Sprint retentions dept. - Hero CDMA General

Well I went a nice little go round with them. 1st off Sprint lost my rebate for my Blackberry. But we got that one resolved by crediting my acct $100. So next months bill =$36.
I also was pissed about having an employee call my cell one night after 10pm.
Also on Thursday was supposed to get a callback from a supervisor, never happened.
The Yesterday sat on hold waiting for super for 40 plus minutes before being disconnected, only to have to call back and wait another 20ish for a supervisor who just gave excuses.
CS rep on web chat didn't like the way it was handled, and I actually kept a copy of the log chat we had. She was on chat with me for almost 2 hours yesterday.
So I just sent the log transcript to Dan. Got a generic reply
"Thank you for taking the time to write. We review all the ideas and
feedback we receive. A representative from my office will be contacting
you very soon.
In the meantime, I encourage you to visit www.sprint.com to learn more.
Sprint offers the best value in the industry and makes using wireless
simpler and more worry-free through our Simply Everything plans. Our new
Any Mobile, Anytime feature on our Everything Data plans helps you to
break free of restrictive "calling circles." And, our Ready Now program
allows you to make an appointment with a store representative to become
an expert on your device.
Once again, from all of us at Sprint, thank you."
Now all I asked for in a resolution was change my upgrade date or waive my deposit on 3rd line. Super said he couldnt do that and if he did I would have to move in with him his dog and 3 kids. Not very professional.
Now the wait begins, lets see what I get from Dan's office.

I hate Sprint.
Phone companies in general, actually.... not just Sprint. I have found they don't respond well to politeness. Lawyer threats are always the way to go with these assholes.

doojer said:
I hate Sprint.
Phone companies in general, actually.... not just Sprint. I have found they don't respond well to politeness. Lawyer threats are always the way to go with these assholes.
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Yeah I told them I was going to look into the legality of the after 10pm phone call I got. NYS has some wierd laws. But they work well.

doojer said:
I hate Sprint.
Phone companies in general, actually.... not just Sprint. I have found they don't respond well to politeness. Lawyer threats are always the way to go with these assholes.
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Yeah, thats the way to get a company to do what you want, threaten them.... I get a kick out of people who think threatening to sue, unless its a small company, is going to get them anywhere. Companies know your not going to pay $100hr attorney over a $200 phone. It just makes you look stupid....
I've worked for several large corporations and been in customer service over 30 years, threats rarely get you anywhere. The key is being calm and rational and going up the chain til you get someone who can resolve the issue to your liking.
If you go high enough, you will get results, you just need to be more determined than they are...................

See I am not going to get a lawyer. I am just checking the legality of the calling after certain hours. Then if need be, It can be forwarded to the state attorney generals office which would then investigate the matter.

smstutler said:
See I am not going to get a lawyer. I am just checking the legality of the calling after certain hours. Then if need be, It can be forwarded to the state attorney generals office which would then investigate the matter.
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I'm pretty sure the law is no calls after 9pm.....unless you gave them the ok to call....

Telemarketers 9pm.

I guess you can rule out getting a robot call asking you to complete a survey regarding your satisfaction with their customer service dept. That's what I got today after Sprint CS resolved a similar request from me yesterday. They credited my account for an activation fee their reps at the mall told me would be waived.
Anyway, I was polite with my call (two calls, actually) and was satisfied with their response. Maybe your CS rep was having a bad day... don't we all sometimes?
Disclaimer: Not an employee or in any way involved with Sprint.

BulldogJim said:
I guess you can rule out getting a robot call asking you to complete a survey regarding your satisfaction with their customer service dept. That's what I got today after Sprint CS resolved a similar request from me yesterday. They credited my account for an activation fee their reps at the mall told me would be waived.
Anyway, I was polite with my call (two calls, actually) and was satisfied with their response. Maybe your CS rep was having a bad day... don't we all sometimes?
Disclaimer: Not an employee or in any way involved with Sprint.
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Normally I have had good luck with Sprint CS dept. Got all my credit's lined up correctly, but retention dept didn't seem to care about it. Just gonna keep climbing the ladder. I did manage to have a manager call me back, but the Rom/theme I was using froze my damn phone up when the call came in. So That setup is no longer in use. Tomorrow is Monday so I will be on the phone again to see what the deal is. Kind of hoping I can get this resolved into where I can get an EVO and pass the Hero down to GF. Get her off the damn BB 8530.

Sprint Executive Customer Service: 703-433-4401

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Sprint Executive Customer Service: 703-433-4401
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Def gonna give this one a call. Was not happy with excuses and a supervisor putting words in my mouth.

chfields said:
Yeah, thats the way to get a company to do what you want, threaten them.... I get a kick out of people who think threatening to sue, unless its a small company, is going to get them anywhere. Companies know your not going to pay $100hr attorney over a $200 phone. It just makes you look stupid....
I've worked for several large corporations and been in customer service over 30 years, threats rarely get you anywhere. The key is being calm and rational and going up the chain til you get someone who can resolve the issue to your liking.
If you go high enough, you will get results, you just need to be more determined than they are...................
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Guess that's your experience.... I tried being polite to Sprint for weeks. Funny enough, they perked right up when I mentioned a lawyer. Next thing I know, I was showered with credits and gifts.
Funny how that worked.
And, BTW, my company has a lawyer on payroll. It's no skin off my back to go to court.

doojer said:
Guess that's your experience.... I tried being polite to Sprint for weeks. Funny enough, they perked right up when I mentioned a lawyer. Next thing I know, I was showered with credits and gifts.
Funny how that worked.
And, BTW, my company has a lawyer on payroll. It's no skin off my back to go to court.
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There are exceptions to every rule, but I highly doubt the company is going to use their lawyer for something this petty, unless of course, your the owner....The point is being polite will get you farther than being rude and threatening. If your rude and threatening enough, they will go ahead and dump you because your not worth the hassle. I see it everyday, we hate to do it, but sometimes customers are more hassle than they are worth....................

smstutler said:
So I just sent the log transcript to Dan. Got a generic reply
"Thank you for taking the time to write. We review all the ideas and
feedback we receive. A representative from my office will be contacting
you very soon.
In the meantime, I encourage you to visit www.sprint.com to learn more.
Sprint offers the best value in the industry and makes using wireless
simpler and more worry-free through our Simply Everything plans. Our new
Any Mobile, Anytime feature on our Everything Data plans helps you to
break free of restrictive "calling circles." And, our Ready Now program
allows you to make an appointment with a store representative to become
an expert on your device.
Once again, from all of us at Sprint, thank you."
Now the wait begins, lets see what I get from Dan's office.
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Just my 2 cents, which I know doesn't mean much since I don't post a lot in here, but that [email protected] address is b.s. Every time I've used that address I've had someone rude contact me that refuses to help. The last time it got escalated to a supervisor within that supposed escalation group...and the lady called me back chomping on gum, not listening to a word I said, and offering no viable solutions (which was like a week ago).
I've personally had much better luck escalating the issue through the normal channels. [email protected] would just put a "no" notation on my account log, which seems to make it very difficult to get a compromise through other channels.
Anyway just my 2 cents. Good luck

try [email protected]

I went through retention when my Palm Pres kept breaking and they were useless, but the escalations dept actually had the ability to do something and the willingness as well. Just a thought.
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lol @ [email protected]
Here's a very friendly suggestion, instead of giving threats and getting upset, just politely escalate. Every time. Every call. Just keep moving it up. Otherwise, you will get NOWHERE.
Do to some "changes" @ Sprint, I don't want to say we don't care, but there is "reduced" incentives for us to think outside the box, pretty much the way Verizon WON'T think outside the box. Just my 2 cents brother.
Just letting you know, the money giving away days and moving upgrade days at Sprint are grinding to a halt. Quickly.

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What's your worst customer service experience with Sprint?

Simple enough lol.
I normally have had excellent CS from Sprint, both over the phone, online, and in store, but today I had a flat out horrific chat experience online with them.
The chick knew nothing. I mean NOTHING. She told me to keep checking for updates after I told her I was on the newest update and gave her my version number (1.47.651.1 of course). Then, she lied to me about there not being any 4G coverage in the heart of downtown St. Louis!
I told her the map showed coverage and that my buddy's phone right next to me got 4G while mine didn't (of course it didn't, it has no certs ) and she said that there is no coverage there. The ZIP is 63102 by the way.
Then I told her again that my phone had service there before the update and that my buddy's did right then, and she said some jibberish then closed the chat.
Here's the worst part of the chat:
07/04/2010 04:48:11PM Jesse C: "63102"
07/04/2010 04:48:19PM Agent (Grace S.): "Ok, thank you."
07/04/2010 04:49:05PM Agent (Grace S.): "I am sorry to say that this area is not under the 4g network."
07/04/2010 04:49:26PM Jesse C: "The map shows that it is"
07/04/2010 04:50:33PM Agent (Grace S.): "I have checked with the help of required tool , the are under 63102 do not have the 4g coverage."
07/04/2010 04:51:05PM Jesse C: "I'm looking at the coverage map right now that says it does. My friends phone who was right next to me got 4G service"
07/04/2010 04:51:20PM Agent (Grace S.): "Ok."
07/04/2010 04:52:35PM Agent (Grace S.): "I understand that ."
07/04/2010 04:52:52PM Agent (Grace S.): "I have checked the basic ."
07/04/2010 04:53:33PM Agent (Grace S.): "Due to the technical nature of your concern please contact our technical support to resolve this issue."
07/04/2010 04:53:52PM Agent (Grace S.): "You can contact them at 1-888-211-4727"
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What the f*ck does "I have checked the basic ." even mean!?
Jeez Sprint, I was proud of your CS before this. This is just sad.
Anyways, please share your worst experience here.
Regards,
Jesse C.
P.S. Look up the 63102 zip on Sprints coverage maps. It's blanketed by 4G.
Thats pretty bad. I have only had one problem so far with Sprint CS, though I have only called a few times as I just switched to Sprint for the Evo. I called CS a couple days after I got the phone activated, and told the rep that I wanted to add discounts to my account, either school or work. She told me that id get a 13% discount with work, and that SHE would apply it to my account, and that it would be on my on the bill after next, and to not worry about it. She was a pretty nice lady though.
I called back a week later, and asked the progress of it and if it was in the system. This lady said there was no record of me even calling, and there were no notes..
After 3 calls and 3 stores (got the run around) I finally managed to got somebody that would send me the damn replacement phones.
However, she talked like a robot.
After every single sentence she would said: "We apologize for any inconvenience we may cause you, thank you for waiting" Never even put me on hold, just said that after she would say something else.
She also asked me 3 times "How is your day today?" And all 3 times I replied by saying "Oh, it's going pretty good, just got done with a golf tourney"
Those are just two of the things she said exactly the same multiple times while I was on the phone. It was kind of creepy how she seemed not to remember that she had already asked me the same **** several times already and how it was always word for word.
oOflyeyesOo said:
I called back a week later, and asked the progress of it and if it was in the system. This lady said there was no record of me even calling, and there were no notes..
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That would be a pain in the neck. I've had similar things happen with AT&T though.
They had the worst in store people ever (rude, hateful, and just plain ignorant of there being anything besides the iPhone) and over the phone wasn't much better. At one point I called to add the $20 unlimited texting plan to one line of the family plan, and she kept insisting that I add the $30 unlimited plan for the whole account. I turned her down 3 times, and she still added it. I had to call back and have it changed.
^^ Those things make me happy I switched.
BTW: @oOflyeyesOo I noticed you're in St. Louis too, whereabouts you at? What kinda speeds do you pick up on 4G?
EDIT: @hrshycro Ha yeah that sounds pretty creepy. My in-store Sprint rep was really full of himself lol but hell he was funny. He would mess with all the customers though, which could be annoying if you aren't the joking type. He messed with an old lady about picking out a red phone, which I thought was a little over the line, but otherwise he was pretty good.
Everytime I call I get someone in the philippines. I'm assuming that country because at&t has call centers there. I always get someone who doesn't know what they are doing and always get different answers. I just hit my 30 day period today and I need to swap my EVOs and RS tells me that they will swap it after the 30 days. All I know is that they better or else someone is going to get earth slammed.
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I've actually had good experiences so far with Sprint. All of the talk I've heard about the service and the customer service have been proven wrong. I got my Evo and my girlfriend's Evo by walking in.
gqstatus0685 said:
Everytime I call I get someone in the philippines. I'm assuming that country because at&t has call centers there. I always get someone who doesn't know what they are doing and always get different answers. I just hit my 30 day period today and I need to swap my EVOs and RS tells me that they will swap it after the 30 days. All I know is that they better or else someone is going to get earth slammed.
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My 30 days is up too, so they batter refund me money whenever I get the replacement mailer to send them back in and they get them...
Usually, I have had great customer service. The only problems are when they want to test my cell remotely, and they ask me to call from a land line. And I don't have a land line. So the test cannot be performed, and I have to go to the Sprint store. They assume you have a land line at home, which fewer people have each day.
I have been with them over 10 years.
Whenever I bug them about a fee or something, they give me credit. One day I even took my Blackberry, and they simple replaced it for a new one. I had no insurance and the BB was 6 months old.
baiatul said:
Usually, I have had great customer service. The only problems are when they want to test my cell remotely, and they ask me to call from a land line. And I don't have a land line. So the test cannot be performed, and I have to go to the Sprint store. They assume you have a land line at home, which fewer people have each day.
I have been with them over 10 years.
Whenever I bug them about a fee or something, they give me credit. One day I even took my Blackberry, and they simple replaced it for a new one. I had no insurance and the BB was 6 months old.
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That's awesome! Other than what happened today, I've actually typically had really great experiences with them in store & online, so I'm hoping this is just a one time thing lol.
It's nice to hear that most people have had no issues.
Well, I remembered another problem.
I found a Sprint cell phone in the snow. I called *2 and I told them, I found a cell phone.
They told me what was my cell number. I said, well, I don't know, I just found it and I would like you to call the owner at home, or send him an email.
They insisted that I should give them my name, which I did, and they told me that it does not match the name on the cell phone.
I replied that of course, because it was a Sprint cell phone I found in the snow. Somebody dropped it.
They told me there was nothing they could do about it.
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Eventually the cell phone's battery died, but it happened to be just like my cell phone, so I put in my battery and waited for the call, she called...and then I met this nice Japanese girl at a corner that insisted that I take like 50 bucks. I didn't.
But really, customer representatives are like robots. When there is something unexpected, they have no clue about what to do. And I was disappointed that if I lose my cell, and somebody calls Sprint, they cannot do anything about it.
(they may be lazy.)
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Well, I remembered another problem.
I found a Sprint cell phone in the snow. I called *2 and I told them, I found a cell phone.
They told me what was my cell number. I said, well, I don't know, I just found it and I would like you to call the owner at home, or send him an email.
They insisted that I should give them my name, which I did, and they told me that it does not match the name on the cell phone.
I replied that of course, because it was a Sprint cell phone I found in the snow. Somebody dropped it.
They told me there was nothing they could do about it.
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Eventually the cell phone's battery died, but it happened to be just like my cell phone, so I put in my battery and waited for the call, she called...and then I met this nice Japanese girl at a corner that insisted that I take like 50 bucks. I didn't.
But really, customer representatives are like robots. When there is something unexpected, they have no clue about what to do. And I was disappointed that if I lose my cell, and somebody calls Sprint, they cannot do anything about it.
(they may be lazy.)
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Yeah, that was my problem, they're just robots; they talk like robots and do like robots, and nothing else. Actually made me wonder if they only knew a few english words.
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Yeah, that was my problem, they're just robots; they talk like robots and do like robots, and nothing else. Actually made me wonder if they only knew a few english words.
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It really wouldn't surprise me if they only knew enough to get through basic convos. Most of my Sprint CS calls were with American sounding people (or people that spoke excellent English one way or another) but we've all had those "me no speaky" types if you'll forgive the stereotype
That chat rep I spoke to sure seemed to stumble through the language. It could have almost been machine translated from any language better.
Sprint sent me a touch pro 2 replacement after mine killed itself. Half of the keys wouldn't work so I called sprint up to tell them they sent me a broken phone. They told me to take it to the nearest corporate sprint store which is about 45 minutes away. So I get there and explain the situation and their response was "Nope, can't fix it". At this point i was pissed. So i went home and called sprint again. This time, my mother talked to the service rep. She yelled at the damn rep and they said they would send me a brand new phone. When the new one got here. There were big blue spots all over the inside of the screen. I just bought a palm pre and kept the replacement as a back up.
Sprint has been good to me...at least better than AT&T was.
my mom has been a sprint customer for like 13 years and whenever she talks to sprint cs reps it's over the phone... and whenever she uses up her minutes and her bill is high, she just calls and they'll cut it. but of course when i get my evo the treatment changes all of a sudden. the first time i called sprint it was bcuz my evo was bricked, so they said take it to bestbuy cuz we can't do anything for you. that conversation lasted literally 1 minute bcuz the girl didn't know what she was doing and she told me to take out the battery wait 2 days and then try to turn the phone on. i told her that this wasn't going to solve anything so she yelled goodbye and hung up
Geez. Do you guys expect the customer representatives to know every knicks and knacks of this phone? It's not they're fault they're given scripts and are under tight restrictions as to what they can do and say. Sure they may be seem robotic, but can't blame them. All customer representatives who just talks on the phone the whole will eventually sound like one.
Just saying that you guys are being a little harsh towards them. I would very much rather talk to them than actual robots.. er automated systems.
From the HTC Evo!!
BTW: @oOflyeyesOo I noticed you're in St. Louis too, whereabouts you at? What kinda speeds do you pick up on 4G?
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I live in the Ballwin area, near chesterfield. I get a 4G signal here, but its very weak signal, I never get any bars. Yesterday I was getting a bit better speeds when running speedtests. I was getting 2500-3000 down, and only 150 up... But a week before I was constantly getting speed tests that were in the hundreds, so atleast its getting a little better. Its still iffy though, I still don't get a constant connection, as when I try to download torrents, it might get to 150kb/s, but then drops back down fast, then slowly goes up again and back down, never constant.
oOflyeyesOo said:
I live in the Ballwin area, near chesterfield. I get a 4G signal here, but its very weak signal, I never get any bars. Yesterday I was getting a bit better speeds when running speedtests. I was getting 2500-3000 down, and only 150 up... But a week before I was constantly getting speed tests that were in the hundreds, so atleast its getting a little better. Its still iffy though, I still don't get a constant connection, as when I try to download torrents, it might get to 150kb/s, but then drops back down fast, then slowly goes up again and back down, never constant.
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Hey at least you get 4G! I'm down around Festus and we aren't on the list until Sprint is scheduled to upgrade the surrounding St. Louis areas until next May! Haha
Its nice to see those speeds. Before I screwed up my 4G the highest I ever hit was 2500, with most of them being about 1500-2000, speeds I can hit on 3G here.
Also, my torrents are always fluctuating like that over my 3G connection, its kind of a bummer lol
brennod10 said:
my mom has been a sprint customer for like 13 years and whenever she talks to sprint cs reps it's over the phone... and whenever she uses up her minutes and her bill is high, she just calls and they'll cut it. but of course when i get my evo the treatment changes all of a sudden. the first time i called sprint it was bcuz my evo was bricked, so they said take it to bestbuy cuz we can't do anything for you. that conversation lasted literally 1 minute bcuz the girl didn't know what she was doing and she told me to take out the battery wait 2 days and then try to turn the phone on. i told her that this wasn't going to solve anything so she yelled goodbye and hung up
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the cs rep Hung up on you, Damn homie
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JUST2SUAVE said:
the cs rep Hung up on you, Damn homie
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I honestly can't tell if that is sarcasm or not LOL!
I went to the store the other day to get my phone replaced because the power button is lower then what it should be making it difficult to turn on. The store where I originally bought it from ( a corporate store) said they would but I was moving so I didn't have time. So anyways I tried to get it replaced and some b*tch said it was a cosmetic defect and not a functionality issue. So she would not replace it. I eminently called Sprint cs and they said it would be replaced but the store would still not do it. On top of that cs said that the evo could only be replaced in store. I will only be within my 30 days for a few more days. BS I guess I have to get it from my original store.
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I love Sprint "take-advantage" customers.

My current call - right this moment "I want a $129.99 credit (month free) for having to call in because you guys sent me a letter in the mail stating something changed" "Why yes, what changed was us fixing your contract, so this is a letter stating we fixed it" "Well, I have to take time out of my day for this so I want a credit" .... "No, let me get you over to my voicemail"
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My current call - right this moment "I want a $129.99 credit (month free) for having to call in because you guys sent me a letter in the mail stating something changed" "Why yes, what changed was us fixing your contract, so this is a letter stating we fixed it" "Well, I have to take time out of my day for this so I want a credit" .... "No, let me get you over to my voicemail"
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Those are my "favorite" customers. I'm just glad I only have to fix their internet connection and not their bill.
Yeah. There's a lot of jack asses out there that believe they are entitled for something because of whatever lame excuse they can think of. "You owe me..." I don't owe you anything lady, now shuffle off or I will call the police for you harrassing me and my customers and for loitering too! "I don't like your attitude. What's your name? What's your boss's name? What's their supervisor's name? What's their phone number? What's your full name? What's your last name? Why won't you tell me your last name?!
stfu & gtfo
I liked a bumper sticker at a local taco place. It said, "some people call them a pain in the ass, we call them customers"
Well, Sprint can be a push over, you gotta admit that.. for those who push hard enough will usually get their way
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Well, Sprint can be a push over, you gotta admit that.. for those who push hard enough will usually get their way
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True, but you definitely don't want to get to that person that will call your bluff (me) because your account will be cancelled before you even know. You will be talking for 20 minutes and your account was cancelled 15 minutes ago
Got to loveworking customer service, I currently work for ATT but was business account retention with Sprint for a while....
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True, but you definitely don't want to get to that person that will call your bluff (me) because your account will be cancelled before you even know. You will be talking for 20 minutes and your account was cancelled 15 minutes ago
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Thats why i never threaten to cancel. i find if u are nice the rep is more likely to help you out. Im glad i dont have to talk to ppl like that all day, i gotta say you must have a helluva lot of patience. My dad used to have a little telemarketing/vacuum sales business back in the day and i remember we used to hire new employees weekly cuz so many ppl cant handle it.
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Thats why i never threaten to cancel. i find if u are nice the rep is more likely to help you out. Im glad i dont have to talk to ppl like that all day, i gotta say you must have a helluva lot of patience. My dad used to have a little telemarketing/vacuum sales business back in the day and i remember we used to hire new employees weekly cuz so many ppl cant handle it.
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I do have a lot of patience, plus the $ is definitely worth it - in commission alone i've made about 10 thousand so far this year
while I fully agree with you, i work technical support at an inbound call center, there are plenty of businesses that are worse than the customers. You know the aggravation when you have to call ATT and you are on the phone for an hour because they screwed up. oh and then they want you to stay on the line because they can't call you when its fixed when it was their problem in the first place. then you have to hangup and eat and call back the next day for another hour.
Thanks for that highly enlightening and informative post in the Epic forum. It's about as useful as the customer service we get from you jackholes.
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Thanks for that highly enlightening and informative post in the Epic forum. It's about as useful as the customer service we get from you jackholes.
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You're very welcome. Our customer service is great, you're just one of the girls that get's mad when she doesn't get her way

Sprint's customer service...

...is the best! That is all.
Sir, I'm afraid what you just said was a lie.
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Sir, I'm afraid what you just said was a lie.
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I BIG FAT BOLD FACE LIE. he must be Sprint Employee lol
yea i must say sprint by far has the worst customer service out of all carriers and ive dealt wit them all...by far the best is tmobile without a doubt
I've had awesome customer service from sprint. I always treat purple with respect and kindness and receive the same. If ur rude to the reps then they will not want to help u. They also just recently moved my one year premier upgrade a month early for me so I could get the epic
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(this isnt aimed at anyone... I re-read it and it sounds like I am trying to call people out, and I am not lol) if I went to your work at mcdonalds and was a **** about not wanting salt on my fries, would you smile and turn the other cheek and fix it? Or would you spit in my food? I will be the first to admit, if you are nice and respectful, I will bend over backwards to help you out. If you are a bag o' douche, then you can suck it. Social engineering makes the world go 'round.
When calling customer care for help on something, which one of these will work better?
"So, I love (like, enjoy, whatever) my sprint service, I have never had any issues with my account, but my phone is starting to act up. I have insurance, and know I can pay $100 thru assurion to get a new (refurbished) device. I know my upgrade isnt until november, but is it possible to move up my upgrade?"
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"I saw online you moved up someone elses upgrade by a month, and I demand the same thing or I will have to talk to your supervisor! I have had sprint service for 22 months and will cancel and tell everyone I know to cancel also if you dont do this. My uncle knows Dan Hesse and will make sure you get fired also."
I never have had any issues with getting my upgrades early. Got the epic for free even
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I've had awesome customer service from sprint. I always treat purple with respect and kindness and receive the same. If ur rude to the reps then they will not want to help u. They also just recently moved my one year premier upgrade a month early for me so I could get the epic
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Personally I treat all colors with respect. I am a bit partial to blue but purple deserves respect as well as the rest of the colors of the rainbow. Pardon the interruption, I had some teeth pulled today and the vico's are helping a bit too much...
I've had great customer service as well, but why in the heck is this in the dev forum????
i was hoping that no one responded to this stupid thread so it can get lost on page 2 somewhere. this has nothing to do with android development. oh well, the op got what he/she wanted......attention.
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i was hoping that no one responded to this stupid thread so it can get lost on page 2 somewhere. this has nothing to do with android development. oh well, the op got what he/she wanted......attention.
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not really , I was just happy that sprint credited me for my discounts on my remaining lines, and I forgot that I was in the dev section...
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Personally I treat all colors with respect. I am a bit partial to blue but purple deserves respect as well as the rest of the colors of the rainbow. Pardon the interruption, I had some teeth pulled today and the vico's are helping a bit too much...
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Omg that was hella funny. Well thats swype for ya.
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How did u get the epic for free?
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Call vzw and tell me how you feel sprint is by far the best. That is all
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I'm not quite as pleased with the customer service here as I was with vzw personally. I recently had a frustrating few days with them as I was one of the unlucky few to receive an epic with the malfunctioning capacitive buttons. Long story short they wouldn't swap me out for a new one, then I was talked down to for returning the malfunctioning device by the sales staff saying I was costing her a sale. I returned it and decided to just get another from best buy....payed a little extra but the device works great...just wish it wouldn't have been such an ordeal to get here
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As a customer service manager for 14 years I am particularly sensitive to how I am treated by other companies. I have a unique view from both sides of the fence so I am never overly judgmental or expect the world from anyone on the other end of the phone.
That being said, I have NEVER in my entire life been treated the way that sprint treated me as a brand new customer of only 2 1/2 months.
I switched to sprint because T-mobile coverage in my area was less than acceptable. Ever since switching I have been fighting with them over promises made, bills messed up, unauthorized billing, you name it. Not once have I ever spoken with anybody from sprint that has given me the impression that they care one bit for me as a customer.
The people they hire to man their phones could really care less whether you stay with sprint or not. Not even their escalation managers want to take any time to try and solve your problem.
The reps in the official stores are no better. Just as soon as they found out that I bought my epic from a "third party store" and not an official sprint corporate store they treated me like a red headed step child. Oh, I apologize that I didn't hunt down one of the 3 official sprint stores in Utah. The damn store had ONLY large yellow sprint decals all over the windows and sign. How the hell was I suppose to know that it wasn't an "official" sprint corporate store?
I made a HUGE mistake in switching to Sprint and the next two years can't come fast enough so that I can get out of my contract now.
It's also interesting to google "worst customer service". You will find Sprint at the top of every list.
Kafluke said:
As a customer service manager for 14 years I am particularly sensitive to how I am treated by other companies. I have a unique view from both sides of the fence so I am never overly judgmental or expect the world from anyone on the other end of the phone.
That being said, I have NEVER in my entire life been treated the way that sprint treated me as a brand new customer of only 2 1/2 months.
I switched to sprint because T-mobile coverage in my area was less than acceptable. Ever since switching I have been fighting with them over promises made, bills messed up, unauthorized billing, you name it. Not once have I ever spoken with anybody from sprint that has given me the impression that they care one bit for me as a customer.
The people they hire to man their phones could really care less whether you stay with sprint or not. Not even their escalation managers want to take any time to try and solve your problem.
The reps in the official stores are no better. Just as soon as they found out that I bought my epic from a "third party store" and not an official sprint corporate store they treated me like a red headed step child. Oh, I apologize that I didn't hunt down one of the 3 official sprint stores in Utah. The damn store had ONLY large yellow sprint decals all over the windows and sign. How the hell was I suppose to know that it wasn't an "official" sprint corporate store?
I made a HUGE mistake in switching to Sprint and the next two years can't come fast enough so that I can get out of my contract now.
It's also interesting to google "worst customer service". You will find Sprint at the top of every list.
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Ive been with them for 8 years the last 2 have shown great improvement.
In 2008 Sprint received a score of 56, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon all received scores above 70. Sprint received a 70 rating this year, a 14-point improvement which is pretty amazing really.
Your Google suggestion is very misleading with much of the sprint Worst CS being from prior years.
The current ratings are much better.
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/26293/
Anyway Sprint CS P me off at times...so does Cox cable internet , Directv , Samsung & a few others.
That's life
Hmm, i wouldn't know whether they are the best or the worst because i really don't know. The beauty of my Sprint service is that it works well enough that i don't call customer service.
sling said:
Ive been with them for 8 years the last 2 have shown great improvement.
In 2008 Sprint received a score of 56, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon all received scores above 70. Sprint received a 70 rating this year, a 14-point improvement which is pretty amazing really.
Your Google suggestion is very misleading with much of the sprint Worst CS being from prior years.
The current ratings are much better.
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/26293/
Anyway Sprint CS P me off at times...so does Cox cable internet , Directv , Samsung & a few others.
That's life
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How is it misleading? The very first google result is MSN's Customer Service Hall of Shame with Sprint at the top in 2007 and jumping only three spots to number 4 from 2007 - 2010.
2007 - 1st
2008 - 3rd
2009 - 3rd
2010 - 4th
You consider 4th worst company for customer service an improvement? When they disappear from that list altogether then I'll consider it an improvement. And before you start throwing this "well they're a big company" BS my way, consider that there are very large successful companies that never make this list.
Also that link you provided only compares their customer service with other wireless carriers. The MSN list is much more comprehensive.
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How is it misleading? The very first google result is MSN's Customer Service Hall of Shame with Sprint at the top in 2007 and jumping only three spots to number 4 from 2007 - 2010.
2007 - 1st
2008 - 3rd
2009 - 3rd
2010 - 4th
You consider 4th worst company for customer service an improvement? When they disappear from that list altogether then I'll consider it an improvement. And before you start throwing this "well they're a big company" BS my way, consider that there are very large successful companies that never make this list.
Also that link you provided only compares their customer service with other wireless carriers. The MSN list is much more comprehensive.
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Apples to oranges.
Of course you want to compare wireless service to other wireless service. What are you going to do? Dump your Sprint phone and buy a toaster because Litton Toasters customer service is better?
Oh, and please provide a link. I'd like to actually read what you're reading and, as funny as it is to do, not compare phone CS to toaster CS.
Thanks.
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How is it misleading? The very first google result is MSN's Customer Service Hall of Shame with Sprint at the top in 2007 and jumping only three spots to number 4 from 2007 - 2010.
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Ya I consider that improvement.
The 14% customer satisfaction increase in 2009 - 2010 is pretty amazing edging very close to their competition within 5%
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When they disappear from that list altogether then I'll consider it an improvement. And before you start throwing this "well they're a big company" BS my way, consider that there are very large successful companies that never make this list.
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Relax Im not making excuses for them.
I am stating that their making major improvements you disagree.
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na If in the market for cell phone I would compare carrier CS ratings , Prices & my local coverage.
Those factors made my decision easy.
My Coverage is better then the others , I save about 40.00 a month and get more.
I have no need to call CS everyday....maybe twice a year if headaches come from it oh well its worth great coverage & major savings.
Does that make sense to you?

I really need to say this because it hasn't been reflected by the forum recently

Sprint support is NOT terrible. I know that as humans, our minds tend to remember negative experiences for much longer than positive ones, and I know that people don't come to XDA to share when things are working, but I just had a wonderful session with a tech. I don't remember his name, but I do remember the amount of dedication he put forward for this problem. After having issues with receiving text messages for whoever knows how long, we speculated since I installed Google Voice and then uninstalled it, then not being able to send texts, I Odin'ed back to good old EC05 while re-partitioning and clearing my EFS. I don't know if it was this that broke things, doubt it, but then I tried to make a voice call for the first time in a few days. It failed with an error number 16 and then some switch number. I tried calling the phone and it told my that the Google Voice subscriber (who is me) was unavailable. After thinking 'WTF HAVE I DONE TO THIS!!!!!' for a few minutes I Google'd error 16. It involves fraud, ESN cloning, and running S-OFF (to root) on HTC EVOs. Normally they all got fixed by calling Sprint. I called and the rep removed GV completely from the account. That didn't work. After an hour of resets, refreshes, and trials, he created an E-ticket for me to get a replacement. During this time I had been Googleing the error 16 more. It said something about a CHLS reset. I'm not a rep but I mentioned that we should try it. He said that it had been done earlier but he was eager to try it again. At this point, if I had been handling the call, I would probably be pissed. The called wants me to try something I did half an hour ago. But nope, this rep was perfectly fine with my suggestion. This time it worked and I had all connections restored. I thanked him graciously and asked if, now that we were done, I could ask about the switch to LTE. He told me that he didn't have official information but he would tell me what he had heard/knew. He said that from what he knows that LTE and WiMax will coexist together, perhaps with dual band devices. We laughed at the battery usage of that but he did tell me that Sprint is looking to compete with Verizon for LTE coverage. That's exciting news for me, whether or not it is accurate. Verizon is getting LTE in Delaware, I know there is some 15 miles away from me, and that would be great.
TL;DR for this post: Sprint support is helpful and we only hear about negative experiences. I'm not saying that all calls end well, but we need to remember that every rep is different. There are people who are just doing their job, and there are people who do their job well. From my experience, the latter is much more common.
No they really do suck! All the way up to Executive services...they have locked down the ability to give any benefits to unsatisfied customers and they will straight up lie to cover their asses. They don't give a crap about the customer anymore. I have talked to a few that were nice however they were incompetent, so you can't have it both ways.
though the few support situations i've been in involve a sprint store, although they were kinda uninformed and just kept to the script and ended up being non-helpful both times, i won't say it was a good or bad experience. I'm glad to see someone giving them there props when their do to receive them.
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No they really do suck! All the way up to Executive services...they have locked down the ability to give any benefits to unsatisfied customers and they will straight up lie to cover their asses. They don't give a crap about the customer anymore. I have talked to a few that were nice however they were incompetent, so you can't have it both ways.
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wow Kenny, surely you don't lump all of us techs into that. I believe myself to be very competent, and I am certainly honest and straightforward.
And the "ability to give any benefits to unsatisfied customers" is pretty ridiculous as it generally sets unreasonable expectations for customers, especially those who then act as if courtesies and favors are expected to be given all the time.
Plus it's just good penny pinching. What do you expect from a company about to spend 10+ billion in the next year and half.
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I had a similiar problem awhile back but mine was with not being able to make calls while out of my home area in certain areas was kinda weird but I had 3g and 4g though. Long story short there was a special network reset on sprints end that fixed it for me and maybe it was a chls. This did also occur to me after efs clear.
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Okay, yeah, the store people suck. I've never had to call more than once for anything though, whether it was a replacement or even sorting out connection issues. All of the stores I've been in were rude. Ones in NY last time I was there blew me off with a 'hey yo sorry bro but we're busy here and you'll have to leave the phone with us for 4 hours but i dont think you want to do that'. The local store laughed at my mothers call dropping and said that if she can make and receive calls they don't need to help. I guess 5 second connections count as calls. Anyway, maybe I've been lucky! I had issues with Sprint TV and got a discount on my bill because it wasn't at all what I wanted.
Every time i had to call tech support i had a extremely nice and helpful person on the other end they even offered to throw me some credit to my account when my first epic had problems right out of the box and another time with my towers in my area were down for 24 hrs they credited 20 to my account the only bad experience i had was when i went inot the sprint store the on-site tech had absolutely no effin clue how to fix gps on my phone i was trying to calibrate it but it wouldnt lock (first epic right out of the box) he just had no clue about anything and when i showed him some stuff on the epic i got "oh i didnt know it did that" or "ill have to remember that for future troubleshooting" seriously they should really check these guys out before they hire them dude didnt know anything about Android and he was the lead android tech lol
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The people on the other end of the phone are people to, occasionally it can be hard to remember that when they know less than you do...after all, they supposedly do this for a living day in and day out.
The last time I called Sprint it was to add a Canadian calling plan and to ask what the roaming data rate was while in Canada. Both of these items required an inordinate number of transfers and when transferred the person on the other end of the line was clearly baffled as to why I would have been transferred to them. Both items seemed to be a rather simple request as far as I was concerned considering they were very happy to charge me for these services. I would have been happy to use the Internet to do this but the option was grayed out when I logged into my account and the data rate was posted in 5 different sections of the web site at 5 different amounts.
My Sprint cellular service is good in STL and the price (including discount) is marvelous but boy-oh-boy I don't know how these guys keep the lights on.
-sigh-...I suppose it is depressing how little my colleagues know.
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Geez, if I had known this would create such a controversy I never would have said anything. I never said that corporate Sprint decisions were good, I never said that I wouldn't like more power to be given to the reps, I only said that we should appreciate those who actually have the capability and training to help out those of us who need it. I know that not everybody is helpful. I also know that if this is how we act on by far one of the nicest XDA sub-forums that exists right now, imagine what these reps must be exposed to every day. If they are less than satisfactory, I wonder how they got that way. It couldn't be years of no appreciation, could it? I never meant to deny the trouble people have had with the support system, but bring some positive to the highly hostile attitude towards Sprint employees. The ones who take the flak aren't the ones who are causing problems. /rant
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wow Kenny, surely you don't lump all of us techs into that. I believe myself to be very competent, and I am certainly honest and straightforward.
And the "ability to give any benefits to unsatisfied customers" is pretty ridiculous as it generally sets unreasonable expectations for customers, especially those who then act as if courtesies and favors are expected to be given all the time.
Plus it's just good penny pinching. What do you expect from a company about to spend 10+ billion in the next year and half.
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No Squishy, definitely present company accepted. And up until a year ago everything was rosy with me an Sprint but something happened in corporate that turned the whole picture sour. Customer service was no longer first. Reps that actually wanted to help said their hands were tied. When I lost a $2000 job that I would have made in 1 days work because of an Airave upgrade Sprint denied it all the way up to Hesse's office. The Airave tech said an update had just went through and caused all calls in my home to go directly to voicemail. After resetting the Airave it was working again. I compained and asked for a simple courtesy to get an early upgrade or just move the date, or just get one more yearly update that they took away, I was told by Executive services that there is no record of an Airave update and my phone lost sync with the tower. After explainging that I had no problem outside of airave range they still stuck to their lie as to prevent a lawsuit on the loss of income. That is a bunch of assh&les to me.
It must be mind numbing to park yourself in that Confederacy of Dunces day in and day out. On the flip side I bet dealing with the public likely makes you want to kill yourself some days.
I'm not even asking that the guy on the end of the phone know anything really....I always assumed, based on how many times I get put on hold, that all a CSR needs is enough time and cerebral ability to type my question into the computer and read me back the answer. It's when this process breaks down that I get pissy.
In all fairness to Sprint it's as bad (or good) as any other consumer tech company I deal with regularly. Obviously not all Sprint CSRs are bad apples but why-oh-why does Sprint's ratio of spoiled fruit seem so high?
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The people on the other end of the phone are people to, occasionally it can be hard to remember that when they know less than you do...after all, they supposedly do this for a living day in and day out.
The last time I called Sprint it was to add a Canadian calling plan and to ask what the roaming data rate was while in Canada. Both of these items required an inordinate number of transfers and when transferred the person on the other end of the line was clearly baffled as to why I would have been transferred to them. Both items seemed to be a rather simple request as far as I was concerned considering they were very happy to charge me for these services. I would have been happy to use the Internet to do this but the option was grayed out when I logged into my account and the data rate was posted in 5 different sections of the web site at 5 different amounts.
My Sprint cellular service is good in STL and the price (including discount) is marvelous but boy-oh-boy I don't know how these guys keep the lights on.
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Lol att cell does the same thing when you want to add foreign service plans and are baffled to lol. Att internet customer support are a bunch of retards they don't even know what services they sell. You have to call 5x in order to get the service you already knew you were available to get. All the corporations are just ridiculous. Its not just one its ALL OF THEM.........
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My question is, if we know so much more about these devices than the people they are paying to troubleshoot the devices when we have a problem...why the hell aren't WE the one's working at Sprint??
Well, to answer my own question I guess, I see how ruffled feathers get when a noob wanders in asking dumb questions, how many here would volunteer to deal with nothing but noobs all day long?
Well, to answer my second question- I suppose it is easier dealing with noob 'problems' than tracking down a bug in a kernel or a glitch in a ROM UI, but these are fun activities for most self-taught programmers, as opposed to dealing with someone wondering why their phone 'won't work' (however vague that claim is!) probably drives you up a wall..still, if it paid well..where can I sign up? I need a job...lol
My experience with Sprint CustServ so far has been mixed- mostly because if you can't show someone how your phone is misbehaving, and they aren't smart enough to understand what you are describing- troubleshooting is impeded to say the least. On the whole though, the Epic was more trouble than the reps. I'm on my fourth one..
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Geez, if I had known this would create such a controversy I never would have said anything. I never said that corporate Sprint decisions were good, I never said that I wouldn't like more power to be given to the reps, I only said that we should appreciate those who actually have the capability and training to help out those of us who need it. I know that not everybody is helpful. I also know that if this is how we act on by far one of the nicest XDA sub-forums that exists right now, imagine what these reps must be exposed to every day. If they are less than satisfactory, I wonder how they got that way. It couldn't be years of no appreciation, could it? I never meant to deny the trouble people have had with the support system, but bring some positive to the highly hostile attitude towards Sprint employees. The ones who take the flak aren't the ones who are causing problems. /rant
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Honestly, most of us don't care about your pleasant experience at sprint. The fact remains, the service is mediocre at best and the data is slower than my dead grandmother. Post something most can relate to in the future. Mmmk?
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Honestly, most of us don't care about your pleasant experience at sprint. The fact remains, the service is mediocre at best and the data is slower than my dead grandmother. Post something most can relate to in the future. Mmmk?
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Cool story bro you should tell it agan...
I can't relate to your "mediocre" experience at Sprint. Next time post something I can relate to yeah?
I have to say I have had nothing but good experiences with Sprint Customer Support. (crosses fingers)
A bill issue was resolved fast and easily, and a couple issues with my phones were resolved in a way I was satisfied with.
Given my interactions with Comcast, Verizon, and several other IT companies, I have to give Sprint props, as they were better then all the others, as least in my experience.
As someone that deals with IT calls from irate customers quite often, I feel that a lot of the interactions issue are as much an issue with the customer, as it is with Sprint.
As always... YMMV
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As always... YMMV
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FTW. Sometimes I get so mad at them that I want to cancel my service immediately. Other times, they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Had to go into the store, waited something like 45 minutes for an associate to help get my kids phone changed over. He was very polite and apologetic... then I've had chats where they promised the unwanted service that kept coming back....took three bill cycles to resolve....
Mostly I've had good experiences with them. But I'm low maintenance....
ive got 2 great corp. stores near me. most of the techs and front end people are rooted. i go in there and we talk about rooting, samsung and bada, apple hatred, all that good stuff. mostly nothing but good experiences here. if any one here is having trouble with sprint, try this number. no hold times, a live english speaking person, and typically, they are somewhat experienced.
877-775-4886
account services aka retentions, but they are still more than willing to help.

I Beat AT&T today!!

AT&T started throttling my data this afternoon. I kindy went up to my local AT&T store and asked to be put on the phone with customer service. Their phone was tied up so I just ended up using my cellphone and leaving it on speaker phone to amuse the customers and make the staff look ****ty. The employees thought i had no chance but little did they know I remember my contracts and agreements class from college. I never signed a contract with AT&T since i bought my own phone in and I never upgraded or even bought a phone through them. I explained to the customer rep that I am following the terms of the original plan that was provided to me. I explained to them that as long as I have not put a signature on any sort of agreement altering my account then you guys can't legally alter it without consent from me. They tried to say they could and I told think twice before you make your company look really uneducated. Then I told the lady I would like to speak to your supervisor. Oh i got transferred 12 times until this cocky idiot came on the phone. This guy tried to be a smart one when i was explaining the law to him. He said, "The company doesn't give a damn about a law." Then i said sir your conversation is being recorded on my phone as well as your company phone." He said "excuse me?" I said "you heard me fool. You are being recorded and i got you on speaker phone with about 35 people listening and taking notes." He thought i was lying so me being in the bad mood i was in i gathered 10 people around my phone and let them say something to him. The little girl sad "bad man!" She was so adorable. This elderly lady cancelled her service and told the man to go burn in hell. The rest just laughed. After I the elderly lady left went to the counter the guy was kissing butt for real. He said he will see what he can do for me. I told him I can just send Jim a text. He said Jim who. I said Jim Hood our state attorney general. He put me on hold and 5 minutes later he came back saying that i was correct and your data will be fully restored in 10 minutes. I told him we can wait together then. 5 minutes later i did a speed test and I got 6.8 mbs down and 1.58 mbs up. After that i told him i am glad that this was resolved but I will save the conversation for just encase this happens again. He said have a nice day and thanks for being an at&t customer. I said whatever and hung up. The customers actually clapped and the staff looked like someone died. I'm on cloud 9 at the moment. I think I should have went to law school instead getting into Networking and Computers.
Niceeeee
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I just print screened this original post because I am dying of laughter.
Without going too far in-depth, you were wrong. According to you, you were under no contractual agreements with AT&T, therefore, neither were they. Ergo they can change the terms of service at any point and you can decide to cease payment at any point. Both parties can do these actions sans penalty because, according to you, there are no contracts in effect.
You did not beat AT&T. They just got tired of you, which is okay.
To all others: Do not do this. AT&T will put you on hold and laugh at you. Chances of this working for anyone else are slim.
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I just print screened this original post because I am dying of laughter.
Without going too far in-depth, you were wrong. According to you, you were under no contractual agreements with AT&T, therefore, neither were they. Ergo they can change the terms of service at any point and you can decide to cease payment at any point. Both parties can do these actions sans penalty because, according to you, there are no contracts in effect.
You did not beat AT&T. They just got tired of you, which is okay.
To all others: Do not do this. AT&T will put you on hold and laugh at you. Chances of this working for anyone else are slim.
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Technically I was. They was not providing the service that I was supposed to get according to their terms. It was funny though. Most people who renew their contract actually agree to the shady terms. I was really mad because I didn't get a warning before I got throttled. And I got throttled at 3.022 gb according to the idiot on the phone. I think the rep using profanity in front of a bunch of customers got my data back on track to be honest. I am glad I used my cellphone to be honest. I was sure going to give CNN my conversation for real. I have to thanks the HTC developers for including the call recorder app in their sense roms. I think it is the RCMix rom.
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Technically I was. They was not providing the service that I was supposed to get according to their terms. It was funny though. Most people who renew their contract actually agree to the shady terms. I was really mad because I didn't get a warning before I got throttled. And I got throttled at 3.022 gb according to the idiot on the phone. I think the rep using profanity in front of a bunch of customers got my data back on track to be honest. I am glad I used my cellphone to be honest. I was sure going to give CNN my conversation for real. I have to thanks the HTC developers for including the call recorder app in their sense roms. I think it is the RCMix rom.
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You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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Yes I did. I still have the original brochure from 2006. Those are the terms that are agreed upon. I'm sure it can be googled. The terms of the data back then basically said they can cut you off because overwhelming activity. If I was crazy and used 30gb like some customers then I wouldn't even worry about them cutting me off. They didn't follow their terms and the rep cursed during a service call. What more defense could you provide for AT&T? If you want to get down to the core of throttling it is illegal to throttle unless the service is selected for certain speeds such as what the home internet providers do. I think when some attorney general gets free time on their hands they will go after all of these mobile phone providers and penalize them heavily. Sprint, and T-Mobile are the only smart major national providers so far that are making sure that they avoid trouble in the future by being upfront about their data.
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albo23 said:
You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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The thing you don't understand is that it is classified as a product when their is no contract. The terms is what was written in 2006. A product and a service are 2 different things. That's why you see the terms prepaid service and postpaid service. They don't use product a often any more.
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OH MAN, YES! Dude you Rock! I would have loved to see this.
I love seeing AT&T get kicked in the nuts.
This throttle sh!t p!sses me off. I had a very nice rep use a dead IMEI so he could switch my grandfathered unlimited plan, which now gets throttled at 3GB's, becasue ATT refarmed the extra 2Gigs to Simple Mobile,etc.; put me on the LTE plan so I can get 5GBs which is about what I use. I would have bought an LTE device except we probably wont have LTE for another few years! Not to mention the fact Im using a malyasian Galaxy tab plus 7.0 for voice calls and data, because I dont like being force fed the bloated recycled crap options in their stores.
This is so EPIC WIN. I understand networks are changing and much more data is being used these days, but at least let us original unlmited people use a fair amount..
best read all day!
I would happily settle for a sneaky way to unthrottle oursleves, but they are doing it server side, so I dont think we will have much luck.
I will check with my ex but I'm sure that is the reason why. She is an attorney and she normally helps draw up contracts for local entertainers.
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Check out my thread. I love messing with AT&T!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25834280#post25834280
gasolara2002 said:
Yes I did. I still have the original brochure from 2006. Those are the terms that are agreed upon. I'm sure it can be googled. The terms of the data back then basically said they can cut you off because overwhelming activity. If I was crazy and used 30gb like some customers then I wouldn't even worry about them cutting me off. They didn't follow their terms and the rep cursed during a service call. What more defense could you provide for AT&T? If you want to get down to the core of throttling it is illegal to throttle unless the service is selected for certain speeds such as what the home internet providers do. I think when some attorney general gets free time on their hands they will go after all of these mobile phone providers and penalize them heavily. Sprint, and T-Mobile are the only smart major national providers so far that are making sure that they avoid trouble in the future by being upfront about their data.
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gasolara2002 said:
The thing you don't understand is that it is classified as a product when their is no contract. The terms is what was written in 2006. A product and a service are 2 different things. That's why you see the terms prepaid service and postpaid service. They don't use product a often any more.
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Send me the contract when you have an opportunity. I am NOT distributing legal advice, however, I am speaking from the perspective of an individual who is one term from graduating from a T14 Law School. I am suggesting so as you are misleading individuals.
A SERVICE cannot be classified as a PRODUCT in any legally binding terms or agreements (it can, but is unenforceable). Regardless, that is moot as you hold no legally binding terms nor agreements with AT&T. You are still ignoring my previous comment that AT&T can shut off your service tomorrow because there are no legally binding agreements between the two parties. AT&T can throttle you anytime they would like and you can stop paying them anytime you would like as neither of you are constrained contractually.
Very nice. My mom has them for DSL and now she got a cell phone through them. I don't understand it but they suck. Good work man.
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gasolara2002 said:
AT&T started throttling my data this afternoon. I kindy went up to my local AT&T store and asked to be put on the phone with customer service. Their phone was tied up so I just ended up using my cellphone and leaving it on speaker phone to amuse the customers and make the staff look ****ty. The employees thought i had no chance but little did they know I remember my contracts and agreements class from college. I never signed a contract with AT&T since i bought my own phone in and I never upgraded or even bought a phone through them. I explained to the customer rep that I am following the terms of the original plan that was provided to me. I explained to them that as long as I have not put a signature on any sort of agreement altering my account then you guys can't legally alter it without consent from me. They tried to say they could and I told think twice before you make your company look really uneducated. Then I told the lady I would like to speak to your supervisor. Oh i got transferred 12 times until this cocky idiot came on the phone. This guy tried to be a smart one when i was explaining the law to him. He said, "The company doesn't give a damn about a law." Then i said sir your conversation is being recorded on my phone as well as your company phone." He said "excuse me?" I said "you heard me fool. You are being recorded and i got you on speaker phone with about 35 people listening and taking notes." He thought i was lying so me being in the bad mood i was in i gathered 10 people around my phone and let them say something to him. The little girl sad "bad man!" She was so adorable. This elderly lady cancelled her service and told the man to go burn in hell. The rest just laughed. After I the elderly lady left went to the counter the guy was kissing butt for real. He said he will see what he can do for me. I told him I can just send Jim a text. He said Jim who. I said Jim Hood our state attorney general. He put me on hold and 5 minutes later he came back saying that i was correct and your data will be fully restored in 10 minutes. I told him we can wait together then. 5 minutes later i did a speed test and I got 6.8 mbs down and 1.58 mbs up. After that i told him i am glad that this was resolved but I will save the conversation for just encase this happens again. He said have a nice day and thanks for being an at&t customer. I said whatever and hung up. The customers actually clapped and the staff looked like someone died. I'm on cloud 9 at the moment. I think I should have went to law school instead getting into Networking and Computers.
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It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
luftrofl said:
It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
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Brilliant.
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albo23 said:
Send me the contract when you have an opportunity. I am NOT distributing legal advice, however, I am speaking from the perspective of an individual who is one term from graduating from a T14 Law School. I am suggesting so as you are misleading individuals.
A SERVICE cannot be classified as a PRODUCT in any legally binding terms or agreements (it can, but is unenforceable). Regardless, that is moot as you hold no legally binding terms nor agreements with AT&T. You are still ignoring my previous comment that AT&T can shut off your service tomorrow because there are no legally binding agreements between the two parties. AT&T can throttle you anytime they would like and you can stop paying them anytime you would like as neither of you are constrained contractually.
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I got it. My ex has been an attorney for 4 years so I take what you say with good vision but experience is supreme. I was partially wrong in my argument. According to her the basis of it is consumer protection laws and AT&T's own terms. My plan which is not a contract but it is a post paid plan. Since I have never put a signature to give consent to any changes I am only held accountable for what is on the brochure for 2006. The brochure which you can find online clearly states that the provider can cut my phone off if I abuse the network in anyway. Throttling is not introduced in 2006 buddy. No one can be held accountable for a contract they never seen let alone never signed. AT&T would have to completely shutdown my phone and release me from the usage of their network according to the brochure. It can be found on google if you are looking for it. As far as misleading the community I did explain but I think most of them might understand it now. So I apologize for not clearly explaining why I can't get throttled. If you are upset because you may have gotten messed over by AT&T or you may have a part time job with them then all I can say is get over it. You are the only sore one out of the bunch.
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It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
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Yup because I thought something was wrong until I switched to my inspire then I knew I was throttled. Yes I did go to the retail store because there is an order to do things and I have learned that in order to get your voice heard you have to make them hear you. Call me crazy but I have no time to play phone tag with anyone. You can sit back if you want to and let them control you at will but with me they are going to have to stick with what was on the brochure of plans they printed for customers to stare at.
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9h0s7 said:
Brilliant.
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Thank You buddy
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Verizon I love u so much please just buy out at&t for us. And cool story
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Verizon I love u so much please just buy out at&t for us. And cool story
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I actually wish that could happen. I honestly would be with big red if their network wasn't mainly cdma. The voice coverage is the best in the business.
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gasolara2002 said:
Yup because I thought something was wrong until I switched to my inspire then I knew I was throttled. Yes I did go to the retail store because there is an order to do things and I have learned that in order to get your voice heard you have to make them hear you. Call me crazy but I have no time to play phone tag with anyone. You can sit back if you want to and let them control you at will but with me they are going to have to stick with what was on the brochure of plans they printed for customers to stare at.
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Haha, I don't have AT&T so I wouldn't really know about "letting them control you"

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