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the vogue comeback?

anybody else think the touch vogue & qvga is going to be making a huge comeback? all i see are threads with people selling their touch pros and diamonds to go back to the vogue. i think it is one of htc's most valued ppc's. also with android running so well on it now i really think alot of users will be coming back.
thoughts?

People want the latest & greatest. I don't even want the Vogue but is what I am stuck with because of the stupid thinking over at Verizon. I don't have a data plan & you can only get the touch Pro if you are on a data plan.

No other handset is as mature in the Android space. It is an amazing OS running well enough for everyday use.

I'm keeping my Vogue until I can get an Android phone.

fireshaper said:
I'm keeping my Vogue until I can get an Android phone.
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Same here. I'm even abandoning my Diamond for it now. How sad is that? Sure speaks volumes about WinMo...

los1223 said:
Same here. I'm even abandoning my Diamond for it now. How sad is that? Sure speaks volumes about WinMo...
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+1
Android is insanely convenient.

Android feels like another Iphone thing... cant customize like winmo which is what i love so ill wait till diamond2 or touchpro2 comes out on Sprint
still loving my phone

fireshaper said:
I'm keeping my Vogue until I can get an Android phone.
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x2... I'm locked into my Alltel/Verizon? Contract til 2010 but luckily I picked up the last two in-stock Vogues they had for the wifey and me for only $80/ea. I initially regretted my decision but now that Android on the Vogue has matured so much that it can be used for everyday use I'm more than thrilled with the decision. Happy to be Rockin' the Vogue!!!

jadesse said:
People want the latest & greatest. I don't even want the Vogue but is what I am stuck with because of the stupid thinking over at Verizon. I don't have a data plan & you can only get the touch Pro if you are on a data plan.
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Same, even though the Vogue has worked out for me. I still would rather have a touch pro, or the touch pro 2 once it comes out.
I'd really like to have the Moto Schole thats coming out after using Android on the Vogue, its a nice OS.

magicalan said:
Android feels like another Iphone thing... cant customize like winmo which is what i love so ill wait till diamond2 or touchpro2 comes out on Sprint
still loving my phone
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WM is a terrible platform, it doesnt offer anything that android doesnt or at some point wont. Android even runs better on the vogue which was designed for WM. I just dont see why anyone would voluntarily choose WM overandroid. It would be great, if this was 2003.

magicalan said:
Android feels like another Iphone thing... cant customize like winmo which is what i love so ill wait till diamond2 or touchpro2 comes out on Sprint
still loving my phone
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You can absolutely customize Android. There are apps on the market and tons of downloadable themes. The apps cost a bit of money, and being that we're not really "stable" yet, I haven't bothered to buy them.
And need I point out mssmison's themed builds?

craig0r said:
You can absolutely customize Android. There are apps on the market and tons of downloadable themes. The apps cost a bit of money, and being that we're not really "stable" yet, I haven't bothered to buy them.
And need I point out mssmison's themed builds?
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yeah but most of the apps and themes are for "root" only, we can't have that yet.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but most of the apps and themes are for "root" only, we can't have that yet.
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I believe that was fixed today, although I may be mistaken on exactly what that entails.
Anyway, I tried the free "Lite" version of a couple theming apps a while back, and they worked fine. I forget what the difference between Lite and Full were though.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but most of the apps and themes are for "root" only, we can't have that yet.
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Dude, what apps are you trying to run that require root? I've seen you post this several times while looking around the forums today. I've never had an app intalled that wouldn't run because I wasn't root.

question on all vogue-android builds

which is the most stable for everyday use right now? also what happened to this tattoo build for us on qvga, i don't see it anywhere?

If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.

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If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.
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yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.
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I'm using the motor build at 240 x 320 & 110 lcd density... very nice. A few hiccups but this looks like my fav build so far. Once you get to homescreen let it settle down for a bit and it works well. Gps, native camera.... need to figure out how to fine-tune this puppy

none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I've been using xROM 1.5 for about 2 months with no issues what so ever. Why is it not functional enough for you to use? Everything works except bluetooth.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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Any of the Ion builds are great for use everyday. All you lack is bluetooth and MMS but Android makes up for that with its other benefits. Ion is perfectly stable and fast.

right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.

fixxxer2008 said:
right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.
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yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/

jamezelle said:
yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/
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wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.

fixxxer2008 said:
wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.
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We don't have root access though.

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We don't have root access though.
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yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.
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yeah but thats all we have to work with for now

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I would recommend using SPB Mobile shell 3.1 or 3.5 and then adding the Revolution theme. It's a rip off of the Hero UI and SPB Mobile shell is the MOST stable Today plugin that I have used to date.
They made it over in France so use this link to translate for you.
Sence le Revolution

You have root access through su. And to take a pic you can use the debugger in the sdk.
And hero runs sense ui just fine so no need to fake it.

woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.

fixxxer2008 said:
woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.
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edit: i just read users of the real hero are having the same issues with data connection on top of a ton of other major issues. i think ill hold off buying the hero until a fix comes out. sprint cannot afford another failure at this point.

i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it

zenulator said:
i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it
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i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.
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What about the ion build? That's every day usable in my eyes. And I've had problems with Windows mobile locking up and missing calls even on a stock Rom/radio...but to me I see more complaints from you than anyone else. I know things aren't prefect but users of other HTC windows phones would love to be able to run android as well as vogue/kaiser.

Will You Stick With Your HD2?

Hey guys, I know many of us just got out T-Mobile branded HD2's on the 24th.
T-Mobile offers a return within 15 days.
Are you going to keep your HD2? Did WinMo scare you off?
Are you going to trade it for some snapdragon android?

yes yes yes this phone is ten times better than what i expected it to be.... compared to my g1, this is heaven.
except when it freezes randomly for a couple seconds unexpectedly...

I have had WM thru my last 3 phones (Dash, TP2, now HD2) I will be keeping my HD2 and LOVE WM

skylinepigeon said:
yes yes yes this phone is ten times better than what i expected it to be.... compared to my g1, this is heaven.
except when it freezes randomly for a couple seconds unexpectedly...
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ahh I agree. I used to have a g1 as well.
I don't know about windows mobile yet...
but this screen is beautiful. I still kind of miss android apps and android sense...
still, it's a great device.

oh yeah, i do really miss the android marketplace, but try Omarket, its great.

skylinepigeon said:
oh yeah, i do really miss the android marketplace, but try Omarket, its great.
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will do! thanks

My coverage in the Twin Cities was terrible, even though on the maps, it was "Fast Mobile Web" all over. Edge 95% of the time, 5% 3G. Great phone, but kinda worthless on Edge, just shipped it back. Ordered a Telstra one.

telestra hd2
does the telestra hd2 have 3g data bands for at&t???

hiddengopher said:
ahh I agree. I used to have a g1 as well.
I don't know about windows mobile yet...
but this screen is beautiful. I still kind of miss android apps and android sense...
still, it's a great device.
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+1
Also, coming from G1. Still getting used to WM.
Wasn't thrilled the first few days, but that was just due to the learning curve. I'm now aware of how customizable WM is, which is great. So many ROM's, so many skins means that we can dial in our phones (no pun intended) the way we want them to be.
The screen and responsiveness on this thing is what is keeping me on it more than anything, though. Plus, I love the HTC music player, photo and video player, and calender. Great looking apps.

laphoneuser said:
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Also, coming from G1. Still getting used to WM.
Wasn't thrilled the first few days, but that was just due to the learning curve. I'm now aware of how customizable WM is, which is great. So many ROM's, so many skins means that we can dial in our phones (no pun intended) the way we want them to be.
The screen and responsiveness on this thing is what is keeping me on it more than anything, though. Plus, I love the HTC music player, photo and video player, and calender. Great looking apps.
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I agree with you entirely.
Although, we can't put custom roms and skins on the tmo version...

hiddengopher said:
I agree with you entirely.
Although, we can't put custom roms and skins on the tmo version...
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Of course you can. You just need to be sure to remove any customisations before returning it, should you need to. This is WinMo - you can do what you want

johncmolyneux said:
Of course you can. You just need to be sure to remove any customisations before returning it, should you need to. This is WinMo - you can do what you want
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oh? I thought we couldn't install ENG spl on the t-mobile branded HD2.
I need to research this more..

hiddengopher said:
oh? I thought we couldn't install ENG spl on the t-mobile branded HD2.
I need to research this more..
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I don't know to be honest. Check that in the ROM section. I can't see why not.

johncmolyneux said:
I don't know to be honest. Check that in the ROM section. I can't see why not.
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just noticed the new section for tmo-us.
I don't like the looks of the custom roms so far...we'll se in the future.

I'm so in between right now.
I was at the TMo store and googled if the HD2 was getting WinMo7 and the first few links said yes, so I bought it (impulse buy, I was there to change my calling plan).
I really was going to get a Nexus One because I like Android but as other posters have said, after the WinMo learning curve, again (this is NOT the first WM phone I've had) I am in between.
This has an amazing screen, hands down. But really, that's where the differences end for me (besides WM and Android)
-Both have XDA devs and their amazing custom roms
-Both have (well HD2 will have) a huge following
Tough call. I miss my apps on the iPhone but that's all I miss with it. Where are my updated RTS games? Or a good (and cheap) TD game for WM6.5?

HotShotAzn said:
I'm so in between right now.
I was at the TMo store and googled if the HD2 was getting WinMo7 and the first few links said yes, so I bought it (impulse buy, I was there to change my calling plan).
I really was going to get a Nexus One because I like Android but as other posters have said, after the WinMo learning curve, again (this is NOT the first WM phone I've had) I am in between.
This has an amazing screen, hands down. But really, that's where the differences end for me (besides WM and Android)
-Both have XDA devs and their amazing custom roms
-Both have (well HD2 will have) a huge following
Tough call. I miss my apps on the iPhone but that's all I miss with it. Where are my updated RTS games? Or a good (and cheap) TD game for WM6.5?
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try FPSECE for ps1 emulation!

hiddengopher said:
Hey guys, I know many of us just got out T-Mobile branded HD2's on the 24th.
T-Mobile offers a return within 15 days.
Are you going to keep your HD2? Did WinMo scare you off?
Are you going to trade it for some snapdragon android?
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I got mine on the 13th Dec 2009.
Where have you been?
And I'm keeping it!

I love my HD2. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe when Win Phone 7 series comes out but the HD2 seems pretty safe until the end of the year.

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does the telestra hd2 have 3g data bands for at&t???
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Yes, but man... does it cost an arm and a leg.

I'm definitely keeping it, I'm using international HD2 in UK
Through my experiences in the old days with Hero and 3GS, I got bored really quick with android and iphone os, but not with HD2/Winmo now. I found myself to be kind of loving to tweak my phone. I love the open-source and customizations of Winmo, still finding a lot to do with my HD2.
However, I really miss some apps and games from android or iphone os, such as: Plants vs Zombies, Angry Birds, Layar Reality Browser and especially Tunewiki. I heard a winmo version of Tunewiki is in developing process, hope it will come soon.

Froyo overall impressions

I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!

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I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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test test test

Yeah I wouldnt mind hearing from someone that came from say CM5 to the latest stock Froyo. Is it better? Is it worth flashing now seeing as how CM6 is about a week or so away?
I would try it now myself, but I can't give up the dumb little things. (such as trackball wake)

I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo. I was surprised that the final Froyo release seemed faster and smoother than FRF83. The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT. I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.

Super. Wonderful. Amazing. Thank you Google and anyone else on the OHA that contributed to this.
It's great. I love it. I love it even more when someone hands me a HTC Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile on it... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.

clickwir said:
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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Look at my sig pic, WM is all I ever used for years. I dabbled with android with emulators on my Fuze, then finally made the jump when the N1 was released. After using it for 1 day, I was emotional.
I really can't think of one single thing I miss with WM...

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The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.

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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).

irishrally said:
Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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The JIT actually wouldn't have any impact on loading times. The standard interpreted code is always run initially. It's only once the app starts running that the JIT is able to locate frequently accessed blocks of code that would benefit from compiling to native code.

irishrally said:
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo ...
... I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
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I too have used CyanogenMod since I had my G1. I DID play with, and greatly enjoy the Froyo ROM when it was released by PaulObrien.
But I did miss some of Cyanogens special additions, so I went back to it a few weeks ago.
Now with the latest Froyo out, I may change over - AGAIN!
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... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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hahaha, funny you mentioned that.
A co-worker of mine approached me, and said he bought this Android™ phone from a friend. He heard that I know about Android, rooting, apps, etc. so he had some questions for me. He hands me the phone, and I was thrilled to hold this LARGE HTC DEVICE in my hand. I haven't held an EVO, yet, so imagine my joy!!! My first time ya know so I was honored.
It was branded T-MOBILE though ... hhmm, this can't be right!!! It should say Sprint!!!
After seeing the homescreen and tapping/flicking/swiping for all of 1.0 seconds, I handed it back to him and told him he has a Windows Mobile device - NOT ANDROID, and boy oh boy, was he pissed!!!! LMAO
Poor guy!
"If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it."
I let him play with my Nexus for a few minutes. He offered to buy it from me for $450 .... nuh uh homeboy! This is my baby!

Is there much point getting one now?

I'm thinking of buying the HTC HD2 but is there much point now, if it won't be getting updated and newer and better phones are coming out?
I'm looking at it as it has the biggest screen(besides the streak which im also considering, but much more expensive)
What would you suggest?

70th said:
I'm thinking of buying the HTC HD2 but is there much point now, if it won't be getting updated and newer and better phones are coming out?
I'm looking at it as it has the biggest screen(besides the streak which im also considering, but much more expensive)
What would you suggest?
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if you actually like winmo as it is, with the way windows phone 7 is shaping up the hd2 could become a very valuable antique.

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if you actually like winmo as it is, with the way windows phone 7 is shaping up the hd2 could become a very valuable antique.
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I don't know because ive never used a winmo phone before.

70th said:
I don't know because ive never used a winmo phone before.
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What has been your phone history? And what do you use or intend using the phone for?
WM, iphone and android suit different ppl and WP7 looks weird imho...

well if you have the patient to wait until the end of 2010 or so, just wait. i didn't have or why don't you try Evo?

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What has been your phone history? And what do you use or intend using the phone for?
WM, iphone and android suit different ppl and WP7 looks weird imho...
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Over the last couple of years, ive only used the bold 9000, HTC Desire and iPhone 4, however i sent back the iphone 4 as the ui is getting very boring.
I use the phone more for texts and internet than phone, i primarily want to use it for web browsing, thats why the streak appealed to me, but this is cheaper, im just worried about updates, and the lack of official support after WP7
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well if you have the patient to wait until the end of 2010 or so, just wait. i didn't have or why don't you try Evo?
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I can't wait until the end of 2010 i have no phone at present lol. Also im in the UK so the Evo is a no go otherwise i would definitely have it.

if you like bets, get one now.
If the bet goes well, you will buy a "cheap" device which will get a fully functional froyo OS on it when the android devteam has completed the job, and be almost at the level of the Evo, without its bulkiness... and before the thing goes out and the demand increases, making the prices go higher.
If the bet goes bad, you still get a cheap but powerful device with WM on it
Anyway, given my experience with the device, and the market which is available for italy, I would get it again now as well.

70th said:
I don't know because ive never used a winmo phone before.
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Try before you buy my friend.
I've been using winmo for years and I love it. The HD2 is my favorite device yet.
Winmo users generally love to tweak. These forums make tweaking fun and you can usually get whatever you need, want and more for your phone if you're willing to search for it.
That being said, some find winmo and the HD2 an utter frustration. Some lament about buying the HD2 because it doesn't do everything right out of the box.
So if you like to customise, tweak and experiment, you may just love the HD2.
If you like something that works to it's full potential right out of the box, but may not be quite so custimisable and tweakable, perhaps another platform would be better.

i really NEVER recommend ppl a windows phone.. except i know that he can handle it.
i dont know u, so i would recommend android
u NEED to know what u do when u are using winmo, or u will hate it

The more I read about WM7, the more I am glad I have a WM6.5 phone, and I'm not planning to 'upgrade' to such a locked down platform.

ribcage said:
Try before you buy my friend.
I've been using winmo for years and I love it. The HD2 is my favorite device yet.
Winmo users generally love to tweak. These forums make tweaking fun and you can usually get whatever you need, want and more for your phone if you're willing to search for it.
That being said, some find winmo and the HD2 an utter frustration. Some lament about buying the HD2 because it doesn't do everything right out of the box.
So if you like to customise, tweak and experiment, you may just love the HD2.
If you like something that works to it's full potential right out of the box, but may not be quite so custimisable and tweakable, perhaps another platform would be better.
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I love tweaking, which is another reason for considering this phone, and which is why i got rid of the iPhone 4.
I love the idea of registry tweaks, which may sound weird, and i also love the idea of a winmo device being just like windows on the pc (regarding registry tweaks).
And regarding having everything work out of the box, i find that very boring, im always looking to do new things with a phone.
The only problem i am seeing is the future updates, looking at Android they are going to have constant updates, but obviously winmo 6.5 is not. however if i know that winmo will be getting unofficial updates from devs etc i will be more than happy to buy the HD2.
Thanks for all the replies so far.

Ok, i went ahead and bought a HD2, hopefully i'll enjoy it.

Please post your experiences with the phone.
And how much did you grab it for? US or non?

if you need big screen then definitely go for hd2. i was in your position. but screen size was a dealbreaker. had there one android phone with screen as big as this, i wouldn't have bought hd2

bluespire said:
Please post your experiences with the phone.
And how much did you grab it for? US or non?
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I got it for £279, comes with quite bit of accessories too, I would post the eBay link but not sure if allowed. Non US version
dan138zig said:
if you need big screen then definitely go for hd2. i was in your position. but screen size was a dealbreaker. had there one android phone with screen as big as this, i wouldn't have bought hd2
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Yes, the screen was probably the main reason for buying this phone.

70th said:
I got it for £279, comes with quite bit of accessories too, I would post the eBay link but not sure if allowed. Non US version
Yes, the screen was probably the main reason for buying this phone.
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i have to say i agree about the screen.. i have a hd2 and my friend got a desire soon after me.. the screen estate difference is just HUGE...
and i recently ran the android test build side by side with his phone screen beside mine.. the difference just got worse coz the widget icons are much smaller in android compared to the quick link icons in winmo..

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i have to say i agree about the screen.. i have a hd2 and my friend got a desire soon after me.. the screen estate difference is just HUGE...
and i recently ran the android test build side by side with his phone screen beside mine.. the difference just got worse coz the widget icons are much smaller in android compared to the quick link icons in winmo..
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Awesome, i cant wait for my HD2 now .
I was getting sick of the headaches after surfing the web on my iPhone 4 due to the small screen.

good choice.....
you made a good choice op. hd2 is my first wm phone and i'll admit, i love it. the tweaking on the phone is good fun. at the moment im running CHT and SPB Mobile Shell side by side as well as having loads of other little tweaks to make the phone my own. theres a ton of really good apps and software floating about the net.
The only bad point i can think of is Opera's non support of 10.1 for wm6.5. Skyfire's pretty usefull for flash though so all's not lost. i'm sure you will love your new phone bud......

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you made a good choice op. hd2 is my first wm phone and i'll admit, i love it. the tweaking on the phone is good fun. at the moment im running CHT and SPB Mobile Shell side by side as well as having loads of other little tweaks to make the phone my own. theres a ton of really good apps and software floating about the net.
The only bad point i can think of is Opera's non support of 10.1 for wm6.5. Skyfire's pretty usefull for flash though so all's not lost. i'm sure you will love your new phone bud......
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Thanks, i hope so, i've never seen anyone else with one

Only 2 good phones to get
HD2 - Windows
Evo - Anaroid
I love my Htc HD2