Really dumb question from a GSM/GPRS noob... - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Bought a used uni from someone here and am trying to get it fixed (no gsm, wifi doesn't work, but otherwise seems fairly stable) I have no intent to use as a phone, just a connected pda around the house. I know I can always buy an sd wifi card, but that's no fun and doesn't teach me anything. I've got it all in pieces here and am hosing it down with contact cleaner, and I have an extremely basic question:
Do I have to have a sim card to use wifi?
Thanks!

No you don't need a sim card for that. I have a second mda pro at home and i don't have a sim card in it but i can still use the internet. So my answer is no.

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Dual sim KING OF DOUBLE CARD with MDA Compact

Hi there,
Some time ago I purchased a KING OF DOUBLE CARD for my MDA Compact. It seems however that this card is not functioning in my PPC.
I am using a MDA Compact with the original T-Mobile ROM. I only partly installed the cabs because I wanted to get rid of the ugly T-mobile colours.
Could someone please provide me with some help?:
1st: does anyone make use of the KING OF DOUBLE CARD
2nd: What Rom do you have
3rd: Do I have to install something in addition?
etc etc.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards
Wilfried
dont know any answers, but I do have a question...how did you make it fit?
I thought it didnt fit in the HTC Magician....so I bought another and carved up my SIMs
works fine though, using Wivit SIm Status Switcher with it to switch SIMs..
you could try it, its a great app
which model did you buy? what do you mean by "carved up my SIMS"?
He probably means a ghost sim, where you cut the chips out of two sim cards and out them into the ghost sim which is normal sim size.
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Double SIM work fine on my XDA mini
Hello all,
Just want to share some info, I use Almighty Bicard on my XDA mini, and it's working fine on it, just turn on your flight mode, then turn off your flight mode than you will get your second SIM.
Or you can use SIM master or SIM MAX, it can handled 8/12 SIM no. on 1 SIM card, but some time you have problem to scan your original SIM card.
Thanks, Vireman
Can you point me to the specific dual sim you use??
I bought the ghost sim and couldn't get it to work, I tried on 4 old sim cards and decided not to cut up my work sim and personal sim.
I have been looking for the other typoes which take the full sim cards.
On another note it may not work because you will need to get the T-Mobile phone unlocked to work with another companies SIM.
My work sim is o2 and would only work after the MDA was unlocked.
You can phone T-Mobile ans they will send you the code to do this for £15.
Hallo ishgrnod,
I use Almighty Bicard, You need to cut your SIM chip and put it together on Almighty Bicard. It work like a switcher, If you restart your phone it will switch to another SIM.
Mostly in my country there no phone lock from the operator, I think your problem come from this side.
Thx. Vireman
Isn't there a universal phone unlocker already on the forums?
I use this cut up dual sim in the UK:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415916094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
from this user:
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=slam1416&iid=6415916094&frm=284
Works fine. Just have a steady hand when you cut, measure twice, cut once
I use an O2 contract and orange PAYG. Some reports say O2 contract doesn't work. Mine does, no problems.
V
I bought a King Of Double Card for my MDA Compact. I cannot get it to fit at all.
I don't really want to chop up my SIM cards either :?
OK, UPDATE:
I got it to fit but the phone will not recognize the cards. I'm using WiViT SIM Status Switcher.
Can anyone suggest recommend a different tool ?
I'm on
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WiViT isn't likely to be the problem - it just reads the operator from your network, and the sim phone number stored in your Sim; you may not have one stored in there (I bloody didn't and thought my EVC programming was at fault). See WiViT's faq, or basically open up Sim Manager on your phone.
But, ignore wivit, just ensure you can make a telephone call with either sim. Then, switch over with STK or flight mode off/on and see if you can make a call with the other Sim. If that works, then your problem is with WiViT. If it doesn't your problem is with the sims. See my other posts on these cut up sims - basically, i think Magician doesn't put enough pressure on the back of the "mini sims", and you need to stick some paper down the back of the metal sleave.
V
PS See the thread on Magician today screens to see my Wivit type software...
Hey V, thanks for the advice...
My problem was down to the single SIM end of the Dual SIM not making contact with the connectors in the phone. I have the King Of Double Card Type, as shown in my crude mockup below. ( I dont dare take mine out to take a picture since it took me all evening to get it in right. So please excuse the picture.)
WiViT is working perfectly now, i made sure my own numbers were stored correctly as you suggested, and all is well.
The only problem is, the back of my MDAc is slightly out...but i can live with that i guess (until the MDA Pro (HTC Universal) is released)
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Can I duplicate a sim card?

I love my wizard, but sometimes I want to take something smaller with me. I have another cellphone, but I don't want to have to pull them apart and switch the sims every time I swap them. Is there anything out there that will make an exact copy of a sim card so i could keep one in both of them and then just turn off one when I'm not using it?
guttrhead said:
I love my wizard, but sometimes I want to take something smaller with me. I have another cellphone, but I don't want to have to pull them apart and switch the sims every time I swap them. Is there anything out there that will make an exact copy of a sim card so i could keep one in both of them and then just turn off one when I'm not using it?
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they do that here in Bulgaria, but you have to be VEERY careful to switch off the unused one..
I know it is a lenghty process and takes a day to clone the card
guttrhead: what country are you in?
Have a search on the board for multi sims or clone sims.
Basically, in Western Europe, you're unlikely to have much success due to the encryption system used in the SIM.
V
Most providers here in europe offer DUO SIM solutions, where they provide you with a second sim with your telephone number so you can put that in a second phone or a car system. Most of them only charge a small one-time fee for it.
Of cource only one of the SIM's can be active.
Cheers
Cactus
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
guttrhead: as le_cactus says, if you can get a 2nd sim, get one.
However, cloning a sim requires cracking its protection. In this country at least, that can be destructive to the sim, and even then, not successful.
I've posted a number of posts on this issue. But I have no experience with US sims...
V
guttrhead said:
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
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Holy crap! This sounds awesome! Have you tried it? I'm thinking of just getting it too!
guttrhead said:
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
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Holy crap! This sounds awesome! Have you tried it? I'm thinking of just getting it too!
Multi SIM Cards avalible here in Thailand as well. Switch by *100# from Phone to Phone (up to 4 phones. Check with your provider!
I've just ordered one of these super sims. Looks like the donkey's dangler, then I can keep my wizard and universal on the go and switch as desired.
If it works of course... :lol:
I have a similar card reader + card... from another copmpany...
It works fine with portuguese cards... I have it for 2 years now...
As naugthy said, it really takes quite a few hours to read(crack) the original... just depends on how fast is your computer... mine took about 8-10 hours per card (2 years ago...)...
But they also warn that cracking the card *may* be destructive for the card... But if it happens, you can try to contact you network provider and ask for a replacement because it «just stopped working»... or something...
Cloner on ebay
It looks good .... but does it allow you to use your telephone service? Reading the details on the advert it seems to me that it only copies the data from your sim but mentions nothing about using it for calls/GPRS/GSM etc.
If it works let us know. I am a bit wary about swapping my sim between my MDA Pro and 6515 and this gadget looks an ideal solution if it really does work (I have my doubts :? ).
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
joebongo said:
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
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We just cant wait to hear from y m8! :lol:
Joost39 said:
joebongo said:
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
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We just cant wait to hear from y m8! :lol:
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Same here. Guess I'll wait a bit on my purchase to see how it worked for you.
Re: Cloner on ebay
cranny said:
It looks good .... but does it allow you to use your telephone service? Reading the details on the advert it seems to me that it only copies the data from your sim but mentions nothing about using it for calls/GPRS/GSM etc.
If it works let us know. I am a bit wary about swapping my sim between my MDA Pro and 6515 and this gadget looks an ideal solution if it really does work (I have my doubts :? ).
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The kit I have has a card reader/writer and copying software. You need to copy/crack the sim card and save it into a file in your disk. You do this for the sims you want to copy (I have 2 cards, one for each network).
After that, you copy these files into the multi-card using the same software, and you're ready to use it.
It works perfectly for calls, gprs, gsm... In the SIM apllications area I have an extra app that enables me to switch between cards.
The card I own (not the one that was posted) only has one problem: it cannot have a PIN.
Can i just get another cingular sim and load the settings onto it, or does it have to be the super sim that comes with it.
guttrhead said:
Can i just get another cingular sim and load the settings onto it, or does it have to be the super sim that comes with it.
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It has to be the superSIM that comes with it...
At first I thought I'd wait for someone else to try the super-sim. Now I am regretting changing my mind.
No problem with the order - nice and quick. Super-Sim, USB sim reader, Installation CD and instruction card in a neat bubble pack. The instructions were not very clear to me (poor translation?) and contained warnings that some sims were not compatible and the copying process may destroy them. The instructions on the CD were a little clearer so I decided to take a chance.
Tried it with the T-Mobile sim from my MDA Pro. 3 Hours later it told me it wasn't going to work. Same for the o2 sim from my XDA2.
Both sims still appear to be working but as I understand it, the more cycles of trying to 'crack' the sims, the more chance of destroying them. This makes me reluctant to try again with different settings.
Sorry if I seem a bit vague but I didn't really know what I was doing. I could have done with better instructions.
Anyone know a little more about this please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=190220#190220
V

Sim Card Cloning?

Is there a way I can clone/duplicate my sim card? I have a 8525 with BB connect but I also have a Blackberry, and I want to have the same chip in both so I can utilize either one without having to swap sim cards all the time. I know that I cannot have both on at the same time, but I am just paranoid about messing with sim card too much.
theoretically you can, but its a very complex progress on the new cards and im not aware of anyone who has cracked it. On older SIM cards it is possible however, so it really depends how old it is.
The problem is network authentication; the card connects to the network which then sends out a 'key'. To connect, the phone must respond with the correct answer which it deciphers from that key. On older sim cards there was a way of tricking the card into giving up the algorithm used to calculate its response, but the security is a lot harder to crack on new cards.
What does those duplicators do that I see all the time. What about the universal cards? I thought there might be a way of using something like that to copy the card. But maybe I am wrong.
You can try this, its the most popular cloning software that will do a full clone (its spanish)
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsimemu.cjb.net%2F&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Like i said, people clone the older cards. It can depend on your network and what checks they perform, etc I know here in the UK the networks are quite tight, but its not the same everywhere.
Thanks, I will check this out and see what I can do with it.

the dev version without sim card possible?

Hello,
I'm from Belgium and I need to use the G1 for my work. I would like to use it without a sim card (or make the phone using the data of mine) but it seems impossible for the device to connect on internet.
I have just received the device today and I really need help. I have tried to find something on the forum but the only interesting thing I have found seems to say that it is possible.
Google is even worse than Apple which is already worse than Microsoft.. is there any good company in this world...
what do you mean use it without a sim card? As in the telephony and data connections with having to use a t-mobile sim card or any simcard?
This is a sim card phone meaning it has to have a simcard in order for you to use the telephony or edge/3g connections. No way around that.
And on a side note, if you want help you probably shouldn't spread your opinions about things that you don't know about and things you make assumptions for.
I can get into Android without having a Sim card inserted on Dev Phone. WLAN works without it.
But when there is a card inserted I cannot skip Sim pin to do things without having mobile operator service.
MacFloid said:
I can get into Android without having a Sim card inserted on Dev Phone. WLAN works without it.
But when there is a card inserted I cannot skip Sim pin to do things without having mobile operator service.
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how do you use the dev phone at the first time? no sim card is working on that f******* phone :/
neoobs said:
This is a sim card phone meaning it has to have a simcard in order for you to use the telephony or edge/3g connections. No way around that.
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This is a "device" that is able of making call... this is not a phone.. you can't call iphones and htc devices "phones"... I don't care about the phone feature, I just need a small device with linux. If it was a phone, it would not need a gmail account... don't talk about things you don't know.
neoobs said:
what do you mean use it without a sim card? As in the telephony and data connections with having to use a t-mobile sim card or any simcard?
And on a side note, if you want help you probably shouldn't spread your opinions about things that you don't know about and things you make assumptions for.
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the fact is that no sim card is working... I'm currently using 3G with my HTC Shift, and using Edge/Gprs with my HTC Touch .. and no problem.. but the HTC Dream doesn't recognize the data plan !
I guess I know much more than you .. and my opinion is like 99% of user should be having this issue... what kind of phone are impossible to use like that ? I have 3 months to make a big project on that phone and I don't even know if it is possible to make it work without playing with hardspl.
That's crazy to see more protection than iPhones, and other htc phones.... 2 weeks to be able to order the phone and then I don't even know if we can make it work in this country ... GREAT !
koala996 said:
the fact is that no sim card is working... I'm currently using 3G with my HTC Shift, and using Edge/Gprs with my HTC Touch .. and no problem.. but the HTC Dream doesn't recognize the data plan !
I guess I know much more than you .. and my opinion is like 99% of user should be having this issue... what kind of phone are impossible to use like that ? I have 3 months to make a big project on that phone and I don't even know if it is possible to make it work without playing with hardspl.
That's crazy to see more protection than iPhones, and other htc phones.... 2 weeks to be able to order the phone and then I don't even know if we can make it work in this country ... GREAT !
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Your issue is an APN issue.
Read one of the APN threads or learn to use the search Mr. Know-it-all.

brick in my pocket...i need help!

iv asked this else were but to no avail,ive just got a vario2 ex voda with a uk t-mobile card in it,i have a few questions to help me before it becomes a door stop.
i got it it had no sd card in it,i put a 4mb card in but the phone wont recognise it,should i just try 128gb?or does everything downloaded require an sd card?
shoulds upgrade to wm6?
ive turned off 3g,but it keeps switching to gprs,does it do this any if 2g reception is poor?or am i going to be charged loads for calls on this?
i downloaded msn messanger,but it wont open,or do i need the sd card in?but got my hotmail on favoriets!
pop3 email wont down load,it asks for domain? im on blueyonder for this?
im also after so killer apps to out do the iphone!!! i want to watch films if that possible,even tho i got a pod 80gb classic!!also im after a pod signature capture program,like the postman/parcel guy uses!!
ive been trawling the net for answers all in getting a headache!!
cherres guys
thunderider said:
iv asked this else were but to no avail,ive just got a vario2 ex voda with a uk t-mobile card in it,i have a few questions to help me before it becomes a door stop.
i got it it had no sd card in it,i put a 4mb card in but the phone wont recognise it,should i just try 128gb?or does everything downloaded require an sd card?
shoulds upgrade to wm6?
ive turned off 3g,but it keeps switching to gprs,does it do this any if 2g reception is poor?or am i going to be charged loads for calls on this?
i downloaded msn messanger,but it wont open,or do i need the sd card in?but got my hotmail on favoriets!
pop3 email wont down load,it asks for domain? im on blueyonder for this?
im also after so killer apps to out do the iphone!!! i want to watch films if that possible,even tho i got a pod 80gb classic!!also im after a pod signature capture program,like the postman/parcel guy uses!!
ive been trawling the net for answers all in getting a headache!!
cherres guys
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In regards to your GPRS query...
3G operates on two levels, 3G and HSDPA.
When you switch 3G off, you go onto the GSM network, which has GPRS and EDGE.
This means, when you switch 3G off, your phone will automatically show the strongest signal, such as GPRS.
When at work, my phone will display 3G, but if i'm out in the sticks, i'm lucky if I get GPRS.
With the phone displaying the network, don't worry about it, your not charged till you use the network, its more informational to you for when you wish to use it.
As for MSN, I used PocketMSN, which I believe I downloaded from here, which works on my handset just perfectly.
Your SD card, where did you buy it from, is it an original card?
I know when I bought my phone, I had to update the WM version, as I wanted to use an 8GB card in it. Wish I could have more, so looking into that stuff now, but may just wait till I get my staff phone from work.
Don't know about anything else tbh, as still learning.
If you're running a stock rom then its probably WM5, it won't recognise anything larger than a 2Gb card, Its not SDHC compliant (which is what your 4Gb card is). You either need to search for and install the wm5/6 sdhc patch or install a later ROM version, WM06/6.1/6.5. You can find these in the WM06 part of the Hermes forum.
Cheers...
Remember to read up on how to Upgrade the ROM in your Hermes. Use the search function. You'll need to Hard SPL it first... GO to the upgrade section and upgrade it to Hard SPL V7 BEFORE you try any other roms so you have a measure of protection if (and when) things go wrong...

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