Wifi lan without internet? - HD2 General

Hey.. i was wondering if i can make the HDs wifi router to a local LAN ROUTER ONLY.
I will use the phone as a local router to a test environment. In that i mean that i will use the phone as a test router where many clients can connect to, without using my mobilecompany 3g/whatever line.
When you create the wifi router now, you have to select which line i will use with the router.. but i cant deselect, so it only makes a virtual LAN with no internet connection.. Is that possible?

Alfetch said:
Hey.. i was wondering if i can make the HDs wifi router to a local LAN ROUTER ONLY.
I will use the phone as a local router to a test environment. In that i mean that i will use the phone as a test router where many clients can connect to, without using my mobilecompany 3g/whatever line.
When you create the wifi router now, you have to select which line i will use with the router.. but i cant deselect, so it only makes a virtual LAN with no internet connection.. Is that possible?
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The first problem you have here, is that you can only connect 1 device to the wifi router, not multiple devices. Secondly, it does only route wifi, so I doubt you'd be able to create a LAN even if you could connect more than 1 device.
Have you looked at WMWifiRouter? (http://www.wmwifirouter.com/)
It's not free, but there is a trial version, and I believe it allows you to connect more than 1 device at a time. It would still be an internet connection, but everything would be assigned an IP address from the HD2, so you should be able to use it as a LAN regardless.
Also, it may be possible to use WMWifiRouter with the phone in Airplane mode, so that would obviously give you a LAN with no internet access. Again, you can't do this with the default router, but you may be able to do it with WMWifiRouter.

ok well..
Well... thats not right..
I had 3 computers connected to it today. So the thing that you only can connect 1 to the wifirouter, is sadly wrong...
I tried the thing putting it on airplane mode, but it doesn't work.. thats why i asked here. hehe.
I'll try the software you said

Alfetch said:
Well... thats not right..
I had 3 computers connected to it today. So the thing that you only can connect 1 to the wifirouter, is sadly wrong...
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Okay, I take that back then. I've never actually tried it myself - that was something I read on here. Goes to show how trustworthy advice on here can be lol

Heheh
Found a crap solution. just create a new connection under connections which doesn't have any relation to your mobilecompany.

bah
Alfetch said:
Heheh
Found a crap solution. just create a new connection under connections which doesn't have any relation to your mobilecompany.
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well that didn't work either.. hehe.. And the problem you suggested is a "copy" of what the HDs already installed wifi router.. So you dont got that posibility.

Alfetch said:
well that didn't work either.. hehe.. And the problem you suggested is a "copy" of what the HDs already installed wifi router.. So you dont got that posibility.
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Yeah, I only suggested that really because I thought that the in-built version could only be used for 1 device at a time.
The only thing I can think of now is to set a proxy for the internet connection on your phone, either a fake one, or a real one that simply blocks HTTP requests.
Worth a try?

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Yup. Ill try that

i'm actually not sure how to do that.. can you tell me how?

Alfetch said:
i'm actually not sure how to do that.. can you tell me how?
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Yes mate. Go to Settings (or Settings tab, Menu, All Settings) and Connections, Connections, and then "Set up my proxy server". I just tried setting it to my home PC (which has no proxy server running on it) and it allows the data connection, but returns 404 errors for any HTTP requests.
I've just tested this and I get 404 errors when making HTTP requests on my laptop. It seems to do what you need.
Hope it helps mate

GREAT! I will test it thanks m8

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WiFi

Don't seem to be able to connect to the internet or exchange server via WiFi.
Can only get data via mobile network (orange)
Is this normal ?
stevep999 said:
Don't seem to be able to connect to the internet or exchange server via WiFi.
Can only get data via mobile network (orange)
Is this normal ?
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Steve
wifi on hero worked perfectly for me. The problem must be unique to your phone/config.
If you try to go to an Orange bookmarked site then it errors - these are the free pages on Orange, which rely on an Orange connection.
Other than that I can browse the web over WiFi just fine.
Vince
Cheers, will factory reboot tonightand try again.
vadonald said:
If you try to go to an Orange bookmarked site then it errors - these are the free pages on Orange, which rely on an Orange connection.
Other than that I can browse the web over WiFi just fine.
Vince
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Yes I noticed that. Pretty sloppy from Orange that. There should be a 'what if' type proxy situation for wifi vs gprs/hsdpa.
But do we expect any less, they are only a phone provider FFS!
OK, have factory reset, still no internet access through wifi, any ideas ? ?
Do you get any wifi's coming up when you go to wireless controls -> Wifi settings?
if not, are you sure your router is set to discoverable?
I get a connection to the router and its shows on the hero as connected but all applications just say I have no network connection. Flick the wifi off then all back to normal :-(
stevep999 said:
I get a connection to the router and its shows on the hero as connected but all applications just say I have no network connection. Flick the wifi off then all back to normal :-(
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Sounds like an addressing issue to me. There is no static ip definition on the mobile is there? Or possibly a dns config issue.
Sounds like osi layers 1+2 (ish) are working but layer 3>failing.
It's not a layer 8 issue is it?
stevep999 said:
I get a connection to the router and its shows on the hero as connected but all applications just say I have no network connection. Flick the wifi off then all back to normal :-(
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Have you just tried that 1 wifi spot? Try another and determine whether it is just the phone, or the connection between your router and your phone.
Not got access to another wifi at mo, laptop, winmob device ( ), wii all connecting fine
stevep999 said:
Not got access to another wifi at mo, laptop, winmob device ( ), wii all connecting fine
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I definitely think you should try it out on another access point just because I have seen issues like this in the past where a device and router just haven't got on. Obviously this isn't a "solution" but if you have difficulty elsewhere, it probably points to an issue with the device itself.
Another thing you may like to try is manually changing the channel for your WiFi network - again, I've had issues like this in the past when a particular device has real trouble when the WiFi was set to certain channels.
Regards,
Dave
How ironic, orange hero, with orange livebox on orange internet DON'T WORK !
Swapped to a Belkin N router, connects to wireless and all works fine
One less issue with the Hero
Thanks everyone

how to share my wifi internet from mobile to computer?

I have an old laptop which is not having any wifi hardware..and I can connect to internet using my wm6.5 on elf... so I was thinking like can I share wifi internet from my mobile to laptop using usb? I know there is an option of internet sharing but that uses my dataplan and that I don't want to use. does someone know how to do this?
You mean using your phone as a wireless card?
You can Check out http://www.wmwifirouter.com/, but im not too sure whether this is the right one you are talking about.
This is one of the company which does this for really long time, and they have a thread in the XDA community.
Yes exactly... i have wifi router at my home using that i browse net over my elf. now i want to use my phone as a wireless card so that my laptop also connects to the net through the wifi router...
and wmwifirouter is not a freeware and i dont want to use it exactly...
Bingo.
Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047
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Bingo.
Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047
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Thanks for the effort jeremy89632 but i had stumbled upon it earlier but i got stuck while running it. everything is OK but it is not connecting to internet
Oh.
Mmm, Im not too sure than.
Why not you try to use your phone to surf?
ICS Control will do the Job for you, if you configure it correctly
On the Public interface select your Phone Wi-FI card: in my case TNETW1211
On the Private Interface your USB: RNDISFN1
Set the Private IP to what ever option you want
then Start ICS
and connect your phone to the PC, once Active sync is connected. go back to ICS control and go to the DHCP tab and hit refresh you will see the IP that ICS will try to give to your computer.
Then just go to your IP settings on your computer change the IP settings of your Phone conecction to what ever ICS is giving you...
Example if you selected private ip 192.168.2.1 this ip will be your gateway, the ip of the pc will be whatever ICS assined like 192.168.2.57, network mask will be 255.255.255.0 and DNS you can use 4.2.2.2 or the ip of your phone again 192.168.2.1
Hope I didn't make the mess bigger but that's how it works for a fact cause I'm using it righ now.
Good Luck.
Thanks Jeremy89632 and lbrenes... actually i made it to work... ICS was great... lebrenes u are correct, i figured the samething and i m now surfing using my old laptop connected through my HTC....
Thanks for ur efforts...
Cheers!!!
even I have a same problm ..
I have a samsung galaxy s2 .. with jelly bean .. with wifi I want to share it with my PC .. has it doest have wifi .. so please help me ..

Share home internet connexion in Wifi

Hi everyone,
Today, I try to share my ADSL internet connexion in Wifi via my HD2 but in vain.
What I'd like to do is to share the internet connexion from my PC to my HD2 with USB cable and then to share this connexion by Wifi to others PC or PPC. i-e, to use my HD2 as a really router-wifi will do.
Do you guys have already done this?
thank you
grorel said:
Hi everyone,
Today, I try to share my ADSL internet connexion in Wifi via my HD2 but in vain.
What I'd like to do is to share the internet connexion from my PC to my HD2 with USB cable and then to share this connexion by Wifi to others PC or PPC. i-e, to use my HD2 as a really router-wifi will do.
Do you guys have already done this?
thank you
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You can't do it mate. The wifi router on the HD2 will ONLY route its own data connection. You need a wifi router for you want. Sorry.
ok,
but anyone knows a software which can handle it? or at least, is it possible to share the connexion from the computer to the HD2? Or do I have to forget about it right now?
grorel said:
ok,
but anyone knows a software which can handle it? or at least, is it possible to share the connexion from the computer to the HD2? Or do I have to forget about it right now?
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Sorry mate, but yeah. Forget about it. I'd say that I'd eat my phone if anyone ever finds a way of doing that, but I just can't bring myself to even imagine eating my lovely HD2
thank you
brain cleared !
Hi dude, are you ready to eat your lovely HD2
I found that software : wmwifirouter (actually someone told me to use it)
and it does exactly what I want.
Here is the tip to made the connexion working : link
there is a 21 days trial version and then the software is 19.99€
I want to see the video of you eating your phone on youtube... (Just kidiing )
PS : since I am a new user, I can't post outside links. Where can I ask to change that ? thank you
You can only connect one device at a time though..
grorel said:
Hi dude, are you ready to eat your lovely HD2
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You'll have to settle with me being happy to be corrected mate. I'm about to eat something, but it's more likely to be made by my mate at Subway than by HTC!
grorel said:
since I am a new user, I can't post outside links. Where can I ask to change that ? thank you
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That changes when you've made a few more posts. Not sure exactly how many, but it's not a lot. (I've got 7 in my head for some reason, but it may be 10).
How to share my ADSL internet connection using Wifi to my HD2?
To use my PC as access point?
mcdoc said:
How to share my ADSL internet connection using Wifi to my HD2?
To use my PC as access point?
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There's only 8 posts above yours. Surely that's not too much for you to read yourself? The answer is 3 posts up from yours.
Yes, but i don't understand quite well. Corect me if i am wrong, WMWifiRouter is software for Cell phone, I need software for PC or an explanation how to. My PC is an acces point. Under Win 7 i created a wireless network connection (I have Asus P5K-E WI FI AP MB) and connected my HD2 but when i start opera i get error massage about connection.
Well, I did it. Now I can connect to PC by my Leo and browse internet through my PC WiFi connection and ADSL modem
No extra charge!
It is quite simple under win 7.
One should first make bridge connecton between Local area connection and Wireless network connection. IP adresses should be configured manualy.
In phone first activate Wi-Fi, go to advanced>>change network>>computer-to-computer>>network adapters>>Broadcom802.11 DHD Network adapter and set IP according to PC. Then go to connections and set IP also.
You can even do simpler, you just need to right-click on your LAN connection, select properties, advanced, click share connection, connect your wifi connection in the dropdown below if it appears. IP can be dynamic in this case, the PC willmake a DHCP server.
It's not what the original poster wanted to do though. He wanted to use the HD2 basically as an "outgoing" USB wifi adapter for a PC that doesn't have one.
Nope. I don't see that dropdown menu. But, never mind. I have one question for you, I can't browse directory structure of my PC from phone or to connect to PC as a client. Is there any program for that, or an explanation. Tnx.

at home wifi internet connection problems...

Alright alright shoot me if this has already been asked or mentioned or thought of by anyone here or any one who you ever knew. I've been searching the entire net, the XDA forums have nothin on the subject (the the search function and i arent seeing eye to eye.).
My problem is this,
I am at home, connecting to my router, and that connects fine. But i am not connected to the internet. On my PC there is an option if i want to connect to the network, and then the internet. But in the HD2, there is no option to connect, Im only connecting ot the network, but not internet access.
went to a buddys house, he got his wi fi up and running in a matter of seconds, he did exactly as i have done, located the connection, typed the pass, and that was that.
but i cannot even find a place that asks me for an internect connection after i have connected to the network, nothing there.
And i cannot find any help on this subject.
i hope you get me if not, then dont bother. i am tired of reading mountains of crap that has nothing to do with my problem.
thanks in advance
appologies for my tone, just a little frustrated right now.
ah, btw, my 3g connect works fine. just not the wifi.
Once the network is connected there's nothing more to do to get internet access. At home, does it take a long time for the HD2 to connect to the network (arrows moving on the wifi icon more than ~5secs)? If you co to connection manager -> wifi -> advanced -> advanced tab, what IP do you have?
Well it connects to 'alice-wlan' really quickly, and automatically.
but there is still no internet connection. i think its a router setting problem, because on my pc i also have to connect first to alice.wlan (does it autoimatically) but then i have to manually connect to the internet (broadband)... i do not knwo how to change this.
i dont know what IP i have, you mean as a router?
correction,
now it connects to the router quite slow, if it does at all, then drops it almost immediatly.
saintnickxiii said:
i dont know what IP i have, you mean as a router?
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Just tell me the IP address that is displayed where I explained.
saintnickxiii said:
on my pc i also have to connect first to alice.wlan (does it autoimatically) but then i have to manually connect to the internet (broadband)..
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that makes me think you are using the old style routers that don't hold the broadband always open. meaning either the router or the pc need to dial the adsl. usually you put the connection details into the router and it handles it,,
just thinking out loud.
Hmm actually now you say that I've been at someone's place recently where they had an ADSL plan that was time-billed, so they had to open a browser and login before being able to access the web...
saintnickxiii said:
but then i have to manually connect to the internet (broadband)...
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Could you please say what you have to do for this?
it says 0.0.0.0 hmmm i dont know if that right tho
Wait until the arrows stop moving on the wifi icon, and it whould then say something more relevant.
still nothing, 0.0.0.0 ...
kilrah said:
Hmm actually now you say that I've been at someone's place recently where they had an ADSL plan that was time-billed, so they had to open a browser and login before being able to access the web...
Could you please say what you have to do for this?
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well, in win7 i alice connects automatically, then theres a broadband (internet) tab, i click on that, and it runs the use/pass and connects.

WI-FI Problem

Hi All,
i switch wi-fi on and the phone find the access point and connect to it. But it doesn't navigate to the net or market or anything else. Otherwise if I use the 3G it works perfectly. Just try to initialize it twice. Same problem.
Some suggestions?
alfa71omega said:
Hi All,
i switch wi-fi on and the phone find the access point and connect to it. But it doesn't navigate to the net or market or anything else. Otherwise if I use the 3G it works perfectly. Just try to initialize it twice. Same problem.
Some suggestions?
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Hmmm, could be a multitude of different things. A few questions:
1 Are you rooted?
2 What security settings do you have on your router?
3 Have you ever been able to connect to the web thru your router?
Answer them and I will try to help.
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misterzak said:
Hmmm, could be a multitude of different things. A few questions:
1 Are you rooted?
2 What security settings do you have on your router?
3 Have you ever been able to connect to the web thru your router?
Answer them and I will try to help.
Sent from my DHD
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Hi MrZak,
1) phone is not rooted, unboxed 16 hours ago;
3) I always use the router with a mac and a pc on windows xp
2) I do have some doubt about the router (it's a cisco linksys). Even iPad has several connection problem BUT, i tried a different router last night (3Com) and it doesn't work too while iPad works fine.
Firstly, update the phone from:
Settings / About Phone / System Software Updates
If that doesn't help, try a factory reset.
Also, when you go into your router settings is the phone showing up under devices?
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misterzak said:
Firstly, update the phone from:
Settings / About Phone / System Software Updates
If that doesn't help, try a factory reset.
Also, when you go into your router settings is the phone showing up under devices?
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No update available
Factory reset done
I have to check
alfa71omega said:
No update available
Factory reset done
I have to check
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It could be a simple IP problem. Try with static address and see if you can access your LAN and internet.
tkolev said:
It could be a simple IP problem. Try with static address and see if you can access your LAN and internet.
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It doesn't work BUT... I tried with the 3com router this morning doing a simple "restore default" in browser web. It worked. I tried to do the same at home with the Cisco Linksys router and... it doesn't work. Could it be the router?
alfa71omega said:
It doesn't work BUT... I tried with the 3com router this morning doing a simple "restore default" in browser web. It worked. I tried to do the same at home with the Cisco Linksys router and... it doesn't work. Could it be the router?
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Can you please try to put a static address and ping it from the local network. Preferably ping it from a computer that is connected to the router via cable rather than wireless. If you can ping it, the problem is definately with the router. Also please check if you have MAC security enabled on the router. If you do, you'll have to add the DHD's MAC address to the table.
EDIT: Or you can try to install ping from the market and see if you can ping your router.
tkolev said:
Can you please try to put a static address and ping it from the local network. Preferably ping it from a computer that is connected to the router via cable rather than wireless. If you can ping it, the problem is definately with the router. Also please check if you have MAC security enabled on the router. If you do, you'll have to add the DHD's MAC address to the table.
EDIT: Or you can try to install ping from the market and see if you can ping your router.
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I installed the pinger from the market. Anything to ping. It states "WIFI network may block outgoing ping request". Simply WiFi on the phone doesn't work . Any suggestion?
alfa71omega said:
I installed the pinger from the market. Anything to ping. It states "WIFI network may block outgoing ping request". Simply WiFi on the phone doesn't work . Any suggestion?
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Try connecting through an unsecured network like some coffee's hotspot and if it still doesn't work, it's faulty. Until then, it's more likely to be your network setup.
Edit: just read your previous posts again. You say that it worked with the 3Com router, so it's not a problem with the phone. Check the security settings on the Cisco router. Check if it's using AAA/RADIUS server, MAC table, etc. The fact that it connects but no traffic passes through is symptomatic to a security problem, not a hardware one.
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I had exactly the same problem, turned out it was my bt hub, a quick restore to defaults on my hub sorted the problem out.
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owz206 said:
I had exactly the same problem, turned out it was my bt hub, a quick restore to defaults on my hub sorted the problem out.
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You mean reset the router?
Sorry for the late reply, yes reset the router
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Set up your devices ip manually I get this a lot because dhcp keeps assigning the same addresses to different devices
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