Hi,
Have someone any idea about using Tomtom with the Sedna integrated GPS ?
Thanks.
My p6500 from orange works fine with tomtom 6 using the internal gps. Also I-go 8 works fine too.
I got TomTom 5.21 working with no problem.
Same here Tomtom v6 works a treat
I have Tomtom 6, and I can't see how to connect to the built-in gps receiver, how do I do this?
I've tried:
Change preferences > Show GPS Status > configure and the available options are:
TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver
TomTom wired GPs receiver
Other Bluetooth GPS receiver
Other NMEA GPS receiver
But none of these work. Currently, 'Other Bluetooth GPS receiver' works with my external one, but if I could use the built-in one it would be much nicer. One less thing sliding around on the dashboard!
On the subject of GPS, what's that quickGPS all about? The manual says very little about it.
xmastree, use Other NMEA GPS receiver, then pick the correct one, on my Orange M700 it is GPS in COM9, I think the Sedna is different, my trial unit went back months ago. You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
I liked quickGPS. Normally a GPS chip only knows about the local satellites where the chip is manufactured, in this case Taiwan, and does not know where to look in the sky for sats good for the UK the first time you use it. It can take up to 2 hours before you get lock. quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
woodvale said:
You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
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Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
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Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
xmastree said:
Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
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You're welcome. I was quoting my Orange M700 settings on WM5 AKU3, the Sedna was WM6 and I trialled it about 4 months ago, don't expect me to remember the detail.
Did not spot the 7 day quickGPS refresh on mine, but I would not think this would be a lot of traffic, they're aren't many GPS satellites!
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I was stationary at the time.
Comparing the built-in one and my external bluetooth receiver:
No contest really, is it?
And here I am, supersonic, somewhere over the North sea. I was actually in Kirkham, Lancashire.
xmastree said:
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I've been using an Orange M700 (HTC 3600 [Trinity]) WM5 AKU3 for almost a year now with the same GPS chip as in the Sedna (HTC P6500) with no ill effects. Only downside is it is a bit slow to lock, sometimes 60 seconds, but once locked is fine. Initially it was in a screen sucker cradle but my cig socket for the power is mounted in a centre console level with the back of the drivers seat so the coiled cable was constantly springing out so I switched to putting the unit in the drinks holder way BELOW and underneath the dashboard in my personal car where you would not expect good signal but it is not a problem in all driving conditions.
We recently bought 35 Sednas and I have 3 deployed now in a live pilot not using cradles and only one suffers. His company car has a metallised screen (to cut UV radiation, a Picasso) which also stops the GPS signal. There is a small area of the screen not screened just behind the rearview mirror where we have the existing external GPS receiver that was used to supply his previous PDA cradle that did not have GPS. We will be re-fitting this to a new cradle due to be fitted in the next few days. The other 2 units have no problems, but are different cars.
I took my base build sedna on the road over the weekend in my own car without UV screening and it was as good as the M700. I even put it on the passenger seat and on the floor, still good as gold.
So I think it is your car that is the problem, you'll have to use an external GPS antenna, unless ............. My previous trial P6500 was WM6.0 but that also worked fine in my same car as now, the new ones are WM6.1, but I doubt it.
Regards QuickGPS 7 day refresh, now I have the P6500 back, it is a waste of time, you only need to sync once in the UK after a hard reset. QuickGPS was not available on the M700 so I couldn't comment before. I synced my base build P6500 2 months ago once, used it in the image to be burned on the 35 new ones and they've all picked up fine in practice.
Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
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Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
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Ask your Peugeot dealer about the screen (and side windows). I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door. I would not expect a GPS receiver to lock in these conditions, or at least be very slow and freeze, how the hell is it going to lock onto 5 simultaneous satellites with no line of sight in a car, especially if all the windows have UV screening?
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
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I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door.
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It's not below the dash, it's on top, in clear view from above.
FWIW, during a rather 'spirited' launch this morning, the bluetooth receiver ended up in the passenger footwell and still got a better signal.
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
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Not sure about that. The bluetooth receiver has the GPS chip in it whereas an external antenna plugged into the PDA will just pick up the satellite signals and feed them to the PDA's gps chip.
Sygic
Took tomtom off my Sedna and installed the latest Sygic v824.
Could not make iGo8 to work.
Took tomtom of my Sedna and installed Sygic latest v824.
Tried to install iGO8 but the phone keeps getting stuck.
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I notice a lot of you seem to have GPS up and running on jasjar.
I had tottom running on my xda2 with backpack and CF GPS receiver, but as I could not use the CF GPS with JJ, I sold it with my xda along with my car cradle which was a window mount and I am hoping to find/install something a little sturdier (worried about the weight).
So please give me some ideas on a GPS receiver working with JJ and any thoughts on car cradles.
Cheers, Numb
Your best bet would be to purchase a Bluetooth GPS receiver. There are plenty of them going around but the best one imo is the HOLUX GPSlim-236. It is based on the SIRFstar III chip which means it picks up more satellites and has a better connectivity. There are other SIRFstar III compliant BT GPS like Globalsat and the likes but the GPSlim-236 is the smallest and the lightest.
Regarding cradles for the JJ, there are many options again, but since it is rather "weighty", i suggest you buy a cradle that can be stuck or screwed onto your dashboard. I have seen the Dicota cradle which has this option and is pretty cheap too, about 15 quid if i am not mistaken.
Have fun searching!
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Regarding cradles for the JJ, there are many options again, but since it is rather "weighty", i suggest you buy a cradle that can be stuck or screwed onto your dashboard.
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Actually, there are probably less than one might think. The HTC Universal has it's USB/Power connector on it's SIDE, which is where the left "arm" of most cradles grip onto it. This means you're going to have issues powering the device from the car cigarette ligher socket. I'm looking for a cradle at the moment with "arms" that are quite high up...
Oh right! I completely forgot about that. My bad! I guess we will just haveta wait and see. Maybe you can email Arkon or Dicota and see if they can come up with something.
Numb said:
I notice a lot of you seem to have GPS up and running on jasjar.
I had tottom running on my xda2 with backpack and CF GPS receiver, but as I could not use the CF GPS with JJ, I sold it with my xda along with my car cradle which was a window mount and I am hoping to find/install something a little sturdier (worried about the weight).
So please give me some ideas on a GPS receiver working with JJ and any thoughts on car cradles.
Cheers, Numb
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I emailed Brodit (www.brodit.com) a few days ago and got a reply saying the will have powered mounts available at the end of the month
TT BT GPS works fine
You can use it with Arkon support, I did, you just have to put the power cord side up.
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universaldoc said:
Regarding cradles for the JJ, there are many options again, but since it is rather "weighty", i suggest you buy a cradle that can be stuck or screwed onto your dashboard.
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Actually, there are probably less than one might think. The HTC Universal has it's USB/Power connector on it's SIDE, which is where the left "arm" of most cradles grip onto it. This means you're going to have issues powering the device from the car cigarette ligher socket. I'm looking for a cradle at the moment with "arms" that are quite high up...
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But if you rotated the JJ 90degrees so the usb connector is at the bottom that orientation would be nice to drop/slot into a dash mounted, basestation, that above the steeringwheel would be below my windscreen and be quite tasty for TT5, only issue then would be landscape map, which imo is slightly less revealing for the road ahead.
It could simply be velcro attached onto the dash reducing mounting issues, and you can easily make it cableless by making a hole in the dash underneath for the cable to pass through before arriving at the ciggly socket.
The destinator 3 with Globalsat BT 338 bluetooth gps receiver works well with the jasjar.....as for the cradle i bought mine from ebay and modified the two arms that olds the jasjar in place so it sits in place safely without falling off just incase i hit a big bump on the road and suddenly jumps out....i'll post a pic soon...its also a suction type holder and does not vibrate like the other pda holders.....it works well on portrait and also when the pda is on the landscape mode as the holder is adjustable.....as for the usb port, this is exactly placed under the arms of the holder so its not obstructing at all...
ok here are the pics for my jasjar cradle....
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I too have a Holux Slim 236 and it is very good. I would definitely recommend it.
I have not yet bought a car mount cradle for my JasJar. Until now I've been using a powered mount with built in amplified speaker for my BlueAngel from Silver Shield. I am that they will produce a similar one for the JasJar.
I think it would be brilliant if they came up with a cradle that can hold the JasJar with the flip open so you can actually use the keyboard on it with TomTom if you want to.
Hi irv777
Could you specify what is the make of the holder you used and maybe also where on ebay you bought it ??
Cheers
i had to modify part of the arms to hold the jasjar in place as per shown in the above pics..... but u can get them on ebay or on the website www.online-electronics.com.au also try looking at this other holder i came accross as it might be a little bit better..... http://www.thepocketsolution.com/Me...egory_Code=jasjar_accessories&Product_Count=7
The holder from pocketpcsolutions.com looks like side arms will cover usb socket & therefor you wont be able to charge it.
Regards
Colin Bate
I use an Arkon powered mount, its really good because it uses stanadard USB ports to power everything, so all you need is the standard USB cable, it also has an additional output for charging almost any BT GPS adaptor.
PS it also has a built in amp and speaker
and it fits perfectly
http://www.arkon.com/imgs_site/thumb_cm720.jpg
ice_coffee,
Are you using HTC Universal with that Arcon holder? Because if I ook at the pic it looks like the side grips will cover the USB port since it is on the side of the HTC Universal
irv777,
Thanx for the links looks good, I think it is going to be one of those two.
Although on the site of Arkon http://www.arkon.com/
Look at the Car holder for PSP it is horisontal and looks pretty steady, Question is if the Universal will fit in it ?
Yes I have a universal, these pics I have uploaded should answer all your questions, I originally bought mine for my HP2110 but it fits perfectly. However if you do get one you will have to get your own standard USB sync and charge cable or wait for arcon to officially release it.
PS I forgot to mention I have a window sucker but its fine (ie it does not fall off ~ especially if the sucker is a bit wet)
Thanx mate...
I have just realised that I can also use the Landskape Left Hnaded and then all is good with my existing holder.
You just saved me aroung 25-30 Euros
Cheers
I purchased the Holux GPSlim 236 and now looking for a software for it. I was looking around and like the iGuidance v3.0. Does anyone know if those two pair will work on the Cingular 8125? Thanks.
iGuidance 3
I have seen people that were using iG3 on their wizards and said it worked great. Your BT GPS module should work fine as well. I personally think that iG3 is the best option for the Wizard family since it uses the least amount of system resources of most any software option and has the easiest to use setup for maps.
You are probably going to want to use OMAPClock to overclock the CPU to use IGuidance. It works fairly well without being overclocked but can take 30 seconds to a minute to reroute if you miss a turn. It's definately a lot slower to update your position than when I have it paired with my laptop. I want to test this out again with the CPU overcloced to see what gains I will see, but I seem to have misplaced my Bluetooth GPS receiver...haha
I also have the Holux GPSlim 236 and I use it with Tomtom, it takes a while to start, but once loaded it works perfectly without overclocking and reroutes in no time at all
I just got my Iguidance 3 and Holux bundle in the mail yesterday.
Hehehe...all day at work i was anxiously waiting for quittin time while watching the Holux charge up...also installing IG3 on my MDA.
When i got home, spent 5-10 mins installing the mount, then off i was...so far works great...
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I also have the Holux GPSlim 236 and I use it with Tomtom, it takes a while to start, but once loaded it works perfectly without overclocking and reroutes in no time at all
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I looked at both, and I think the only reason that iguidance would take longer to reroute, is that the maps are more detailed? This is a guess, because I looked at my usa state's map, and on tomtom its 30 megs, but on iguidance, its 66 megs.
Just a possibility.
I have heard however, the maps for iguidance are much better in the usa than tomtom's usa maps.
Hi, i also plan on getting a GPS, and i need a full crash course.
can someone help me out?
cons and pros cheapest and the best GPS thing and the programs.
also screen shots of how they look would be nice.
i don't drive often since i live in NYC, but i could find a GPS handy, and i could go Geo cache in central park.
thnks!
IG3 Screenshots
I don't have my gps unit hooked up but this gives you the basic idea of IG3. It's a great program and runs much faster on a laptop or my Dell Axim. This is noticably slower but works well since I always have this with me. To store Oregon and Washington maps on my storage card takes up about 125Mb of storage on my 2Gb mini sd card. There's still lots of room for programs, email attachments and music.
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I use iGuidance 2.1.3 or so with my HTC wizard and a Holux GPSlim236 and it works AMAZING! When it needs to recalculate, it takes all of a few seconds! I'll get IG3 at some point i'm sure, but for now 2.1.3 works fine for me...the maps don't seem old.
cool, thanks!
so what do i need? to get started?
do i need a service plan or something?
can i load geo cache stuff with it?
and what did u mean by "This is noticably slower"
thanks!
ps, does anyone live in the city, i wonder how the city maps look like. is it detailed? thanks!
Hey Ray_jai - in the same boat - mine's en route!
I'm not only new to the GPS usage, but only just ordered the MDA itself - and it's my first cell&net driven PDA! I have the GPS unit coming also and will be (trying) to set it up quickly....
....and it's my first GPS as well!
I've been using IG3 now for just about a week. And it being my first GPS i think its great.
I live in the city, and general just use the map function to see where i am, (not for directions cuz i generally know where i am). However i've tested it out in the twisty curvy roads of the suburbs just outside Boston, MA, and i'll tell u it works like a charm. I even tested out how fast it re-calculates when i purposely ignored a turn, it literally took 5 seconds to give me a new route to get me back in the correct direction.
I've also found new faster routes and shortcuts to get to friends' places that i've been going to for years.
Just to answer a few questions...
Things needed:
You need a pocketpc...in the case of this sub-forum a Wizard.
GPS Software, (IGuidance, TomTom, ur choice) I chose IG3
GPS Receiver (i chose the Holux GPSlim)
A miniSD card to store ur map info...depending on ur state or states...these could take a few megs. I have the whole north and central east coast loaded, and it takes up about 300 mbs.
A car :shock: (not necesary, u could keep the receiver in ur pocket and walk around)
And some reading on these forums to make sure u have ur Wizard setup and ready for the software install. (i.e. My stock Tmobile rom had hidden the additional GPS settings on the MDA, had to perform a registry tweak to unhide it).
There is no subscription or anything needed.
only thing u need to shell out is the money to buy the software and the receiver. And perhaps ur electricty bill when u charge these devices up.
For those considering...check out buygpsnow.com or semsons.com for a great price on their bundles.
thanks!!!
the screen shots on the site is different from urs...
are those just stock photos? thanks
does the GPS itself need a memory stick?
and is there a smaller gps unit? thanks!
and which site do u guys trust more?
can anyone provide links and/or upload any of the programs needed for GPS to work. im really interesting in this.
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can anyone provide links and/or upload any of the programs needed for GPS to work. im really interesting in this.
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you have to buy a GPS receiver and you have to buy GPS map software...like iGuidance or TomTom
On a similar note, is there anyway to stop the screen turning off when im using my gps software like memorymap? I dont mind the light going off but id like the screen to stay on. Ive got a feeling that when the screen turns off the gps stops tracking within memory map and then guesses where the route went when turned back on.
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On a similar note, is there anyway to stop the screen turning off when im using my gps software like memorymap? I dont mind the light going off but id like the screen to stay on. Ive got a feeling that when the screen turns off the gps stops tracking within memory map and then guesses where the route went when turned back on.
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i'm pretty sure it continues to work. I tested it the other day driving through the canyon from PCH to my house. I didn't touch it the whole 11 mile stretch. The screen was off for at least 20 minutes and when I exited the canyon, i told me where to go. 8)
Is there a demo or something for iG3? I have TomTom and I really don't like the directions it gives me. I hope the engines aren't the same.
I've been thinking about getting GPS for a while now. I'm just hesitant to dump $170 for a receiver and software.
I have tried to search but got no results with term GPS so I`m starting new thread.
My gps is not working. I tried different radios, roms and still nothing.
HTC gps tool cannot get fix. GPS Test finds COM4 port but it shows only 'GPS Starting up'. Igo8 shows 'waiting for signal'.
Can be gps faulty? Everything else on the phone works perfectly.
I have disabled A-gps, I have actual data trough quick gps and still nothing.
Thanks for any advice.
pete777 said:
I have tried to search but got no results with term GPS so I`m starting new thread.
My gps is not working. I tried different radios, roms and still nothing.
HTC gps tool cannot get fix. GPS Test finds COM4 port but it shows only 'GPS Starting up'. Igo8 shows 'waiting for signal'.
Can be gps faulty? Everything else on the phone works perfectly.
I have disabled A-gps, I have actual data trough quick gps and still nothing.
Thanks for any advice.
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Have you downloaded latest satellite information using app QuickGPS?
yes I have
any other advice?please
My 2 cents
I don't know if this will be of any help to you, but can you confirm that someone else's phone can actually get a GPS lock in your area.
I had a weird experience last summer, my ATT Fuze at the time, was getting a lock here in Florida within 5-6 seconds. Then I went on a trip by car to Canada, and when I was somewhere in North Carolina, I could not get GPS lock at all. It was high up in the mountains with clear sky above me but no lock ever. Couple of driving hours later it was working perfectly, the same in Toronto area. On my way back, in the same area, it could not get a lock at all again. It worked perfectly anywhere else afterward.
Not sure how to explain it. Is it possible that the GPS signal in that area was so weak?
i tried my friends HD and he catched signal from the same place in few seconds, so it really looks like my device is faulty. Is there any way to test gps receiver?
you can check your if bluetooth and wifi signal work properly. if you can't find bt or wifi signal. Maybe you gps/wifi/bt antenna unfastened. My HD came with the same problem last year. I opened my HD and reconnected the two anternna and everything went ok.
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you can check your if bluetooth and wifi signal work properly. if you can't find bt or wifi signal. Maybe you gps/wifi/bt antenna unfastened. My HD came with the same problem last year. I opened my HD and reconnected the two anternna and everything went ok.
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i have the same problem...
hove do you reconnect the two antenna ?
regards
Phil
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i have the same problem...
hove do you reconnect the two antenna ?
regards
Phil
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see the pic below. the connector is on the other side of the tf slot
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my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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i read your post carefully and find that you can get gps fix. so it is no problem with anternna.
if you want to test your gps hardware, you can use an app called "htc gps tool". your problem may caused by software or settings. try do hard reset or flash a new rom
I already flashed multiple roms, tried different radios..nothing..
I`m using htc gps tool but I dont know how to check if there is gps hardware problem. I just dont get fix.
do you live near to military area?
pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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Pete, just check both of those 2 black cables to make sure they are snapped down. One is GPS (by volume bottons) the other is BT and WIFI. If, you can't keep them snapped down after re-assmbly, then put a dab of Gorilla Glue, let dry 4hrs and re-assemble - that will hold for ever.
pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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Pete, just check both of those 2 black cables to make sure they are snapped down. One is GPS (by volume bottons) the other is BT and WIFI. If, you can't keep them snapped down after re-assmbly, then put a dab of Gorilla Glue, let dry 4hrs and re-assemble - that will hold for ever.
so there is a possibility that my gps cable is disconnected?
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so there is a possibility that my gps cable is disconnected?
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Yes, maybe from a drop that popped the cable loose. If, you're not affraid to void warranty (or it's out of warranty), then as last resort - I would open the device and carefully check the cables. Remember, I would first reflash back to a ROM that I knew the GPS was working on before digging in. There are posts in the HD forum that have disassembly/assembly videos of how to repair the HD.
I opened my HD and it was loose gps cable. Just connected it back and its working perfectly. Thanks for all advices.
I have Google Maps with GPS location support on my eLocity. This is a short note describing what I put together -- I did no work here, I just found the appropriate notes left by others.
Update: Navigation works too. See below.
I had an eLocity that I put Dexter's v1.42 on. But the market on that does not show Google Maps. So I put Bestialbub's fix on top of that. And that did display google maps, so I downloaded it. However, for whatever reason, the resulting market was very unstable, and would force close, even as a background task when I wasn't using it.
But it was good enough to play with. And with it I got the fundamentals working, however, I did end up reflashing with the latest stock eLocity firmware and installing Bestialbub's market on top of that.
So I installed Google Maps on the eLocity.
The eLocity does not have a GPS, so you need some external GPS device. I used my Nexus One and an app called Bluetooth GPS Output
I believe that app cost a couple of bucks, and there are free apps that will do the samething and should work, but I found pretty good instructions on how to get Bluetooth GPS Output to work here.
What Bluetooth GPS Output does is to take the GPS information on my Nexus One and make it available over bluetooth to any connected bluetooth device that wants it.
I then basically followed the instructions from here.
Bluetooth Pair your phone and Archos tablet (I have the Archos 70 250 gb)
Open Bluetooth GPS out on your phone,and turn it on, you should see a screen showing satellite info
Archos Settings/Location and Security/Bluetooth GPS, then select my paired phone. If that is grayed out, try opening up the app on your phone before actually pairing your Archos with your phone.
Open up maps and enjoy the Navigation!
But the last step isn't that simple because the eLocity doesn't support Bluetooth GPS in the Location & security settings page.
But there are workarounds....
Similar to Bluetooth GPS Output, there are apps that do the reverse. Listen for a Bluetooth GPS Stream, and convert that into an internal android source.
And for that, I chose, an application called BluetoothGPS -- similar name, different developers.
I installed that on the eLocity.
At this point I made the eLocity discoverable over bluetooth and discovered it on my Nexus One. The two devices said they were paired but not connected. I'm not sure what that means. And still with this working, I still see on the eLocity, the Bluetooth is active but not really connected icon, while the Nexus shows a bluetooth connection has been made (though that could be indicating a connection with its dock which is 10 feet away.).
On the Nexus One to get Bluetooth GPS Output talking to Bluetooth GPS I:
Didn't do much if anything in Bluetooth GPS Output, I just started it
On the eLocity, I:
On the device's Application settings page, under development, I enabled "Allow mock locations"
I started the application Bluetooth GPS
On Bluetooth GPS's main tab, I enabled Mock GPS Provider
Bluetooth GPS presented a list box with my Nexus in it, and asked me to connect, so I did.
And on Bluetooth GPS settings tab, I frobbed some reconnect interval settings.
And with that, it basically seems to work. The connection does not seem incredibly stable, I am not sure if it's related to screen display timeouts and devices sleeping, or some other source of flakiness.
But it does seem to work.
So I took it out for a test drive, to see how well it worked. This was typical suburban driving. And only lasted about 30 minutes.
The nexus was plugged into the car, the elocity was on battery. Bluetooth on, Bluetooth GPS Output running, Bluetooth GPS running, and the map showed the current location. Great!
So I directed the map on the eLocity to take us to the post office, and ... waited ... and waited ... and nothing happened.
Aha, it needs data. So I turned on the Nexus One's wifi hotspot, connected the eLocity to that, and, ...
Success! Driving directions and navigation worked just fine, with one caveat. For whatever reason, i would tell me when I started up Navigation that if I wanted voice nav, I needed a plugin from the market, but when I said sure, go get it, the market would force close. However, voice navigation worked anyway.
During the 30 minutes I played with it, the connection between the two devices was nice and stable, and the map always displayed the right location and navigation worked as expected.
The eLocity is a very nice mapper compared to the Nexus One, for whatever reason, at equivalent zoom levels, the eLocity display shows much much more of the surrounding area than does the Nexus One. And physically the screen is about three times larger, and much easier to see in daylight (cloudy day though.)
However, the Nexus One displays a map where your current driving direction is always oriented to the top of the screen. This makes it very easy to orient where the next turn or landmark is.
Presumably because the eLocity does not have a digital compass, the eLocity always displays north to the top of the screen. This can be better at sometimes, as when you are trying to get a feel for where a very long route will take you, and worse at other times, when you're just trying to navigate through streets.
But all in all, pretty cool.
Note the Google Maps blue location dot:
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grax!!!!!
Thanks!!!! great tutorial!!!!!!!
* This involves setting up connection via bluetooth to external GPS sensor. If you already know about this, just skip this post. No flaming needed
If not and still frustrate with GPS accuracy with all the latest ROMs, then read on.
I'm just posting so late researcher and newbies are aware of this quick and easy option too instead of the soldering or other alteration that involves open up the physical device. I've been using it for almost 2 years but did not have time to read around much so did not know about this option until recently. I'm slow...I know...lol
Recently, I've been researching for better solid GPS solution and how to cut down battery drain on ICS & JellyBean and ran into a video that involve using external bluetooth. (I did tried the Corrected GPS hardware fix, didn't really help...)
Anyway, I found several external sensors out there, but the ones that are cheap and small are $12 TomTom MKII or $25 Globesat BT-368i at ebay/amazon.
I thought globesat has more capability and longer rechargeable battery life (10+) so I got the Globesat. But MKii probably will do just fine.
Vibrant built-in GPS sensor works great for Froyo, but so-so or OK for GB, ICS, JB, CM7, CM9, or CM10.
When the built-in works, it has all kind of restriction such as does not work after CPU goes into deep sleep or you must do full lock immediately after reboot and before deep sleep & cannot toggle the gps off again.
So any solution that work ON/OFF on demand that is locks quickly with accuracy of within 30ft is perfect to me. You need accuracy of 30 ft or less or else google map or some other program will jump around on locking where you are and give false/wierd direction.
Fortunately, the option of using external GPS sensor via bluetooth is available in most Android and does the job well. I use GPS almost daily to check if there is traffic jam or other quicker alternative detour so the external bluetooth is always available in my car is perfect.
Not only that, it can save your battery too.
I gained about 5 hrs of battery time with Wifi & GPS off most of the time. I get even more battery time when I put the phone on Airplane mode and use GPS exclusively via bluetooth - meaning only bluetooth enable. I don't know how to explain it but I noticed it does. I guess the external sensor does most of the work and just relay minimal data to it and built-in radio/wifi/gps not running so it saves ton of battery.
So far, the coolest thing that worked now is I got more battery out of the phone under ICS or JellyBean ROM (not using built-in gps with wifi off) under Airplane mode and offline turn-by-turn navigation (google maps & Sygic) that still work with external sensor via bluetooth. In essence, that is like having the traditional garmin or tomtom gps anywhere you go as long as you have map available stored locally on your phone (aka offline). Sygic allows you to buy entire US map or the world and put it on your phone for offline navigation. Google maps allow only 6 offline map where each map is around 70-82mb or less. I got entire Orange county in my offline map and can use external gps to pinpoint where i am. The only sucky thing with google maps is you have to get the turn by turn navigation first then you can toggle gps off. Sygic does not rely on built-in gps enable in order for it to work. This is all great the next time I go to Yellowstone National park, since cell signal there sucks for T-mobile. With the external gps, you can put it on your hat and go hiking and still get gps to work wether you use online or offline Google maps, Sygic, Locus, or Orux....
To get your device able to use external GPS sensor via bluetooth, all you have to do is:
1) buy the bluetooth GPS sensor
2) download & install Bluetooth GPS app on android market ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=googoo.android.btgps&hl=en ) by Googoo Android
3) run it, checkmarked "Enable Mock GPS Provider", click Connect
4) go to device Settings, checkmarked "allow mock locations" or equivalent.
5) that's all...use any map software online or offline kind.
The lock I got with this is within 1 second and accuracy of around 6-15ft (on globalsat BT-368i)
You can use this device during hiking to save your cell battery.
You can also use it with mac, pc, windows phone, laptop, tablets that do not have gps sensor built-in with it...all for $12-25...worth it
WHILE DRIVING w/ ext BT GPS configued as Source GPS on CM10 Preview w/ ext bt option...11 out of 12 birds locked and accuracy down to 11ft...
The moment you turn on, it can lock 6+ satellites almost immediately
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EVEN ON AIRPLANE MODE (where almost everything is shutdown including DATA except for GPS & BT), it still saw 10 out of 12 birds with similar locking and was still able to navigate w/ ext bt gps
Navigation turn by turn under AIRPLANE mode
inaccurate signal for car navigation
kobesabi said:
* This involves setting up connection via bluetooth to external GPS sensor. If you already know about this, just skip this post. No flaming needed
If not and still frustrate with GPS accuracy with all the latest ROMs, then read on.
I'm just posting so late researcher and newbies are aware of this quick and easy option too instead of the soldering or other alteration that involves open up the physical device. I've been using it for almost 2 years but did not have time to read around much so did not know about this option until recently. I'm slow...I know...lol
Recently, I've been researching for better solid GPS solution and how to cut down battery drain on ICS & JellyBean and ran into a video that involve using external bluetooth. (I did tried the Corrected GPS hardware fix, didn't really help...)
Anyway, I found several external sensors out there, but the ones that are cheap and small are $12 TomTom MKII or $25 Globesat BT-368i at ebay/amazon.
I thought globesat has more capability and longer rechargeable battery life (10+) so I got the Globesat. But MKii probably will do just fine.
Vibrant built-in GPS sensor works great for Froyo, but so-so or OK for GB, ICS, JB, CM7, CM9, or CM10.
When the built-in works, it has all kind of restriction such as does not work after CPU goes into deep sleep or you must do full lock immediately after reboot and before deep sleep & cannot toggle the gps off again.
So any solution that work ON/OFF on demand that is locks quickly with accuracy of within 30ft is perfect to me. You need accuracy of 30 ft or less or else google map or some other program will jump around on locking where you are and give false/wierd direction.
Fortunately, the option of using external GPS sensor via bluetooth is available in most Android and does the job well. I use GPS almost daily to check if there is traffic jam or other quicker alternative detour so the external bluetooth is always available in my car is perfect.
Not only that, it can save your battery too.
I gained about 5 hrs of battery time with Wifi & GPS off most of the time. I get even more battery time when I put the phone on Airplane mode and use GPS exclusively via bluetooth - meaning only bluetooth enable. I don't know how to explain it but I noticed it does. I guess the external sensor does most of the work and just relay minimal data to it and built-in radio/wifi/gps not running so it saves ton of battery.
So far, the coolest thing that worked now is I got more battery out of the phone under ICS or JellyBean ROM (not using built-in gps with wifi off) under Airplane mode and offline turn-by-turn navigation (google maps & Sygic) that still work with external sensor via bluetooth. In essence, that is like having the traditional garmin or tomtom gps anywhere you go as long as you have map available stored locally on your phone (aka offline). Sygic allows you to buy entire US map or the world and put it on your phone for offline navigation. Google maps allow only 6 offline map where each map is around 70-82mb or less. I got entire Orange county in my offline map and can use external gps to pinpoint where i am. The only sucky thing with google maps is you have to get the turn by turn navigation first then you can toggle gps off. Sygic does not rely on built-in gps enable in order for it to work. This is all great the next time I go to Yellowstone National park, since cell signal there sucks for T-mobile. With the external gps, you can put it on your hat and go hiking and still get gps to work wether you use online or offline Google maps, Sygic, Locus, or Orux....
To get your device able to use external GPS sensor via bluetooth, all you have to do is
1) buy the bluetooth GPS sensor
2) download & install Bluetooth GPS app on android market by Googoo Android
3) run it, checkmarked "Enable Mock GPS Provider", click Connect
4) go to device Settings, checkmarked "allow mock locations" or equivalent.
5) that's all...use any map software online or offline kind.
The lock I got with this is within 1 second and accuracy of around 6-15ft (on globalsat BT-368i)
You can use this device during hiking to save your cell battery.
You can also use it with mac, pc, windows phone, laptop, tablets that do not have gps sensor built-in with it...all for $12-25...worth it
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Hello everybody,
I have an Ainol Novo 7 Fire Tablet with the feiyu 1031 rom , and I just installed Sygic Maps on it yesterday, I also downloaded the bluetooth gps app by googoo android and when I connected my external bluetooth gps ,I got a lock on my position within seconds. My problem is that when I open Sygic maps, I get the error " Inaccurate Signal for Car Navigation" even though the bluetooth gps app shows me all the available satellites , I have enabled mock location in my setting also but still have no luck in sygic catching the gps signal
Any help or advice would be sincerely appreciated
Thanks
Prakash
praks_khemlani said:
Hello everybody,
I have an Ainol Novo 7 Fire Tablet with the feiyu 1031 rom , and I just installed Sygic Maps on it yesterday, I also downloaded the bluetooth gps app by googoo android and when I connected my external bluetooth gps ,I got a lock on my position within seconds. My problem is that when I open Sygic maps, I get the error " Inaccurate Signal for Car Navigation" even though the bluetooth gps app shows me all the available satellites , I have enabled mock location in my setting also but still have no luck in sygic catching the gps signal
Any help or advice would be sincerely appreciated
Thanks
Prakash
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@prakash, i have ainol novo 7 fire tab with 4.0.4 version i would suggest you to install gps test and see if the app on your tab show the gps status as On in green color and also shows the gps coordinates. one thing i had to do with my tab is downloaded build prop editor app from appstore and edit the gps.enable propery from false to true (requires root access, and my ainol tab had default root access).
remember the ainol tab does not have a build in gps chip which is why you need to turn the above prop to true.
i am successfully using the below combination for my my ainol fire tab
nokia phone with built in gps. using extgp app from nokia to transmit gps coordinates over bluetooth. on my tab using gps bluetooth mouse and i now have gps location shown on google maps, navigator etc.
hope this helps.
venky4rhyme said:
@prakash, i have ainol novo 7 fire tab with 4.0.4 version i would suggest you to install gps test and see if the app on your tab show the gps status as On in green color and also shows the gps coordinates. one thing i had to do with my tab is downloaded build prop editor app from appstore and edit the gps.enable propery from false to true (requires root access, and my ainol tab had default root access).
remember the ainol tab does not have a build in gps chip which is why you need to turn the above prop to true.
i am successfully using the below combination for my my ainol fire tab
nokia phone with built in gps. using extgp app from nokia to transmit gps coordinates over bluetooth. on my tab using gps bluetooth mouse and i now have gps location shown on google maps, navigator etc.
hope this helps.
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I have the same tablet with the same firmware and...
thanks for your answer! It works
AW: GPS alternative fix for android, mac, pc, phones, laptop tablets via bluetooth gp
Where do you get the globesat so cheap?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda app-developers app
I'll have to give this a try and get back to you on the results. Thanks!
testomat said:
Where do you get the globesat so cheap?
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda app-developers app
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Ditto. I would like to know this as well. I'm seeing the 368i for about $60 and the mkii for about $25.
smithmal
Test
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venky4rhyme said:
@prakash, i have ainol novo 7 fire tab with 4.0.4 version i would suggest you to install gps test and see if the app on your tab show the gps status as On in green color and also shows the gps coordinates. one thing i had to do with my tab is downloaded build prop editor app from appstore and edit the gps.enable propery from false to true (requires root access, and my ainol tab had default root access).
remember the ainol tab does not have a build in gps chip which is why you need to turn the above prop to true.
i am successfully using the below combination for my my ainol fire tab
nokia phone with built in gps. using extgp app from nokia to transmit gps coordinates over bluetooth. on my tab using gps bluetooth mouse and i now have gps location shown on google maps, navigator etc.
hope this helps.
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Hi Everyone
Thanks for all the great info.
I have a Novo8 Discover with 4.1.1 trying to connect to a Samsun Captivate via bluetooth. I have tried all the fixes above except couldn`t find gps enable property so i changed gpswithwifi from 1 to 0. This allowed GPS Mouse to show connected but says unable to compute gps data. Also have GPS NMEA Sender installed on phone but on trying to connect says java.io IOError. Seems that I am close but am still doing something wrong. I have tried all sorts of things and spent a lot of time on this.
Any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you and best regards,
Robin
I use a Nokia LD3W with my Vibrant and it works fantastic. I use it while racing my motorcycle and the data refresh rate is so much higher and accurate than the internal, it works excellent.
Thanks for the reply.
My Discover doesn't have internal GPS so there is a bit of trickery involved to make it work. How is your battery life?
Truth is I bought the wrong tablet for my intended application. The company I bought it from said it had GPS and I took their word for it.
Haven't had time to mess with it lately but will keep you posted when I do get it running.
Regards
Robin
GPS problems
Hi everyone,
I realize the I don't have the time or skill to make this work.
I have an External GSP model BU-353 w/USB. I have ordered a female USB to male Micro USB.
I hope to make this work on my Novo8 Discover.
First, is it possible to make this into an accurate, reliable GPS?
Second, how much would it cost to have some pro help to make this work?
Thank you and regards,
Robin