Can i use scratch remover for plastic as Displex for polishing touch pro external screen?
I think the Displex site specifically says don't use their products for touchscreens.
I just checked on Google and some people have tried using it with good results (NO EXAMPLES FOR FUZE) on resistive touchscreens. Because it removes material it may change the touch properties at the spot being polished or may mess it up completely.
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I think the Displex site specifically says don't use their products for touchscreens.
I just checked on Google and some people have tried using it with good results (NO EXAMPLES FOR FUZE) on resistive touchscreens. Because it removes material it may change the touch properties at the spot being polished or may mess it up completely.
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thx but i think touch pro's screen is different than other touchscreens.
i think it is similar to htc touch and it has two separate screen parts (screen and touch panel).
i don't know... yet...
i've send email to displex manufacturer (now in Germany) and asked them about this, in detail .but only response i got is : "we do not have application for that". I don't know what they meant...
Display isn't different say between a FUZE/TouchPro Kaiser or TYTN. All resitive - pressure triggers event. Tilt2 still uses same technology. Capacitive is whats in the TOUCH HD2 or Apple Iphone. Uses a piece of glass to detect current not pressure which I think still has some coating on the glass.
The resistive uses pressure points in the digitizer. Displex or any polish removes a slight amount of material from the plastic so the resistive capabilities may be different in certain sections versus others. Calibration won't help because the thickness won't be uniform in theory.
If the screen is pretty bad you could try it although I've seen sites where someone has used it and messed up his touchscreen. There is also something called iDrops which polishes the Apple's screen/case. Someone on the Kaiser board attempted to use it and it worked without messing up the screen. I think Displex may just be too harsh.
Displex sucks...
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Display isn't different say between a FUZE/TouchPro Kaiser or TYTN. All resitive - pressure triggers event. Tilt2 still uses same technology. Capacitive is whats in the TOUCH HD2 or Apple Iphone. Uses a piece of glass to detect current not pressure which I think still has some coating on the glass.
The resistive uses pressure points in the digitizer. Displex or any polish removes a slight amount of material from the plastic so the resistive capabilities may be different in certain sections versus others. Calibration won't help because the thickness won't be uniform in theory.
If the screen is pretty bad you could try it although I've seen sites where someone has used it and messed up his touchscreen. There is also something called iDrops which polishes the Apple's screen/case. Someone on the Kaiser board attempted to use it and it worked without messing up the screen. I think Displex may just be too harsh.
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Displex does not work, It didnt damage my screen but it didnt remove the scratches either, didnt even change them i used a whole tube on my screen still all the scratches were there (I didnt scratch it I bought it used =D). Also tried it on my brothers Nokia which is not a touch screen he has loads of those really light scuff scratches and it still didnt work? So yeah its a wate of money.
displex is a piece of ****.
It does not make less visible scrathes even on CD roms, plastic glasses watches and any type of mobile phone's housing lens.
It works a bit only on plastic housing because it can losly remove polish and paint.
Do not use it on housing more and more so no losses of clour you live. But try it any type of plastic or plastic covered screens.
Do not try it on glass so do not try it on capacitive screen because dottes and scrathes become more visible (rainbow effect).
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Hi guys!
I have a little area in my Jam's screen where there is some scratches...
I think they are caused by the normal but frequently use of the pen in that area.
How can I polish the area or all the Jam's screen?
Try going to a watch shop and steal a tube of watch face cleaner. Good as new.
Also you could try the ipod face cleaning kits, but they may be abrasive.
You should use a screen protector though!
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vijay555 said:
You should use a screen protector though!
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on ebay you can get ipod screen scratch removal kits..not sure whether it is suited to PDA screens though but it works well for Nokia phones...but those screens are hard screens unlike the Magician's which is touch responsive and using this scratch removal might affect screen alignment...
I used some TFT screen wipes (made for cleaning LCD monitors).
It leaves some residue but once that's wiped off, it's good.
Actually, can just put a good quality screen protector on it...you won't notice the scratches....and you will prevent any new ones
I was wondering if there was any place I could get a replacement screen cover, but not the entire screen (which looks to run ~$70). It seems like there is a piece of plastic over the screen itself and I was wondering if there is a way to replace JUST that piece of plastic.
Mine is scratched to hell.
Thanks.
edit: Is this what I want: http://cgi.ebay.com/TOUCH-SCREEN-FO...yZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?
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I was wondering if there was any place I could get a replacement screen cover, but not the entire screen (which looks to run ~$70). It seems like there is a piece of plastic over the screen itself and I was wondering if there is a way to replace JUST that piece of plastic.
Mine is scratched to hell.
Thanks.
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I thought the screen was one unit. I haven't heard of a cover over the screen besides the one that comes on the phone from the factory, which I removed before using the phone. I've had my tilt for about 6 months or longer and dont have any scratches on the screen, well some tiny light ones but then again the phone gets a ride in my pocket alone without anything in there to damage it.
edit:... oh you wanted the actual touch screen... buy the one in your link :dunno:
I guess the question is - if your screen is scratched - which piece is actually the top most? I assume it is the digitizer/touch screen layer.
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I guess the question is - if your screen is scratched - which piece is actually the top most? I assume it is the digitizer/touch screen layer.
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Yeah, thats how most touch screens are setup if not all. They're just the touch sensor matrix which is clear infront of the LCD panel.
i got a screen cover with my tytn 2 which im sure are very cheap to pick up less then $1 but i mainly have a problem with dust getting under the side of my screen im sure you all know where i mean
im sure a screen protector costs less than £1 i got one through with my phone but i couldnt put in on without bubbles so i left it and i have noticed i have scratches on my screen being left alone aside my wallet in the pocket of my jeans. but im sure a good polish with dvd cleaner or even brasso (works wonders on psp screens) could clean up those scratches... i recommend dvd cleaner cause brasso would make a mess and also get down the sides of the screen like random crap does anyway... i found a part of a leaf there a few times you would have thought such a big opening would have been sealed my htc?
Having replaced my LCD, I can tell you that the plastic screen is indeed part of the LCD, and is not a removable component.
I have it my hand right now, and it seems there's no way to break apart the lcd into its components (lcd, digitizer, and plastic).
If you're determined to fix it, you'd have to buy a new screen.
if we speaking about the thin film, i recommend you either buy original htc or 3m product the size is 2.8"
the dvd cleaner is great idea to clean as one of the boys suggested
buy an anti-glare - so u can use it outdoor natural light conditions
get a rough texture if u use the stylus for handwriting
these are some tips and good luck man
Is it the same kind of touchscreen as all the other HTC models have or is it like the iPhone....
The onlu thing about the iphone is it's touch screen of hard glass coated with stuff to make it touch sensitive.
This looks to be hard glass too but it's very hard to see on video is there anybody who knows if it's hard glass or the same kind of touch screen as the Touch pro has...
Watskeburt,
Well the French chick in the video decribed the HD as having a better touchscreen than the diamond and it bieng almost as good as the Iphones. Although the Iphones touch screen is capacitive.
The Hd's touch screen is still pressure sensitive.
The HD's touch screen will be the same as the Diamond and Touch Pro. As the guy in the video was saying it was sensitive, he scrolled along the bottom of TF3D and it stopped going with his finger and treated it as a tap later down the line of icons. No touch screen can compare to a capacitive screen, the iPhone and G1 will always be more sensitive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc
Skip to like 1:25, as he says it's a very sensitive screen it doesn't even track his finger along the bottom.
The screen isn't multitouch compatible. if that's what you were asking.
No i was just wondering what kind of glass was used.
Is it lik ethe iPhone. Regular hardened glass with a touch sensitive coating ( that wears off after a while i know)
or is it the same old touchscreen that we are used to. You know sevral layers of thin glass and plastic that's so easy to scratch and break......
Well, "scratch" and "break" are relative, IMO. The iPhone's glass screen may have a more durable feel under normal finger usage but can shatter more easily when dropped, whereas plastics might feel cheaper but have a bit more give for better durability under sudden shock.
Resistance to scratches will depend wholly on the type of scratch abuse and choice of screen protector.
As far as the glass+capacitive coating (on the iPhone) goes, let me say that resistive touchscreens are also susceptible to damage, namely the "oil patch" where the touch-sensitive layer is subject to too much pressure and "breaks" (not immediately, but over time it loses its accuracy/sensitivity) and discoloration similar to an oil patch appears. This has happened to me on my Touch Pro, and others on their Diamonds, and I suspect it might happen on the HD as well (since it is also a flush-mounted touch-resistive display).
The capacitance screen of the iPhone also means it cannot be used with anything other than a finger, i.e. no stylus. This means that every interface has to be sized accordingly for finger user rather than being able to be smaller and more detailed for stylus use.
It's true that in the french video the menu scroller does not keep up with his finger. However, he is brushing the menu very lightly in order to demonstrate that the pressure threshold is much lower. No, it does not equal a capacitive screen, but he does specifically state that it is different to that of the diamond in terms of sensitivity. The diamond requires a lot of pressure, and you don't need a capacitive screen just to have it respond to much less pressure.
capacitance screen for winmo?
I wonder whether it would be possible for a capacitance screen to work with WinMo? I am massively jealous of the easy usability of my friend's iPhone, but at the end of the day, I use winmo programs. Capacitance screens feels like a superior technology - it just works better with your fingers
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I wonder whether it would be possible for a capacitance screen to work with WinMo? I am massively jealous of the easy usability of my friend's iPhone, but at the end of the day, I use winmo programs. Capacitance screens feels like a superior technology - it just works better with your fingers
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I disagree about the superior technology. As was said earlier in this thread you can't use a stylus witha captive screen or gloved fingers come to think about it. What about a combination of the 2, that would be superior tech.
I can tell you that the screen is really great. better than i thought.
It is still a resitive screen, but it feels like glass, especially after you put the screen protector which comes with the device on the screen. an as far as it goes, i think its very scratch resistent, even against fingernails and so.
It doesn't even feel like you are pressign the screen, its much more like the iphone glass display and comes very close to it.
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I disagree about the superior technology. As was said earlier in this thread you can't use a stylus witha captive screen or gloved fingers come to think about it. What about a combination of the 2, that would be superior tech.
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Sorry, but it is a common misconception that capacitive touch screens cannot work with stlylii. (largely attributed to iphone not requiring or shipping with a stylus)
Have a look here
http://www.fashionfunky.com/2008/08/japanese_iphone_stylus.php
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/a31f/?cpg=ab
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Sorry, but it is a common misconception that capacitive touch screens cannot work with stlylii. (largely attributed to iphone not requiring or shipping with a stylus)
Have a look here
http://www.fashionfunky.com/2008/08/japanese_iphone_stylus.php
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/a31f/?cpg=ab
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Ok Ok. You can use a stylus with a capacitive screen but it has to be charged i.e produce electrons. On HTC devices you can use anything thats at hand.
Like i said before i like the feeling of a capacitive screen but it does lack in key areas. A combination of the 2 screens would be the future, but i'm sure there are technical limitations to such a project.
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Ok Ok. You can use a stylus with a capacitive screen but it has to be charged i.e produce electrons. On HTC devices you can use anything thats at hand.
Like i said before i like the feeling of a capacitive screen but it does lack in key areas. A combination of the 2 screens would be the future, but i'm sure there are technical limitations to such a project.
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this is way off topic , but what you want is already out here - http://www.touchscreens.com/intro-touchtypes.html
fallenczar said:
this is way off topic , but what you want is already out here - http://www.touchscreens.com/intro-touchtypes.html
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Now that my friend is the future! Lol
Sorry to all if we are going off topic
I wear leather gloves when it is cold and I am happy that I would not need to take them off to use my phone and freeze my fingers when outside. I have seen iphone users wearing gloves taking them off to use the phone. I guess another perk to using pressure sensitive screen - warmer hands
seeing no body answered OP's question, but all came at a very close tangent, i'll take a stab at it.
HD's screen is not glass, it cannot be glass like iphone because HD requires it screen to "bend" and "depress" a little at the specific spot so the second layer can sense the pressure. the first//top layer is only a screen, touch/pressure panel is beneath that.
do you definitely need to put a screen protector on or is it going to be pretty scratch resistant without?
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do you definitely need to put a screen protector on or is it going to be pretty scratch resistant without?
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I didn't test ist without the screen protector (but the one which is in the package is very good and invisible, as the edges are perfectly cut.)
With the Screen protector of the packages, it seems very scratch resistant and fells like the glass iphone screen
did the screen protector go on easy or do you have the bubbling problem?, this is the main reason i dont bother with screen protectors.
Before I got my HD2, all I read was that iphones dont work with gloves due to the capacitive screen, I thought bummer when it snows here the same will apply to the HD2.
Having just come from a snowball fight, and taken loads of pics in the process, I was surprised that I could whith my huge thick gloves.
My question is, is this the same for all capactive screens?
maybe this is the reason why the touch screen doesn't work proper in many cases - it's too sensible, there is a too big electric field, therefore when using the virtual keyboard it happens that an other letter is displayed on the screen than you've pressed.
Just a thought but...... won't the tip of woolly/cotton gloves scratch the screen?
Well, mine sure doesn't. And I wish it would! I go to work on my bike and this is the season where I have to wear thick gloves. I'm afflicted like many of us by the "music stops" bug and I have to stop, take off my gloves and starts the player again. It's a pain!
It depends on the material of your gloves. As I mentioned in my tips thread, thin leather gloves DO work on capacitive screens such as HD2 and iPhone. However I also have another pair of leather gloves which have like a knitted wool lining which is quite thick (the lining not the leather) and was suprised to see them work too. I think it is probably because the wool lining holds the static from my finger that allows it to work. I think. I am not an expert in how capacitive screens work. I can happily type an sms without having to remove my gloves in this cold snowy weather.
Generally the thinner the glove material the better. Don't waste your money on these special capacitive finger tip gloves. There are far more better looking gloves out there. Just choose thin leather gloves to be certain they will work.
Should have mentioned that these arnt woolly but polyester with a thick inner lining,
Maybe its the reason for all those extra diagonal lines on the screen??
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Just a thought but...... won't the tip of woolly/cotton gloves scratch the screen?
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really?? a knife, a scissor, keys wont scratch the screen but the wooly/cotton glove will????
conductive thread
today i received about a metre of conductive thread from ebay. (under 3 quid)
initial test show that this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-A-Glove-Work-With-A-Touch-Screen/ is going to work really well.
my gloves are however massive so i'm going to get a higher quality, thinner pair and then with a few stitches i'll be nice and cosy.
My HD2 was developing an issue with it's screen, white patches were appearing. So I sent it off to O2 to be repaired, and while the problem has been fixed, it's been returned with a non-glass screen with no diamond shaped etching on it like I had on the original.
Anyone else had this?
what do you mean by diamond shaped etching? and is it still multitouch?
If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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Are there any other notable differences? Is it more easily scratched, less transparent, more reflective, etc.?
If so, then yes, you should definitely complain.
as plastic is alot more prone to scratches, i would complain...
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If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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I understand this must be really annoying for you, but tbh I find it really interesting.
Is your new screen still capacitive? Does a normal stylus or other object still work on it? (ie. is it still resistive?)
I never realised you could get multitouch plastic screens....
i would definitely file a complain. you bought your hd2 with a glass screen and its weird that its plastic. yes there are diamond shaped etchings in the glass screen.
so all capacitive screens should be glass covered? hmm... interesting.
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If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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I had mine repaired and yes, the lines seem to be gone. I think this has to do with the improved hardware and not because its plastic.
f*ck that. complain, you bought the hd2 and you want it back the same way you bought it.
WHOA!
This is either a HUGE insight to something about the amount of screen blotches being received.
or
You are dealing with a crappy fix.
I honestly have never heard of a PLASTIC CAPACITIVE LENS!?!?!
Will this be a common resolution to HD2 shatter/blotch?
there are capacative screens with plastic face...
the samsung f480 has one either
Hmmm
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I understand this must be really annoying for you, but tbh I find it really interesting.
Is your new screen still capacitive? Does a normal stylus or other object still work on it? (ie. is it still resistive?)
I never realised you could get multitouch plastic screens....
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Battle to the finish.
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I had mine repaired and yes, the lines seem to be gone. I think this has to do with the improved hardware and not because its plastic.
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That's good to know, maybe I'm wrong about it being plastic although it doesn't feel the same. Is your's definitely still glass?
Why not post some pics here ? Wanna see it. Best would be to do the pics in various angles to a light source to see what consistency it has ............
I noticed the diamond etchings on my HD2 straight out of the box brand new, still glass though.
may be we should look at tmob us screen and see it's type
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there are capacative screens with plastic face...
the samsung f480 has one either
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All capacitivie screens are made of glass - or else the technology wouldn't work since its basically a grid with electric current covering the screen, and this grid you disturb with your fingers. Plastic is NOT leading electricity so it would not work. And btw, the Samsung F480 has a Resistive touchscreen.
That's not strictly true. Neither glass nor plastic conduct electricity - but both act as a dielectric for electrostatic fields. A capacitive touch screen can theoretically work with either plastic or glass (or even air), because capacitive touch doesn't actually require that you touch the screen.
glass conduct electricity
Strictly speaking, hardly anything conducts no electricity, it's just a question of a material's resistance and therefore the amount.