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What is the best XDA2 cradle for the car?

Im looking at getting a cradle for my XDA2 so that i can view it in the car. i would prefer one that i could attach an optional charge cable too but dont want to have it trailing around my car permanently. i was wondering what all you enlightened peeps would recommend for use. are there any to avoid?
Cheers

I have just got this week a perfect mount for the XDA II, but it is a mount only - you need to sort out your own cables..
It's a slightly modified magnetic mount: It has a goosneck , a sucker at one end and a magnet with soft bed a the other. You attach the sucker to your windscreen.
The idea is you attach a steel pad to the back of your unit, and then it will stick to the magnetic soft bed; but I didn't do this... I got a 50mm sqaure piece of thin magetic metal (0.5 mm). this fits snugly on the inside of the unit between the back case and the battery! It still sticks to the magnetic bed, but my unit looks the same as it always did! Looks really tidy in the car (no chunky levers and arms) My XDA- looks the same, it holds it very well. and it only cost me £15
The magnet nor the metal plate have any noticable effect on the XDA.
I bought the magnetic mount from eBay
the metal came from a friend, but there various sources...

I use a Brodit carholder for my XDA 2 (Qtek 2020). It works great!!!
http://www.brodit.com/
http://w3.easytrade.net/brodit_shop/product.dip?item=1216061&fid=1216452
They also have ProClip which is designed for each car model, where you mount the carholder.

I use a Carcomm XDAII holder, it also has RS232 Serial & PS/2 ports on the cradle, great for a GPS mouse, www.carcomm.nl .
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I think the perfect for XDA is this
there are millons of good car mount solutions for PDAs, but for XDA in perticualr, i think this is the best, becuase it gives your the maximum view on xda's LCD, especailly when you use your XDA as in Car GPS navigator.
it's on SALE here at Ebay together with GPS Kit for all you need for a trable free in-Car Navigation system.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5117448278&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
thanks

If you use the forum search feature with "car kits" you will find other options including photos of the unit I have as well as others.

I'd love to buy the Carcomm unit, but who sells it? Their site doesn't let you buy. Any ideas on a vendor in the US, or one that will ship here?
Also, does that unit have a speaker, or just power and GPS? What's the GPS interface (PS/2, DB9, etc)?

TotalPDA www.totalpda.co.uk sell them here in the UK, see here, and they do offer an international order facility. The unit doesn't have a built-in speaker but the interfaces are:
12vpower
1 x RS232 DB9
1 x PS/2
They also sell PS/2 adapter leads for the most popular GPS Mice such as Leadtek, Holux etc. I have a review of the iPAQ version on-line here. They're very high quality cradles, coupled with a Safety Clip you can mount the cradle in-car without needing to drill any holes.
I'm also a big fan of Brodit Cradles, they have an XDAII model and have ProClip mount solutions for most vehicles, the US Website is www.proclipusa.com and the EU one is www.brodit.com .

Very helpful, thanks! The Carcomm looks great, just wish it had audio. It's down to that or the "official" car kit, but... Anyone know if the i-mate Car Kit has provision for GPS? I called Expansys, and they said they *think* it does not, but weren't sure. Also, any provision for radio mute on any of these?
Also, are all the PS/2 style GPS connectors the same? I have a Deluo unit, which doesn't seem to be listed on any of the compatibility lists.

I can't answer the question re I-Mate Car-kits GPS connector but I believe they do offer a radio mute. However the audio output only works for the Phone Side so GPS Nav Instructions and other PDA audio is not sent through the audio output
AFAIK, PS/2 is a standard but you'd ned to confirm the Deluo's suitability with Carcomm.

bij brodit zijn er verschillende mogelijkheden
Belgen kunnen hiervoor altijd terecht op xanthes.com

The Brodit site doesn't seem to contain any info re prices, that I can see...
I want one for my Mini Cooper, and I presume that if you select the model number for the mini mount and then the xda2 cradle, you're away.
Does anyone have any price info?
Cheers
Anthony

I should charge Brodit commission , in the UK the appointed reseller is Handnav www.handnav.co.uk, theor website has pricing for the different types.

Thank you.
Very informative peeps. just need to make the decision on which one to get now .

My kingdom for a proper cradle...
I want GPS input, a speaker/mic, and drop-in simplicity. Too much to ask for, apparently. I can either wait for one of the upcoming models, or buy one now which is missing one of those features.

The best carkit for the QT2020 or MDAII is now being sold at Yeti; Site is in Dutch, but with pics.
Url:
http://www.yeti.nl/nieuws_040622_01carkit2020.htm
ALthough it is in The Netherlands it's worth a try to contact them if they ship to the UK.
€185 ex VAT.
Some features:
A total solution for the QTek 2020;
handsfree
Plays navigation intructions
Plays from the Windows Media Player
stereo line out
mute-signal for radio/cd-player
12 volts switches off after 1 hour; handy for GPS
one click to attach and de-attach
GPS connector
External antenna connector
Comes with a high quality speaker and mic
audio connector; plays telephonecalls, instructions and MP3 over your carspeakers (if radio has an audio in)

Sounds like exactly what I want! Now, does it really exist, and how the hell do you buy it? I didn't see a purchase button.

Look for the sentence: Klik hier om de carkit te bestellen. Just above the picture.
Translated: press here to order the carkit. And click on the word: "hier" in the sentence.

Hmm, it's a "contact" link, not actually a purchase button. Bet this thing doesn't actually exist... But I'm giving it a try, hopefully someone there speaks English.

Re: I think the perfect for XDA is this
xdapartsfromTW said:
there are millons of good car mount solutions for PDAs, but for XDA in perticualr, i think this is the best, becuase it gives your the maximum view on xda's LCD, especailly when you use your XDA as in Car GPS navigator.
it's on SALE here at Ebay together with GPS Kit for all you need for a trable free in-Car Navigation system.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5117448278&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
thanks
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Not that I don't trust you matey, but has anyone else got something similar and does it work well? Seems a bit cheap considering.
Also, would such a setup constitute a cradle and therefore deemed safe and legal under UK law. I heard somewhere that if the phone is not in what is designated a cradle then it's not classed as a hands free unit??
Thoughts? Ideas?
Anthony

Prophet and headphones?

Hello.. Anyone in here who has managed to find a solution to this problem?
The stock headset is very anoying IMO (The ones that came with the Qtek S200 package).
Therefore I bought a small microjack(male)-to-minijack(famle) adapter.
But when I tried to use this together with my old headphones (which use minijack) I only got sound in my left side.
Im guesing that it has to do with the fact that there is both R,L and Mic channels in the microjack port, and that they are placed in an order, in which the normal R,L microjack, will not connect to the R and L in the port!
Is this correct? And what to do about it?
Thanks

Reef, there are lots of problems with using these adapters, the connection is not steady.
It is suggested to use an adapter that has a wire between the input and output.

I use one without any problems and I get sound in bothe L and R. I am using Radio Shack adapter.

I use one without any problems and I get sound in both L and R. I am using Radio Shack adapter.

I got two
1) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9107022610&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
2) I mod the XDAiis ones, strangely, it works with my Cassette adapter full stereo. When I use my earphones, it only has right side.

acer175 said:
Reef, there are lots of problems with using these adapters, the connection is not steady.
It is suggested to use an adapter that has a wire between the input and output.
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I have several different adapters. Some of them don't make a good connection and I only get one channel (off and on). I ordered this one to use with my navigation system in the car...it has a rock solid connection and a mic! I might add that they sell Martin Fields screen protectors too. http://doml.com/productdec.asp?pid=2149&model=818p&modeln=i-Mate JAMin

http://www.tangshop.com/25mm-to-35mm-adapter.html
Works for me.
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yep, those types are good.
I'm guessing Reef has the compact ones, without a wire between the male and female.

I'm guessing Reef has the compact ones, without a wire between the male and female.
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Exactly.. But the thing is that it works perfectly when i pull i 1mm out and bend it a bit to the left.. Then there is sound in both channals..
I also bought a microjack male with no wires on it, so I gues i can try to make my own.. Just need some wire, some tools and a female minijack..
But did anyone of you know which band is the mic band? The top, middle or bottom? Cause I don't wanna waste any more money..

This is the one I have:
http://www.proshop.dk/ShowProduct.aspx?prodid=34468
Doesn't work..!

Headset
I smashed the headset that came with my 818 Pro in a car door and ruined it. I have been trying to find a replacement that is a better design (that stays on when I run), but have had no luck. I thought I had it in the Jabra C220s. This is a horribly designed product. They actually went out of their way to make it so that it will only play in the left ear when plugged into the PPC / phone. If you use the included adapter it works in stereo, but then the plug is 3.5 mm.
Has anybody found a decent pair of headphones with the microphone to work with the prophet? I imagine any 2.5 mm jacked PPC / Smartphone would be the same.
Thank you.
Tom

Re: Headset
tdaly001 said:
I smashed the headset that came with my 818 Pro in a car door and ruined it. I have been trying to find a replacement that is a better design (that stays on when I run), but have had no luck. I thought I had it in the Jabra C220s. This is a horribly designed product. They actually went out of their way to make it so that it will only play in the left ear when plugged into the PPC / phone. If you use the included adapter it works in stereo, but then the plug is 3.5 mm.
Has anybody found a decent pair of headphones with the microphone to work with the prophet? I imagine any 2.5 mm jacked PPC / Smartphone would be the same.
Thank you.
Tom
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Dopod makes a nice pair of earbuds made to work with all HTC devices and includes a mic. Sold separately, of course. :roll:
Perhaps you can find them where you got your 818pro?

The ideal solution is to dismantle the mic piece (where there's the mic and the headphone wires coming out), unsolder the stock headphones and solder a pair of headphones of your choice. There's a lot of info about this in the Magician forum.
The second option, as Acer mentioned, would be to use the ones with the wire between the 2.5mm male and the 3.5mm female.

i use one without wire and there are no problem at all

I use an adaptor similar to stories, and it works great.
have to say tho, the socket in the Prophet is a bit loose. No big deal tho.

yup...the headset port @ HTC Prophet is a _bit_ loose, so you've got a chance to unplug by accident...
anyway, i also use a 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter, and connected into Senheiser PX100. it's sound good!!!

Inexpensive TMC Reciever or alternative

Hey does anyone know where i can find a tmc reciever for our phones that work with igo 8 I've been searching google for the last 3 hours and i'm tired of looking so if someone could give me a hand i would appreciate it. most of the tmc receivers i've seen are combined with gps which i dont need especially for the 150 bucks they want for them.

GNS are advertising a launch of TMC only receivers.
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=72&L=1

Hi,
I have baught one TMC Bluetooth from GNS and it works fine with Igo8!! The only problem, is that for the moment, Igo8 doesn't decode TMC Premium but only free TMC.
The bluetooth one is very good because, it's hidden in the car and you don't need to unplug it when you leave the car! Exept if you want to keep it with you...

cinebob said:
Hi,
I have baught one TMC Bluetooth from GNS and it works fine with Igo8!! The only problem, is that for the moment, Igo8 doesn't decode TMC Premium but only free TMC.
The bluetooth one is very good because, it's hidden in the car and you don't need to unplug it when you leave the car! Exept if you want to keep it with you...
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Very interesting, do you mean you got this version, looped in the car radio antenna coax cable? I think it's useful to mount it hidden in the dashboard, in the end, I'd only need TMC while driving, not when using GPS apps on the Kaiser elsewhere...
How does this receiver get powered, is it supposed to be always on, and as soon as you approach with the Kaiser you can pair it?

Hi,
It isn't exactly this one, mine is the same but with different antenna connector. The connector are fakra, your link is for iso connector. But the device is the same, so you have to check your antenna connector before buying. I baught directly from germany but I don't know if they send out of europe...
For the power connector, you just have to plug the red cable to the 12v of your car. To prevent decharging the battery, I have plug it to a non permanent 12v (swithed with the key), and so you can also reset the tmc receiver.
After it's bluetooth, so you can connect near and in the car...
When you have made a bluetooth association,, you just have to create a serial port to be recognised is your gps software...
Hope it's help you.

cinebob said:
Hi,
It isn't exactly this one, mine is the same but with different antenna connector. The connector are fakra, your link is for iso connector. But the device is the same, so you have to check your antenna connector before buying. I baught directly from germany but I don't know if they send out of europe...
For the power connector, you just have to plug the red cable to the 12v of your car. To prevent decharging the battery, I have plug it to a non permanent 12v (swithed with the key), and so you can also reset the tmc receiver.
After it's bluetooth, so you can connect near and in the car...
When you have made a bluetooth association,, you just have to create a serial port to be recognised is your gps software...
Hope it's help you.
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Thanks for the tip with the switched 12v line, didn't know from their on line pictures what's the red wire for. I'm living in Germany anyway, so shipment will be ok. Damned, I mounted the car stereo myself last year, and now I don't exactly remember if it has the ISO antenna plug, albeit the stereo has a DIN connector, which is coaxial, too but larger, and I think there might be a ISO-to-DIN adapter in my Mazda Tribute, (sibling of the US Ford Escape), then I'm in luck, otherwise I'd have to order such an adapter, too. The Haynes manual or some internet research might reveal the connector type before extracting the unit again...

Heres a question, as the Kaiser doesnt have an inbuilt FM radio, but the Rapheal will do, do you think it will be possible to use the inbuild Fm radio to pickup TMC instead of using a BT dongle?

For Zoolooc:
The Red wire, is for the 12v power, the ground is made by the antenna connector.
And yes, there are adaptators for antenna connector!!
For leaskovski:
only if it can read RDS on fm radio!

I bought a TMC receiver of that company. it is built in a car power cable...
long story short: it doesn't work on the kaiser with IGO8

With my kaiser, it works... but only with free tmc...
I will try the 8.0.0.29000 witch works with Premium tmc... I'll tell you when i'll have repaired my kaiser!

cinebob said:
Hi,
I have baught one TMC Bluetooth from GNS and it works fine with Igo8!! The only problem, is that for the moment, Igo8 doesn't decode TMC Premium but only free TMC.
The bluetooth one is very good because, it's hidden in the car and you don't need to unplug it when you leave the car! Exept if you want to keep it with you...
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Which model have you baught and where?

I have baught the FM9BT-Y FKR
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=78

TMC Premium works with igo 8.0.0.41506!!!

Do these receivers work in USA? Thanks!

I think so...
Gns Products are compatible with most TMC Services (Premium):
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cinebob said:
I have baught the FM9BT-Y FKR
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=78
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Could you give us a picture of your TMC device ?
I can't figure out, how it looks like. And their Web site doesn't help.
Thanks
Chris

HTC Sedna and Tomtom

Hi,
Have someone any idea about using Tomtom with the Sedna integrated GPS ?
Thanks.

My p6500 from orange works fine with tomtom 6 using the internal gps. Also I-go 8 works fine too.

I got TomTom 5.21 working with no problem.

Same here Tomtom v6 works a treat

I have Tomtom 6, and I can't see how to connect to the built-in gps receiver, how do I do this?
I've tried:
Change preferences > Show GPS Status > configure and the available options are:
TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver
TomTom wired GPs receiver
Other Bluetooth GPS receiver
Other NMEA GPS receiver
But none of these work. Currently, 'Other Bluetooth GPS receiver' works with my external one, but if I could use the built-in one it would be much nicer. One less thing sliding around on the dashboard!
On the subject of GPS, what's that quickGPS all about? The manual says very little about it.

xmastree, use Other NMEA GPS receiver, then pick the correct one, on my Orange M700 it is GPS in COM9, I think the Sedna is different, my trial unit went back months ago. You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
I liked quickGPS. Normally a GPS chip only knows about the local satellites where the chip is manufactured, in this case Taiwan, and does not know where to look in the sky for sats good for the UK the first time you use it. It can take up to 2 hours before you get lock. quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.

woodvale said:
You check the correct one with Start, Settings, System, GPS to find what the hardware is using.
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Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
quickGPS goes to an Internet site over 3G and populates the chip with sat co-ords. My trial Sedna picked up in 2 minutes after using it.
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Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.

xmastree said:
Woo Hoo!
That did the trick. I also checked 'Manage GPS automatically' under 'Access'
Strangely, the settings are under Start, Settings, System, External GPS which seems odd.
Nice, although I wonder why it seems to want to refresh every seven days...
Thanks for the help.
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You're welcome. I was quoting my Orange M700 settings on WM5 AKU3, the Sedna was WM6 and I trialled it about 4 months ago, don't expect me to remember the detail.
Did not spot the 7 day quickGPS refresh on mine, but I would not think this would be a lot of traffic, they're aren't many GPS satellites!

Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I was stationary at the time.
Comparing the built-in one and my external bluetooth receiver:
No contest really, is it?
And here I am, supersonic, somewhere over the North sea. I was actually in Kirkham, Lancashire.

xmastree said:
Having used the built-in receiver for a while now, I'm still not too happy with it.
Most of the time it's fine, but other times it just loses the signal and you get this effect:
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I've been using an Orange M700 (HTC 3600 [Trinity]) WM5 AKU3 for almost a year now with the same GPS chip as in the Sedna (HTC P6500) with no ill effects. Only downside is it is a bit slow to lock, sometimes 60 seconds, but once locked is fine. Initially it was in a screen sucker cradle but my cig socket for the power is mounted in a centre console level with the back of the drivers seat so the coiled cable was constantly springing out so I switched to putting the unit in the drinks holder way BELOW and underneath the dashboard in my personal car where you would not expect good signal but it is not a problem in all driving conditions.
We recently bought 35 Sednas and I have 3 deployed now in a live pilot not using cradles and only one suffers. His company car has a metallised screen (to cut UV radiation, a Picasso) which also stops the GPS signal. There is a small area of the screen not screened just behind the rearview mirror where we have the existing external GPS receiver that was used to supply his previous PDA cradle that did not have GPS. We will be re-fitting this to a new cradle due to be fitted in the next few days. The other 2 units have no problems, but are different cars.
I took my base build sedna on the road over the weekend in my own car without UV screening and it was as good as the M700. I even put it on the passenger seat and on the floor, still good as gold.
So I think it is your car that is the problem, you'll have to use an external GPS antenna, unless ............. My previous trial P6500 was WM6.0 but that also worked fine in my same car as now, the new ones are WM6.1, but I doubt it.
Regards QuickGPS 7 day refresh, now I have the P6500 back, it is a waste of time, you only need to sync once in the UK after a hard reset. QuickGPS was not available on the M700 so I couldn't comment before. I synced my base build P6500 2 months ago once, used it in the image to be burned on the 35 new ones and they've all picked up fine in practice.

Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.

xmastree said:
Well the car is a Peugeot 307, and the PDA is mounted just to the right of the instrument panel. The bluetooth receiver usually lives in the centre of the dash, but sometimes if it's charging it's right next to the PDA and gets a much better signal.
If I'm going to use an external antenna, I may as well use the bluetooth receiver instead.
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Ask your Peugeot dealer about the screen (and side windows). I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door. I would not expect a GPS receiver to lock in these conditions, or at least be very slow and freeze, how the hell is it going to lock onto 5 simultaneous satellites with no line of sight in a car, especially if all the windows have UV screening?
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.

woodvale said:
I take it you are UK given your screenshots, so I guess to the right of the dashboard panel is below the dashboard top and near to the door pillar between screen and driver's door.
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It's not below the dash, it's on top, in clear view from above.
FWIW, during a rather 'spirited' launch this morning, the bluetooth receiver ended up in the passenger footwell and still got a better signal.
NB Bluetooth GPS is an external antenna as well, it just uses BT instead of a real cable.
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Not sure about that. The bluetooth receiver has the GPS chip in it whereas an external antenna plugged into the PDA will just pick up the satellite signals and feed them to the PDA's gps chip.

Sygic
Took tomtom off my Sedna and installed the latest Sygic v824.
Could not make iGo8 to work.

Took tomtom of my Sedna and installed Sygic latest v824.
Tried to install iGO8 but the phone keeps getting stuck.

[REQ] How to start the car kit mode?

As the title says ... I ask how to start the car kit mode?
I did search for about two days and didnt get an answer, neither here or anywhere else in the world wide web.
For those of you how dont understand the difference between the car kit mode and the NaviPanel.exe ... please dont post a hyperlink to one of the countless navipanel threads. I already know the hardware suggestion by Bob but I am more interested in a software solution!
I use a parrot hands free set in my car and want to use the automatic bluetooth connection function which get started by car kit mode.
So please, If anyone knows, post a solution for it.

From my experience it's all down to how the bluetooth device anounces itself.
If it's sending out that it's a headset then your phone will connect as though it's a headset.
Go into the Bluetooth app on your phone, expand your parrot in the list and see what services it has.
My car radio is a Sony Xplod with bluetooth, it's got Stereo Audio and Hands free, but no car kit.
However if I get into the car with BT turned on on my Leo, they connect, even if I've got the Leo set to invisible.
Up until now the handsfree has connected automatically, but the Stereo Audio needed a manual push (set radio to BT audio and press "pause" button to get it to connect to phone), but I've noticed that if I go into the properties of Hands Free or Stereo Audio, I've got the option to "Connect seperately to Bluetooth hands-free and stereo audio services" which I've now disabled so hopefully tonight when I get in the car it will connect both
So, go into your BT app on your phone, check what services it has listed under the parrot device and see if CarKit is there, if it is, hold your finger on it and go to its properties to see if you can set it as default.
Chances are the parrot only presents itself as handsfree as many older phones or low end ones can't handle the CarKit service.
I'm suprised that as they're paired the phone doesn't automatically connect when you get in range of the parrot though (when you have BT turned on)

You could just create a shortcut to NaviPanel.exe which is located in Windows, and put in as a quicklink? Works for me.

xaccers said:
From my experience it's all down to how the bluetooth device anounces itself....
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The problem is not the connection. Maybe I described my request wrong. If blue tooth is already activated, the parrot and HD2 connect immediately. The problem is the always on Bluetooth function which costs a lot of battery power.
With my former device (Diamond) I used that application which started and closed bluetooth automatically while power was on USB. But with the HD2 it wont work. I dont know why!?
If car kit mode gets activated, it activates Bluetooth by itself and closes it again. So the question is again, how could the Car Kit mode be activated?!?!?
MalekoUK said:
You could just create a shortcut to NaviPanel.exe which is located in Windows, and put in as a quicklink? Works for me.
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Maleko,
go back to post 1 and read very carefully. Thanks

An alternative to the hardare fix you linked is to just use your old 12v mini usb lead you have for your diamond in conjunction with a usb mini to micro adapter - I got one a motorola one for £1 on ebay.
This tricks the HD2 into thinking you have connected the 'official' car kit
I know you are looking for a software solution but why bother when you can have a hardware one for only £1!

rabthecrab said:
An alternative to the hardare fix you linked is to just use your old 12v mini usb lead you have for your diamond in conjunction with a usb mini to micro adapter - I got one a motorola one for £1 on ebay.
This tricks the HD2 into thinking you have connected the 'official' car kit
I know you are looking for a software solution but why bother when you can have a hardware one for only £1!
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I am not sure, that I got you right? The Diamond never had such thing like Car-Kit-Mode. So the Power cables I used were the original Mini-USB cables from HTC with the 230 Volt Charger and I used an ordinary active Bordit Mobile holder with only PIN 1 and PIN 5.
Which adapter do you mean? I am not sure, that this can work?

extrapurifier said:
The problem is not the connection. Maybe I described my request wrong. If blue tooth is already activated, the parrot and HD2 connect immediately. The problem is the always on Bluetooth function which costs a lot of battery power.
With my former device (Diamond) I used that application which started and closed bluetooth automatically while power was on USB. But with the HD2 it wont work. I dont know why!?
If car kit mode gets activated, it activates Bluetooth by itself and closes it again. So the question is again, how could the Car Kit mode be activated?!?!?
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Ok that makes sense
My bluetooth being always on doesn't drain the battery that much faster so it's not been a problem for me.
Until someone comes up with an updated version of bluepower (looks like a good app too!) or an alternative, how about installing SPB shell 3.5?
It's got a handy button on the home screen for controlling the on/off for phone, bluetooth, wifi and airplane mode.
The trial is free for 15 days so you've got nothing to lose by trying it.
PS I've got a 12v charger for my HD2 and all it does is charge, it doesn't put the phone into carkit mode.

xaccers said:
Ok that makes sense
My bluetooth being always on doesn't drain the battery that much faster so it's not been a problem for me.
Until someone comes up with an updated version of bluepower (looks like a good app too!) or an alternative, how about installing SPB shell 3.5?
It's got a handy button on the home screen for controlling the on/off for phone, bluetooth, wifi and airplane mode.
The trial is free for 15 days so you've got nothing to lose by trying it.
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I know the work around soultions already. It is also possible do set a toogle button on main screen via Cookies Home Tab Editor. but that isn't what I requested. I want a full automatic function like Blue Power was
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PS I've got a 12v charger for my HD2 and all it does is charge, it doesn't put the phone into carkit mode.
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Of course, it doesn't, because for automatic activation of car-kit-mode you need that!

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Of course, it doesn't, because for automatic activation of car-kit-mode you need that!
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That is awesome!
The car USB socket charger which came with a cheap but decent cradle from ebay is a 1A charger, which I need to take apart as the end contact needs soldering back to the board inside.
I wonder if it would be easier to solder the 10K resistor to the socket rather than trying to break open the USB lead.

xaccers said:
That is awesome!
The car USB socket charger which came with a cheap but decent cradle from ebay is a 1A charger, which I need to take apart as the end contact needs soldering back to the board inside.
I wonder if it would be easier to solder the 10K resistor to the socket rather than trying to break open the USB lead.
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The problem is, that most of the car charger dont have all five pins conneced to wires in the cabel The active Brodit car holder for the Diamond for example only had a blck and red wire connected to the Mini USB port

You might want to check out sbsh's Phoneweaver.

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Maleko,
go back to post 1 and read very carefully. Thanks
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Fantastic use of that image
I took apart my charging socket last night, and there's plenty of gubbins inside (to do with the 12v-5v conversion), but I didn't have my camera handy to take photos, or time to check which pins are bridged.
All pins are present and soldered to the board, but it could be that the wrong two are bridged, ie the two which tell the phone to accept the higher current, rather than the two which tell the phone to accept the higher current and think the car kit is connected.
I'll probably have to remove the actual USB socket from the board and re-connect it to get the right pins bridged.
Of course this presumes that the charger isn't already soldered properly as I've yet to just try it due to the end contact coming unsoldered when I got it.

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So funny

Does no one knows how to start the car kit mode?

Is there really no one out there who knows how to start the car kit mode? No Hacker, Programmer oder ROM cook? I cant believe that?
Please help me with my request!!!

Here comes the solution! Thanks to Cactus for his tool!

I use Phoneweaver to do this. It detects when the power is connected without Activesysnc operating and switches bluetooth on. This is set as car mode. You can also alter other settings in this profile to change the way the phone behaves. I use this with a Parrot CK3100 and it works beautifully.

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I use Phoneweaver to do this. It detects when the power is connected without Activesysnc operating and switches bluetooth on. This is set as car mode. You can also alter other settings in this profile to change the way the phone behaves. I use this with a Parrot CK3100 and it works beautifully.
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I also used Phone Weaver up to Cactus solution. It is very helpfull if you dont prefer landscape mode in car. With the activation of Car-Kit-Mode the phone gets in landscape and will be there since you deactivate Car-Kit-Mode