GPS not working - Touch HD General

I have tried to search but got no results with term GPS so I`m starting new thread.
My gps is not working. I tried different radios, roms and still nothing.
HTC gps tool cannot get fix. GPS Test finds COM4 port but it shows only 'GPS Starting up'. Igo8 shows 'waiting for signal'.
Can be gps faulty? Everything else on the phone works perfectly.
I have disabled A-gps, I have actual data trough quick gps and still nothing.
Thanks for any advice.

pete777 said:
I have tried to search but got no results with term GPS so I`m starting new thread.
My gps is not working. I tried different radios, roms and still nothing.
HTC gps tool cannot get fix. GPS Test finds COM4 port but it shows only 'GPS Starting up'. Igo8 shows 'waiting for signal'.
Can be gps faulty? Everything else on the phone works perfectly.
I have disabled A-gps, I have actual data trough quick gps and still nothing.
Thanks for any advice.
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Have you downloaded latest satellite information using app QuickGPS?

yes I have

any other advice?please

My 2 cents
I don't know if this will be of any help to you, but can you confirm that someone else's phone can actually get a GPS lock in your area.
I had a weird experience last summer, my ATT Fuze at the time, was getting a lock here in Florida within 5-6 seconds. Then I went on a trip by car to Canada, and when I was somewhere in North Carolina, I could not get GPS lock at all. It was high up in the mountains with clear sky above me but no lock ever. Couple of driving hours later it was working perfectly, the same in Toronto area. On my way back, in the same area, it could not get a lock at all again. It worked perfectly anywhere else afterward.
Not sure how to explain it. Is it possible that the GPS signal in that area was so weak?

i tried my friends HD and he catched signal from the same place in few seconds, so it really looks like my device is faulty. Is there any way to test gps receiver?

you can check your if bluetooth and wifi signal work properly. if you can't find bt or wifi signal. Maybe you gps/wifi/bt antenna unfastened. My HD came with the same problem last year. I opened my HD and reconnected the two anternna and everything went ok.

olioch said:
you can check your if bluetooth and wifi signal work properly. if you can't find bt or wifi signal. Maybe you gps/wifi/bt antenna unfastened. My HD came with the same problem last year. I opened my HD and reconnected the two anternna and everything went ok.
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i have the same problem...
hove do you reconnect the two antenna ?
regards
Phil

philippe_wurtz said:
i have the same problem...
hove do you reconnect the two antenna ?
regards
Phil
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see the pic below. the connector is on the other side of the tf slot
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my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?

pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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i read your post carefully and find that you can get gps fix. so it is no problem with anternna.
if you want to test your gps hardware, you can use an app called "htc gps tool". your problem may caused by software or settings. try do hard reset or flash a new rom

I already flashed multiple roms, tried different radios..nothing..
I`m using htc gps tool but I dont know how to check if there is gps hardware problem. I just dont get fix.

do you live near to military area?

pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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Pete, just check both of those 2 black cables to make sure they are snapped down. One is GPS (by volume bottons) the other is BT and WIFI. If, you can't keep them snapped down after re-assmbly, then put a dab of Gorilla Glue, let dry 4hrs and re-assemble - that will hold for ever.

pete777 said:
my wifi and bluetooth is working correctly. Does these two share the same antenna with gps or gps is another one?
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Pete, just check both of those 2 black cables to make sure they are snapped down. One is GPS (by volume bottons) the other is BT and WIFI. If, you can't keep them snapped down after re-assmbly, then put a dab of Gorilla Glue, let dry 4hrs and re-assemble - that will hold for ever.

so there is a possibility that my gps cable is disconnected?

pete777 said:
so there is a possibility that my gps cable is disconnected?
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Yes, maybe from a drop that popped the cable loose. If, you're not affraid to void warranty (or it's out of warranty), then as last resort - I would open the device and carefully check the cables. Remember, I would first reflash back to a ROM that I knew the GPS was working on before digging in. There are posts in the HD forum that have disassembly/assembly videos of how to repair the HD.

I opened my HD and it was loose gps cable. Just connected it back and its working perfectly. Thanks for all advices.

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GPS Unite & Software

I purchased the Holux GPSlim 236 and now looking for a software for it. I was looking around and like the iGuidance v3.0. Does anyone know if those two pair will work on the Cingular 8125? Thanks.
iGuidance 3
I have seen people that were using iG3 on their wizards and said it worked great. Your BT GPS module should work fine as well. I personally think that iG3 is the best option for the Wizard family since it uses the least amount of system resources of most any software option and has the easiest to use setup for maps.
You are probably going to want to use OMAPClock to overclock the CPU to use IGuidance. It works fairly well without being overclocked but can take 30 seconds to a minute to reroute if you miss a turn. It's definately a lot slower to update your position than when I have it paired with my laptop. I want to test this out again with the CPU overcloced to see what gains I will see, but I seem to have misplaced my Bluetooth GPS receiver...haha
I also have the Holux GPSlim 236 and I use it with Tomtom, it takes a while to start, but once loaded it works perfectly without overclocking and reroutes in no time at all
I just got my Iguidance 3 and Holux bundle in the mail yesterday.
Hehehe...all day at work i was anxiously waiting for quittin time while watching the Holux charge up...also installing IG3 on my MDA.
When i got home, spent 5-10 mins installing the mount, then off i was...so far works great...
pat12 said:
I also have the Holux GPSlim 236 and I use it with Tomtom, it takes a while to start, but once loaded it works perfectly without overclocking and reroutes in no time at all
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I looked at both, and I think the only reason that iguidance would take longer to reroute, is that the maps are more detailed? This is a guess, because I looked at my usa state's map, and on tomtom its 30 megs, but on iguidance, its 66 megs.
Just a possibility.
I have heard however, the maps for iguidance are much better in the usa than tomtom's usa maps.
Hi, i also plan on getting a GPS, and i need a full crash course.
can someone help me out?
cons and pros cheapest and the best GPS thing and the programs.
also screen shots of how they look would be nice.
i don't drive often since i live in NYC, but i could find a GPS handy, and i could go Geo cache in central park.
thnks!
IG3 Screenshots
I don't have my gps unit hooked up but this gives you the basic idea of IG3. It's a great program and runs much faster on a laptop or my Dell Axim. This is noticably slower but works well since I always have this with me. To store Oregon and Washington maps on my storage card takes up about 125Mb of storage on my 2Gb mini sd card. There's still lots of room for programs, email attachments and music.
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I use iGuidance 2.1.3 or so with my HTC wizard and a Holux GPSlim236 and it works AMAZING! When it needs to recalculate, it takes all of a few seconds! I'll get IG3 at some point i'm sure, but for now 2.1.3 works fine for me...the maps don't seem old.
cool, thanks!
so what do i need? to get started?
do i need a service plan or something?
can i load geo cache stuff with it?
and what did u mean by "This is noticably slower"
thanks!
ps, does anyone live in the city, i wonder how the city maps look like. is it detailed? thanks!
Hey Ray_jai - in the same boat - mine's en route!
I'm not only new to the GPS usage, but only just ordered the MDA itself - and it's my first cell&net driven PDA! I have the GPS unit coming also and will be (trying) to set it up quickly....
....and it's my first GPS as well!
I've been using IG3 now for just about a week. And it being my first GPS i think its great.
I live in the city, and general just use the map function to see where i am, (not for directions cuz i generally know where i am). However i've tested it out in the twisty curvy roads of the suburbs just outside Boston, MA, and i'll tell u it works like a charm. I even tested out how fast it re-calculates when i purposely ignored a turn, it literally took 5 seconds to give me a new route to get me back in the correct direction.
I've also found new faster routes and shortcuts to get to friends' places that i've been going to for years.
Just to answer a few questions...
Things needed:
You need a pocketpc...in the case of this sub-forum a Wizard.
GPS Software, (IGuidance, TomTom, ur choice) I chose IG3
GPS Receiver (i chose the Holux GPSlim)
A miniSD card to store ur map info...depending on ur state or states...these could take a few megs. I have the whole north and central east coast loaded, and it takes up about 300 mbs.
A car :shock: (not necesary, u could keep the receiver in ur pocket and walk around)
And some reading on these forums to make sure u have ur Wizard setup and ready for the software install. (i.e. My stock Tmobile rom had hidden the additional GPS settings on the MDA, had to perform a registry tweak to unhide it).
There is no subscription or anything needed.
only thing u need to shell out is the money to buy the software and the receiver. And perhaps ur electricty bill when u charge these devices up.
For those considering...check out buygpsnow.com or semsons.com for a great price on their bundles.
thanks!!!
the screen shots on the site is different from urs...
are those just stock photos? thanks
does the GPS itself need a memory stick?
and is there a smaller gps unit? thanks!
and which site do u guys trust more?
can anyone provide links and/or upload any of the programs needed for GPS to work. im really interesting in this.
the blues said:
can anyone provide links and/or upload any of the programs needed for GPS to work. im really interesting in this.
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you have to buy a GPS receiver and you have to buy GPS map software...like iGuidance or TomTom
On a similar note, is there anyway to stop the screen turning off when im using my gps software like memorymap? I dont mind the light going off but id like the screen to stay on. Ive got a feeling that when the screen turns off the gps stops tracking within memory map and then guesses where the route went when turned back on.
gooshy said:
On a similar note, is there anyway to stop the screen turning off when im using my gps software like memorymap? I dont mind the light going off but id like the screen to stay on. Ive got a feeling that when the screen turns off the gps stops tracking within memory map and then guesses where the route went when turned back on.
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i'm pretty sure it continues to work. I tested it the other day driving through the canyon from PCH to my house. I didn't touch it the whole 11 mile stretch. The screen was off for at least 20 minutes and when I exited the canyon, i told me where to go. 8)
Is there a demo or something for iG3? I have TomTom and I really don't like the directions it gives me. I hope the engines aren't the same.
I've been thinking about getting GPS for a while now. I'm just hesitant to dump $170 for a receiver and software.

Inexpensive TMC Reciever or alternative

Hey does anyone know where i can find a tmc reciever for our phones that work with igo 8 I've been searching google for the last 3 hours and i'm tired of looking so if someone could give me a hand i would appreciate it. most of the tmc receivers i've seen are combined with gps which i dont need especially for the 150 bucks they want for them.
GNS are advertising a launch of TMC only receivers.
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=72&L=1
Hi,
I have baught one TMC Bluetooth from GNS and it works fine with Igo8!! The only problem, is that for the moment, Igo8 doesn't decode TMC Premium but only free TMC.
The bluetooth one is very good because, it's hidden in the car and you don't need to unplug it when you leave the car! Exept if you want to keep it with you...
cinebob said:
Hi,
I have baught one TMC Bluetooth from GNS and it works fine with Igo8!! The only problem, is that for the moment, Igo8 doesn't decode TMC Premium but only free TMC.
The bluetooth one is very good because, it's hidden in the car and you don't need to unplug it when you leave the car! Exept if you want to keep it with you...
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Very interesting, do you mean you got this version, looped in the car radio antenna coax cable? I think it's useful to mount it hidden in the dashboard, in the end, I'd only need TMC while driving, not when using GPS apps on the Kaiser elsewhere...
How does this receiver get powered, is it supposed to be always on, and as soon as you approach with the Kaiser you can pair it?
Hi,
It isn't exactly this one, mine is the same but with different antenna connector. The connector are fakra, your link is for iso connector. But the device is the same, so you have to check your antenna connector before buying. I baught directly from germany but I don't know if they send out of europe...
For the power connector, you just have to plug the red cable to the 12v of your car. To prevent decharging the battery, I have plug it to a non permanent 12v (swithed with the key), and so you can also reset the tmc receiver.
After it's bluetooth, so you can connect near and in the car...
When you have made a bluetooth association,, you just have to create a serial port to be recognised is your gps software...
Hope it's help you.
cinebob said:
Hi,
It isn't exactly this one, mine is the same but with different antenna connector. The connector are fakra, your link is for iso connector. But the device is the same, so you have to check your antenna connector before buying. I baught directly from germany but I don't know if they send out of europe...
For the power connector, you just have to plug the red cable to the 12v of your car. To prevent decharging the battery, I have plug it to a non permanent 12v (swithed with the key), and so you can also reset the tmc receiver.
After it's bluetooth, so you can connect near and in the car...
When you have made a bluetooth association,, you just have to create a serial port to be recognised is your gps software...
Hope it's help you.
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Thanks for the tip with the switched 12v line, didn't know from their on line pictures what's the red wire for. I'm living in Germany anyway, so shipment will be ok. Damned, I mounted the car stereo myself last year, and now I don't exactly remember if it has the ISO antenna plug, albeit the stereo has a DIN connector, which is coaxial, too but larger, and I think there might be a ISO-to-DIN adapter in my Mazda Tribute, (sibling of the US Ford Escape), then I'm in luck, otherwise I'd have to order such an adapter, too. The Haynes manual or some internet research might reveal the connector type before extracting the unit again...
Heres a question, as the Kaiser doesnt have an inbuilt FM radio, but the Rapheal will do, do you think it will be possible to use the inbuild Fm radio to pickup TMC instead of using a BT dongle?
For Zoolooc:
The Red wire, is for the 12v power, the ground is made by the antenna connector.
And yes, there are adaptators for antenna connector!!
For leaskovski:
only if it can read RDS on fm radio!
I bought a TMC receiver of that company. it is built in a car power cable...
long story short: it doesn't work on the kaiser with IGO8
With my kaiser, it works... but only with free tmc...
I will try the 8.0.0.29000 witch works with Premium tmc... I'll tell you when i'll have repaired my kaiser!
cinebob said:
Hi,
I have baught one TMC Bluetooth from GNS and it works fine with Igo8!! The only problem, is that for the moment, Igo8 doesn't decode TMC Premium but only free TMC.
The bluetooth one is very good because, it's hidden in the car and you don't need to unplug it when you leave the car! Exept if you want to keep it with you...
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Which model have you baught and where?
I have baught the FM9BT-Y FKR
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=78
TMC Premium works with igo 8.0.0.41506!!!
Do these receivers work in USA? Thanks!
I think so...
Gns Products are compatible with most TMC Services (Premium):
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cinebob said:
I have baught the FM9BT-Y FKR
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=78
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Could you give us a picture of your TMC device ?
I can't figure out, how it looks like. And their Web site doesn't help.
Thanks
Chris

HTC Sedna and Tomtom

Hi,
Have someone any idea about using Tomtom with the Sedna integrated GPS ?
Thanks.
My p6500 from orange works fine with tomtom 6 using the internal gps. Also I-go 8 works fine too.
I got TomTom 5.21 working with no problem.
Same here Tomtom v6 works a treat
I have Tomtom 6, and I can't see how to connect to the built-in gps receiver, how do I do this?
I've tried:
Change preferences > Show GPS Status > configure and the available options are:
TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver
TomTom wired GPs receiver
Other Bluetooth GPS receiver
Other NMEA GPS receiver
But none of these work. Currently, 'Other Bluetooth GPS receiver' works with my external one, but if I could use the built-in one it would be much nicer. One less thing sliding around on the dashboard!
On the subject of GPS, what's that quickGPS all about? The manual says very little about it.
xmastree, use Other NMEA GPS receiver, then pick the correct one, on my Orange M700 it is GPS in COM9, I think the Sedna is different, my trial unit went back months ago. You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
I liked quickGPS. Normally a GPS chip only knows about the local satellites where the chip is manufactured, in this case Taiwan, and does not know where to look in the sky for sats good for the UK the first time you use it. It can take up to 2 hours before you get lock. quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
woodvale said:
You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
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Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
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Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
xmastree said:
Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
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You're welcome. I was quoting my Orange M700 settings on WM5 AKU3, the Sedna was WM6 and I trialled it about 4 months ago, don't expect me to remember the detail.
Did not spot the 7 day quickGPS refresh on mine, but I would not think this would be a lot of traffic, they're aren't many GPS satellites!
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I was stationary at the time.
Comparing the built-in one and my external bluetooth receiver:
No contest really, is it?
And here I am, supersonic, somewhere over the North sea. I was actually in Kirkham, Lancashire.
xmastree said:
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I've been using an Orange M700 (HTC 3600 [Trinity]) WM5 AKU3 for almost a year now with the same GPS chip as in the Sedna (HTC P6500) with no ill effects. Only downside is it is a bit slow to lock, sometimes 60 seconds, but once locked is fine. Initially it was in a screen sucker cradle but my cig socket for the power is mounted in a centre console level with the back of the drivers seat so the coiled cable was constantly springing out so I switched to putting the unit in the drinks holder way BELOW and underneath the dashboard in my personal car where you would not expect good signal but it is not a problem in all driving conditions.
We recently bought 35 Sednas and I have 3 deployed now in a live pilot not using cradles and only one suffers. His company car has a metallised screen (to cut UV radiation, a Picasso) which also stops the GPS signal. There is a small area of the screen not screened just behind the rearview mirror where we have the existing external GPS receiver that was used to supply his previous PDA cradle that did not have GPS. We will be re-fitting this to a new cradle due to be fitted in the next few days. The other 2 units have no problems, but are different cars.
I took my base build sedna on the road over the weekend in my own car without UV screening and it was as good as the M700. I even put it on the passenger seat and on the floor, still good as gold.
So I think it is your car that is the problem, you'll have to use an external GPS antenna, unless ............. My previous trial P6500 was WM6.0 but that also worked fine in my same car as now, the new ones are WM6.1, but I doubt it.
Regards QuickGPS 7 day refresh, now I have the P6500 back, it is a waste of time, you only need to sync once in the UK after a hard reset. QuickGPS was not available on the M700 so I couldn't comment before. I synced my base build P6500 2 months ago once, used it in the image to be burned on the 35 new ones and they've all picked up fine in practice.
Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
xmastree said:
Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
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Ask your Peugeot dealer about the screen (and side windows). I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door. I would not expect a GPS receiver to lock in these conditions, or at least be very slow and freeze, how the hell is it going to lock onto 5 simultaneous satellites with no line of sight in a car, especially if all the windows have UV screening?
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
woodvale said:
I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door.
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It's not below the dash, it's on top, in clear view from above.
FWIW, during a rather 'spirited' launch this morning, the bluetooth receiver ended up in the passenger footwell and still got a better signal.
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
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Not sure about that. The bluetooth receiver has the GPS chip in it whereas an external antenna plugged into the PDA will just pick up the satellite signals and feed them to the PDA's gps chip.
Sygic
Took tomtom off my Sedna and installed the latest Sygic v824.
Could not make iGo8 to work.
Took tomtom of my Sedna and installed Sygic latest v824.
Tried to install iGO8 but the phone keeps getting stuck.

No Satellite info with new ROM

This is probably better off in the ROM forum, but since I don't do custom ROMS I never go in there myself and was hoping that someone here might have the answer.
I'm running ROM 1.56.405.1 (43972) WWE with radio version 1.13.25.24
and when using tomtom, I get no satellite info. Not a major problem I suppose, but just annoying.
Is there a better radio I could use that would give me back the sat info?
thanks
the same
i have the same problem with the miri V13 - ROM
thanks for reply
First tip would be to turn off Active GPS. Makes my TomTom app go screwy and have problems with satellites.
Secondly, check your Quick GPS satellite data and make sure its up to date.
Failing that, theres some HTC GPS Tool floating around this site and people a load more knowledgable about these things should be along soon to help diagnose and fix.
The A-GPS thing fixed all TomTom GPS problems for me and I can nail down a signal indoors in under one minute.
try disable A-GPS
thanks but I think you may have misunderstood.
I have no trouble getting a GPS signal (A-gps is already diasbled and my quick GPS infor is up to date).
but, in tomtom for example when it should show how many satellites I'm connected to, it always says none.
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This is probably better off in the ROM forum, but since I don't do custom ROMS I never go in there myself and was hoping that someone here might have the answer.
I'm running ROM 1.56.405.1 (43972) WWE with radio version 1.13.25.24
and when using tomtom, I get no satellite info. Not a major problem I suppose, but just annoying.
Is there a better radio I could use that would give me back the sat info?
thanks
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which version of tomtom are you using ?
it's not tomtom that's the problem. it's because I've upgraded my ROM (official one) and now the radio isn't correctly givng me the satellite info.
so, I was hoping that someone could give me an idea of the latest stable radio version that would give me back the sat info.
i to am having this problem, and its very annoying.
I'm sure someone has mentioned this before and all it was was the TT version. I'm running 7.915 and have no problem. I think it's all down to the version not currectly supporting the rom.
Check you version anyone and report back
if that's the case then it has to be a combination of both. I'm running 7.45 too, and as I said, it used to report perfectly fine before i upgraded my ROM/Radio
Check your pm Twisted!
Hi, I saw the same here. TomTom 7.910.9185, but only the first time I launched it.
After using another GPS program, TomTom now detects the GPS receiver faster and shows coordinates and satellite info.
Tried to set it to "internal GPS receiver" and NMEA on COM4 and it works with both.
EDIT: The phone has the official HTC ROM and radio from April
EDIT2: It happens when the phone is in fligh mode (with phone, WiFi and bluetooth off). Tomtom never liked this and seems to think that you always need bluetooth to access the GPS receiver. In fact it gets the position data but not the satellite data when in fligh mode.

How I got my eLocity to execute Google Maps with GPS location support

I have Google Maps with GPS location support on my eLocity. This is a short note describing what I put together -- I did no work here, I just found the appropriate notes left by others.
Update: Navigation works too. See below.
I had an eLocity that I put Dexter's v1.42 on. But the market on that does not show Google Maps. So I put Bestialbub's fix on top of that. And that did display google maps, so I downloaded it. However, for whatever reason, the resulting market was very unstable, and would force close, even as a background task when I wasn't using it.
But it was good enough to play with. And with it I got the fundamentals working, however, I did end up reflashing with the latest stock eLocity firmware and installing Bestialbub's market on top of that.
So I installed Google Maps on the eLocity.
The eLocity does not have a GPS, so you need some external GPS device. I used my Nexus One and an app called Bluetooth GPS Output
I believe that app cost a couple of bucks, and there are free apps that will do the samething and should work, but I found pretty good instructions on how to get Bluetooth GPS Output to work here.
What Bluetooth GPS Output does is to take the GPS information on my Nexus One and make it available over bluetooth to any connected bluetooth device that wants it.
I then basically followed the instructions from here.
Bluetooth Pair your phone and Archos tablet (I have the Archos 70 250 gb)
Open Bluetooth GPS out on your phone,and turn it on, you should see a screen showing satellite info
Archos Settings/Location and Security/Bluetooth GPS, then select my paired phone. If that is grayed out, try opening up the app on your phone before actually pairing your Archos with your phone.
Open up maps and enjoy the Navigation!
But the last step isn't that simple because the eLocity doesn't support Bluetooth GPS in the Location & security settings page.
But there are workarounds....
Similar to Bluetooth GPS Output, there are apps that do the reverse. Listen for a Bluetooth GPS Stream, and convert that into an internal android source.
And for that, I chose, an application called BluetoothGPS -- similar name, different developers.
I installed that on the eLocity.
At this point I made the eLocity discoverable over bluetooth and discovered it on my Nexus One. The two devices said they were paired but not connected. I'm not sure what that means. And still with this working, I still see on the eLocity, the Bluetooth is active but not really connected icon, while the Nexus shows a bluetooth connection has been made (though that could be indicating a connection with its dock which is 10 feet away.).
On the Nexus One to get Bluetooth GPS Output talking to Bluetooth GPS I:
Didn't do much if anything in Bluetooth GPS Output, I just started it
On the eLocity, I:
On the device's Application settings page, under development, I enabled "Allow mock locations"
I started the application Bluetooth GPS
On Bluetooth GPS's main tab, I enabled Mock GPS Provider
Bluetooth GPS presented a list box with my Nexus in it, and asked me to connect, so I did.
And on Bluetooth GPS settings tab, I frobbed some reconnect interval settings.
And with that, it basically seems to work. The connection does not seem incredibly stable, I am not sure if it's related to screen display timeouts and devices sleeping, or some other source of flakiness.
But it does seem to work.
So I took it out for a test drive, to see how well it worked. This was typical suburban driving. And only lasted about 30 minutes.
The nexus was plugged into the car, the elocity was on battery. Bluetooth on, Bluetooth GPS Output running, Bluetooth GPS running, and the map showed the current location. Great!
So I directed the map on the eLocity to take us to the post office, and ... waited ... and waited ... and nothing happened.
Aha, it needs data. So I turned on the Nexus One's wifi hotspot, connected the eLocity to that, and, ...
Success! Driving directions and navigation worked just fine, with one caveat. For whatever reason, i would tell me when I started up Navigation that if I wanted voice nav, I needed a plugin from the market, but when I said sure, go get it, the market would force close. However, voice navigation worked anyway.
During the 30 minutes I played with it, the connection between the two devices was nice and stable, and the map always displayed the right location and navigation worked as expected.
The eLocity is a very nice mapper compared to the Nexus One, for whatever reason, at equivalent zoom levels, the eLocity display shows much much more of the surrounding area than does the Nexus One. And physically the screen is about three times larger, and much easier to see in daylight (cloudy day though.)
However, the Nexus One displays a map where your current driving direction is always oriented to the top of the screen. This makes it very easy to orient where the next turn or landmark is.
Presumably because the eLocity does not have a digital compass, the eLocity always displays north to the top of the screen. This can be better at sometimes, as when you are trying to get a feel for where a very long route will take you, and worse at other times, when you're just trying to navigate through streets.
But all in all, pretty cool.
Note the Google Maps blue location dot:
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grax!!!!!
Thanks!!!! great tutorial!!!!!!!

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