadly the dev community is not making as much progress as I had hoped with the world wide launch of the Galaxy S. I might take a look at the G2 again in a couple of months if the mod situation does not improve and Samsung continues to drag its feet.

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