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Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible and Evo 4G

Google Exec Hints at Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible, Evo 4G
http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/android_vs_iphone/google_exec_hints_at_why_nexus_one_was_leapfrogged_by_htc_incredible_evo_4g.html
"Nexus One isn't a failure so much as a casualty of the success of the next wave of Android smartphones. In a few months, I'm sure we'll be saying the same things about the Incredible and the Evo 4G."
Some people may be bothered with this, but I am happy with my Nexus One. I have no buyers remorse.

I don't view my N1 as obsolete in any way at all and am quite happy with it, it's no worse than the Incredible and all aspects of the device ooze performance

phones are starting to become like computers now. as soon as you buy one a new and better one comes out tomorrow.
and what sucks about is...you're suck with a 2 year contract.

So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.

I always f*cking hate these posts. I really don't want to hear doom and gloom.

Definitely don't feel any remorse.
My phone is JUST as good as the ones that are coming out NOW.
Yea, 8MP cam + dual flash, but cmon, the pictures are hardly better.
Plus the nexus LOOKS better than both of those.

mortzz said:
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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SERIOUSLY, people are rediculous....... I stayed with DDR400 until DDR32000 came out because it was a serious step up...... There is nothing that screams "OH MY GOD INNOVATION" about either phone..... My next phone will be when my Nexus no longer has the NAND capacity for the current Android version. I love my Nexus

i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1

Uh. What?
Incredible and Evo won't get FroYo until the end of this year.
How about we come back to this article then so we can point and laugh?

Having root >>>> anything else.
Have any high-end phones since the Nexus achieved full root? I mean cracked bootloader and all. Desire, Legend, new Droids - none have the kind of access we do. Heck, we may have the best fully root-able hardware HTC will ever release.

I dont think the Incredible is any better than the N1, i've played witht he incredible and it feels cheap plastic like and the camera sucks as well. I like the feel of the N1 and like the looks of it. The Evo is a whole different story...

timothydonohue said:
i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
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They have "root" meaning they have su permissions. AFAIK they don't have write permissions to the partitions, so it's pretty worthless.

Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
Other than that the idea of having basically a google developement phone surpasses any of the other current phones, maybe when we see a decent hardware upgrade, then it will be a different story, but hopefully Google continues to make new Nexus phones.

FISKER_Q said:
Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg

Paul22000 said:
The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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That is sad. So they have the same MT issue as us, a much smaller dev front, usb-bricking issues while flashing roms, no full solution for being rooted/unlocked...took htc ages to release the kernel...they won't see froyo for ages (officially).
Not much to be ... wait for it... desired

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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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How many points does a Galaxy register again? I'm guessing more than 2

In the UK, the N1/Desire is still the King. Desire = UK incredible, but is LITERALLY an N1, and I doubt we will ever see the Evo here [not even a whisp of 4g network].
Even if they did, all the incredible has is the less buggy touch matrix, although this has been nicely 'fixed' in froyo. The evo is a different breed of phone, id never buy it purely based on the fact that i like thinks to fit in my pocket xD
Until I see a snapgradon 1.3+, 1GB RAM, a TRUE 8mp+ cam, froyo, new gen OLED/better, my N1 can sleep with my girl any day.

that makes two of us i love man I LOVE MY NEXUS ONE

the video is @ livestream.com/disrupt/video?clipId=pla_cfa02640-01dd-4ac5-bba9-a2a2b0feee24

haha my friend was a tad jealous of me. he has the Hero and i like his sense ui. but the minute froyo came out, i installed it. i showed him how i can play hulu, i showed him that i got live wallpapers (of course he doesn't have 2.1) and the rest of the froyo goodness. and outta jealousy, he was like "oh well im gonna get a phone thats better than that. im give to get the Evo 4G that has everything the nexus one has and more, including Android 2.2" and i was like "riiiiight. just like the hero was supposed to (officially) get 2.1 right?" and he stood quiet lol idk about all of you guys but i don't really care for 2 led lights. im good with just one. as for 4G, i like to have the freedom to switch between my N1, my BB Curve 8310, and my iPhone 3GS with the simple swap of a SIM card so im great with my Sexy Nexy

Better than the mytouch 4g?

Just wondering besides the screen and gingerbread what makes this phone better than the mytouch. Just curious as to why so many people want this phone when the mytouch is better in almost evey way. Please no flaming this is a real question as to why people would want this phone instead of a ohone that's already out that's equal if not better.
Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.

Pure Google.
I want my updates in a timely manner, not when tmo/htc/samsung/moto/bob from down the street want to give them out.

sold my i9000 to buy this phone because of pure android! in my opinion hardware doesn't mean anything when your software is bad like it was on my i9000. google will always aim for a good running android on their phones!

jriv said:
Just wondering besides the screen and gingerbread what makes this phone better than the mytouch. Just curious as to why so many people want this phone when the mytouch is better in almost evey way. Please no flaming this is a real question as to why people would want this phone instead of a ohone that's already out that's equal if not better.
Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.
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- Pure Google (stock android)
- All soft keys ( I hate the mytouch keys)
- Google's actual developer phone
- Nexus sounds better than MyTouch

Direct updates and fast updates.
No need to root it to remove unnecessary softwares since it comes with none.
More UMTS bands supported, almost it will work on 3G in the globe, forget about ATT but it supports 2100 and 900. This is a personal reason since I won't use it in the US.
MT4g keys collected so much dust in just few days of using, I think soft keys are more durable when you take this into account.

As others said, it comes down to vanilla Android - my nexus one was one of my favorite phones because it was pure android. When I got the evo and vibrant I kinda twitched when I wasn't on vanilla android (it really is a very different experience).
Not to mention, the vibrant still being on 2.1 is a JOKE (altho I've flashed froyo) - so with the nexus S, having the latest updates and essentially being Google's "test device" is excellent.

Because the MyTouch 4g has a worse processor, a worse GPU, a worse display, a worse touch screen, and well, is ugly. Oh and the Nexus S is AOSP.
Note: "ugly" = personal preference no offense intended

It's rather difficult for me to say.
I have MT4 and the screen is good, plus wifi calling is very handy when I need it.
But NS should have larger and better screen.

Anderdroid said:
Because the MyTouch 4g has a worse processor, a worse GPU, a worse display, a worse touch screen, and well, is ugly. Oh and the Nexus S is AOSP.
Note: "ugly" = personal preference no offense intended
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I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.

dhiral.v said:
I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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Chill out guys... It's phones, phones, phones, phones. No need to get all heated.

Echoing what others have said, but its true. A lot comes down to getting timely updates direct from Google.
I had a Hero before my Nexus One and although the phone was solid, the lack of updates made it a very disappointing experience. Won't do ' non-vanilla' again until manufacturers/carriers prove they will update their phones.

I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.

myTouch 4G is THE phone!! if u have 4G in ur area. Brilliant specs. But I agree its ugliest looking phone ever. But as long u cover it its fine and excellent phone. I wouldnt go for Nexus S if I already had myTouch 4G. Dual Cores are round the corner. But I m fine with the specs of the Nexus S. No 4g here anyways.
PS: Nexus S is gonna be my first native android phone. Woohoo
But I have toyed around most of the android phones of either friends and family

tenbeau said:
I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.
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dude, I had the same exact experience.

Ok, still tossing between the two devices. Biggest reason is the $300 price difference. Both have nice features.
Nexus S:
Love that it will get updates in a timely manner
slimmer, sexier
better screen
No 3g so with this and better screen hopefully better battery life
Larger screen
MT4G:
4G
More hardware buttons
Micro SD card slot, (options)
T-Mobile insurance to cover any time of damage
I've only used the Nexus S for a day so I'm still going to compare and see if its worth paying more for it. Any other key reasons I'm missing? Just trying to get as much information/feedback before making a decision.

If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..
On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO

Mafioso said:
If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..
On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO
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How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.

raeef said:
How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
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He probably meant off CL or something... Im seeing some in my area for about 275-325

dhiral.v said:
I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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Arrogant Samsung fanboy? Everything I said in my reply was true the only thing the MyTouch 4g has on this is removeable storage and HSPA+. Which are 'necessities' at best. If you absolutely need removeable storage or more than 16gb than the Nexus S isn't for you. Other than that, I get the feeling that HTC fanboys down talk Samsung wrongly and uneducatedly so I like to shove it in their faces .
I guess I am an arrogant Samsung fanboy. Or at least, Galaxy S> fanboy. Anything prior to Galaxy S I won't say anything about. The Galaxy S line is 2nd best only to the Nexus S

raeef said:
How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
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Yes even on eBay you get the slightly used ones for ~ $300-350 in bidding..

My upgrade is due today...

I am stuck between the EVO and the Shift.
My wife has the EPIC, which has a really nice GPU, but I refuse to personally own a Samsung phone..
How is the GPU in the EVO Shift?
Is the smaller screen really a draw back?

I came from an Evo to the Shift. Don't want to go back.

Stuke00 said:
I am stuck between the EVO and the Shift.
My wife has the EPIC, which has a really nice GPU, but I refuse to personally own a Samsung phone..
How is the GPU in the EVO Shift?
Is the smaller screen really a draw back?
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It is really a matter of opinion. I had an Epic and I will tell you that there is no other smartphone line on the market that can match the graphics performance of the Hummingbird processor. They won't even come close.
That said, the GPU on the shift is not bad, its just not as good as the one in the SGS line. Personally, I don't play a lot of games on my phone and if I do they are not GPU intensive ones. My wife (she owns the shift and I now have an Evo) plays the sims on her phone and I've never seen it even stutter. I've watched full 1080p avi videos on both phones and never had an issue.
As to the screen, no one can say for you if its an issue. For me, it is. 3.6 is just too small but to my wife its more than enough. My suggestion would be to the sprint store and play with each. If you want the big screen the Evo is great and it has a great development community. If you want the keyboard, even though there doesn't seem to be a lot going on around here there are a lot of great devs would have already switched and are just waiting for permanent root to start releasing some very cool stuff.

For me, I wouldn't get or use my evo without the sprint extended battery for it. That fixes a major evo issue, battery life. It depends on what's most important features on a smartphone. I won't go through all the questions but figure out what you're wanting to do most often and go with the phone which that is it's strongpoints.
None of them do everything well.

I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.

anthonyf27 said:
I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.
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Might I ask why you're waiting for permanent root? You are of course entitled to your own opinion and can make your own decision, I just don't understand your reasoning.

kenvan19 said:
Might I ask why you're waiting for permanent root? You are of course entitled to your own opinion and can make your own decision, I just don't understand your reasoning.
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I agree, that's intriguing. Permanent root will happen, the Shift out of the box will blow your Hero away if you're worried about the bloatware.

I have the phone and I'm waiting for Perma root. In fact, if it's not achieved before my 30 days mark, I might take it back and buy it again once its done.
Use and abuse the 30 days I say. This also might free me up for whatever is being revealed on the 7th, which is one day after my 30 day mark.

Zardos66 said:
I have the phone and I'm waiting for Perma root. In fact, if it's not achieved before my 30 days mark, I might take it back and buy it again once its done.
Use and abuse the 30 days I say. This also might free me up for whatever is being revealed on the 7th, which is on day after my 30 day mark.
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I read something somewhere about what they are revealing but I forgot what it was and where I saw it, lol.

anthonyf27 said:
I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.
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Like you, I'm currently using an HTC Hero (fully rooted, ROM'd, & themed). I'm due for my upgrade next month, but am having difficulty deciding between the Epic & Evo Shift. They both seem to have their strong points, but I'm just torn. I'm thinking I'll "test drive" the Epic (sAMOLED screen really looks nice), and if I don't like it I'll use the 30-day return policy & give the Evo Shift a try.
The biggest complaint I've been reading about the Epic is lack of support. I've figured out that this basically means people are upset that it doesn't have an official Samsung FroYo release yet. Understandable. HTC seems to have gotten better with their updates (my wife has an OG Evo), but I remember a time when we Hero users were very, very upset with HTC/Sprint because we didn't have Eclair for the longest time. Remember that?
Bottom line (for me) is that no phone manufacturer is perfect!

wardfan220 said:
I read something somewhere about what they are revealing but I forgot what it was and where I saw it, lol.
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I've read some speculation about an iPhone 4G, but I don't know if I believe it. I've always felt the iPhone and iOS were overrated - I wouldn't buy one even if Sprint did offer it. Android all the way for me!

tps70 said:
I've read some speculation about an iPhone 4G, but I don't know if I believe it. I've always felt the iPhone and iOS were overrated - I wouldn't buy one even if Sprint did offer it. Android all the way for me!
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I said something about that somewhere, but that's just total speculation on my part, based on VZW getting it. Unless you saw it elsewhere.

tps70 said:
Like you, I'm currently using an HTC Hero (fully rooted, ROM'd, & themed). I'm due for my upgrade next month, but am having difficulty deciding between the Epic & Evo Shift. They both seem to have their strong points, but I'm just torn. I'm thinking I'll "test drive" the Epic (sAMOLED screen really looks nice), and if I don't like it I'll use the 30-day return policy & give the Evo Shift a try.
The biggest complaint I've been reading about the Epic is lack of support. I've figured out that this basically means people are upset that it doesn't have an official Samsung FroYo release yet. Understandable. HTC seems to have gotten better with their updates (my wife has an OG Evo), but I remember a time when we Hero users were very, very upset with HTC/Sprint because we didn't have Eclair for the longest time. Remember that?
Bottom line (for me) is that no phone manufacturer is perfect!
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i had a hero too and i was one of those very upset people who waited forever for the 2.1 update....once it got leaked and i tried it i was so disappointed i finally rooted and never looked back...but i feel like sprint and htc took a lot of crap for that and look what happened with the evo....first carrier phone to get 2.2....so i think they may have learned their lesson so im hopeful updates will be quick for the shift

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I said something about that somewhere, but that's just total speculation on my part, based on VZW getting it. Unless you saw it elsewhere.
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I may have read where you posted it, but I've also seen it a couple other places including androidcentral.com's forums.

StAlphonso said:
i had a hero too and i was one of those very upset people who waited forever for the 2.1 update....once it got leaked and i tried it i was so disappointed i finally rooted and never looked back...but i feel like sprint and htc took a lot of crap for that and look what happened with the evo....first carrier phone to get 2.2....so i think they may have learned their lesson so im hopeful updates will be quick for the shift
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I completely agree! The Eclair update for the Hero was a definite disappointment. I was very apprehensive about rooting (fear of bricking my phone). Once I did it & realized how easy it actually was I kicked my self for not doing it sooner - no more dialer lag!
I hope you're right about HTC and their updates going forward. Maybe the Hero fiasco taught them a valuable lesson - the Evo 2.2 update and subsequent patch (Swype & other software) seems to show they've learned something. If the delay goes on much longer for the Epic users, Samsung may find a lot of people either jumping ship early or just refusing to buy their products in the future.
I know I'll most likely root whatever device I end up with, but I think Samsung's delay with FroYo is my biggest hangup because I don't want to go through it again!

tps70 said:
I completely agree! The Eclair update for the Hero was a definite disappointment. I was very apprehensive about rooting (fear of bricking my phone). Once I did it & realized how easy it actually was I kicked my self for not doing it sooner - no more dialer lag!
I hope you're right about HTC and their updates going forward. Maybe the Hero fiasco taught them a valuable lesson - the Evo 2.2 update and subsequent patch (Swype & other software) seems to show they've learned something. If the delay goes on much longer for the Epic users, Samsung may find a lot of people either jumping ship early or just refusing to buy their products in the future.
I know I'll most likely root whatever device I end up with, but I think Samsung's delay with FroYo is my biggest hangup because I don't want to go through it again!
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Honestly, if you are considering the Epic, don't. Its not worth the money. I bought it at launch and it was the biggest technological mistake I've ever made. I should have gone with my gut and gotten an Evo from the start. If the Epic gets froyo it will be the last update it gets, it will never see gingerbread or anything beyond. They've left the GPS barely functioning for this long and I doubt if they'll ever really care enough to fix it. The upside is you never really have to worry about bricking it because its already a brick.

I have a MacBook and love it. I thought I would like an iPhone but I read stories about the cons of the phone. I feel as if apple heavily censors some apps and deny some really useful apps because maybe they think someone could do something remotely black or grey hattish with it.
A Swiss army knife or leatherman multi tool can be very useful and handy sometimes. You could also use it to cut someone's brake lines or slit their throat. They decide that we aren't responsible enough to have something like that at our disposal. Once again, I digress.

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I have a MacBook and love it. I thought I would like an iPhone but I read stories about the cons of the phone. I feel as if apple heavily censors some apps and deny some really useful apps because maybe they think someone could do something remotely black or grey hattish with it.
A Swiss army knife or leatherman multi tool can be very useful and handy sometimes. You could also use it to cut someone's brake lines or slit their throat. They decide that we aren't responsible enough to have something like that at our disposal. Once again, I digress.
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Digression or not, +1!

kenvan19 said:
Honestly, if you are considering the Epic, don't. Its not worth the money. I bought it at launch and it was the biggest technological mistake I've ever made. I should have gone with my gut and gotten an Evo from the start. If the Epic gets froyo it will be the last update it gets, it will never see gingerbread or anything beyond. They've left the GPS barely functioning for this long and I doubt if they'll ever really care enough to fix it. The upside is you never really have to worry about bricking it because its already a brick.
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I appreciate the input... any input I get to help me decide. I still have a couple weeks to hash it out, so I'm researching & taking all opinions into account. Speaking of opinions... my ex-wife had a Moment which she cursed constantly... what did she "upgrade" to? You probably guessed it... the Epic.
I also plan to spend some more "hands on" time at the Sprint store with both phones.

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I appreciate the input... any input I get to help me decide. I still have a couple weeks to hash it out, so I'm researching & taking all opinions into account. Speaking of opinions... my ex-wife had a Moment which she cursed constantly... what did she "upgrade" to? You probably guessed it... the Epic.
I also plan to spend some more "hands on" time at the Sprint store with both phones.
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I do apologize for my harsh opinion. I felt very burned by Sprint and Samsung based on the fact that the sales rep sold me on the epic based on a claim that there would be 4g in my area within 2 months and that the Epic would have 2.2 in less than a month. However, when I came back to have them check out my wife's instinct the same guy told me that the Epic wouldn't be getting FroYo and as you are aware there is no official Froyo for it nor is there 4G in my area. I bought my wife a Shift because I knew she couldn't handle dealing with the Instinct any longer but I bought it off contract so that when hers is up we can leave Sprint and just pay my ETF. If I could get out of Sprint with just paying one ETF I would do it now.

Are you keeping your Hero?

With the Evo 3D about to land and a couple other pretty good phones on the horizon, most owners are probably about to move to something new or at least i know I am. But I am questioning whether to hang on to the Hero.
With WiFi, I can do a lot of the things I already do and use it more as a MP3 type device and a backup just in case.
So are you going to keep the Hero if and when you upgrade and why?

I plan on keeping the Hero and use it as my MP3 player. I currently have a 8gb sd card and will most likely get a 16 or 32 when I retire my Hero to MP3 duty. Plus with the wifi feature can listen to pandora, lastfm and slacker (plus other radio stations online)
Before I got the Hero I had the HTC Diamond and a local Radio Shack gave me a good deal on a trade in, I wont trade in the Hero because it still has life in it.

Keeping my Hero until it dies!
I am very satisfied with my Hero...especially with Gingerbread goodness courtesy of CM7. While I would like a faster processor, I know taking the leap to the next generation phone will also require that I cough-up another $10/mo for 4G on Sprint.
4G is the last thing I care about, so being forced to partake of that fruit makes me want to hold on to my Hero for as long as possible!
I really resent Sprint and its forced up-sell to 4G...

I like my Hero, it's too slow, though. I'll need something faster soon, probably an evo 3d that I'll root ASAP

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I am very satisfied with my Hero...especially with Gingerbread goodness courtesy of CM7. While I would like a faster processor, I know taking the leap to the next generation phone will also require that I cough-up another $10/mo for 4G on Sprint.
4G is the last thing I care about, so being forced to partake of that fruit makes me want to hold on to my Hero for as long as possible!
I really resent Sprint and its forced up-sell to 4G...
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Every smartphone adds a $10/mo charge now, not just 4G ones.

Constipator said:
I like my Hero, it's too slow, though. I'll need something faster soon, probably an evo 3d that I'll root ASAP
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I would wait until you see in the EVO 3D forums "Permanent Root" because HTC is shipping their phones with encrypted boot loaders now. If you really need root then Nexus S or OG EVO + Shift are the way to go for now.

fpineda101 said:
I would wait until you see in the EVO 3D forums "Permanent Root" because HTC is shipping their phones with encrypted boot loaders now. If you really need root then Nexus S or OG EVO + Shift are the way to go for now.
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What? When did this happen?

It's pretty much all that has been talked about today based on this http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
If you want to see some real hate just go look at there facebook page facebook.com/htc people are letting them have it

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It's pretty much all that has been talked about today based on this http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...r-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
If you want to see some real hate just go look at there facebook page facebook.com/htc people are letting them have it
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There have been so many comments that HTC finally had to say something. If they decide to unlock the bootloader, they may have to delay the release date

Well, regardless of how the 3D lockdown plays out, I'll probably be hangin with the Hero for quite some time. Mostly budget oriented reasons. Even my cars I buy used and drive 'em to death, and they don't get nifty upgrades provided by a community of cutting edge mechanics..

If it can't be modded, I'll be.switching over to the Nexus. And as for my Hero, I'll donate it to a local person who is less fortunate than me who can't get a good phone.

I was going to get the 3D, but after learning the bootloader will be locked I am hesitant on getting it. Howeverm HTC said they would look into locking evrything down. It appears that 1000's if not 10.000's of people would not get the phone if it is locked. So now it's just a waiting game, but either way I should be updating my phone and I plan on keeping my Hero, flashing it over to Metro and giving it to my son.

I don't understand why they would want to lock the bootloader on their phone. Once I buy that phone, they've made their money. They shouldn't give a damn about what I do with it or what I put on it.
If I void my warranty doing it, then that's even better for them! Now they don't have to replace the brick or service it at all AND they keep my money! It's win-win!

My heroc does everything I need a phone to do and more, definitely keeping it..

If you want to boycott HTC but still want Sense, get a Nexus S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034130
Its for GSM but the CDMA version is on its way

I need a backup and waiting on getting an evo 3d. So ya

I'll be getting the EVO 3D, but I'll keep my Hero for various other purposes as well.

[Q] What phone are you looking forward to getting next?

I was planning on getting the Galaxy Nexus once it becomes available on Sprint, but after realizing it has no SD slot I've changed my mind. For some that may not be an issue, but I like using my phone as a MP3 player and really don't want to purchase a separate device for that. The Galaxy Note looks promising, but that could be even further down the road and it is a little too big for my tastes. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Since I am not getting a new phone until July, the phone I am getting isn't out yet. If no keyboard quad core LTE is in the pike then the Galaxy Journal is looking good.

Well...considering how horrible my credit score is .... and sprint is the only company that will even CONSIDER re-newing my contact, ill probably be going with EVO 3D or Galaxy S2. I am proud to say I STILL have never owned an iphone and dont plan on doing so any time soon.
However, I must say CM9 has opened my epic up to a whole new world of pant creamage, so i'll probably be sticking with my epic for awhile.

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Well...considering how horrible my credit score is .... and sprint is the only company that will even CONSIDER re-newing my contact, ill probably be going with EVO 3D or Galaxy S2. I am proud to say I STILL have never owned an iphone and dont plan on doing so any time soon.
However, I must say CM9 has opened my epic up to a whole new world of pant creamage, so i'll probably be sticking with my epic for awhile.
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I hear you. CM9 has definitely brought new life to my Epic. I may just be considering a new phone just for the sake of having something new and shiny, but as it stands now my Epic does everything I need it to so maybe I'll stick with it for a while.

That Galaxy Note/Journal is calling out to me
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Galaxy S3; course I'm extatic with CM9 (and its only ALPHA... <does roscoe p. coltrane laugh>)
you youngs can google dat sh!t

RealTic said:
Well...considering how horrible my credit score is .... and sprint is the only company that will even CONSIDER re-newing my contact, ill probably be going with EVO 3D or Galaxy S2. I am proud to say I STILL have never owned an iphone and dont plan on doing so any time soon.
However, I must say CM9 has opened my epic up to a whole new world of pant creamage, so i'll probably be sticking with my epic for awhile.
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I have myself an Epic and I I am quite content with it in it's rooted state. I would imagine the S2 rooted would make for a beast of a phone. Everyone is always looking to get the next best thing, but realistically how powerful does your phone really need to be?

RealTic said:
Well...considering how horrible my credit score is .... and sprint is the only company that will even CONSIDER re-newing my contact, ill probably be going with EVO 3D or Galaxy S2. I am proud to say I STILL have never owned an iphone and dont plan on doing so any time soon.
However, I must say CM9 has opened my epic up to a whole new world of pant creamage, so i'll probably be sticking with my epic for awhile.
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I agree, it's already like a brand new phone. Although, I've never quite liked how bulky the phone is, especially with a case on it. The epic 4g touch is a pretty sexy phone to hold on to. But I don't see myself changing phones anytime soon with CM9 as good as it is, and keeps getting better.

I really want the Galaxy Nexus but I am happy with my Epic for now. Depending on if I get a decent job after I graduate in may and if the company has good phone discounts ill probably try to get one on sprint. If not ill probably try to buy one with a bad esn and flash to virgin mobile. I don't have to have 4g and could definitely live without it for $25 a month.

my upgrade isn't until august, although at the moment i plan to get the galaxy nexus.
But there is a lot of time left for me to change my mind.

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I was planning on getting the Galaxy Nexus once it becomes available on Sprint, but after realizing it has no SD slot I've changed my mind. For some that may not be an issue, but I like using my phone as a MP3 player and really don't want to purchase a separate device for that. The Galaxy Note looks promising, but that could be even further down the road and it is a little too big for my tastes. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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Get the Audio Galaxy app free from the market, and you never have to put mp3s on your phone again. As long as your computer is on, you just stream them right to your phone from your computer's hard drive where ever you go.
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With all the recent goodies we have received for our EPIC4G , I'm waiting until later in the year when something REALLY better comes around ( even though I am already eligible for an upgrade on one of my lines )

Something with LTE
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Nothing. There is not a single phone on the market or even in the pipeline that I am aware of that I look forward to purchasing to replace my Epic. Except maybe another Epic if this one breaks. My next phone MUST have a physical slide-out keyboard, as well as LTE, multi-core, and unlocked bootloader. I will ditch Sprint for Verizon if I have to, but even the Droid 4 fails to meet my requirements because Motorola has their head up their *** and locks the bootloader on everything. I am very disappointed but hopefully Samsung or HTC will surprise me with a qwerty superphone. Otherwise the Epic will be my phone of choice for the next few years.

I'm actually still pretty happy with my phone as others are here, but I will actually NOT be getting a physical keyboard on my next phone. I thought it was a necessity, but I have fallen in love with SwiftKey, and I don't see a need for a physical keyboard anymore.
I would much rather have a slimmer form factor. However I'm guessing the only requirement my next phone will have is LTE.

My contract is already up and i was planning on getting the Galaxy Nexus when it came out for Sprint, but that was before our awesome devs managed to get CM9 on our epics. Now i am patiently waiting for the next nexus phone
CM9 really did bring new life to the Epic, Im completely satisfied with it now.

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I'm actually still pretty happy with my phone as others are here, but I will actually NOT be getting a physical keyboard on my next phone. I thought it was a necessity, but I have fallen in love with SwiftKey, and I don't see a need for a physical keyboard anymore.
I would much rather have a slimmer form factor. However I'm guessing the only requirement my next phone will have is LTE.
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I actually dislike slimmer phones. They don't feel right in my hand and are usually slippery also. I always cringe when the phone slips out of my hand and smashes open on the concrete. I think the Epic with a standard battery is already slim and light enough and I wouldn't want anything slimmer. I would MUCH prefer the heavy metallic feel of an HTC phone (like the G2), but HTC doesn't make any decent qwerty phones like that anymore.

I agree with most of you guys, as long as we keep getting CM9 updates I have no problem sticking with the epic for another year.

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I hear you. CM9 has definitely brought new life to my Epic. I may just be considering a new phone just for the sake of having something new and shiny, but as it stands now my Epic does everything I need it to so maybe I'll stick with it for a while.
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^^QFT
spainlinx0 said:
I'm actually still pretty happy with my phone as others are here, but I will actually NOT be getting a physical keyboard on my next phone. I thought it was a necessity, but I have fallen in love with SwiftKey, and I don't see a need for a physical keyboard anymore.
I would much rather have a slimmer form factor. However I'm guessing the only requirement my next phone will have is LTE.
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I've had an upgrade for a little over a year now, on my line. Haven't moved from the Epic as nothing has really offered a significant upgrade. My next phone? LTE without question (but it needs to be in Chicago as the 3G speeds here are atrocious), made by either Samsung or HTC, though I'd have a tough time moving from Samsung. Outside of that, no real requirements. I'd like 2GB of RAM, but that might be 2013, who knows. I think unlocked bootloader goes without question as there is no way I could go stock anything after having an Epic...

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Get the Audio Galaxy app free from the market, and you never have to put mp3s on your phone again. As long as your computer is on, you just stream them right to your phone from your computer's hard drive where ever you go.
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That's great and all, but doesn't help when I'm not in good service areas. In my line of work, I'm in very spotty areas all the time and I need my phone's network to not be cluttered up so I can receive business calls/txts reliably.