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So I have this ongoing debate with a friend about who has the better phone. The droid has such a biased and idiotic fanboy mentality I really get a worse feeling than I did with apple. Benchmarks bla bla bla droid overclocked out the wazzoo (probably unstable as hell) gets better benchmarks then the nexus oook. Better screen? Better touch sensors? Better 3D? I'm really sick of hearing about it when I've personally used both and think the nexus is better.
The droid seems slow and sluggish moving around menus... even on 2.1 it was slow. The screen seemed to tear and was nowhere near as snappy as my nexus is.
Graphics okay.. sure the droid may perform with higher fps than the Nexus but I really don't care about that. If I wanted to play games on my phone I would get an iPhone which kills all android devices without a doubt. If this is a competition about gaming and graphics the app store and 3D-optimized iPhones are always going to win that debate. To be honest, I haven't even downloaded nor played 1 game on my Nexus since I bought it.
The fact is, I bought the nexus because I want productivity out of my phone. I want to be able to move around quickly through the OS and be able to text, make phone calls, and see my appointments on the screen with ease. Not only that but durability and resistance to daily wear are very important to me. I love the fact that I've had my Nexus since day one, with 0 protection and there is not a single scratch ANYWHERE.
Anyways, this isn't really a rant or "another droid vs nexus" thread (err well I guess it is kinda) but I am just curious for those of you who do infact have BOTH devices to explain your unbiased comments. I don't care about bogus overclocking and stupid benchmarks... I am curious as to how it all boils down when you use it throughout the day; which is a better experience and why?
Oh and if you are super elite and have an EVO as well, I'd be very happy to hear how you rate them all overall. The reason I'm having this debate with myself is because I'm considering leaving ATT for a CDMA carrier but the Nexus is what's keeping me with ATT atm.
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Nexus One:
- $50/mo contract free for voice and data
- Froyo + future updates immediately
- 1ghz processor
Motorola Droid:
- $70/mo with 2 year lockdown for voice and data
- No updates till months after due to Verizon stall
- 660mhz processor
Either way it's not really a competition for me. I am happy for all the brothers out there that get an android phone and increase the user base.
If I had to choose though I would def go with the Nexus One due to these 3 reasons.
ap3604 said:
Nexus One:
- $50/mo contract free for voice and data
- Froyo + future updates immediately
- 1ghz processor
Motorola Droid:
- $70/mo with 2 year lockdown for voice and data
- No updates till months after due to Verizon stall
- 660mghz processor
Either way it's not really a competition for me. I am happy for all the brothers out there that get an android phone and increase the user base.
If I had to choose though I would def go with the Nexus One due to these 3 reasons.
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That 660MGHz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 GHz, right?
droid seems sluggish..
Not only do i have both phones but I had the Droid first and everyone who knows me was always standing up for it against the n1 guys. that being said... I refuse to use the Droid any more and will only use the N1. nuff said.
my co-worker as a droid.
i did one swipe at the screen to scroll through the menus. stopped. and gave it back to him.
lag. lag. lag. no thanks.
i mean the nexus one has it's lags i guess but nothing compared to that.
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That 660MGHz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 GHz, right?
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Sorry for the misprint
its pretty much common knowledge that the nexus one has the droid beat. both are great phones though, but there is not really anything to debate here. the nexus has better hardware, except maybe for the possibility of a weaker gpu chipset. but run some benchmarks between the two phones, what frames per second do each get? i bet the nexus can match is somewhat.
What about the droid incredible? That is a pretty sweet phone, except for the back cover.
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that 660mghz proc sounds pretty bad-ass. That's 660,000,000 ghz, right?
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its over 9000!!!
adamhlj said:
What about the droid incredible? That is a pretty sweet phone, except for the back cover.
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That back cover looks awesome..... don't know how it would feel holding though.. probably feel weird.
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That back cover looks awesome..... don't know how it would feel holding though.. probably feel weird.
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It really doesn't feel that weird when you hold it. I was surprised as I thought it would.
Nexus: better colors
Droid: better resolution and sharpness
Nexus: nicer design and lighter
Droid: physical keyboard
Nexus: faster updates, cooler mods, great benchmark over froyo
Droid: over eclair is faster if overclocked
Droid: better speaker phone, louder sound, stronger wifi and 3g signal, but gets extremely hot while using gps
Nexus: f###ing sexier!
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lets see the nexus one overclock 220%
The Droid is very stable, even clocked above 1GHZ. I personally prefer to go no higher than than that to keep heat down. I do like the N1's form factor more. I'm among the group of people who actually likes having a trackball.
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Luxferro said:
lets see the nexus one overclock 220%
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I'm pretty sure the Droid is stock underclocked and the N1 is not, so I think that would be hard to achieve heh
You could always underclock the N1 to 500MHz and then clock it up to 1100MHz and presto 220%
Nexus: better colors (only some gray get's pink a little)
Milestone: better resolution, sharpness and screen is a little brighter (just a little)
Nexus: nicer design and much lighter
Milestone: physical keyboard
Nexus: faster updates, cooler mods, great benchmark over froyo
Milestone: over eclair is faster if overclocked (9.5/10 MFlops @1.2Ghz STABLE)
Nexus: f###ing sexier! [email protected] recording, trackball (rocks!!!)
Milestone: better speaker phone, louder sound, stronger (resulting in more speed) wifi and 3g signal, but gets extremely hot while using gps
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I'm pretty sure the Droid is stock underclocked and the N1 is not, so I think that would be hard to achieve heh
You could always underclock the N1 to 500MHz and then clock it up to 1100MHz and presto 220%
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To be fair the Droid is only stock underclocked by 50 Mhz
so no one who has both prefers the droid... that's what I figured... I wonder why droid users are so closed-minded... it really is a worse following than diehard apple people.
I'm happy to hear I'm not the only person who thinks the droid is sluggish... keyboard is pointless IMO with swype. Too bad google didn't market the Nexus better or maybe it would get the appreciation and attention it deserves.
Until there is a fix on the Nexus One (charansingh_online's work), the Droid has the advantage of taking videos in any light condition without sacrificing frame rates.
I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?
I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.
Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.
The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).
Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!
^ sadly, it will not.
after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?
Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.
cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November
I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)
What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
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djunio said:
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!
I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector
I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.
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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....
I'm thinking about getting into the world of Android and smartphones but I'm not sure which phone to get. The Samsung Captivate is good and I have used it before but the Bravo just came out and it seems good as well. I'm not sure which one would be a better choice. Can anyone help?
good news for ya! i have the captivate and my wife just got the bravo so if you have any q's id gladly answer as best i could.. do you plan on rooting/modding the captivate at all? if so the captivate forums are packed full of different ideas. I am having a blast fiddling with mine.
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good news for ya! i have the captivate and my wife just got the bravo so if you have any q's id gladly answer as best i could.. do you plan on rooting/modding the captivate at all? if so the captivate forums are packed full of different ideas. I am having a blast fiddling with mine.
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If I got either one, I would root it since I'm not a big fan of TouchWiz or MotoBlur and would get rid of it. Is the Bravo as smooth as the Captivate for performance, games, and overall usage? Can you list pros and cons of both?
I too am pondering getting the Bravo or going back to the Captivate, has the Captivates GPS issues been fixed?
If you plan on rooting either then i would base my decesion on aesthetics, screen size, feel in your hand, etc.
pro's
captivate: amoled screen is gorgeous!
1 gig humming bird processor is really quick when given the chance (froyo)
camera is much better on the captivate compared to the bravo. (this is really my wifes lone grip about the phone.
cons: gps issues. mine seems fine..fix within 30 secs and tracks to about 20 meters. but I have heard of some phones being not so good. this is a samsung/att issue and not a firmware problem.
That is really the only issue i have with the phone. in the stock rom (2.1) the bottom keys had a 1/2 second to 1 second delay from when i pressed to when the phone would actually respond.. this was extremely annoying for me..but all was fixed with the froyo leaks
IMO the captivate is a more advaced phone in terms of performance... screen, processor (1gig vs 800mhz), camera. (5mp vs 3mp)
however in terms of feel i prefer the bravo. seems a little heavier and a better build quality i also make less mistakes texting on the bravo..
As of right now theres not any dev's doing anything with the bravo. as you can easily see by this forum. ofcoarse this may change in the near future...
good luck with your decision... look at this way.. youre not getting an Iphone so youre already doing better than most
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If you plan on rooting either then i would base my decesion on aesthetics, screen size, feel in your hand, etc.
pro's
captivate: amoled screen is gorgeous!
1 gig humming bird processor is really quick when given the chance (froyo)
camera is much better on the captivate compared to the bravo. (this is really my wifes lone grip about the phone.
cons: gps issues. mine seems fine..fix within 30 secs and tracks to about 20 meters. but I have heard of some phones being not so good. this is a samsung/att issue and not a firmware problem.
That is really the only issue i have with the phone. in the stock rom (2.1) the bottom keys had a 1/2 second to 1 second delay from when i pressed to when the phone would actually respond.. this was extremely annoying for me..but all was fixed with the froyo leaks
IMO the captivate is a more advaced phone in terms of performance... screen, processor (1gig vs 800mhz), camera. (5mp vs 3mp)
however in terms of feel i prefer the bravo. seems a little heavier and a better build quality i also make less mistakes texting on the bravo..
As of right now theres not any dev's doing anything with the bravo. as you can easily see by this forum. ofcoarse this may change in the near future...
good luck with your decision... look at this way.. youre not getting an Iphone so youre already doing better than most
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I won't really use the GPS so that's not an issue for me. How's battery life on them? Also I heard the screen on the Bravo is actually pretty good for a TFT LCD. Do you think once Froyo comes to the Bravo it will perform just as good as the Captivate?
As a Galaxy S owner I would add that you would need to be clinically insane to choose a Bravo over the Captivate =P
It's just no comparison...Captivate has better specs, MUCH better screen, better camera/video, guaranteed upgrade to Froyo and most likely Gingerbread.
Motoblur sucks bigtime, and who knows, it could take a year before you get Froyo.
Is it worth upgrading right now? I can upgrade in October of 2011, but my dad said I can take his account to upgrade......
What are you using now? Yes the bravo screen is decent but it does not compare to the amoled...
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i'm using just a regular feature phone. the thing about the bravo that intrigues me is the better battery life, crystal talk, and fm radio
I have both phones.
The captivate is a better phone (spec wise) and the screen and size are awesome, but Samsung really goofed with their file system - reports of lag are true in many database intensive uses (email access) and really makes things annoying. Also, the Samsung email and Calendar customizations have nice pros, but also many cons.
The Bravo is a midrange phone but Moto did a nice job on email and calendar enhancements if you like Exchange integration.
I like the form factor and screen of the captivate, but the Bravo is a good solid phone. If you could get rid of MotoBlur it would be even better, but it is possible to ignore blur and enjoy the phone.
I used to think the Captivate was the hands down winner, but it has enough irritations that I like the Bravo for business use. For movies, the Captivate cant be beat.
dude, the Captivate is packed full of problems. the biggest downside is that it shuts off by itself. Unless you are a real tech wiz, I highly suggest you pick something else in the Galaxy S family. The vibrant is a good start.
get the MOTOROLA BRAVO!
Look at the Motorola Bravo benchmark scores!!
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It's tons higher than the Samsung Captivate's scores! I have no clue how but it is.
I have a bravo and I'm quite proud of it knowing how much better it is than all of the other phones And it runs so fast! It's almost as good as the Droid X..., but just think, when it gets 2.2, it will TOWER over other phones. And 2.2 will be released for the phone the 1st quarter of 2010. Motorola doesn't know how to advertise phones, this phone is MUCH more powerful than it seems!!!
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BravoMotorola said:
Look at the Motorola Bravo benchmark scores!!
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It's tons higher than the Samsung Captivate's scores! I have no clue how but it is.
I have a bravo and I'm quite proud of it knowing how much better it is than all of the other phones And it runs so fast! It's almost as good as the Droid X..., but just think, when it gets 2.2, it will TOWER over other phones. And 2.2 will be released for the phone the 1st quarter of 2010. Motorola doesn't know how to advertise phones, this phone is MUCH more powerful than it seems!!!
GET IT!!
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Just because the benchmark scores are higher doesn't make it a better phone. I use them as reference for seeing how good a phone is but I don't think too much of them.
I might go to the AT&T store and try the Bravo out for myself. But there's that rumored Motorola phone with the Tegra 2. Should I hold out for that?
Well yea, true.
The benchmark scores are a big deal though, I mean it shows you how powerful the phone is, but the Captivate does have a AMOLED screen and it takes HD video..., but I've always known Motorola to make pretty good quality phones.
And yes...that phone will be really awesome if they can find a way for a battery to power all of that stuff! It seems interesting to wait...and you know the more you wait the better things get, and I think it would be interesting if you waited, and if the phone didn't work out or if it was for a different carrier, then you could always go back to these phones, and by then they will be much cheaper!
If you don't wait then I think you should still get the bravo, it's a really nice phone!!
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Look at the Motorola Bravo benchmark scores!!
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It's tons higher than the Samsung Captivate's scores! I have no clue how but it is.
I have a bravo and I'm quite proud of it knowing how much better it is than all of the other phones And it runs so fast! It's almost as good as the Droid X..., but just think, when it gets 2.2, it will TOWER over other phones. And 2.2 will be released for the phone the 1st quarter of 2010. Motorola doesn't know how to advertise phones, this phone is MUCH more powerful than it seems!!!
GET IT!!
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I suggest that you do some research in the captivate forum. 1036 quadrant score? If my Galaxy S would score that low I would be worried. I rarely get lower than 2200 quadrant score, personal record is 2504 by the way... only need a lag fix app and preferrably a custom kernel. the galaxy s series are bad ass phones if you enjoy fiddling a bit with them. cheers!
agreed, so much out there you can do with the captivate, i've had so much fun with this phone. not saying i didnt like the bravo, but i'd choose captivate as of right now
Id still consider the bravo...
Once th xda REALLY gets a hold pf this phone, the Bravo, it will be MUCH more powerful. This thing has the capabilities of clocking the processor to 1ghz. And those scores are with 2.1, 2.2 will double the performance and like I said, thats coming soon! I rooted mine and was able to somewhat over clock, got it up to like 1400...but I can't wait until 2.2. It will be an awesome phone. But yea, stock Bravo to stock Galaxy S...Bravo wins. So I'm guessing over powered Galaxy S to over powered Bravo, the Bravo will easily win.
I mentioned this in another thread here, but this is my first smartphone, coming from a Moto RAZR. Two weeks later, I'm not sure how I hung onto that dinosaur for so long. I like the Bravo and will keep it. It may feel like my RAZR in six months, but for now it's a huge leap.
Tis true, you would have to be a crazy to even put the bravo in the same class as the captivate.. Captivate by a longshot wins..
So how do you like your Nexus S vs Vibrant...How about a comparison?
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The nexus s is identical to the vibrant, but it has what everyone wants from their vibrant a good camera even in low light but with flash, and a new os : gingerbread 2.3, in hardware specs its almost identical, software and flash is where it gets better than the vibrant
Dont have one because the only thing it has over the Vibrant that i care about is Gingerbread. The camera flash isnt a big deal to me.
So far so good.
JIT actually works on GB quadrant CPU score is now on par with snapdragon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9858387&postcount=1
I never had issues really with my vibrant GPS but notices quicker and more accurate locks haven't tested on road yet
Covering the bottom left corner on NS doesn't cause signal drop
Like the all around look of the NS doesn't have the cheap looking chrome the vibrant has and no more tmobile or samsung on the front just all black
and also has a rounder look making it look slightly smaller and more sleek along with curve glass
Took some getting use to unlocking and gaining root access but managed and also got clockwork recovery image flashed
Gingerbread is just fast and really snappy
that's about it for now
nothing really stands out in WOW factor its pretty much a vibrant with Google support.. And hopefully they port gingerbread to vibrant and hopefully its optimized to take full advantage of JIT because it makes a difference
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Tested on road and is very accurate and didn't run into any lost or spotty signal while navigating.
Probably due to the fact that they changed the cell and GPS antenna so they no longer interfere with one another like on my vibrant
Well my vibrants gps is perfect locks within 5 secs accurate compass works correctly and with the new google maps its faster, my vibrant being made recently 10-20 came with preinstalled ji6 which does fix the gps problems, as of now im happy with the vibrant just gonna wait till ota froyo comes which should be really soon, im done flashing custom roms they either made my gps worse or messed up my haptic vibrations ended up exchanging so many times at the tmobile store lol i took full advantage of my 14 day period i think i exchanged 2 vibrants got a G2 hated the G2 so horrible and back to another vibrant. Only thing the nexus really has over the vibrant for me is the flash and gingerbread, but i dont want gingerbread badly enough to sell my brand new vibrant due to froyo coming soon and theres no huge difference between 2.2 and 2.3 compared to 2.1 to 2.2
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So how do you like your Nexus S vs Vibrant...How about a comparison?
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Just got my Nexus S. The final straw for me was the fact that the official Samsung twitter is now saying that they "cannot pinpoint a date" for 2.2, yet they had previously been saying "by the end of the year." So they should be able to at least say by the 31st unless they were lying earlier. I have lost faith in them and will never buy a Samsung phone again unless it is a situation like the Nexus where they are not involved with OS/software.
Anyways, it is what you would expect. Basically a Galaxy S except without Samsung tainting the software and no restrictions of any kind. Samsung makes great hardware but, damn, they suck when it comes to supporting existing customers and software engineering. The camera is nice, though I hope that they add in support for HD video recording (which I'm sure it is capable of). Everything I have tried seems to be very fast and well optimized. I also like the small interface changes in 2.3. The phone actually feels a little heavier/thicker than the Vibrant to me, though it isn't in a bad way like the MT4G (which is ugly, too, IMO). External styling seems nice though not much different.
I'm happy. I got what I wanted: unmodified/unrestricted Android and not waiting forever (if ever) for updates.
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So far so good.
JIT actually works on GB quadrant CPU score is now on par with snapdragon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9858387&postcount=1
I never had issues really with my vibrant GPS but notices quicker and more accurate locks haven't tested on road yet
Covering the bottom left corner on NS doesn't cause signal drop
Like the all around look of the NS doesn't have the cheap looking chrome the vibrant has and no more tmobile or samsung on the front just all black
and also has a rounder look making it look slightly smaller and more sleek along with curve glass
Took some getting use to unlocking and gaining root access but managed and also got clockwork recovery image flashed
Gingerbread is just fast and really snappy
that's about it for now
nothing really stands out in WOW factor its pretty much a vibrant with Google support.. And hopefully they port gingerbread to vibrant and hopefully its optimized to take full advantage of JIT because it makes a difference
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Interesting the 3D doesn't score as well as the Galaxy S....
It also has relatively slow IO considering its EXT4 partitions.
edit: i guess the NS has an option that slowed the IO down, devs have 'fixed' it and its performing as you would expect..
Also think maybe its just a 2.3 problem with apps maybe causing the 3d scores? well see as time progresses.
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The nexus s is identical to the vibrant, but it has what everyone wants from their vibrant a good camera even in low light but with flash, and a new os : gingerbread 2.3, in hardware specs its almost identical, software and flash is where it gets better than the vibrant
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the nexus s is NOT identical to the vibrant. i'm just saying.
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Interesting the 3D doesn't score as well as the Galaxy S....
It also has relatively slow IO considering its EXT4 partitions.
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Supercurio found that they missed a mounting option he already released a voodoo kernel that fixes it
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The camera is nice, though I hope that they add in support for HD video recording (which I'm sure it is capable of).
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I hate to break it to you, but that's a hardware limitation. They may be able to add 720p recording at something less than 30fps, but that's the best you can hope for.
http://twitter.com/supercurio/status/15023985871814656
@dnaltews Is VIdeo Capture 480p choice due to WebM codec limitations on this SoC? software compressor Maybe? @kangsterizer
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@supercurio clock rate limitation of the SoC. Galaxy uses an external image processing part as a work around. Not enough PCB space in N.S.
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I hate to break it to you, but that's a hardware limitation. They may be able to add 720p recording at something less than 30fps, but that's the best you can hope for.
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I don't fully understand what is being said in that twitter reply... so there is a hardware difference between the Vibrant and Nexus S that prevents HD recording? Seems strange that Google would downgrade the hardware in the S. Then again, they took out the SD slot.
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I don't fully understand what is being said in that twitter reply... so there is a hardware difference between the Vibrant and Nexus S that prevents HD recording? Seems strange that Google would downgrade the hardware in the S. Then again, they took out the SD slot.
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Basically, the Vibrant had an extra chip that assisted with video recording. There wasn't room for it in the Nexus S, so it won't be able to do 720p.
ikevinnyii said:
The nexus s is identical to the vibrant, but it has what everyone wants from their vibrant a good camera even in low light but with flash, and a new os : gingerbread 2.3, in hardware specs its almost identical, software and flash is where it gets better than the vibrant
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You don't quite grasp the meaning of the word "identical," do ya?
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Won't do 720p? We'll see.
Either way, the solid feel of the Nexus S makes the Vibrant feel so last year. The Nexus S is the most solid phone I've ever held.
Other than that, it FLIES out of the box. Oh and Gingerbread is hawttttttttttt
Don't say one negative thing about the Nexus S until you go personally hold it. You'll probably end up buying it within 3 seconds of grasping it's awesomeness first hand.
Anderdroid said:
Won't do 720p? We'll see.
Either way, the solid feel of the Nexus S makes the Vibrant feel so last year. The Nexus S is the most solid phone I've ever held.
Other than that, it FLIES out of the box. Oh and Gingerbread is hawttttttttttt
Don't say one negative thing about the Nexus S until you go personally hold it. You'll probably end up buying it within 3 seconds of grasping it's awesomeness first hand.
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I held one. See sigtag. Samaung build quality is nothing to rave about. NS feela cheepee than an HTC aria, and the only thing not last year about this phone is the os... At least for a couple of weeks.
Can care less about this phone. I want a 2.2 update for the one I paid for.
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Anderdroid said:
Won't do 720p? We'll see.
Either way, the solid feel of the Nexus S makes the Vibrant feel so last year. The Nexus S is the most solid phone I've ever held.
Other than that, it FLIES out of the box. Oh and Gingerbread is hawttttttttttt
Don't say one negative thing about the Nexus S until you go personally hold it. You'll probably end up buying it within 3 seconds of grasping it's awesomeness first hand.
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Appreciate the enthusiasm but that's a bit of an exaggeration, no?
From the Nexus S forums there seems to be a few people that aren't all that happy with their phones. Various FC's, spotty GPS, poor call quality. I'm seeing more complaints that I thought I would have.
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From the Nexus S forums there seems to be a few people that aren't all that happy with their phones. Various FC's, spotty GPS, poor call quality. I'm seeing more complaints that I thought I would have.
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Are you unaware of the season? I know people expect their GPS to work underground but it doesn't ALWAYS work. That and Nexus owners have this sense of entitlement and ***** at the slightest problem as if battery pack just blew up when the battery meter jumps from 100 to 97 fresh off of the charger.
Thank Google for the FC's and poor call quality. Google has some type of noise compression that's software based. Of course, they're controlling the software which means it's supposed to be 100% awesome 100% of the time.
I held one in best buy, and while it is nicer then vibrant, its still nothing special. Gingerbread sucks, I have all gingerbread I need on my vibrant already, I don't really care about game optimization which was the main focus on Ginger. For me its a 50/50 betweeen upgrade and downgrade, the only problem is that its almost 600 bucks....
Hardware let me down, software let me down, maybe developers will surprise me.
vapotrini said:
Appreciate the enthusiasm but that's a bit of an exaggeration, no?
From the Nexus S forums there seems to be a few people that aren't all that happy with their phones. Various FC's, spotty GPS, poor call quality. I'm seeing more complaints that I thought I would have.
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Yea might have FC but thats because software isn't working with 2.3 and needs to be updated. This is the developers responsibility not Google...Gingerbread is perfect and run absolutely fine.
Also FYI you will always find people complaining about one thing or another doesn't matter how revolutionary and stable a product is...even more so when you dont actually have hands on experience and seems to be looking for as much negative things possible to justify your decision on not getting it
Give it time apparently cryogen team are working on porting to galaxy s
Also dont think im just trying to justify my purchase and will say anything because this isn't the case i still have my vibrant and have 14 days to return to get my money back....so far im keeping it
kolyan said:
Gingerbread sucks, I have all gingerbread I need on my vibrant already
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LOL gingerbread sucks but yet you want your vibrant to look like it BTW how that JIT optimization doing for you on your Gingerbread themed 2.2 that's running on rfs
demo23019 said:
LOL gingerbread sucks but yet you want your vibrant to look like it BTW how that JIT optimization doing for you on your Gingerbread themed 2.2 that's running on rfs
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I wanted to say that Gingerbread has very little to offer. It looks good, it has updated copy/paste, keyboard, and optimization for games. I have all those things and more (due to TouchWiz extras) except for optimization for games.....
And frankly speaking, Nero v1 (obviously with JIT) runs very fast and has zero FC.....and it only gets better day by day.
JIT has nothing to do with NS running a bit faster, its ext4. and even after that people are still reporting "laggy browser" in NS, which is THE ONLY issue I have with Vibrant right now.
How is the Screen? Compared to lets say SAMOLED and Retina.
Is the Sound Quality good in the music player?
Is it truly faster?
Camera Good?
Will 2.3 make it REALLY fast?
With the way phones move and become outdated will the Atrix ever realize its true potential?
How is the build Quality/In Person?
Are YOU overall satisfied with it?
There was SO much hype behind it and what happened?? Now people are saying it was a waste, not good, disappointment, etc.
I have sex with mine
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Technology on other phones has caught up for the most part, and the locked bootloader has proven to be an anchor around its neck. Other than that, it's tits.
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ChongoDroid said:
I have sex with mine
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WOW! Fantastic and informative post!
ChongoDroid said:
I have sex with mine
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I do too, and the quick snap battery cover makes it a breeze to clean after!
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Well, i have the atrix myself and honestly im thinking of selling it an buying the lg optimus 2x. the biggest plus for the atrix are the better battery, the superior screen, and well the 1gb ram as opposed to the 512 on the lg, webtop is not bad either, but the locked bootloader is a legendary fail on the atrix (including all the restrictions moto put on...), for instance the optimus already has a working cm 7 mod, i dont believe atrix will have one anytime soon. however if you dont want to mod it and stuff than the atrix is great for you. The phone is fast, camer is semi decent, some phones have worser build quality than others ( i exchanged mine due to a nonworking fingerprint scanner - it was just some software bug and got one that has a squeaky shell ... im still hitting my head against the wall for swapping it out ...). I have a simunlocked one thats att branded tho and i had issues with wifi, to get it to work in my country, which i luckyly managed to fix some now im in general satisfied with it, it does pain big time tho that we cant do cm7 or other custom roms/kernels on it.
ChongoDroid said:
I have sex with mine
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Mine likes to watch.
I find the screen to be good, yes its only LCD but the resolution is high and its is sharp and clear, then I don't find AMOLED screens to be as superior as everyone tosses on about anyway.
Sound quality is great, dependant on source of course.
Camera i find to be very good, slight annoying delay after button press for it to focus, but I can get very good shots with it (for a phone). People that diss a camera phone because of pixel count are retarded and don't know **** about digital cameras.
2.3 gives quite a boost to most phones so I guess so.
There are several more Tegra 2 phones to come out yet, i think it will only mature as a device. Exponentially if Moto unlock the bootloader.
I dont think you will get better build quality in a plastic bodied phone.
Sure am.
Most of this talk is centred around the locked bootloader an motoblur. motoblur can be gotten rid of easily with root and all fingers crossed on the bootloader thing.
solidkevin said:
How is the Screen? Compared to lets say SAMOLED and Retina.
Is the Sound Quality good in the music player?
Is it truly faster?
Camera Good?
Will 2.3 make it REALLY fast?
With the way phones move and become outdated will the Atrix ever realize its true potential?
How is the build Quality/In Person?
Are YOU overall satisfied with it?
There was SO much hype behind it and what happened?? Now people are saying it was a waste, not good, disappointment, etc.
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1. screen's not bad. Doesn't match in Retina and SAMOLED in awsomeness dept though.
2. Music as in by the phone itself or with 3.5mm jack in a car? Otherwise it's pretty good.
3. Yeah, it's pretty snappy. This is my 4th android phone. Fastest one so far. Not bad for a stock ROM.
4. I'm not keen on 2.3 other than it has a better app/task/battery management. Someone else has to answer this. Or google it.
5. IMO, this phone isn't selling like hot cakes. Therefore, Motorola will put this phone in the back burner for support. So no, I don't think so.
6. I like the build quality. I dropped my phone once. I was sitting on my chair and it fell out of my pocket. Not a scratch. Feels cheapish IMO. But it feels good in the hand. (That's what she said.)
7. Yes, I'm happy with this phone. Custom ROM with a dual core would be %100 orgasmic.
8. Developement community doesn't locked bootloaders. Since they can't create custom ROMs on it, why buy it y'know?
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It's my first android phone and I like it, but it did teach me one thing...do not pre-order anything until someone else has it and you can read about it afterwards. I got this because of how cool my buddy's Galaxy S on T-mo was to load new roms and overclocks and all that good stuff. I didn't know anything at the time I preordered about locked bootloaders.
waktasz said:
It's my first android phone and I like it, but it did teach me one thing...do not pre-order anything until someone else has it and you can read about it afterwards. I got this because of how cool my buddy's Galaxy S on T-mo was to load new roms and overclocks and all that good stuff. I didn't know anything at the time I preordered about locked bootloaders.
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I have a Tmobile Galaxy S phone. Great for roms, but stock it is slow.
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solidkevin said:
WOW! Fantastic and informative post!
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WOW! What did you expect from such a question? No its a bad phone... Derp
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