HTC Sense makes me want to die. Please help. - HD2 General

Hey, all. Long-time flasher, first(ish)-time poster. I think HTC Sense does a great deal of covering up for Windows Mobile, which is great... if you hate Windows Mobile. I don't. I love it. And that's all I want.
Right now I'm using Kumar's ROM on my HD2... hats off to all involved, by the way... but it's still not exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't exist. I don't know. I'll get to the point.
Here's what I'm after: a stock Windows Mobile 6.5.3 ROM. I don't want any of the HTC Sense bull**** on there. Not Sense, not HTC's SMS/MMS app, none of it. I want strictly Windows Mobile. Does something like this exist already, and I'm just retarded/overlooking it?
Thanks in advance for any help here, all.
--Rob

mcdonnr said:
Hey, all. Long-time flasher, first(ish)-time poster. I think HTC Sense does a great deal of covering up for Windows Mobile, which is great... if you hate Windows Mobile. I don't. I love it. And that's all I want.
Right now I'm using Kumar's ROM on my HD2... hats off to all involved, by the way... but it's still not exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't exist. I don't know. I'll get to the point.
Here's what I'm after: a stock Windows Mobile 6.5.3 ROM. I don't want any of the HTC Sense bull**** on there. Not Sense, not HTC's SMS/MMS app, none of it. I want strictly Windows Mobile. Does something like this exist already, and I'm just retarded/overlooking it?
Thanks in advance for any help here, all.
--Rob
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I was working on a ROM like that, but in the end decided it was easier to just take Kumar's ROM, and turn off Sense/HTC Messaging.
start->settings->home->Items, disable Sense, enable Windows Default

Ok... disabling Sense on the home screen is easy enough, that I've already done. The real thing I'm after is disabling their messaging client. It hurts to use, I die a little inside every time I'm forced to interact with it. How do you disable that?

mcdonnr said:
Ok... disabling Sense on the home screen is easy enough, that I've already done. The real thing I'm after is disabling their messaging client. It hurts to use, I die a little inside every time I'm forced to interact with it. How do you disable that?
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Try this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
Also, Kumar is working on a Titanium ROM without the HTC Sense apps (especially messaging). Or, you can try SPB Mobile Shell to see if that suits you, though it is a commercial product.

THANK YOU!
Holy Hell... you have no idea how good it feels to use the stock WinMo SMS/MMS app. Well, maybe you do. Either way, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks again, man... and I will definitely keep an eye out for Kumar's Titanium ROM.
--Rob

mcdonnr said:
THANK YOU!
Holy Hell... you have no idea how good it feels to use the stock WinMo SMS/MMS app. Well, maybe you do. Either way, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks again, man... and I will definitely keep an eye out for Kumar's Titanium ROM.
--Rob
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No problem. Hope it helps. I know it makes a difference for me. But I'm not a heavy texter to begin with anyway.

EnergyRom
NRGZ28 has a Titanium only rom with the HTC messaging already disabled by default. I would give that a look too

Oh brilliant, was hoping there'd be Titanium-only HD2 ROMs - I've got a TMoUS HD2 en-route at the moment, and although I've only played with M2D, I've never understood the fascination with TouchFlo. It's pretty, to be sure, but so memory-hungry and annoying to use. Although I suppose RAM-hogging won't be a factor when the HD2 has so much to spare, heh.
Link to HD2 EnergyROM w/Titanium-only version for anyone still looking.
Say, can anyone who loves Sense UI explain why? I'm just curious, having had bad experiences myself.

onslaught86 said:
Oh brilliant, was hoping there'd be Titanium-only HD2 ROMs - I've got a TMoUS HD2 en-route at the moment, and although I've only played with M2D, I've never understood the fascination with TouchFlo. It's pretty, to be sure, but so memory-hungry and annoying to use. Although I suppose RAM-hogging won't be a factor when the HD2 has so much to spare, heh.
Link to HD2 EnergyROM w/Titanium-only version for anyone still looking.
Say, can anyone who loves Sense UI explain why? I'm just curious, having had bad experiences myself.
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I love and hate sense.
As you can see from my signature, I use NRG's titanium ROMs on my TP2, because I get fed up of it, and it always feels slow.
The reason I loved it was the integration of everything in a today screen, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, all in one, along with weather, stocks and everything else I do daily .
Dave

For those who are interested, An updated Titanium ROM for TMOUS (Based on 23563) will be up before this weekend.

DaveShaw said:
I love and hate sense.
As you can see from my signature, I use NRG's titanium ROMs on my TP2, because I get fed up of it, and it always feels slow.
The reason I loved it was the integration of everything in a today screen, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, all in one, along with weather, stocks and everything else I do daily .
Dave
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why not try my tp2 rom dude!! i dare you, you might not go back.

mcdonnr said:
Hey, all. Long-time flasher, first(ish)-time poster. I think HTC Sense does a great deal of covering up for Windows Mobile, which is great... if you hate Windows Mobile. I don't. I love it. And that's all I want.
Right now I'm using Kumar's ROM on my HD2... hats off to all involved, by the way... but it's still not exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't exist. I don't know. I'll get to the point.
Here's what I'm after: a stock Windows Mobile 6.5.3 ROM. I don't want any of the HTC Sense bull**** on there. Not Sense, not HTC's SMS/MMS app, none of it. I want strictly Windows Mobile. Does something like this exist already, and I'm just retarded/overlooking it?
Thanks in advance for any help here, all.
--Rob
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you might be the only person ALIVE that prefers default winmo to htc's sense version. its the only reason WHY im getting this phone.

oshizzle1991 said:
you might be the only person ALIVE that prefers default winmo to htc's sense version. its the only reason WHY im getting this phone.
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Not true at all. I'm not a big fan of sense. It's way more buggy than a lot of other great shells or ui's. I'm gonna start using SPB Mobile shell now that I've used sense for a few weeks to see if I grew to like it. I didn't.
Can't wait for schaps to release TouchXperience. That looks great.

zarathustrax said:
Not true at all. I'm not a big fan of sense. It's way more buggy than a lot of other great shells or ui's. I'm gonna start using SPB Mobile shell now that I've used sense for a few weeks to see if I grew to like it. I didn't.
Can't wait for schaps to release TouchXperience. That looks great.
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U r so RIGHT ABOUT THAT!! That looks revolutionary

oshizzle1991 said:
you might be the only person ALIVE that prefers default winmo to htc's sense version. its the only reason WHY im getting this phone.
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Quite a few people have posted requesting Titanium-only ROMs, thats why several ROM chefs have started making them.
More people still prefer Sense, but there are plenty that do not.

Having actually gotten hold of said HD2 now, I'm really beginning to dig the Sense UI. It takes a bit of getting used to, and I think I'll be hunting for a ROM that has Titanium as well, in case I feel like switching between the two. The major advantages of Titanium are its low memory footprint, nifty clean look (Sense is not so clean, but it looks boring when it is) and having everything on a single screen, while having all the key information visible at a glance - the comm manager panel was the single most important app I had installed. But Sense does all of this too, with a few tweaks and some specific quick links. Although I'd really prefer to have comm manager status/links to favourite people/currently-playing music/new texts/new email/home tab visible all at the same time, I'm pretty sure I can deal with swiping to the left to get to Twitter, heh.
Funnily enough, my friends' reaction upon seeing Sense UI is "WOW, is that Android?"

I've built a rom with chuckys tools 23563 if you wanna try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618787
i forgot to take out the htc dialler and that interferes with the reminder notification snoozing(gives you a choice of 5/10/15mins etc) so you might wanna google htc dialler disabler aswell.
Be aware i stripped out a lot of stuff with this so no opera or anything, i found it easier to try newer versions etc that way....

I feel you
Your post pushed me to find a way to do exactly what you're talking about. I love Titanium, and despise HTC Messaging.
I installed the Energy ROM ("standard" Sense build 23566) and it's perfect. Once you disable Sense you're good to go. HTC Messaging is not included! Fast, stable, and includes only minimal extra software. The default Start menu arrangement is excellent.
Cheers,
Rob
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654504

zarathustrax said:
Can't wait for schaps to release TouchXperience. That looks great.
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Schaps is still releasing TouchXperience???? When I started on this forum in 2007....I couldn't wait for Schaps to release that.....then for personal reasons, he was gone. I'm hoping you are saying he is going to release his 'latest' version....because if he still hasn't released his first version...yet...you may want to keep looking. I've always found his work very good....but the drama very high.

have you even heard of the home screen customizer?
it pretty much saves winmo6.5.
go into the Marketplace on your phone, and just search "home screen customizer".
it's amazing, hardly anyone finds it.

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Does anyone plan on making new roms and themes for hero

Does anyone plan on making new roms and themes for the hero i dont really like the look on the stock rom i have MoDaCo and it looks the same as stock like the g1 they have alot of nice roms and stuff will we ever have roms like that?
thorracing1 said:
Does anyone plan on making new roms and themes for the hero i dont really like the look on the stock rom i have MoDaCo and it looks the same as stock like the g1 they have alot of nice roms and stuff will we ever have roms like that?
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I'm currently back on the HTC ROM but I would assume you can still run any of the home replacements from the market (or just the default android one) on MoDaCo.
do you know any good ones?
thorracing1 said:
do you know any good ones?
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It's really a preference thing, there's no harm in installing any one of them and seeing if you like'em. Sense really is the better fit for me.
Some of the major ones are:
- OpenHome
- aHome
-dxTop
- PandaHome
...that's just off the top of my head some of the ones I've tried. They each have some cool and unique things about them.
Once i figure what can me skinned and how i will be making themes. Not sure if i will post any, as i must have made at least 100 themes for S2U2 for personal use when i had my WinMo phones. If i did do one to post it would more than likely be a Danbo (Danboard) theme.
I just discovered that little guy and i already outfitted my chompSMS with several wallpapers of him.
thecodemonk said:
It's really a preference thing, there's no harm in installing any one of them and seeing if you like'em. Sense really is the better fit for me.
Some of the major ones are:
- OpenHome
- aHome
-dxTop
- PandaHome
...that's just off the top of my head some of the ones I've tried. They each have some cool and unique things about them.
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aHome Lite made my Hero so laggy i could hardly use it. It took me like 10 minutes just to get it uninstalled.
Also, when i was searching for OpenHome i couldnt find the actual program, only themes. Anyone know the official app name?
lol if you figure out how to make a theme you should defiently make me one
Negrito said:
aHome Lite made my Hero so laggy i could hardly use it. It took me like 10 minutes just to get it uninstalled.
Also, when i was searching for OpenHome i couldnt find the actual program, only themes. Anyone know the official app name?
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I didn't have much trouble with aHome, odd.
Any home replacement will be difficult to find on the market if there's a bunch of themes with the name in it sadly.
I almost forgot a few more too:
- Freshface
- GDE (though I don't know if this one is out yet)
As for OpenHome, fire up that barcode scanner and go here:
http://www.androidtapp.com/open-home/ It has QR codes to scan and will take you straight to the market app.
which one do you think looks the best? and is the fastest
Negrito said:
Once i figure what can me skinned and how i will be making themes. Not sure if i will post any, as i must have made at least 100 themes for S2U2 for personal use when i had my WinMo phones...
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I thought I recognized you from PPCG!
I used to have a Diamond and even made a few ROMs using some of the great kitchens available. It would be awesome if there were some kind of kitchen for the Hero. Hell, I might even give it a try then...just don't tell my wife, she thinks I quit cooking.
lol you got the hero too?
watzone69 said:
I thought I recognized you from PPCG!
I used to have a Diamond and even made a few ROMs using some of the great kitchens available. It would be awesome if there were some kind of kitchen for the Hero. Hell, I might even give it a try then...just don't tell my wife, she thinks I quit cooking.
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There is a kitchen, its called Android SDK and you can use it with eclipse. all you need to do is go grab the source from htc and compile it the way you want to and load it up with eclipse. or the android emulator. there is other steps but thats what google is for. i am working on my own rom right now. cant wait till its done. i am wondering how fast a bone stock rom would run.
I would be ur number one fan for a bone stock Android with hero support. I'd even go as far as to say it would be the base most custom roms are based off of.
I'm not a programmer but if u go through with this is there any way to twist cryogen's work into it? He gets great reviews and the update utility is pretty pimp
thecodemonk said:
I didn't have much trouble with aHome, odd.
Any home replacement will be difficult to find on the market if there's a bunch of themes with the name in it sadly.
I almost forgot a few more too:
- Freshface
- GDE (though I don't know if this one is out yet)
As for OpenHome, fire up that barcode scanner and go here:
http://www.androidtapp.com/open-home/ It has QR codes to scan and will take you straight to the market app.
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Awesome, thanks for the link.
watzone69 said:
I thought I recognized you from PPCG!
I used to have a Diamond and even made a few ROMs using some of the great kitchens available. It would be awesome if there were some kind of kitchen for the Hero. Hell, I might even give it a try then...just don't tell my wife, she thinks I quit cooking.
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Yep, they banned me over something dumb, and i didnt feel like fighting them, plus since i have a Hero now they are useless.
can someone tell me how to make roms and stuff like that for the hero maybe a guide or video on it? thanks
thorracing1 said:
lol you got the hero too?
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Yep! I made a deal with my wife that I wouldn't spend all my time hacking a phone with Android on it (I know, I'm going to hell for that lie).
cteneyck said:
There is a kitchen, its called Android SDK and you can use it with eclipse. all you need to do is go grab the source from htc and compile it the way you want to and load it up with eclipse. or the android emulator. there is other steps but thats what google is for. i am working on my own rom right now. cant wait till its done. i am wondering how fast a bone stock rom would run.
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Good to know! I'll check it out. I've got quite a bit of catching up to do. Looking forward to your ROM as well.
Negrito said:
Yep, they banned me over something dumb, and i didnt feel like fighting them, plus since i have a Hero now they are useless.
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LOL! I sort-of banned myself. The Hero forum there is pretty lame. I still have friends there and at EDTP but I don't spend much time there anymore.
Alright!

i ave a nexus one, and jsut got a good deal on a HD2..convice me...

to keep the hd2. i have not had the hd2 for like 2 months, has alot changed? roms? windows mobile?
whats the news on getting windows mo 7 or an android port to the HD2?
also...is there any way to make Sense like my androind sense regarding widgets, twitter etc...
thanks...i have so missed my hd2 screen size....
Whether WP7 or Android will come to HD2 is still unknown. Sure, everyone will say it's only a matter of time, but I'll be straight with you and tell you it's as good as a 50/50 chance.
Having said that, it's a phone. Keep it or sell it. It's your call.
get the hd2. in a review online by a dignified tech website hd2 spanks the nexus one
Shall I pick your clothes out for tomorrow as well?
dvigue said:
to keep the hd2. i have not had the hd2 for like 2 months, has alot changed? roms? windows mobile?
whats the news on getting windows mo 7 or an android port to the HD2?
also...is there any way to make Sense like my androind sense regarding widgets, twitter etc...
thanks...i have so missed my hd2 screen size....
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Did you install cookies home tab and editor? If not, you should try that. makes as many quick links as you want. Very Android/Iphonish. Works awesome... Also the new ROM with the Zim touch sensitivity fix makes it pretty rad.
If you want a real man's phone get the HD2...lolol
All joke's aside, it's really a matter of personal opinion: the HD2 uses WinMo, and with the latest ROM versions out there things run pretty smooth.
But if you want Android, then keep the Nexus. In the end, the basic features are the same, it's all about what feels right for you. (God I sound like a hippie...jk lol.)
~Jasecloud4
yeah, i wiped and installed the elagence rom. i love it..i am just trying to find a way to use my google voice account to get my free texting..wish there was a GV app for this
crisisinthecity said:
Did you install cookies home tab and editor? If not, you should try that. makes as many quick links as you want. Very Android/Iphonish. Works awesome... Also the new ROM with the Zim touch sensitivity fix makes it pretty rad.
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I just installed Cookie's stuff. Now my battery seems to go quicker. Is it Cooke's cab or my imagination?
OP: Get the HD2
i really am liking the HD2 again..jsut wish it was as smooth as the android..i pray for an android port soon..
dvigue said:
i really am liking the HD2 again..jsut wish it was as smooth as the android..i pray for an android port soon..
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SMOOTH???? as Android ive had android phones before and the have the flaws as well like force closes and sh** like that and as far as smoothness I think my HD2 is waaaayyyyy smoother then android im running the MAY 31 ENERGY ROM and its smooth like a hot knife threw butter trust me get the right ROM and you will never go back to android.
PoisonWolf said:
Having said that, it's a phone. Keep it or sell it. It's your call.
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lol. funny. no pun intended.
Atxdrift said:
SMOOTH???? as Android ive had android phones before and the have the flaws as well like force closes and sh** like that and as far as smoothness I think my HD2 is waaaayyyyy smoother then android im running the MAY 31 ENERGY ROM and its smooth like a hot knife threw butter trust me get the right ROM and you will never go back to android.
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Very true...i have had lock ups also...
I am going to try the latest energy rom now. any tweaks that you would recommend i must do right after?
also..how can i get the original white flip clock with weather on that rom???
From my Personal Experience, i had a nexus one Which i sold and later bought the HD2, i have applied almost every rom available and text messaging lags a lot, also Stock rom is too slow and other roms are smooth and fast but out of the nowhere freeze and give me major problems.
it has better hardware than the nexus but to tel you the thruth, the nexus one with stock everything is so much faster than the HD2, all i can say is try it for yourself, im however swicthing back to the nexus or mytouch slide, because even my g1 was a lot faster than this phone with much less hardware, and i am not joking neither do i mean to say windows mobile sucks, but it is just for me.
if i get flamed, too bad!
Atxdrift said:
SMOOTH???? as Android ive had android phones before and the have the flaws as well like force closes and sh** like that and as far as smoothness I think my HD2 is waaaayyyyy smoother then android im running the MAY 31 ENERGY ROM and its smooth like a hot knife threw butter trust me get the right ROM and you will never go back to android.
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i dont see a may 31? only a may 28th?
dvigue said:
i dont see a may 31? only a may 28th?
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forget it..i got it ..i jsut installed it..ill check it out
get the Nexus. I traded my HD2 for one and love it.
Android is so much faster and is so much easier to use than WinMo.
That being said, if you need it for business, go with the HD2.
I had a Nexus 1 for 2 months then sold it and bought my HD2, I love them both, the Nexus 1 is more like an iPhone as far as user friendly. Win Mobile is harder to set up and change but much more powerful. I've contemplated getting another Nexus 1 but the HD2 hardware is so damn sweet, I think I'm staying with the HD2 now and waiting for the HD3 or something else.
Here is the link that i use
dvigue said:
i dont see a may 31? only a may 28th?
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HERE IS THE LINK ITS BY FAR THE BEST. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF IT.
http://hotfile.com/dl/45720124/10306e6/Energy.Leo.21905.Sense2.5.Cookie.Dinik.Glass.May.31.7z.html
hiddengopher said:
get the Nexus. I traded my HD2 for one and love it.
Android is so much faster and is so much easier to use than WinMo.
That being said, if you need it for business, go with the HD2.
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From my exp. Using the Energy ROM to its fullest it is way faster then the Nexus and Energy is way faster then a stock HD2 ROM.
dvigue said:
forget it..i got it ..i jsut installed it..ill check it out
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Sorry about that but here is the ROM im using if anyone wants to try it. From all the Energy ROMS I have used this set is by far the best...

Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.
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you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
crx4xharder said:
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.
I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^
Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.
I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!
Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?
Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

[Q] CRAZY idea, but I want it!

Hey all!
Is it at ALL possible to either flash the ROM from the Touch Pro II or find a way to install Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1 onto the HTC HD2? I NEED stability in my ROM and this is what I really want to try.
I know I've been asking a lot of questions on this site regarding this phone, but I want you all to know I truly value your answers and your help.
Thank you guys!
Well have you tried the ROMs that are known to be stable? Theres quite a few..
Also maybe try titanium (windows default) if you're looking for simple, basic stability.
I have. I've tried four or five and they just get to be too slow. I like the Windows Mobile 6.5.5 builds but they just get to be laggy at times, and for a phone with a 1GHz processor I'd expect a whole lot more.
I don't know, I was just wondering what 6.0 or 6.1 would operate like on the HD2. That or find SOMETHING that's very quick and very stable.
Try Dutty's cdlc or UnOff.. What are you using the phone for? (work, eye-candy, both?)
I'm not sure about 6.1, can't see why anyone would want that on this device.
BTW, nice location just a few miles away from me..
Oh WOW! You ARE close to me! Haha, 253! Neat
I really want to use it for multimedia and texting first and foremost. After that I really just want to use it for internet browsing and photo uploading. Well, MMS capabilities are a must too.
After messing around with the ROMs I did, I jusst started to panic about making the wrong choice on the phone. I had hoped I didn't, however I want to take FULL advantage of the processor speed and the RAM. Definitely. Problem is, nothing works! AGH!
I'm currently using UnOff... and texting is still god-awful.
Have you tried Swype? Its a dream to work with once you get to know it. In fact, the reccord for txting was recently broken with Swype! I use Energy rom (The "unstable" 6.5.5 ver) and I do need to reboot the phone about once a week, but thats still a LOT less then my 6.1 Tilt. You really REALLY dont want to go back too 6.1, trust me. The OS does not have a lot of features needed for good use of the hardware in the HD2.
P.S. Woodinville and work in Redmond. Seattlites stick togeather!
BurningPhoenix85 said:
I have. I've tried four or five and they just get to be too slow. I like the Windows Mobile 6.5.5 builds but they just get to be laggy at times, and for a phone with a 1GHz processor I'd expect a whole lot more.
I don't know, I was just wondering what 6.0 or 6.1 would operate like on the HD2. That or find SOMETHING that's very quick and very stable.
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i had the same issue, i even started a thread about it. i just flashed UNOFF and it is a lightning fast dream.
website for UNOFF: http://www.xperia-unoff.com/htc-hd2-rom-development/
my thread: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765918
highly recommended.
jason
jason370 said:
i had the same issue, i even started a thread about it. i just flashed UNOFF and it is a lightning fast dream.
website for UNOFF: http://www.xperia-unoff.com/htc-hd2-rom-development/
my thread: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765918
highly recommended.
jason
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Yeah UnOff is a good ROM, you could also try Laurentius26ROMs
SUP SUP WASHINGTONIANS!
Anyways, try the Omega XT Roms, indie updates them constantly and they are pretty good.
Oh wow, look at all of us Washingtonians here! WOW!
I'll try the UnOFF ROM again, or even an Energy ROM. I just want this to work and I'm sure you all understand why
Thank you guys for all your help! I'll let you all know what happens.
I would suggest either the Miri 17.6 rom which is very stable and fast and has great eye candy or VBN rom series. I currently running VBN and it's great. Very stable, no crashes, fast. I think you would like either one of them. They are both located on the Euro HD2 rom side, not the TMOUS HD2. Both are compatible with 576 ram and 1gig storage. Check them out.
try kwbr Roms ... I am on 4.0.1 version
Stock like ROMs
CruzerHD rom
What you are looking for is the CruzerHD rom my friend. Super fast, stable, and very very slim on memory (only 35mb used after flash).
Rom is not about eye candy but about speed/performance. You add what you want yourself.
CruzerHD premium rom v.9
Wow, guys, it looks like I have quite a bit of ROMs to try out! I really appreciate your time, y'all rock it!
try kwbr at htpedia.com
com2 version 21914 htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1692&page=102
I've tried them ALL! THIS ONE IS STABLE. period.
wow! there are a lot of washingtonians here! my mom and sister were born in WA, and i lived in Lacey for most of my grade school years. I almost became a Husky but decided i'd rather do grad school there and hopefully work for MS someday... Thats the dream anyways...
But, back on topic. I dont believe 6.0/1 is possible because the HD2's HAL is not compatible with with any 6.0 devices. basically, you'd have to re-write all the drivers in the Hardware Abstraction Layer so that they can talk with the 6.0 ROM. its the same reason WinPhone7 will probably never make it to our phones. ya see, there are no "generic" drivers for phones. thats why only phone with similar hardware can share ROMs.
i say use kumars ROM. its my personal fav
Man I know how OP feels, I was looking for a ROM & flashed Energy & it works like a dream! But now that I have Froyo 2.2 on here I hardly ever switch off of Android. It totally lives up to the hype!
Yeah WA!
I feel that a lot of the custom Roms have too much, well, customization. What you need is the barebones. Check this one out. Been using it since June and I have't had any slowdowns yet.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656835
And yes it was designed to work on the Tmous handset even though it's on the International handset forum. Works on both.

HTC Sense features?

Hi again everyone!
This may sound like a stupid question, but I've been reading up on a lot of apps that disables the HTC Sense features (ie. Launcher Pro, Cyanogen ROM, etc).
I'm asking myself this question: What are the features of HTC Sense? What will we be missing if it's disabled? Smooth scrolling? Animations?
I read up on the HTC website but of course it's more marketing than informative *duh!*
Thanks for being patient with me
emigre said:
Hi again everyone!
This may sound like a stupid question, but I've been reading up on a lot of apps that disables the HTC Sense features (ie. Launcher Pro, Cyanogen ROM, etc).
I'm asking myself this question: What are the features of HTC Sense? What will we be missing if it's disabled? Smooth scrolling? Animations?
I read up on the HTC website but of course it's more marketing than informative *duh!*
Thanks for being patient with me
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htc_sense
emigre said:
Hi again everyone!
This may sound like a stupid question, but I've been reading up on a lot of apps that disables the HTC Sense features (ie. Launcher Pro, Cyanogen ROM, etc).
I'm asking myself this question: What are the features of HTC Sense? What will we be missing if it's disabled? Smooth scrolling? Animations?
I read up on the HTC website but of course it's more marketing than informative *duh!*
Thanks for being patient with me
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You'll get smoother animations and transitions between apps, but you can't use any HTC Sense widgets.
Thanks for the response zervic and Product F(RED)!
I just read the link that you provided. In summary, HTC Sense is just a smooth-scrolling, animated user-interface comprising of several applications & widgets for the Android, such as:
# Friend Stream
# Camera
# Gallery (Pictures)
# Calculator
# Calendar
# Desk Clock
# Contacts
# Music (player and library)
# Weather
etc.
That's it! Wonder what the big deal is…
Will anyone convince me I do not want to lose Sense at all?
emigre said:
Will anyone convince me I do not want to lose Sense at all?
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The two main things that work in Sense but not in CM6/AOSP are Flash Lite and FM Radio. Flash Lite is HTC's proprietary "lite" version of Flash that will allow you to view some of the more basic types of Flash on webpages (but not things like streaming videos or music). It's kind of pointless though because that basically means the only thing you can view are Flash ads... lol. Personally I haven't missed it.
Anyway, there's no need to "convince" you. You should just do a Nandroid backup then install CM6. If you don't like it, just load the backup and you're right back where you started like nothing happened.
drumist said:
The two main things that work in Sense but not in CM6/AOSP are Flash Lite and FM Radio. Flash Lite is HTC's proprietary "lite" version of Flash that will allow you to view some of the more basic types of Flash on webpages (but not things like streaming videos or music). It's kind of pointless though because that basically means the only thing you can view are Flash ads... lol. Personally I haven't missed it.
Anyway, there's no need to "convince" you. You should just do a Nandroid backup then install CM6. If you don't like it, just load the backup and you're right back where you started like nothing happened.
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I have been meaning to ask this question but I don't want to open another thread so I will ask here.
I am leaning towards making the jump to CM6, but I keep seeing that it has no Flash Lite or Flash 10.
Can you elaborate on that a little more? Does that affect my web browser?
I had the Tilt and that didn't have Flash and web browsing sucked. Will I have to deal with that again? Thanks.
tilt4life2 said:
I have been meaning to ask this question but I don't want to open another thread so I will ask here.
I am leaning towards making the jump to CM6, but I keep seeing that it has no Flash Lite or Flash 10.
Can you elaborate on that a little more? Does that affect my web browser?
I had the Tilt and that didn't have Flash and web browsing sucked. Will I have to deal with that again? Thanks.
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On Sense you can temporary disable Flash Lite through the browser settings, so if you're curious to see what it'd be like, just disable Flash Lite and see if it causes any problems for the sites you usually visit. Personally I don't think you'll miss it.
AOSP > Sense
Freedom > conformity
Sense is just HTCs way of making android their own. Using a rom without sense means you can make android your own instead of the way HTC thinks you want it. Samsung and Motorola both have their own versions as well (I'm sure others do too, but those are the only two I've others I've used. I personality prefer the extra customization you can achieve with an ASOP based rom. If that's not important then theres no reason not to stick with the stock sense ui.
tilt4life2 said:
I am leaning towards making the jump to CM6, but I keep seeing that it has no Flash Lite or Flash 10.
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The Aria is incapable of flash 10.
Hmm… Now I'm just speechless. I don't know what to say. Guess the best way is to flash different ROMs and try them out myself and see which ones I like best.
Thanks for participating people!
Lord Alekosh said:
The Aria is incapable of flash 10.
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Not exactly. Adobe has designed Flash for Android to rely on an instruction set that is not supported by the Aria's processor. It would still be possible for Adobe to create another version of Flash that WOULD work on Aria in the future (for the sake of expanding Flash support to more devices), although to date they haven't really given any indication that they would do that. I just wanted to point out that there is some hope still, although I wouldn't call myself optimistic.
drumist said:
Not exactly. Adobe has designed Flash for Android to rely on an instruction set that is not supported by the Aria's processor. It would still be possible for Adobe to create another version of Flash that WOULD work on Aria in the future (for the sake of expanding Flash support to more devices), although to date they haven't really given any indication that they would do that. I just wanted to point out that there is some hope still, although I wouldn't call myself optimistic.
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Yes, but the Aria's processor isn't fast enough for smooth playback anyways.
I had a stock Aria with Sense for several months and loved every bit of it...then I flashed Cyongenmod and I love it even more. Somethings arent as "pretty" as with sense but you get the added benefit of making it look the way you want. The level of customization is incredible and I dont miss Sense at all.
For those that miss the Sense weather/clock on the home screen, Just Google "Fancy Widget"...its exactly the same thing but without the cool weather animation thing that you get after unlocking from the lock screen. I think it was pulled from the market, but you can still find it. I have the apk if you cant.
Just do what others have said. Nandroid back up your current ROM, flash a new one and see how you like it for a few weeks. If you dont, go back to your old ROM. Its super easy.
Ki77erB said:
I had a stock Aria with Sense for several months and loved every bit of it...then I flashed Cyongenmod and I love it even more. Somethings arent as "pretty" as with sense but you get the added benefit of making it look the way you want. The level of customization is incredible and I dont miss Sense at all.
For those that miss the Sense weather/clock on the home screen, Just Google "Fancy Widget"...its exactly the same thing but without the cool weather animation thing that you get after unlocking from the lock screen. I think it was pulled from the market, but you can still find it. I have the apk if you cant.
Just do what others have said. Nandroid back up your current ROM, flash a new one and see how you like it for a few weeks. If you dont, go back to your old ROM. Its super easy.
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It's fancy widget 1.30. Don't say you're going to offer out because that's part piracy. Pointing them in the right direction isn't breaking any rules though.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I tested out Sense without flash and the only site I really go to (a NBA forum) had problems because they usually post youtube videos of dunks or other plays embedded in the threads and they wouldn't show up. That sucks.
But I have seen so many really amazing customizations in the Home Screens thread that I will probably go to CM6. One more final on Monday and then I can get to messing around with my phone.
I just love what people have done with Clockr. And the sense weather animations are cool so I will miss those.
I guess you're right "Product F(RED)". It took me awhile to find it and I would like to provide it to anyone who is looking, but I see what you're saying and maybe its not a good idea. On another note, I did a little bit of research and the guys who made the one that was pulled have made a new one (still called Fancy Widget) that is on the market. It looks pretty nice and has a lot of features, but does not have the "flip clock" design that I like so much.

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