I recently aquired the Vibrant and all I have to say is OMG this is a fnatastic phone. it blows my cliq, cliq xt, and g1 out of the water.
Anywho, the one question I have now that my phone is rooted and has the clockworkmod recovery is when the 2.2 update releases around september-ish, will this effect the phone being able to update like it did for the cliq, or will i be able to flash 2.2 from root and just lose root. i would be ok with it at that point because 2.2 takes care of all the issues that i have with 2.1 update1. the only reason i know this is because i have 2.2 on the g1 and its amazing. any thlughts on the matter?
once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
chucky80 said:
once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
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yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
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yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
ok so its more in line with what the g1 used to do if you didnt go onto a modified rom. with the cliq, even if you root and are on the stock rom, you still cant load the ota update because it fails when you try to load it once downloaded. i dont mind losing root once 2.2 comes out, i just want to make sure i can get it. i was thinking of going back to stock without root, but i'm having some trouble getting the phone in download mode
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
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Thanks for the input. Has this been the case for any other phone? Where rooting only will still get you OTA updates, or is this a theory?
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Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
If you have a rooted G1 (reading your sig) wouldn't the answer be self explanatory?
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If you have a rooted G1 (reading your sig) wouldn't the answer be self explanatory?
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Did you even read my question?
What does my Sig have to do with my question?
I have a Nexus One and I don't want to miss future updates, such as "Adobe Flash" which is a proprietary app and I don't want to miss out.
If you install ROMs, I assumed you would know that you cannot receive OTA updates anymore. Which I'm sure you do. I don't know personally if rooting your phone, and still using the stock system will disable you from receiving OTA updates. So I'm not of use here. Don't know why I posted here myself lol. Thanks for the harshly toned text ._.
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If you install ROMs, I assumed you would know that you cannot receive OTA updates anymore. Which I'm sure you do. I don't know personally if rooting your phone, and still using the stock system will disable you from receiving OTA updates. So I'm not of use here. Don't know why I posted here myself lol. Thanks for the harshly toned text ._.
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kthanx. I think.
BookCase said:
Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
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i'm also interested in this question. i would like to root my n1, but i would also like to receive OTA updates from google. i don't plan on installing a custom ROM, just use stock and root for the purpose of wifi tether and a few other root apps. anyone?
I am wondering this as well. I installed the bacon addon from cyanogen and don't want to screw myself out of the ota updates.
Thanks.
You can't have everything people. Pick one. If you need to revert back, I wrote a tutorial.
Chances are you are going to see the updates here first. You guys should know that already unless you are one of those people that come in here, download an update and leave for a few months and recheck to see if there are any other updates.
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You can't have everything people. Pick one. If you need to revert back, I wrote a tutorial.
Chances are you are going to see the updates here first. You guys should know that already unless you are one of those people that come in here, download an update and leave for a few months and recheck to see if there are any other updates.
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Sorry, I'm not referring to running a custom ROM. I just want to know if i unlock and ROOT but, keep the original ROM, will I still get the OTA updates or no? So, if anyone knows, I'd gratefully appreciate it.
As far as I understand, as long as you're using the stock, signed Nexus One ROM, nothing would change that would prevent you from receiving OTA updates.
I'm not positive.
The reason custom ROMs do not get OTA updates is because they have the files for them removed, and in the case of the G1, the partition used for doing those is removed if you have the DangerSPL.
Simply rooting and keeping stock should allow you to OTA update still no problem, but like was already pointed out, the updates will be on here befor they are released OTA, and a good cooked ROM is 10times better than the stock.
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The reason custom ROMs do not get OTA updates is because they have the files for them removed, and in the case of the G1, the partition used for doing those is removed if you have the DangerSPL.
Simply rooting and keeping stock should allow you to OTA update still no problem, but like was already pointed out, the updates will be on here befor they are released OTA, and a good cooked ROM is 10times better than the stock.
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Thank you.
flomid said:
i'm also interested in this question. i would like to root my n1, but i would also like to receive OTA updates from google. i don't plan on installing a custom ROM, just use stock and root for the purpose of wifi tether and a few other root apps. anyone?
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If you do root and want your wifi to work you have to flash a rom i think, i rooted and didnt plan on flashing a rom but had to to get the wifi working.
did u root with superboot over a modaco, as i had no probs with wifi, after i rooted.
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Will Unlocking + ROOTing my Nexus One prevent me from recieving future OTA updates from Google or no?
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Why does this matter??????????????
If you rooted, you'd get the OTA updates faster than OTA people!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a 100% stock, un-rooted N1. I didn't get the OTA update within the first day, so I did it manually anyway.
What is the point of fearing that you'll miss out on OTA updates??? With root, that should be your *LAST* concern.
BTW guaranteed you will get Flash sooner with a rooted phone than without!
These threads make no sense whatsoever.
Once The Samsung Epic Comes out. if i use the one click root how would i be able to use free wifi tether and apps 2 sd? I would like to use those b4 the 2.2 update comes out? Also Do i have to unroot to install the stock 2.2 update when it comes out.
Sorry Going to be new to Android.
davidrules7778 said:
Once The Samsung Epic Comes out. if i use the one click root how would i be able to use free wifi tether and apps 2 sd? I would like to use those b4 the 2.2 update comes out? Also Do i have to unroot to install the stock 2.2 update when it comes out.
Sorry Going to be new to Android.
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As far as updating to 2.2 you should probably wait til one of the devs releases a version of 2.2 that maintains root. If u update to stock 2.2 you may not be able to root without going backwards.
Apps2sd usually gets baked into a ROM and enabled that way and the wifi tether app should work. WHo knows, we may need a modified kernel to get it going
Samsung should release their source code for the Epic 4G once it launches.
We already have the source codes for the Vibrant and Captivate.
My guess - and its just that a guess - is that one click root is already patched in the Epic. We will have to figure out our own root method.
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My guess - and its just that a guess - is that one click root is already patched in the Epic. We will have to figure out our own root method.
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so ur saying is this most likelu the easy one click root wont be available or work on the epic? tjays gonna suck for noobs to android.
davidrules7778 said:
so ur saying is this most likelu the easy one click root wont be available or work on the epic? tjays gonna suck for noobs to android.
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Maybe, maybe not. It could go either way and work, or not work. Regardless, it probably won't take long to find the root path. I'm content using stock for a few days if need be.
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so ur saying is this most likelu the easy one click root wont be available or work on the epic? tjays gonna suck for noobs to android.
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Sprint is pretty quick about patching root exploits - quicker than fixing broken software. Look at the EVO - just a few days after release they had an "SDCard fix" that patched root that was found before release. Given not well, because they didn't update HBoot, but still.
It shouldn't take long for us to find a method of root - max its taken so far is like 6 months on the incredible. But I strongly doubt current methods will work, they have had way to much time to be able to fix them.
The good part here is that we don't have to deal with a locked boot loader like Motorola. Those guys have had root since week 1 and still can't load roms. So once we get root, its all gravy.
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Once The Samsung Epic Comes out. if i use the one click root how would i be able to use free wifi tether and apps 2 sd? I would like to use those b4 the 2.2 update comes out? Also Do i have to unroot to install the stock 2.2 update when it comes out.
Sorry Going to be new to Android.
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as far as rooting and recieving the update, yes. The cool thing about clockwork recovery on the SGS is it does not fully flash a Recovery, it only boots into clockwork when you want to install something. So basically everytime you flash etc. you need to reboot into clockwork recovery. When rebooted it goes right back to the old recovery still allowing for ota updates.
I will be trying the 1 click as soon as I get my Epic in... PreOrder is in now. I will let you know as soon as I get it if it's working.
So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
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So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
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Yeah it's my first post here, but i've been reading instructions on how to root and unroot. My phone is working perfectly fine with the leaked update. However, when Sprint releases the official update, will the rooted phones receive the announcememnt and will we be able to update it? lol
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Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
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rooting your phone does not block official ota updates, flashing custom kernels and roms will. also if you do not delete any sprint apps (nascar, telenav) you should not have any problems upgrading to new updates ota.
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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dk28 would be considered a non stock (ie custom) rom
no you will not get the update ota.
TorelliB said:
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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Lots of super fun havoc
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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so i did the same thing, downloaded the update.zip file, put it in my memory card and updated the phone using the recovery mode, so i'm not rooted just flashed, and wont be able to get the OTA update from Google?, btw im having a bit of troble with the GPS, when i enable it it say im abot 20 blocks away from my actual location, however, when i connect to a wireless network, per say my home network the location is right 0.o
other than that, the phone is working just fine
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
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I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
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Wrong section.
Root it. You can always unroot your phone and go back to stock. Ive done it plenty of time. Read through the forums....there are plenty of instructions on how to
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Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
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Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
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this ^^
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You can always flash back to stock if you don't like what you did to it. I end up flashing to stock, then flashing to a rom every other week or so to clean any messes with my phone. You'll learn how to do it right and how to fix. But start by reading the stickies, and asking the guys on irc if you have questions.
I'ld be more concerned that if you get the OTA before you root, that the update will close the exploit and make it impossible to root afterwards. If you root now, you may have to wait a day or two longer for Froyo. But if you plan to root after (or if you unroot for an OTA), you may have to wait a lot longer for a new root method.
Root and ROM. no question about it. We haven't even heard a release date or even a time frame for when the Fascinate will get it. I know everyone bashes me for this but the bottom line is no one has ever came out and said that the fascinate will get it on this date. Maybe the galaxy S is. But not the VERIZON FASCINATE
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Ok a little help here guys, My DX is currently running ApeX1.4.0 Froyo and earlier today the Gingerbread update got pushed to my phone, now with my knowledge about rooted phones tells me that rooted phones DONT get official updates OTA and Im kinda freaked out that it will ruin my root or brick my phone at this point its downloaded to my phone and keeps asking me to install it, help me out here people!
If you want to stay rooted than do not install the ota! There hasn't been any method found to root the official version yet
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If you want to stay rooted than do not install the ota! There hasn't been any method found to root the official version yet
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What? No.
Op, it will just try to install, and then fail. Then you're all set. Nothing bad will happen
Thanks Jmoney47,hanone I was getting worried for a second there
Even if you did get it, you can still get back to froyo, but you don't have to worry