This is just an FYI to everyone who swtched from an android device to the HD2. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHEAPER DATA PLAN! they will try to tell you that the smartphone data plan and the android data plan are specific to the device and that one will not work on the other, but that is just not true. My android plan is $24.99 unlimited data and 400 texts a month the smartphone data plan is $30 with no texts. so after getting text messaging it's $10 more expensive. I swtch from my G1 to my HD2 all the time and the data works on both. Call up the customer loyalty group people and demand your android data plan back! they will give it to you if you keep at it. they switched me to the more expensive data plan after specificly telling them not to, i think its just an automatic system adjustment when you buy an HD2. but it can be switched back and it DOES WORK! dont be fooled by the CSR's they dont know what they are talking about. Spread the word!
This applys to anyone like me who has an old and cheap family plan and obviously not people with the unlimited everything plans
I'm set up the same way. Only issue is you will get some funky text messages for the vm notifications. Notifications on the wm phones still work, though.
mr-green said:
This is just an FYI to everyone who swtched from an android device to the HD2. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHEAPER DATA PLAN! they will try to tell you that the smartphone data plan and the android data plan are specific to the device and that one will not work on the other, but that is just not true. My android plan is $24.99 unlimited data and 400 texts a month the smartphone data plan is $30 with no texts. so after getting text messaging it's $10 more expensive. I swtch from my G1 to my HD2 all the time and the data works on both. Call up the customer loyalty group people and demand your android data plan back! they will give it to you if you keep at it. they switched me to the more expensive data plan after specificly telling them not to, i think its just an automatic system adjustment when you buy an HD2. but it can be switched back and it DOES WORK! dont be fooled by the CSR's they dont know what they are talking about. Spread the word!
This applys to anyone like me who has an old and cheap family plan and obviously not people with the unlimited everything plans
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I thought the same way, so I kept my Blackberry data plan for 25 dollars.
It didn't work properly. Internet was ok, but kept getting weird mms or email issues. changed to the 'proper' 30 dollar plan after 4 days, and I don't have that issue anymore.
As for how or why that happens, I don't know.
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I'm set up the same way. Only issue is you will get some funky text messages for the vm notifications. Notifications on the wm phones still work, though.
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I haven't noticed any text messages for the vm notifications. I do have visual vm working on the HD2.
I wasn't actually aware of the price difference between the 2 data plans.
I actually switched back to Android data plan so I could try something on my HTC Dream and since the HD2 works as well... no reason to switch back.
I thought tmo us only offers 2 kinds of data plan. first one is for blackberry users and it's called blackberry network. the second one is for any other smart phone users. it's called the android network. even hd2 is a wm phone, it uses the android network.
its not that bad of a deal considering you pay 30$ for data and 5$ extra for unlimited text
yeah it's not that bad its only $10 more, but everytime they have a new phone or OS they add a new data service that is a little more expensive. first it was the BB data which i believe started at $20 then the android $25 that includes texts, now they have the smartphone data plan $30 w/ no texts. To me it seems that if you can keep whatever grandfathered in data plan and phone plan for that matter it will always save you money. If you dont keep the charges where they are at they will nickel and dime you to death! the funny thing is that i doubt there is much of a change in the actual service it just has a new name and a new price tag to with it. once HSPDA is available in Kansas City where Im at I would gladly pay more, but i dont see a reason for charging more for the same service.
oh and also, I have had zero issues with the android data plan on my HD2. it works exactly the same as it did before when I had the new smartphone data plan and didnt know it. once I fiqured out they switched my data plan I immidiately switched back to the android plan. I have had no weird VM notification issues or anything.
good point
Heh I rem making a post about this too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652990
Data plan costs the same. but if they give me the smartphone one, G1 internet dies.. However.. otherway around.. works fine.
t-mobile getting pretty close to at&t now with their data plans.i pay extra $5 now for unlimited web and text before i had the $35 unlimited data and text.i always thought data plans prices would go down day by day but i was defenetly WRONG.wondering how much carriers gonna charge for 4G datas?
I am looking at the HD2, presently have the iPhone. I am with T-Mobile and have the non-contract family plan (4 phones.) I have 750 shared minutes, unlimited Text, Unlimited Internet (my phone only) and pay $100.92/month.
I talked to T-Mobile at 2 different locations and they tell me something different.
If I buy a 2 Year contract I can get the HD2 for $199.00, but must pay $24.95 or $30.00/month for the data plan. They say that I can keep my other 3 phones without a contract. That equates to $240 more a year. However, I cannot just keep my unlimited Internet @ $10/month. I must get a data plan.
They tell me that I will be changed from the Unlimited Internet $10 to the Data Plan automatically when I use my phone.The 2 year contract does not bother me as I have used T-Mobile for years and will continue to do so unless I find a better plan.
My questions are:
1. What is the advantage of buying the HD2 at $500 vs $200 as you still have to buy the Data Plan? Apparently the 2 year contract.
2. Why can't I just buy the HD2 and use my old SIM card and continue under the plan I have? Will they really worry about my current Internet plan and get me for the Data Plan?
3. Is the HD2 better than the iPhone overall? I am very impressed with the HD2 and from what I have seen via YouTube, it is very slick.
I know I will receive different opinions, however, that is what I am looking for. Have had the MDA, Wing, Omnia and iPhone.
I value your opinions as I have been on XDA for years and have received very valuable information and Help! Thanks in advance.
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I am looking at the HD2, presently have the iPhone. I am with T-Mobile and have the non-contract family plan (4 phones.) I have 750 shared minutes, unlimited Text, Unlimited Internet (my phone only) and pay $100.92/month.
I talked to T-Mobile at 2 different locations and they tell me something different.
If I buy a 2 Year contract I can get the HD2 for $199.00, but must pay $24.95 or $30.00/month for the data plan. They say that I can keep my other 3 phones without a contract. That equates to $240 more a year. However, I cannot just keep my unlimited Internet @ $10/month. I must get a data plan.
They tell me that I will be changed from the Unlimited Internet $10 to the Data Plan automatically when I use my phone.The 2 year contract does not bother me as I have used T-Mobile for years and will continue to do so unless I find a better plan.
My questions are:
1. What is the advantage of buying the HD2 at $500 vs $200 as you still have to buy the Data Plan? Apparently the 2 year contract.
2. Why can't I just buy the HD2 and use my old SIM card and continue under the plan I have? Will they really worry about my current Internet plan and get me for the Data Plan?
3. Is the HD2 better than the iPhone overall? I am very impressed with the HD2 and from what I have seen via YouTube, it is very slick.
I know I will receive different opinions, however, that is what I am looking for. Have had the MDA, Wing, Omnia and iPhone.
I value your opinions as I have been on XDA for years and have received very valuable information and Help! Thanks in advance.
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dont know the difference between the $10 data plan and the $30 data plan but all i know i've been using the iPHONE 3g since it came out on t-mobile offcourse jailbroken,never thought i would go back to windows mobile till the HD2 arrived and i gave my iPHONE to my sister for good and never looked back cuz im shocked by the experience on the HD2 since i became a member on the XDA.thanx to XDA i've tweaked the HD2 and loving it and looking forward to the end of this year for XDA to flash WM to ANDROID 2.1 on the HD2.as far on buying the HD2,i've already have a contract with t-mobile and i was do for an upgrade but instead of upgrade i bought the phone with 4 months installment plan which is about $112.50 a month on the bill(which is not bad) and i made sure that they didnt upgrade my contract.also added $5.99 for full insurance.so.......... so far loving the HD2 and its a keeper for me.hope it helps u a little.
@asctony if I were you I would try tobuy an unlocked hd2 and try to keep the $10 internet.but I would make sure it works first somehow, anyone here know? the csr will say it wont but I bet it will.if it works the price difference would pay for your phone in a relatively short amount of time.
Thank you both for taking the time to answer my query. Yes, I will try to use my $10 Internet Unlimited. When I signed up for the $10 Internet Unlimited CSR told me that I could not and it would not work. However, little do they know other than $$$$$$$$. Been using it for almost a year. I am really excited about the HD2 and will let you know what my opinion is. Thanks again.
Actually, you don't need to call customer care. Log into your mytmobile, change the phone in your profile to an Android phone and then add your data plan.
@asctony: if you buy it from the TMo retail store or a 3rd party that does not have rebates and does not require a data plan, then no, you don't have to change your data plan. Use your existing data plan by changing your APN (search my post about Nexus One and HD2).
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Actually, you don't need to call customer care. Log into your mytmobile, change the phone in your profile to an Android phone and then add your data plan.
@asctony: if you buy it from the TMo retail store or a 3rd party that does not have rebates and does not require a data plan, then no, you don't have to change your data plan. Use your existing data plan by changing your APN (search my post about Nexus One and HD2).
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it is not like a switch that you toggle right? because i am looking at it in my profile but since i have a grandfathered plan it says it conflicts with the current smartphone plan. maybe i am not looking in the right spot.
that's weird.... I switched my plan from android internet to the total internet for the HD2. both were the same price of $24.95. I'm here in NJ if that makes a difference
Yeah I had the $34.99 unlimited internet and texts for android. When I called customer service they switched me over to the smartphone plan and I'm still paying $34.99, don't know how that happened exactly but I'm happy!
No MMS
I've been with T-Mobile forever. I had a Blackberry before my Touch Pro 2. My Blackberry BIS add-on charge is $19.99/month. Internet is good and fast, phone and SMS work great. Cannot send or receive MMS and was told by customer support that, "your HTC sends MMS via the data plan and your current Blackberry data plan is not compatible with your phone."
My kids have cheap camera phones that send/receive MMS on our same family plan, but my more sophisticated WinMo device cannot? Sounds fishy, but I have searched every thread and tried every setting and finally have given up. I can live without MMS if it's going to cost me an extra $180/year.
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yeah it's not that bad its only $10 more, but everytime they have a new phone or OS they add a new data service that is a little more expensive. first it was the BB data which i believe started at $20 then the android $25 that includes texts, now they have the smartphone data plan $30 w/ no texts. To me it seems that if you can keep whatever
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You are aware that they had the data plan for Smartphones long before Android came out, right?
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So I'm curioous how this new data plan requirement works. Is there anyone out there who didn't have a $30 data plan when they got the Pure, and still doesn't have a $30 data plan?
If you had a $30 data plan added when you bought the Pure, was it added automatically by the system when you stuck your SIM in, or did the sales rep add it?
If you did not have a $30 data plan before you bought it, and the rep didn't add it, can you check the Online Account Manager and see if the Pure shows up but your data plan is still not the $30 plan?
Prior to purchasing the HTC Pure I had the unlimited family data plan for $10.00. I purchased the Pure at full retail price, as I was waiting to see if At&t would come out with some new devices before the end o f the year. As of today my data plan has not changed. The retail clerk did not offer or suggest or state that I was required to change my plan at the time of purchase. So I still have the $10.00 unlimited family data plan on my account.
I used my upgrade to buy the Pure so I was required to get the $30 data plan. Before I was still using an old 2125 (aka htc tornado). The unlimited plan for that was only $15 per month.
The data plan requirement is supposedly based on the device you are using, but when you buy a phone they only check your account if you are getting the upgrade discount for the phone.
If you buy the phone without the contract then that would explain why your data plan hasn't changed.
For those of you with ATT you may be able to pay less for data like I do on T-Mo. Not sure what the equivilant Data plan to the $9.99Web2Go(formerly T-MoWeb $5.99) is but I get full web capability off of it with my unlocked phones. If I log onto My-Tmobile online and I put my phone as a WinMo phone My T-mo Web (GrandFathered in @ $5.99 ) goes away and I have to choose one of the $20+ Plans. So what I do is choos a low end phone as my device and I have the option of using my T-Mo web service. (Unlimited Data Baby)
This may work for ATT. I'm not familiar with ATTs site so I can't give direct directions for this but mebe you can do it. After doing it go to settings>all Settings> Connection and connection setup and your phone will automatically configure the settings. You probably wont even have to reconfigure the settingd. But you will have to be carful on what you DL because the low end data plans now have caps on them so you can only DL so much.
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I used my upgrade to buy the Pure so I was required to get the $30 data plan. Before I was still using an old 2125 (aka htc tornado). The unlimited plan for that was only $15 per month.
The data plan requirement is supposedly based on the device you are using, but when you buy a phone they only check your account if you are getting the upgrade discount for the phone.
If you buy the phone without the contract then that would explain why your data plan hasn't changed.
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Well I don't have the phone. I am just trying to confirm that if I buy a Touch Pro 2 no commit my data plan will or will not automatically change. I figured there must be someone out there who bought a Pure that can confirm this once and for all- one way or the other.
I'm waiting on the Pure which I ordered online on attwireless. I bought it retail, no commitment and didnt't change my current plan. I will be adding the $15 data on the line I will be using the Pure. I currently have an unbranded phone on that line and can add any feature myself on their website. Something tells me that I'll get by.
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I'm waiting on the Pure which I ordered online on attwireless. I bought it retail, no commitment and didnt't change my current plan. I will be adding the $15 data on the line I will be using the Pure. I currently have an unbranded phone on that line and can add any feature myself on their website. Something tells me that I'll get by.
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Nice. good to see that AT&T has a way to bypass the expensive plan like tmobile. Not many peolp know they can change plan options online.
Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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I give you an example. I gave my 3GS to my wife and she had the first generation iphone with the $20 data plus messaging and they're yet to figure out that she's using the 3GS with a cheaper plan.
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Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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Intresting. I know T-mobile can see what phone I have (Topaz) and that it's not Branded. But if ATT automatically switches your plan with what phone you have that is total BS. Unlocked or Branded it shouldn't matter. It's non of their buisness.
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I give you an example. I gave my 3GS to my wife and she had the first generation iphone with the $20 data plus messaging and they're yet to figure out that she's using the 3GS with a cheaper plan.
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That's cool. They only say you need the high data plan to use all the phone features so they can make extra money. They could sell the phone without the data plan if they wanted and leave it as a side option.
AT&T finds out quickly what phone you use. I changed my sim from my unlocked Tilt to a Sony W580i, received 2 calls, made none, loged in to my AT&T account & there it appears my phone as a Sony W580i.
How do they find out& is there a way to get them from finding out?
AT&T finds out quickly what phone you use. I changed my sim from my unlocked Tilt to a Sony W580i, received 2 calls, made none, loged in to my AT&T account & there it appears my phone as a Sony W580i.
How do they find out& is there a way to get them from finding out?
Nope. They find out from the SIM card. It tells them which phone it's inserted in. Whenever I call Customer support for T-mobile they know I have an unlocked phone. They don't care. Not sure if AT&T cares. But on T-mobiles website I have the option of choosing which phone I'm "using" on my account. It doesn't automatically choose it for me unless I put my sim in a T-mo Branded phone.
I have been with AT&T for >7 years now. For the last 4 years or so, I've had a MediaNet plan that's $20 for All-you-can-eat data and 200 text messages. I've had 4 phones since then, 3 of which have been smartphones. I just checked my plan a minute ago, and it's still the same one.
There is an inertia built into the system. Unless someone goes in and specifically changes codes, they stay there forever. I'm still getting a company discount for a company I haven't worked for in over 2 years. Whatever codes you have in place will stay there. They know what phone you have because of the SIM card, but that has no effect on the codes.
The exception is the iPhone.
I have the $25 unlimited data plan that has 200 messages and unlimited "in-network" messaging (SMS and MMS).
AT&T is sending me a Pure as a warranty replacement when their 4 broken Fuzes didn't work. They never said anything about automatically upgrading my account.
We also upgraded my wife's old a$$ samsung Blackjack to the new Samsung Jack because it is supposed to get a WM6.5 upgrade soon. The guy said the upgrade was supposed to require a data plan. I just said she doesn't use data just likes the keyboard for SMSing... he quick to move on. No problem at all.
I think it's stupid that they even had 2 different data plans based off what phone you have. Total crap. They tell me that my phone is "too fast" for the cheaper data package and the internet can't keep up with it. lol.
AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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Holy wow that's expensive. I pay $56 a month with taxes with unlimited data and 1500 messages. My sis and mom are on a family plan and pay 80 some odd dollars with messages. (No data for them).
Crazy how 3 phones is nearly the same as 2.
I just bought a Pure for 49.99 as an upgrade and one condition was to add the 30 dlls Data Plan. Att they don't sell you the phone if you don't add the data plan, thats what I've been told for one of their representatives. I had a Tilt for the past 2 years paying only $15 dlls for unlimited data, on my account appeared the tilt but on their system showed a Nokia 6682 phone. They didn't make the change from Nokia 6682 to the Tilt I don't know why. I bought the Tilt two years ago over the internet on Black Friday. Now it shows the Pure but with the 30 dlls data plan added. One thing is for sure if att finds out that you are using a Smartphone they will add you the 30 dlls data plan automatically and may charge for past months.
How did you get them to sell it for 49.95?
I thought I'm paying a lot for my phones but yours is worst. I have the Tilt with Unlimited data+200 message, my wife has the iPhone 1st Gen and my son has a Samsung phone with unlimited msg (no data). My monthly bill is about $140.
Since I'm already on the $30 unlimited data plan on my Tilt, is there a way to switch back to the cheaper plan?
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I have the $25 unlimited data plan that has 200 messages and unlimited "in-network" messaging (SMS and MMS).
AT&T is sending me a Pure as a warranty replacement when their 4 broken Fuzes didn't work. They never said anything about automatically upgrading my account.
We also upgraded my wife's old a$$ samsung Blackjack to the new Samsung Jack because it is supposed to get a WM6.5 upgrade soon. The guy said the upgrade was supposed to require a data plan. I just said she doesn't use data just likes the keyboard for SMSing... he quick to move on. No problem at all.
I think it's stupid that they even had 2 different data plans based off what phone you have. Total crap. They tell me that my phone is "too fast" for the cheaper data package and the internet can't keep up with it. lol.
AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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How did you get them to sell it for 49.95?
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On tigerdirect.com they have it as an upgrade for 49.99 and the Tilt 2 for 199.99 free activation also.
Poor att users, I'm so glad I switched to t-mo.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/197755/atandt_pulls_the_plug_on_its_unlimited_data_plans.html
The New AT&T Mobile Data Plans
•· DataPlus is the cheapest plan available, which provides you with 200MB of data for $15 per month, a much better value plan for light data users who pay $30 for the unlimited plan right now. AT&T says that on average, 65 per cent of its customers use less than 200MB per month. If you exceed 200MB in a month, you can get another 200MB for an additional $15.
•· DataPro is the new highbrow mobile data plan from AT&T, which includes 2GB of data for $25 per month, and will charge each additional GB used over this limit at $10. This new plan is designed to replace the outgoing Unlimited plan, as AT&T claims 98 percent of its smartphone customers use on average less than 2GB of data per month.
•· The Tethering plan for iPhones will work only along the $20 per month DataPro plan, and costs an additional $20 monthly. Unfortunately, this extra $20 won't give you any extra GB of data usage, as the 2GB included in the DataPro plan will be shared between your phone and the tethered device. Tethering for iPhones is expected to be available when Apple releases iPhone OS 4 this summer.
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So this is only for new customers right? I'm assuming the customers already on unlimited will keep it correct?
sucks for them. $45 a month for 2GB including tethering optionis just ridiculous.
im sure AT&T will force people to switch to this plan eventually like they did the smartphone plans.
FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
agreed I feel sorry for you guys, we get screwed with 3 year contracts, but im ok with that since I pay $30 for 6gb and that includes tethering. To pay an extra $20 and not get an increase in your bandwidth limit sucks.
Ouch.
Maybe my girlfriend's iPhone will have a tragic accident so we can get out of Dodge...
*sad face*
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FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
i don't think the new ETF has taken into effect; i called yesterday and asked how much it would be to get out of my family plan, and the rep gave me numbers based on $175 and not $325; thinking about moving to Sprint (23% discount from employer plus EVO)
also, i don't think this is grounds for getting out of paying ETF since, as of now, customers still have the option to keep current data plans and if they switch, it doesn't renew contract
while this is a bad deal for those who uses data a lot, this is somewhat of a benefit for my dad's iphone (i just checked and since he got the phone, he only uses about 100mb/month) so he can save $15/month
i imagine the unlimited will be grandfathered just like the old 10cent/kb plan i used to have since like 2000
glad ive got the unlimited while it was still available, according to this tiered pricing my bill last month just for data would have been over 50 bucks.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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Mmmm, considering what ATT is doing here, I'd say Tmo is great. In addition to the fact that you're stuck using Edge, which adds even more value to Tmo.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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you should just call ATT and ask how much it would be if you terminate your contract; you can have an answer directly from them
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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I doubt it because [according to Engadget] current unlimited data subscribers are welcome to keep their $30/mo plan for as long as they'd like, so you're not being forced to change your plan.
When I first read about the change I thought it sounded pretty bad, but I just checked my data usage and I only use just over 1gb a month despite very very heavy web browsing on my phones. If I tethered often or streamed video, I might not like this plan, but I cannot fathom how much web browsing I'd have to do to go over 2gb a month.
If you guys use the wifi tethering feature, they probably won't be able to detect that you are tethering, right?
What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
yeah this stinks in a way. but all of us are grandfathered in. this is only for new customers. until you sign a new contract you can keep using the current pricing. but after that...
i've been out of contracct for 4 years now and only use unlocked phones, so i guess i could theoretically stay grandfathered indefinitely.
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What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
Paul22000 said:
What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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They can't unless they built it into the phone. So if you can get froyo on your att nexus you can tether without paying the fee.
All other 2.2 phones will be modified by their respective carriers to "check in" before enabling the built in tether option.
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
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This is true. I have used my WinMo phones to tether on at&t for quite some time, beginning with HTC Faraday. Back then I called because I was stupid having problems getting the faraday to tether to my personal computer (The one I tested it on was fine) and the guy was like, you have to buy the tether package for $60/month to get the right cable. I was like no I don't, I did it earlier on another PC. He stammered and was like, well, if you try to access data heavy sites like youtube, it probably won't work. I was like okay w/e...hung up, played around, got it to work, and streamed an episode of Family Guy with no problems just to prove him wrong (once I let it DL. stupid EDGE). I've yet to see an extra charge for my data. (even when I was using the $10 MEdia Net package with a smartphone, which I was with the Faraday)
i going to ride out my grandfathered tmobile plan for as long as i can... $5/month for unlimited 3G data and tether/hotspot
This morning I got text from AT&T that they moved me from my $15 unlimited data plan to $25 2GB smartphone dataplan . Did this happen to anyone? I am wondering is this has got anything to do with X10 coming to AT&T soon? My wife has Nokia N97 and she didn't get the message (touch wood).
Damn, it sucks to pay them $25 when you pay full price for your phone. I am going to call them and at least try to grandfather me to $30 unlimited plan instead of this 2MB plan as it should help when I grab a Huawei S7 Android Tablet or similar device.
are you sure it's 2MB instead of 2GB? that could be used up in no time.
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This morning I got text from AT&T that they moved me from my $15 unlimited data plan to $25 2MB smartphone dataplan . Did this happen to anyone? I am wondering is this has got anything to do with X10 coming to AT&T soon? My wife has Nokia N97 and she didn't get the message (touch wood).
Damn, it sucks to pay them $25 when you pay full price for your phone. I am going to call them and at least try to grandfather me to $30 unlimited plan instead of this 2MB plan as it should help when I grab a Huawei S7 Android Tablet or similar device.
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lol I wasn't aware of a 2MB plan..what can you do with that? send 3 emails a month?
Can you let me know if you're able to grandfather your $30 plan? I just got billed the 2gb plan too.
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I also got the text this morning. Sucks. I purposefully bought the x10 in may because I had heard the nexus one was recognized by att and required the smartphone plan. Going to put my sim back in the old nokia n95 and try to switch it back to the 10 family data plan. The only reason I buy unlocked phones is because of the cheaper data plan. If I was going to pay for the full smartphone plan, I would just get a subsidized phone from them for cheap. The smartphone plan is 2gb btw, not 2mb. From my usage, 2gb would be plenty, do you guys actually use more than 2gb a month?
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This sucks... anyone have any success with contacting AT&T to switch back?
I just finished talking to AT&T. I switched my SIM card to my old W810i and told them I didnt have a smartphone. They are trying to switch me back to my original $15 Unlimited Data for Non-Smartphone plan. Looks like i'm going to have to buy another phone...
Any ideas? Switch back to X1 or X2? :/
i have theyre 30 dollar plan, which is unlimited text and data and i didnt get the text today
I got the same text this morning. Planning to call in later today to try to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan, then I fully intend to soak up a lot of data. It's complete bs that we need to pay for the extremely overpriced data plan when we didn't receive any subsidy from them. I don't care what they spew out about them doing us a fair by giving us enough data so we don't get overcharged. It's the same internet we've been receiving from them and it's been that way for years.
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Lol guys you pay 25$ for 2 gb ?
In my country i pay 25$ for 6 gb lol
Lucky me
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I got the same text this morning. Planning to call in later today to try to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan, then I fully intend to soak up a lot of data. It's complete bs that we need to pay for the extremely overpriced data plan when we didn't receive any subsidy from them. I don't care what they spew out about them doing us a fair by giving us enough data so we don't get overcharged. It's the same internet we've been receiving from them and it's been that way for years.
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When you call them can you also ask them whether they detected you by IMEI or your total usage, because I am also using the x10a on AT&T but has no data plan and have yet to receive the text message. Thanks
when I went to asia I paid $1.50 for 2gb
I received the text for the smartphone data plan today too. I guess the rumors of the x10 going to at&t are true. What's a good data counter app for the x10/android besides the at&t one? I want a widget of some sort.
I may be getting rid of my x10 now. I've always wanted to try an n900 or even e72 and may end up doing so. Was going to get an ipod touch in september for media anyway. Not sure what to do. No point in buying unlocked for me if I can't use medianet (even though technically we are supposed to use the data plan anyway), even though I also buy unlocked just so I can switch phones often. When they finally remove medianet for good, then I'll get sucked in to their data capped plans. Until then, the war continues.
I used to work for att as a csr so ill throw in my two cents.
Whether they can match your imei to a specific model is unimportant. The system has a way of flagging people using smartphones. From what I understand you get flagged when your phone tries to access the data network with an incorrect or non existant feature. So if you have no data plan don't access ur data through the network and you won't get flagged. If u have one of the non smartphone data plans u are gonna get flagged sooner or later.
PS if u get the text saying u have been put on a data plan call them and tell them u were only trying your friends phone. Get a non smartphone imei ready and they should be able to remove it.
Hope this helps
Guys why all the grumbling over $30, I'm with vodafone in the UK and my mobile price plan is for calls and data. I pay £30 GBP which is about $40-45 USD, for that I get 600 minutes of calls, 500 sms & 1gb of data. Yes 1gb and that's only a recent change because smartphones becoming so popular, when I started my contact in April I only got 500mb and went over that the first two months.
Do you guys get calls included in your plans? Not sure how it works in the US & Canada?
I wish I could get 2gb for $30 which is about £20 GBP but that's dependent on included call time.
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blackwindexe said:
when I went to asia I paid $1.50 for 2gb
I received the text for the smartphone data plan today too. I guess the rumors of the x10 going to at&t are true. What's a good data counter app for the x10/android besides the at&t one? I want a widget of some sort.
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I use " data counter widget " its free from the market, have nice stat too.
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Can you let me know if you're able to grandfather your $30 plan? I just got billed the 2gb plan too.
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Oops about the 2MB plan. Talked to AT&T CSR and they won't let me grandfather to $30 plan as I was on $15 unlimited dumb phone plan. So, I am sC*W#*@*. Hope I don't exceep 2GB. Started to enable WiFi and also checked the notify option for WiFi Networks.
I because of the crazy data use by iPhone users AT&T is making everyone suffer with these stupid limited data plans as I now need to monitor my use.
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When you call them can you also ask them whether they detected you by IMEI or your total usage, because I am also using the x10a on AT&T but has no data plan and have yet to receive the text message. Thanks
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I was told I was detected by my data usage. So, I am wondering even if I go back to something like W995a, I still would probably chewing in lot of data but these days I got too depended on Google maps to check out restaurant reviews, etc. I was told the $15 unlimited data plan will exist if I ever get another dumb phone.
In canada we pay 30$ for 1gb. I would gladly pay that for 2gb.
I just got off the phone with at&t ccr, and after a lot of persistence, it seems at&t is really getting the x10, or at least something from sony that fed them am imei list.
Also I have some good news.
After opening a ticket and talking to two separate reps (one from the regular customer care and one from the business dept), both seem to believe that an elevated team will be able to change my plan to the smartphone unlimited data.
To those who tried and were unsuccessful, I would try again. Having the right rep really means a lot in these kinds of situations.
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In canada we pay 30$ for 1gb. I would gladly pay that for 2gb.
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I am in Canada and pay $35 for unlimited (5 GB soft cap). That's with Wind Mobile.
I was just wondering if anybody has personally been able to use their grandfathered $10 web2go data plan with their new samsung vibrant? I was able to use it on my old wm phones with the right apn settings but I'm not sure if it's the same in android. If you have gotten it to work, I would really appreciate it if you could post your apn settings because so far all the ones I've tried online haven't worked for me.
All of those grandfathered plans work -- for about six hours. I was using T-Zones on my iPhone, which worked on my Vibrant until my account updated. Once T-Mo updates your profile with the IEMI number of the device, they cut off your access and forward your phone to an obnoxious 'Upgrade To The Android Data Plan' message.
If they didn't have your phone registered in their database, you could continue to use your grandfathered plan (which you should be able to do anyway, to be honest).
And then, of course, you're asked to pay $30/mo for an 'unlimited' data plan that actually has a 3G cap of 10GB. Once you reach that threshold, you're throttled to EDGE.
Meanwhile, Sprint and Verizon have truly unlimited data for phones, for the exact same price.
If Verizon still has their unlimited data package when their GSM network rolls out for LTE, I know where I'm going...
If u talk to customer loyality you can get the grandfathered $20 / mon data plan. I know it's not the $10 plan but atleast it's not the $30 plan. I talked to them and they let me use that plan, just make sure you request them to add-on the visual voicemail option if you use the TMo one since it won't work off hand w/out it added on as an option (this add-on is free).
No direct experience with the $10 plan, but I had the way old 5.99 T-zones that allowed a proxy setting to get full 'net access on a symbian phone. It worked for a few hours with my first android then was blocked. I stuck my brother's SIM whose account had the same proxy 'net access with no monthly fee and it worked with android for a few hours as well.
Seems as if T-Mo is detecting android phones on the network and actually enforcing a data plan requirement.
I've read numerous posts at the official T-mobile forums and beyond a couple of phones like the Samsung Behold, no Android phone and certainly no upper-range Android phone that is branded by T-mobile (they have the IMEI numbers blocked) will work with the $5.99 T-zones or the $10 web2go plan. The only options are the $30 (EM) / $25 (EM+) Android data plan or the preferred version for loyal customers, which is $5 cheaper.
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The only options are the $30 (EM) / $25 (EM+) Android data plan or the preferred version for loyal customers, which is $5 cheaper.
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Or the $19.99 plan if u call in and talk to retentions they can add it there. Did it there with no issues.
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Or the $19.99 plan if u call in and talk to retentions they can add it there. Did it there with no issues.
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Well I tried calling several times but no such luck on getting through to the customer loyalty department thus far. Is there some special password or buzzword to talk to these guys? Although truth be told I've only been with tmobile since 2007. Is that a long enough time to qualify for this preferred plan? I really love how tmobile screws us android users over. It's no wonder as to how they're losing customers and yet still gaining revenue...
You have to say that you're thinking about moving to a different carrier, and you'd like to be transferred to the customer retention department.
I brought up the Sprint $70/mo unlimited plan (450 landline minuts, unlimited cell minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data). I was able to negotiate unlimited minutes (regardless) and unlimited data for $70 (I declined texts because GVoice is free, and texting is stupid anyway).
Hope that helps.
I think I'm just gonna return the vibrant and use my hd2 until my contract ends in a couple months and then possibly buy the vibrant off contract. Perhaps by then they'll have actually bothered fixing the gps although I'm not holding my breath...
The only thing I don't understand is on the even more + plans it seems data is $20 a month in the bundle. Is this true for android phones as well? Or is there some special android data plan designated to milk us for more money?
just get EM+
if u get the talk text web package it's included.
or else it's $25.00 addon
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just get EM+
if u get the talk text web package it's included.
or else it's $25.00 addon
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Thanks, I think I can live without data for a month so I guess I'll switch to that plan when my contract's up. I may just use google voice for text since I don't even use it that often.
I was on grandfathered "Total Internet" and it worked for about three hours. Then I got IMEI intercepted. ****ers.
Anyway, called and raised hell, they switch the data to the Loyalty Android. Same price. I then went back to the HD2 and it didn't lock me even after several hours, so it appears that with Android Data you can switch between it and Windows Mobile, but with the old "Total Internet" you CANNOT use Android handsets.
Pretty stupid if you ask me, and I told them so, since there IS a $20 option that Loyalty can put on the account (if you qual for it, and if you have grandfathered data they should not object, since there's no reason for you to pay more and GET LESS.)
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I was on grandfathered "Total Internet" and it worked for about three hours. Then I got IMEI intercepted. ****ers.
Anyway, called and raised hell, they switch the data to the Loyalty Android. Same price. I then went back to the HD2 and it didn't lock me even after several hours, so it appears that with Android Data you can switch between it and Windows Mobile, but with the old "Total Internet" you CANNOT use Android handsets.
Pretty stupid if you ask me, and I told them so, since there IS a $20 option that Loyalty can put on the account (if you qual for it, and if you have grandfathered data they should not object, since there's no reason for you to pay more and GET LESS.)
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Interesting. And what would the qualifications for that plan be?
If you don't have Total Internet, you probably can't get swapped over. Total Internet was their old $20 unlimited (TRULY unlimited, not throttled) data plan.
I've been with T-Mo since it was Voicestream, and had Total Internet on my old Nokia 6161... with which I tethered! They did not want to see me leave, and I was quite willing to go to Sprint if I had to. It helped that I am off contract.
Damn. I've only been with with tmobile since 2007. Right around the same time at&t's network began bucking under the weight of the iphones really.
Like I said: try calling customer loyalty / retention. I've been with T-Mo for nearly a decade, and they switched me to the $20 'Unlimited*' Android plan, from my $5/mo T-Zones.
*Plan is not actually Unlimited -- 3G Data is capped at 10GB. Upon reaching 10GB cap, said customer is dropped to EDGE.
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Like I said: try calling customer loyalty / retention. I've been with T-Mo for nearly a decade, and they switched me to the $20 'Unlimited*' Android plan, from my $5/mo T-Zones.
*Plan is not actually Unlimited -- 3G Data is capped at 10GB. Upon reaching 10GB cap, said customer is dropped to EDGE.
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Considering you were with them for so long it would make sense for them to give you that deal but I only got about 3 years under my belt with them. Aw well, I'll give it another try anyways. Couldn't hurt right?
I've been with t-mobile for 3 months now...month to month everything plus plan. put my sim card in an old phone, added $10 web2go plan, swapped sim into vibrant, instantly needed to upgrade my data plan, I called t-mobile, when asked to say what I needed help with, I said 'cancel services', once I connected to a rep I told him I just added $10 plan, and now my vibrant wants me to upgrade again, he told me $10 more per month, so $20 data plan, now all is good, pretty simple
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I've been with t-mobile for 3 months now...month to month everything plus plan. put my sim card in an old phone, added $10 web2go plan, swapped sim into vibrant, instantly needed to upgrade my data plan, I called t-mobile, when asked to say what I needed help with, I said 'cancel services', once I connected to a rep I told him I just added $10 plan, and now my vibrant wants me to upgrade again, he told me $10 more per month, so $20 data plan, now all is good, pretty simple
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sounds good, will try
I went through customer loyalty. They gave me unlimited talk for $49.95 plus unlimited web and text for $35.00. That's $20 for unlimited web and $14.95 for unlimited texting. I quess that's a good deal. If not some one tell me! LOL! So I can call them again and haggle!
I know it is a sensitive topic, but I'm so frustrated with ATT, and was wondering if I could get any directions from you guys.
I bought for my wife new Aria (full price) so she can collaborate with me without using her brain. Few days after the change I realized att changed her unlimited data plan to tiered one. That move really pissed me off, and I had to switch her back to old nokia to preserve unlimited plan. I used to have an iphone with this plan (unlimited data for $15/month), and it looks like they are enforcing new, more expensive plans not only on new customers, but also on existing ones.
Enough said... I would like to get some hints on changing imei, so I get to keep my old plan...
Thanks
Not 100% sure but just swap the sim and it should work. ATT are assholes for doing away with unlimited data made the mistake of losing my unlimited data plan when the iPhone 4 was released thanks iphone!
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I upgraded to the aria And had the unlimited data plan transfered..if u just call customer service and tell them that u have been a loyal customer for a long time now and u should be able to keep the plan u have had..u should mention being grandfathered in, be polite and tell them if they can't help u then u might be looking at other carriers. U would be amazed at the things I have gotten for free or discounted by just calling and talking to customer service..if they say they can't do it ask to be transfered to to the person who can, u might be on the phone for a minute but u can get it done I promise u
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Post this same info on ATT's Facebook.
Same thing happened to me, I went from an iPhone to the Aria, and had the unlimited data removed, put a post on ATT's facebook, and within the day, I was talking to a guy who gave it back, credited my account, and gave me an additonal discount, to make my bill cheaper.
Interesting... if that's what they did to you then I may actually get somewhere. I just pulled the plug on one line to get G2 from tmo, and may threaten to close another line if they refuse to keep my plan...
If it comes to sim swap then it won't work with att branded phones. The only thing that may work (it worked with my old line) is to use unlock phone and ask them to update imei. They will mark your line as unlocked phone and never update your plan again. It worked for iphone...
Thx for your input.
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How much data do you actually use on your plan? I use my phone's data very regularly throughout the month and the most I've ever managed to use in a month was a gigabyte, making the $25 plan a cheaper solution than the $30 PDA Smartphone plan that preceded it.
I work in a retail position in which I handle AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers on a daily basis, and I have yet to meet anyone who uses more than 2GB a month, and some of these people use the phone as if they do not have a home internet service!
Thankfully AT&T has a very easy way of checking to see the monthly data usage you use, and even gives you a nice graph of the last six months of data usage, so you can decide for yourself what data plan is right for you.
"Unlimited" 3G data (w/ 5gb limit) for $30 on a smartphone is going the way of direct connect. Verizon will not be far behind with unveiling their new data plans and T-Mobile is talking about doing the same thing. I think once it is all said and done, we won't even see unlimited plans on 4G networks, especially once Sprint gets enough people back onto their service.
Just do the switch yourself. If you bought the phone full price you could have gotten it anywhere besides AT&T, swapped the SIM and been on the same plan. that's what i did coming from my Fuze. I just moved the SIM card to the new phone, and it worked flawlessly. kept my unlimited plan and everything.
as for data usage. When i had my Fuze i used maybe .5gig a month, but as soon as i got the Aria my usage spiked. I use consistently well over 2 gigs a month, breaking 4 gigs in August. I don't use it for tethering, i don't download huge video files, in fact i'm pretty tame with my phone usage. I'll be keeping my unlimited plan when i get a free upgrade in January.
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How much data do you actually use on your plan? I use my phone's data very regularly throughout the month and the most I've ever managed to use in a month was a gigabyte, making the $25 plan a cheaper solution than the $30 PDA Smartphone plan that preceded it.
I work in a retail position in which I handle AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile customers on a daily basis, and I have yet to meet anyone who uses more than 2GB a month, and some of these people use the phone as if they do not have a home internet service!
Thankfully AT&T has a very easy way of checking to see the monthly data usage you use, and even gives you a nice graph of the last six months of data usage, so you can decide for yourself what data plan is right for you.
"Unlimited" 3G data (w/ 5gb limit) for $30 on a smartphone is going the way of direct connect. Verizon will not be far behind with unveiling their new data plans and T-Mobile is talking about doing the same thing. I think once it is all said and done, we won't even see unlimited plans on 4G networks, especially once Sprint gets enough people back onto their service.
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You sound like att spokesperson addressing all dumbasses that purchased smartphone thinking it will make them look smarter. Your data usage statistics are off, and just because you ask your customers about their data usage, it doesn't mean it makes you right. I have observed the data usage by mobile devices in the enterprise I manage in the past 3 years. It seems people spend more time using internet driven apps when their experience improves. That pretty much means the faster mobile network becomes the more bandwidth is consumed. Another huge impact on data usage comes from pushed advertisement. People love free apps, but in order to support brightminded developers those apps have to display small banners. lets do quick math here... each banner is about 5KB. Popular apps rotate them in intervals of 10s, or display new ad whenever you go to new page. If your phone supports multitasking, for example new iphone, then if you don't close the app (for example weather app) it may actually keep rotating those ads in the background eating up your bandwidth. That's 5KB every 10s throughout billing cycle gives us total of about 1.3GB each month. That's based on single app that probably won't be running 24/7, but you may have few of such apps running at the same time, so this will definitely bring you close to that number.
Now, lets talk about 4G, and your assumption of all carriers going with tiered plans. I've been enjoying my G2 over HSPA+ so much. You tube videos are actually in visible quality now. Those very same videos over att 3g were just a joke, and waste of time. What do you think how much bandwidth those HQ videos consume? How about video calls? How about flash driven apps? Limiting users to tiered plans would mean blocking all those services, and worse it would bring technology development for mobile devices to a halt (at least in US).
Mobile carriers are facing very hard times. There is more bandwidth demand than they estimated. ATT for example chose greed, and decided to oversubscribe their infrastructure hoping iphone will save them. Verizon however, invested in their network to ensure they can handle the growth. They all should be thankful to Apple for stealing the name "smartphone", and introducing it to masses in the form of a dumbphone. That move changed the industry, and right now we're all paying for it through higher cost, development by spending more time rooting devices than coding new apps, and reliability. I love my mac, but I hate Jobs for the iphone so much...
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Just do the switch yourself. If you bought the phone full price you could have gotten it anywhere besides AT&T, swapped the SIM and been on the same plan. that's what i did coming from my Fuze. I just moved the SIM card to the new phone, and it worked flawlessly. kept my unlimited plan and everything.
as for data usage. When i had my Fuze i used maybe .5gig a month, but as soon as i got the Aria my usage spiked. I use consistently well over 2 gigs a month, breaking 4 gigs in August. I don't use it for tethering, i don't download huge video files, in fact i'm pretty tame with my phone usage. I'll be keeping my unlimited plan when i get a free upgrade in January.
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Aria is the only woman friendly (small) android phone that supports att 3G. I paid for it $300 (new). Legacy, which seems to be pretty much same phone is $200 more, and doesn't support att 3g frequencies. It looks like att is getting better in cat/mouse game. I may just have to threaten to leave, to get something done...
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any android phone is concidered by att as smartphone, and they require smartphone plan with it. My wife previously had unlocked nokia, so they did not know what kind of phone it was, and allowed regular $15/month unlimited data plan. Once you put your sim into device that they have in their database they enforce on you smartphone plan that's currently available. If her previous plan was unlimited data for smartphone ($25/month), then I agree, she would be able to keep it.
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any android phone is concidered by att as smartphone, and they require smartphone plan with it. My wife previously had unlocked nokia, so they did not know what kind of phone it was, and allowed regular $15/month unlimited data plan. Once you put your sim into device that they have in their database they enforce on you smartphone plan that's currently available. If her previous plan was unlimited data for smartphone ($25/month), then I agree, she would be able to keep it.
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didn't realize you came from a non-smartphone. I came from a Fuze (touch pro), so i was already on the $30 unlimited smartphone plan. I made the phone switch right after they announced the end of unlimited plans, and just swapped the phone on my own. Their system caught it, changed my profile on AT&T's site, but did nothing to the plan. I still have the unlimited plan, and will be keeping it as i foresee my usage staying hight.
Do what i did.
Change the sim into a dumb phone and turn it on, wait about an hour, then log into your account online. The options for the medianet packages will reappear. Remove the smartphone data plans then enable the medianet plan for unlimited data. After switch the sim back to the smart phone, if you get a text or email saying they detected your smartphone just call them up and tell them you do not have a smartphone and give them the IMEI number of the dumb phone and have them remove the data and restore the medianet.
I know its a bit much to lie to them but it is robery that pay as you go data is $2 per 1MB, $15 for 200MB and $25 for 2GB when the service sucks inside any building in lower Manhattan.
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I upgraded to the aria And had the unlimited data plan transfered..if u just call customer service and tell them that u have been a loyal customer for a long time now and u should be able to keep the plan u have had..u should mention being grandfathered in, be polite and tell them if they can't help u then u might be looking at other carriers. U would be amazed at the things I have gotten for free or discounted by just calling and talking to customer service..if they say they can't do it ask to be transfered to to the person who can, u might be on the phone for a minute but u can get it done I promise u
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this is what i did.
I called cancellation dept, and they still refused to roll my old plan back
Going back to my initial request... Any hints on changing imei?
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Is it doable at all?
I don't want to waste anymore time on it. Can some of the bright ones just tell me, if imei on this phone is "burned-in" or is it changeable via software?
Thanks
So... I've done more research, and seems people are saying it is illegal to change imei... Illegal???? I think, if changing/spoofing for criminal activities then it is illegal. Carriers clearly abuse that id to rip more money from people. Where is the government to protect us? I wouldn’t mind, if there was an alternative, but there is none. How come I pay full price for the smartphone, and can’t deny data plan? I want to roam through local hot spots offered for free by my cable provider to sync phone instead of X fuc…ing G!!!! I think it is time for people to start filing complaints with FCC...
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I don't want to waste anymore time on it. Can some of the bright ones just tell me, if imei on this phone is "burned-in" or is it changeable via software?
Thanks
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First off AT&T can see immediately when you switch, and to what phone you are using, as well as the kind of traffic, to categorize your phone... so spoofing an IMEI won't get you anywhere - the bandwidth usage from a regular phone vs a smartphone is miles apart.
Second and more importantly Unlimited data for smartphones ($30) vs unlimited data for a regular phone ($15) are two completely different plans. Your old nokia was clearly not a smartphone if you were paying $15 for unlimited data.
I had a blackberry 9700 and went to an Aria, smartphone to smartphone. They let me keep my same smartphone unlimited data plan.
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
You're SOL.
Your best bet is to talk to a manager in a retail store - as they are the only people who can work miracles. AT&T grants them special privileges, like allowing you to "early upgrade" (essentially re-start your contract) for a fee + regular advertised phone prices (way cheaper then a new phone at full retail price), and then allowing you to spend that "fee" as a credit on retail store accessories.
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First off AT&T can see immediately when you switch, and to what phone you are using, as well as the kind of traffic, to categorize your phone... so spoofing an IMEI won't get you anywhere - the bandwidth usage from a regular phone vs a smartphone is miles apart.
Second and more importantly Unlimited data for smartphones ($30) vs unlimited data for a regular phone ($15) are two completely different plans. Your old nokia was clearly not a smartphone if you were paying $15 for unlimited data.
I had a blackberry 9700 and went to an Aria, smartphone to smartphone. They let me keep my same smartphone unlimited data plan.
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
You're SOL.
Your best bet is to talk to a manager in a retail store - as they are the only people who can work miracles. AT&T grants them special privileges, like allowing you to "early upgrade" (essentially re-start your contract) for a fee + regular advertised phone prices (way cheaper then a new phone at full retail price), and then allowing you to spend that "fee" as a credit on retail store accessories.
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I'm afraid you're wrong, and this is why. I've had iphone 3gs on unlimited data plan ($15/month) for over a year. Before that I had Nokia N95 (which is still much smarter than iphone 4) on the same plan also for about a year.
You're saying they monitor bandwidth usage... How come they never picked up on my international SIP calls, and radio streaming? and yes, spoofing will get me somewhere. ATT holds only imeis from att branded/approved phones. If my imei is not found they assume it is simple multimedia phone. How do I know that? I talked to cancellation dept manager two days ago, and was ensured I will get my plan back once my imei doesn't match any of those from att smartphone lineup.
dexmix said:
Bottom line you can't switch from a regular phone unlimited data to a smartphone unlimited data plan and keep the same plan.
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So what you are telling me is that basically, you want people on here to help you do something which is admittedly illegal in many counties, so your new smart phone appears as a multimedia phone and you can pay less and keep your unlimited data plan.
*scratches head*
edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
dexmix said:
So what you are telling me is that basically, you want people on here to help you do something which is admittedly illegal in many counties, so your new smart phone appears as a multimedia phone and you can pay less and keep your unlimited data plan.
*scratches head*
edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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Well, not exactly. I've had that plan since gen 1 iphone, which was running on Edge, and three months later I switched to n95 3g. Basically I'm trying to retain my old data plan, and that's because I have not received any special treatment, or services in order to pay more... If they rolled out LTE, and use that for justification then I would agree.
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edit: you would have been better off just getting an Aria for free with a 2yr contract and then paying for a 2G plan.
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Better off????? 2 year contract means locked in with old technology. Those contracts don't do any good to people. By signing, you let att screw you any way they want. You can't walk away, or negotiate. If I wasn't tied up with the contract when att announced new plans, then I would switch to verizon long time ago... If you are real smartphone user then you better off buying unlocked phone, and use it the way it was designed to use without extra fees (tethering $60 ), but if you are one of those guys thinking "smartphone will make me look smarter", then your best bet is to buy discounted phone with the contract.