Video Recording? - HD2 General

Hi Guys,
I am guessing the HD2 doesn't come with video recording (strange for a top smartphone as this) but is there any chance of a software solution coming in the future that might support this feature?
cheers,
Zhuk

Zhuk86 said:
Hi Guys,
I am guessing the HD2 doesn't come with video recording (strange for a top smartphone as this) but is there any chance of a software solution coming in the future that might support this feature?
cheers,
Zhuk
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Why do you guess this....Are you talking about 3g video calls, then no..
I`m sure you`ll be able to take videos though...

aren't there videos taken with HD2 floating around in youtube?

Yes there are. And yes, HD2 has video recording. The "guesses" come from the official spec sheet where video recording isn't mentioned I think.

seriously, there's a thread on the front page about video playback...

lude219 said:
seriously, there's a thread on the front page about video playback...
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And how exactly is that relevant to the subject of video recording?

I hope you guys are right! video recording would make me very happy!

Zhuk86 said:
I hope you guys are right! video recording would make me very happy!
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I think you're confused by the Iphone - until recently it didn't support video recording - as far as I know, winmo has always had that when a camera is installed?
but just to set this straight, what do you mean with video recording?
start the camera and record a video and save to memory card or something else?

Shasarak said:
And how exactly is that relevant to the subject of video recording?
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Because almost every phones (except apple) imaginable in the last 5 years have had video recording? A cheap $25 samsung slider has video recording, so what makes you think a high-end $800-900 phone doesnt come with one? That's like asking if a new Ferrari 458 will be expensive...

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Because almost every phones (except apple) imaginable in the last 5 years have had video recording? A cheap $25 samsung slider has video recording, so what makes you think a high-end $800-900 phone doesnt come with one? That's like asking if a new Ferrari 458 will be expensive...
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Not to sound like a troll, but as a genuine comment knowing people who had the iPhone as their first "proper" smartphone, they've been genuinely surprised that pretty much every other camera-containing smartphone ever made has video recording and mms (copy and paste/multitasking/etc less so).

Just wanted to say that some people have to cut the attitude, I was only asking a question! and the reason I thought it didn't come with video recording is because a preview said as much and I thought it was strange. This will be my first smartphone so give me a break!

nghj said:
aren't there videos taken with HD2 floating around in youtube?
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No, there aren't. It's only one video and looks very bad. I guess the camera is craptastic

There is one video sample here. It's not as bad as some, but it's no dedicated video camera.

l3v5y said:
There is one video sample here. It's not as bad as some, but it's no dedicated video camera.
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shaky as always

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only 640x480!!!!!!?????

OK so I have been looking at other phones with a 5MP camera and they can record video higher than 640x480.
One example is the N900. It can record up to 848x480.
Another example, the Droid can record 720x480.
I'm just curious and want to know if the hardware in the HD2 is capable of higher quality video recording
Thx
What will you be viewing the videos on?
I guess you're talking of video?
Then no. But with the high quality tweak the quality is pretty good for 640x480.
made it a bit clearer, srry
It was never advertised as anything more than 640x480. So sorry, that's as good as it gets.
scrizz said:
I'm just curious and want to know if the hardware in the HD2 is capable of higher quality video recording
Thx
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maybe you should read the point of this thread
PoisonWolf said:
It was never advertised as anything more than 640x480. So sorry, that's as good as it gets.
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HAHAHA you were proved wrong.
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Your thread is not closed
yes it can, wp7 can record in 720 hd
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Your thread is not closed
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Ha, I had reopened it.

improvements to video with Froyo

What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.
goldt said:
What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.
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I had this problem in 2.1. Haven't had a chance to test it in 2.2. I'll try to post back when I have tested it.
Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.
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Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.
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evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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I agree with this. The video recording on the EVO is a total joke. 720p my ass! More like 120p.
Droid X and iPhone 4 are worlds apart in this category. Sad!
Personally, I don't think the photo camera is all that good either. In fact I think its also **** for a so-called 8MP camera.
Thanks HTC!
Htc needs to fix this....a majority can be fixed threw software...lazy htc ...we sould email or boycott or something.
jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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I tempered my expectations because I knew it was a phone, but when two of your selling points are 8mp camera and 720p recording they should be decent.
I have had good luck using the camera, and I gotten great shots (especially considering it is a phone) But the stock camcorder was HORRIBLE, and it makes 720p fans cry!
Cyanogen's rom has made video recording better for me.
jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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calm down dad... theres nothing worse then someone who can't appreciate proper implementation of today's technology..
lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l
Yeah I'm going to say that the video quality on the EVO is fantastic but there's a lot of work to be done.
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I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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weezer562 said:
I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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That's what people without good video quality will say! You dont hear this from iPhone poeple and I work and take phone calls from them everyday.
They complain about multi tasking..... Give me better video HTC
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lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l
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This genius took the plastic off in the store.
This genius is also a professional photographer and knows the limitations of cameras and lenses so I expected little from a cell phone, but I experienced less than I expected.
The video is not 720p, that is a downright lie.
The 8mp camera, yes it is 8mp, but it is poor quality.
I run CM6 and it has a slightly better take on the cam and camcorder.
Even after multiple attempts to adjust the media_profiles.xml and the different configuration files there is little we can get from it. There is an entire thread about this is 28 pages long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808
And I almost forgot, obvious troll is obvious.

[Q] Is HD2 getting 720p Camcorder

just wondering since builds are being processed and some are saying "No 720p Camcorder YET" is anyone actually working on this or can it not be done?
thx
i rule123 said:
just wondering since builds are being processed and some are saying "No 720p Camcorder YET" is anyone actually working on this or can it not be done?
thx
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I think you just answered your own question
i rule123 said:
just wondering since builds are being processed and some are saying "No 720p Camcorder YET" is anyone actually working on this or can it not be done?
thx
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I think... yeah its possible, but no 720p quality
Its is possible , but you should be happy with what you already got , a working camera,
All the other Windows phones that got android dont got working camera's
Jalaluddin said:
Its is possible , but you should be happy with what you already got , a working camera,
All the other Windows phones that got android dont got working camera's
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^^^ very good point.
Plus I would imagine that utilising a 720p resolution is goig to have a major impact on the already mediocre framerate.
IMO theres not much point having 720p recording if its going to be at 5fps.
Hopefully im wrong and it will be silky smooth at 720p
Well on robsbay.co.uk it has said for a while now that 720p is defiantly working but isn't in any builds yet.
I'm not sure if he actually means defiantly or definitely...
X2 on 720 not being worth it. High resolution video through a crummy lens is just a bad idea. Giant crappy video is still crappy video. Pick up a Kodak Zi8 if you want HD video on the cheap.
polo735 said:
X2 on 720 not being worth it. High resolution video through a crummy lens is just a bad idea. Giant crappy video is still crappy video. Pick up a Kodak Zi8 if you want HD video on the cheap.
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an extra recording option does not harm any one also
polo735 said:
X2 on 720 not being worth it. High resolution video through a crummy lens is just a bad idea. Giant crappy video is still crappy video. Pick up a Kodak Zi8 if you want HD video on the cheap.
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I disagree... yes, the quality will always be worse than a real video camera but the same applies to still images. DSLRs are head and shoulders above the best camera phone, so would you say camera phones might as well have stayed at VGA resolution instead of 5 or 8 MP common these days?
Unless there are framerate issues I'd love HD video capture. Some phones it's not so great, but some are pretty impressive given everything (the Samsung Galaxy S seem to do pretty crisp 720p).
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I think you just answered your own question
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how about styin quiet if u cant answer the question ? u should try it sometimes
thx for all the answers guys, and yes after what ive read all over the internet the hd2 could be getting 720p camcorder and a pretty good one if the framerate is enough/sorted
souljaboy said:
how about styin quiet if u cant answer the question ? u should try it sometimes
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LMFAO...Irony at its best ^^^ Did YOU answer the question ^^^ ? ummm NO.
Lesson for the day: Thats what we call irony! (nothing to do with that metalic stuff)
(I didnt need to answer the question... I simply pointed out that the OP had already answered it himself... and I did it without flaming you should try it sometime )
Oh by the way.... your an idiot
Thank you, come again.
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LMFAO...Irony at its best ^^^ Did YOU answer the question ^^^ ? ummm NO.
Lesson for the day: Thats what we call irony! (nothing to do with that metalic stuff)
(I didnt need to answer the question... I simply pointed out that the OP had already answered it himself... and I did it without flaming you should try it sometime )
Oh by the way.... your an idiot
Thank you, come again.
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posting useless replies like this makes you the real idiot not him
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posting useless replies like this makes you the real idiot not him
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Speaking of useless replies ^^^^
Whichever way you look at it I was the first to answer the OP and it was done in a friendly manner.
Since then, you and the other muppet have flamed me with useless posts while not even mentioning the OP.
Again, I'm brought back to my comments about irony and idiots
Both of you better chillax or i'm gonna be sending people home walking.
Keep the flaming down please!. ! ​
So any news for 720p on Android? WP7 can do it, so it's possible.
Any progress?
We need that for Android

Is 720P Important to You?

Hey guys, quick question for nexus one users. Do you guys consider taking 720p video important? I know you could do the 720p hack, but the quality is so-so with alot of stuttering. Do you guys find vid recording a selling point or just a perk thats not really necessary.
IpodLover77 said:
Hey guys, quick question for nexus one users. Do you guys consider taking 720p video important? I know you could do the 720p hack, but the quality is so-so with alot of stuttering. Do you guys find vid recording a selling point or just a perk thats not really necessary.
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Yes i use it and love it. i find the micro stuttering is from a slow sd card. It wasn't a selling point for me since its not a stock feature
IpodLover77 said:
Hey guys, quick question for nexus one users. Do you guys consider taking 720p video important? I know you could do the 720p hack, but the quality is so-so with alot of stuttering. Do you guys find vid recording a selling point or just a perk thats not really necessary.
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if you turn off auto focus, it's pretty good. i call 720p a good selling point, and from now on a must have for a phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Qwfkvup3Y
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if you turn off auto focus, it's pretty good. i call 720p a good selling point, and from now on a must have for a phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Qwfkvup3Y
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*lol, like the vid!
I'd trade 720p for better quality pictures, so no, it's not that important to me, but nice to have nevertheless.
forgot to put in the reason why im asking.
i love the vanilla UI and i LOVE (you have no idea) the Nexus One styling. This is the phone i wanted for a really long time. But the thing is, the nexus one is lacking in apps (one in particular that i play everyday, bejewled blitz) and its lacking in the HD recording department (and touch to focus). Im trying to decide if those two things are worth going back to the iphone. The ironic thing is, i dont even take videos on the iphone. i think its the fact that its nice to have.
being stuck in the middle blows.
CM6 video has touch to focus and continuous auto-focus in video.
bcpk said:
CM6 video has touch to focus and continuous auto-focus in video.
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does it rival the iphone 4's vid quality or is it a bit more stutter-y?
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does it rival the iphone 4's vid quality or is it a bit more stutter-y?
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You're comparing a year old phone with a few months old phone...not working, compare it with the 3Gs!
I don't have an iPhone 4 but I'm pretty sure the iPhone has better video/picture quality than the Nexus
It's not that important to me now, but may be in the near future...
It is not as good as the iPhone 4's but the Nexus One is an older, less powerful phone. The video quality is adequate.
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if you turn off auto focus, it's pretty good. i call 720p a good selling point, and from now on a must have for a phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Qwfkvup3Y
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Wow thats really good quality video. Not really a pic/video person but glad my n1 will take quality video.
thanks for the replies guys. i guess i'll use the nexus one as a primary phone and carry the iphone if i go places i need to record videos.
i would just like some mod that can enable the auto focus when im recording something
not really important but always good to have.. loving cm6.1rc1
I've used the video capabilities exactly one time.
Don't think that 720p would do anything for me.
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i would just like some mod that can enable the auto focus when im recording something
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I can do that in CM6 ... if I understand you right. I'm able to change focus method in the middle of the recording.
I agree with some of the posts here.
I don't care about the 720p recording but it's good to have it but I'd also definetly trade it for better quality on my photos
Yeah bcpk I don't use cm I'm on geo's Rom
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Yeah bcpk I don't use cm I'm on geo's Rom
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If you use enom's rom you can install the htc cam which has 720p
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[Q] snapdragon's 120fps - doesn't look 720P to me :(

hello there
i was wondering on this issue.
the snapdragon 800 supposedly can do real 720P slo-mo at 120fps. right?
well, i checked many YT videos of the NOTE 3 alongside the A7's similar slo-mo (apple's 5S),
and it DOES NOT LOOK 720P at all. it looks pixelated, or better say, UPSCALED 480p.
while the A7 produce a video that's really usable, and really looks like genuine 720P.
why is that? from the specs i read on the SD800 it clearly says it HAS that capability.
this is a feature i just gotta have in my next phone and i want an Android phone with proper screen size.
any thoughts on the matter?
thanks!
Hmm I think you got it completely wrong..
http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-apple-iphone-5s-is-not-actually-recording-720p-slo-mo-video/
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Hmm I think you got it completely wrong..
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yea i saw it, thanks.
whether of not this is true, i could see with my own eyes from the many YT 720P videos that it's vastly superior to any other rivals with this option.
mainly the Note 3.
so they say the 5S is not genuine 720p? so it means the Note 3 is even less than 480p? i need FACTS.
and my eyes tell me the 5S looks like 720P. and the NOTE 3 looks like an upscaled 480p
please look in YT and tell me i'm wrong?
the 5S videos are usable to me. the NOTE 3 aren't.
so, why is that?
I don't have any reason to not believe you but.
To me it looks like genuine 720p. GSM arena a respectable site says it's genuine, while the 5s is not, so..
It seems to me maybe you have individual issues with it. Did you try flashing the APK camera again or another rom maybe this will solve your issue?
Worst case scenario is that you have a faulty camera and you need to give it for a repair?
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I don't have any reason to not believe you but.
To me it looks like genuine 720p. GSM arena a respectable site says it's genuine, while the 5s is not, so..
It seems to me maybe you have individual issues with it. Did you try flashing the APK camera again or another rom maybe this will solve your issue?
Worst case scenario is that you have a faulty camera and you need to give it for a repair?
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you misunderstood me.
i don't own a Note 3. i am looking for an Android device that can do a decent 720p slo-mo,
and from all the latest snapdragon's out there, the Note is the only one that claims to do a real 720p slo-mo.
i looked at many comparisons videos on youtube, downloaded them and studied them.
conclusion: the 5S is doing at least a x2 better job, whether it's fake or not.
if you could upload a sample of a 120fps slo-mo from your Note 3 and let me study it, i might be proven wrong.
but from MANY samples on YT, my eyes tell me a different story. please check for yourself and tell me.
(i'm not allowed to paste links yet, sorry)
btw - the gsm arena themselves say that they took a 720p video (NOT slo-mo) from the Note 3 and compared it to the 5S slo-mo, so obviously they didn't compare it right imo.
Ok I will be Cpt Obvious but... Do not trust YT. Or the internet samples from the vast majority of YT channels. I only read respectable sites and not the biased stories of every guy that posts or reposts the same videos with unproven or unscientific or biased methods.
Beyond all that, logic says a smartphone that can shoot 4K video @30fps and [email protected] certainly can do 720p @120fps. Especially with a processor like the S800.
If I have some time to upload a video I will do it for you, but I can't make any promises.
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btw - the gsm arena themselves say that they took a 720p video (NOT slo-mo) from the Note 3 and compared it to the 5S slo-mo, so obviously they didn't compare it right imo.
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Read the article again carefully. They did that since iPhone 5s does not support regular 720p video . Also the method is more than legit if you follow their logic. I am sorry to say that again but I would take the GSM Arena's findings any day over a YT's channel.
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Ok I will be Cpt Obvious but... Do not trust YT. Or the internet samples from the vast majority of YT channels. I only read respectable sites and not the biased stories of every guy that posts or reposts the same videos with unproven or unscientific or biased methods.
Beyond all that, logic says a smartphone that can shoot 4K video @30fps and [email protected] certainly can do 720p @120fps. Especially with a processor like the S800.
If I have some time to upload a video I will do it for you, but I can't make any promises.
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i completely agree with you on that.
that's why i asked you for a genuine sample
really hope you could make the effort (or anyone else here for that matter )
thanks.
rozroz said:
i completely agree with you on that.
that's why i asked you for a genuine sample
really hope you could make the effort (or anyone else here for that matter )
thanks.
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I will try I promise.Currently at work and way too much rain here today. It would be better to capture with better conditions for better results.
orbitech said:
I will try I promise.Currently at work and way too much rain here today. It would be better to capture with better conditions for better results.
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many thanks!
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but how do you set the frame rate? I can set the resolution to 720p but I see no options for framerate.
neoKushan said:
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but how do you set the frame rate? I can set the resolution to 720p but I see no options for framerate.
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from what i remember you can only record a "slow motion" option.. no? ( i don't won a Note 3, sorry).
I'm not seeing anything like that anywhere though.
EDIT: Never mind, found it!
neoKushan said:
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but how do you set the frame rate? I can set the resolution to 720p but I see no options for framerate.
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Once you choose the video resolution you open the "gear" menu and select the recording mode from a videocam icon that is there. There is no 30/60/120, just normal,fast,slow/smooth/limit for MMS options,depending on the video resolution you choose.
Thanks, I managed to find the options. There are actually some other options as well, you can set 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 (default).
I've made two quick recordings of me picking up a pen and dropping it, one in slow-mo (1/8) and one at regular 720p. There's a definite difference in quality, I think.
Rather than upping them to youtube, here are the files straight from the device for a better comparison:
Regular: http://www.multiupload.nl/PFSU1W0H5R
Slow-mo: http://www.multiupload.nl/ZZF0SB3IFG
orbitech said:
I don't have any reason to not believe you but.
To me it looks like genuine 720p. GSM arena a respectable site says it's genuine, while the 5s is not, so..
It seems to me maybe you have individual issues with it. Did you try flashing the APK camera again or another rom maybe this will solve your issue?
Worst case scenario is that you have a faulty camera and you need to give it for a repair?
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He's not kidding. I think many people can't tell. It does indeed look pixelated and i'm here in Singapore. I showed my friend and she can't tell, i wish everyone in the world can't tell so we can all just live a big lie but it's pretty obvious there if u compare it with another 720p at 30fps
I'm just surprise that there isn't too many mentioned about it. :laugh: Sad to say, cos of this issue, i haven't been doing any 120fps video cos of the bad quality, a feature i was really excited over nothing. I wish Samsung would fix it though, if they even think it's a problem to begin with.
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I know! I haven't once use it to take a video that i can upload but i'm thankful for the 60fps FHD. That one works really well
There are three modes for slow-mo.
If you select slow-mo 1/2 videos are recorded at true 720p - 120fps (quality is same as with regular 720p)
If you select 1/4 or 1/8 slo-mo (slower movements) videos are recorded at 240/480 fps and resolution is definitely lower (probably 480p upscaled) and you could clearly see difference in quality as well as pixelation.
Try recording at 1/2!
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There are three modes for slow-mo.
If you select slow-mo 1/2 videos are recorded at true 720p - 120fps (quality is same as with regular 720p)
If you select 1/4 or 1/8 slo-mo (slower movements) videos are recorded at 240/480 fps and resolution is definitely lower (probably 480p upscaled) and you could clearly see difference in quality as well as pixelation.
Try recording at 1/2!
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Tried. Quality looks better but i'm pretty sure that's not 120fps? Cos it's almost the same speed as a normal 30fps. Regardless, i think it's really poor. I hate to say this but iPhone 5S one looks way better even though it's not true 720p. And it can actually vary the speed, which is really nice.
Weird thing is the FHD 60fps look so much better that perhaps they should go for 120fps at FHD
I have the same problem.I would like to record 720p at 1/8.Isn't there any third party app that can help us or does it have something to do with hardware limitations?
neoKushan said:
Thanks, I managed to find the options. There are actually some other options as well, you can set 1/2, 1/4 or 1/8 (default).
I've made two quick recordings of me picking up a pen and dropping it, one in slow-mo (1/8) and one at regular 720p. There's a definite difference in quality, I think.
Rather than upping them to youtube, here are the files straight from the device for a better comparison:
Regular: http://www.multiupload.nl/PFSU1W0H5R
Slow-mo: http://www.multiupload.nl/ZZF0SB3IFG
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many thanks!
watched the slo-mo.
yea, definitely not 720p for 120fps.
5S wins heavily.

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