gprs to edge - software or hardware? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

hi folks, not certain if this should be in networking or development, (so have posted in both)
my question is simple and could do with some advice. is the edge/gprs frequency on the radio a software or hardware setting?
my htc panda does just about everything i need but according to my network (o2 uk) the phone is gprs only. my understanding is that edge runs on the same freqency so i wanted to see if i could change the device to run on edge
is this possible?
any help/advice would be appreciated
cheers
Chris

hardware
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDGE

Rudegar said:
hardware
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDGE
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Cheeris Rudegar,
guess i am stuck at gprs speeds then
if any one knows any way to boost gprs would be grateful

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Triband or quadband? 802.11b or 802.11b/g?

Firstly, I would like to say that my mobile provider is T-mobile (The Netherlands). I have the T-mobile MDA Vario.
I have discovered 2 previous threads concerning contradictions in the hardware of the Wizard/Qtek 9100/MDA Vario.
I know that the original manufactor is HTC Innovation (Taiwan). (Under my battery its labeled as the "WIZA200").
The Qtek site for Europe says it supports quadband, 802.11b/g & EDGE.
http://www.qtek.nu/europe/products/9100/specifications.aspx
However, the Dutch T-mobile site says it supports triband, 802.11b & only support for GPRS.
Triband: GSM 900/1800/1900
WLAN High speed data (802.11b up to 11Mbps)
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Now I am assuming that the Qtek 9100 & MDA Vario devices are hardware wise exactly similar (Seems expensive for HTC to produce slightly different Wizards.). Therefore I came to the conclusion that the it must be locked down through software.
Has anyone been able to unlock some of these features? (E.g. triband -> quadband)
I tested to see if 802.11g would function on my MDA Vario (Through Linksys router working in G-mode only). It didn't work. So I am assuming there are no mistakes on these websites. Also it would be in T-mobiles intrest to lock down these features as the MDA Pro has them, but is a lot more expensive.
If anyone could shed some light on this problem, it would be intresting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&highlight=
Thank you, didn't know there was a new version out. I saw something about version 1.0, but some people were having problems with this, so thought it wasn't a working fix. Quick question regarding the WLAN G 2.0 patch, does it still also allow to be connected to 802.11b only networks?
Anybody still now anything regarding about going from triband to quadband?
Thanks in advance.

HELP HELP HELP!!!! GPRS NOT CONNECTING

i have the usa tmobile MDA and i just flashed my rom to the most recent I Mate rom. Now my GPRS wont connect. can someone please help me?!?!?!
j2tha82 said:
i have the usa tmobile MDA and i just flashed my rom to the most recent I Mate rom. Now my GPRS wont connect. can someone please help me?!?!?!
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Yes. See the FAQ entry on Howard Forums - I wrote a piece on how to fix this. I am running the Imate ROM.
Genesis3 said:
j2tha82 said:
i have the usa tmobile MDA and i just flashed my rom to the most recent I Mate rom. Now my GPRS wont connect. can someone please help me?!?!?!
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Yes. See the FAQ entry on Howard Forums - I wrote a piece on how to fix this. I am running the Imate ROM.
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Can you point a link to the download that you mention in the FAQ.
I have the updated ROM but unable to get the GPRS working for T-Mobile USA. Many thanks in advance.
alright i got my GPRS back up and running.
i just added a new connection, called it T-MOBLE GPRS and set the access point to internet2.voicestream.com.
most people on this forum mention how this particular ROM seems to run faster, but i havent really noticed any performance increases yet
Possible help GPRS, etc
This might be of benefit to some with the GPRS trouble after update.
1. I did the Imate ROM update and had lots of trouble with GPRS MMS etc..
2. Didn't know how to fix so - I started over...
3. I installed the Qtek ROM and had the same connection issues.
4. Called T-Mobile - got a 3rd level tec and he suggested something I had not heard before. Now keep in mind that I had reset several times hard and soft. He had me go inot Comm and hit the phone icon - and turn it off and on. I am not sure exactly why - but it worked! His explanation was that since I was going back and forth between work and home that the phone (which is supposed to switch automatically didn't and) got locked somehow. I am pretty new to all of this but already did 3 ROM updates - so learning a lot.
5. Now all my connections work the way they are suppose to. Only ONE connection and that is wap.voicestream.com as it should be. My WiFi connection is blazingly fast! I am a happy camper - but I went around and around with this for about 2 days before getting a tec that gave me this advice.
Perhpas someone can tell me which is newer (better) the Qtek or the Imate ROM??
Thanks,
Shep
ok i have searched all over howard forums and here about the GPRS settings for T-Mobile USA.
in one particualr post it mentions you have to set the appropriate access point for your type of internet service. Personally, i have the T-Mobile total internet for $29.99.
I have applied both of these setting as my access point
internet2.voicestream.com and wap.voicestream.com
both of these settings allowed me to connect to the GPRS network, so i guess my question is which setting should i be using????
T-Mobile is shipping all these devices with wap.voicestream.com, and has opened the ports for people on the "real" internet service using it.
If you use "internet2", you will have problems with MMS, since you can't send MMS through that AP. There are workarounds for this but they are messy. My recommendation is that you use wap.

Poor GPRS performance

I've had my O2 Exec since Feb this year and its fab. Way better than the mobile messenger iPAQs that I had previously.
One thing that is bugging me though is the poor performance of the GPRS/UMTS connection I get - regardless of where I am at the time.
Say I open Opera (but not limited to) and request a website. It initially loads some of the page and then the GPRS connection drops and then says there's a problem with the modem message. If I then refresh the request for the page it connects and loads a bit more.... This happens with IE on the phone too.
I thought this 3G network thing was supposed to be way better than previous offerings... doesn't seem like it to me.
hi, I am havin simillar problem with GPRS speed.I'm using mda pro and the gprs is really slow. when trying to load a website it takes ages and happens not to load at all. once the desired website is loaded then the navigation within the website and speed is good. I think is a mda pro (universal issue) cos I have just upgraded from mda vario (htc wixard) and I must admit the wizard gprs performance is way batter. is there any way to speed up the uni and gprs problem.
cheers, cudo
could be dependent on signal and the quality of the service... i've never had such problems on mine. 3G works well especially when downloading emails :shock:
Yes I am another one with this issue and it has followed me with 4 units so I now know it is a Universal problem. I have just upgraded to a TyTN last week and used all my sim cards, Vodaphone, o2 and Tmobile and they all make the Universal look like a dialup.
but I wonder why is it working this way thtat onced a website is loaded and I navigate within this website then the speed is ok but when I try to load different address I have low speed again? will changing the rom help?
cherers,cudo
cudo said:
but I wonder why is it working this way thtat onced a website is loaded and I navigate within this website then the speed is ok but when I try to load different address I have low speed again? will changing the rom help?
cherers,cudo
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strange, mine is ok (using opera 8.6), maybe you could try a rom upgrade yes, i have 1.30.77.
hmm what speed are you talking about? umts speed or device responsiveness? this sounds like you mean the latter...?
cudo said:
but I wonder why is it working this way thtat onced a website is loaded and I navigate within this website then the speed is ok but when I try to load different address I have low speed again? will changing the rom help?
cherers,cudo
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Sounds like a problem with dns. No idea what you could do to improve that.
Can anyone recommend a better ROM as opposed to the O2 one?
The issue for me is constant disconnections, not the speed.
I also have the problem of poor UMTS speed on T-Mobile. In fact GPRS is quicker.
Would a more generic rom such as Qtek or Imate work better or is it the hardware that is rubbish ?
Thanks
Stu
StuBFrost said:
I also have the problem of poor UMTS speed on T-Mobile. In fact GPRS is quicker.
Would a more generic rom such as Qtek or Imate work better or is it the hardware that is rubbish ?
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i have the newest qtek rom on mine and i easily get 300 kbps on umts. much better than gprs, and is stable. it is definitely not the universal hardware in general if you have a problem. you could try this rom.
cmonex said:
StuBFrost said:
I also have the problem of poor UMTS speed on T-Mobile. In fact GPRS is quicker.
Would a more generic rom such as Qtek or Imate work better or is it the hardware that is rubbish ?
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i have the newest qtek rom on mine and i easily get 300 kbps on umts. much better than gprs, and is stable. it is definitely not the universal hardware in general if you have a problem. you could try this rom.
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Thanks for the reply.
The odd thing about it is that it was fine until about 2 weeks ago but I think I will give the another rom a try and hope the speed increases.
StuBFrost said:
cmonex said:
StuBFrost said:
I also have the problem of poor UMTS speed on T-Mobile. In fact GPRS is quicker.
Would a more generic rom such as Qtek or Imate work better or is it the hardware that is rubbish ?
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i have the newest qtek rom on mine and i easily get 300 kbps on umts. much better than gprs, and is stable. it is definitely not the universal hardware in general if you have a problem. you could try this rom.
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Thanks for the reply.
The odd thing about it is that it was fine until about 2 weeks ago but I think I will give the another rom a try and hope the speed increases.
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hmm you could check with your provider, maybe the problem is with them then..
cmonex said:
StuBFrost said:
cmonex said:
StuBFrost said:
I also have the problem of poor UMTS speed on T-Mobile. In fact GPRS is quicker.
Would a more generic rom such as Qtek or Imate work better or is it the hardware that is rubbish ?
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i have the newest qtek rom on mine and i easily get 300 kbps on umts. much better than gprs, and is stable. it is definitely not the universal hardware in general if you have a problem. you could try this rom.
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Thanks for the reply.
The odd thing about it is that it was fine until about 2 weeks ago but I think I will give the another rom a try and hope the speed increases.
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hmm you could check with your provider, maybe the problem is with them then..
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I have contacted T-Mobile and they said they would check to see if there is a problem at their end. I guess I will wait for their answer before I do any rom changes.
hi I got this problem with slow internet until today..I got now idea of weather it is a coincidence or not but it works. I bought pocket mechanic pro 2.13 and cleaned all the reg stuff, deleted broken shortcuts , fixed dead areas and so on and on..and after that the gprs and umts works like a charm...I'm happy now.
cheers, cudo

Would like to try out Cingular's HSDPA(3G) on my phone, is Cingular ROM required?

Hey everyone. I've been out of contract with T-Mobile for a while now, and I'm considering moving to Cingular very soon. I have a softbank X01HT that's unlocked with WM6 ROM, my question is, do I need to flash the phone with a Cingular ROM for the HSDPA to work? What i plan to do is pass by a cingular shop and ask if I could try out their service on my phone while I'm there by using their SIM card. Would the HSDPA (3G) settings be imported from the SIM or would they already have to be on the phone? My main reason for wanting HSDPA is mainly for skype use, I have family in Philippines who I would love to stay in contact with. Any help on this is greatly appreciated, thanks.
kman79 said:
Hey everyone. I've been out of contract with T-Mobile for a while now, and I'm considering moving to Cingular very soon. I have a softbank X01HT that's unlocked with WM6 ROM, my question is, do I need to flash the phone with a Cingular ROM for the HSDPA to work? What i plan to do is pass by a cingular shop and ask if I could try out their service on my phone while I'm there by using their SIM card. Would the HSDPA (3G) settings be imported from the SIM or would they already have to be on the phone? My main reason for wanting HSDPA is mainly for skype use, I have family in Philippines who I would love to stay in contact with. Any help on this is greatly appreciated, thanks.
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No - you do not need a Cingular ROM. You may need to activate HSDPA on the ROM (use a Tweaker like HTweakC - which Google or forum search will help you find.) Good luck and enjoy.
I appreciate the very quick reply...currently searching for the said programs above, thanks again.
EDIT* HTweakC was already on the Black ROM i had installed, well that was easy Thanks.
kman79 said:
I appreciate the very quick reply...currently searching for the said programs above, thanks again.
EDIT* HTweakC was already on the Black ROM i had installed, well that was easy Thanks.
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Heh - should have looked at your signature! Good luck.

gprs and edge - software or hardware?

hi folks, not certain if this should be in networking or development, (so have posted in both)
my question is simple and could do with some advice. is the edge/gprs frequency on the radio a software or hardware setting?
my htc panda does just about everything i need but according to my network (o2 uk) the phone is gprs only. my understanding is that edge runs on the same freqency so i wanted to see if i could change the device to run on edge
is this possible?
any help/advice would be appreciated
cheers
Chris
Its hardware: Look at the phones manual to see if you have it, if you do, you can recieve it where ever theres signal. If you dont, get a TyTN II!
even if you have edge, you probably wont browse on it in the uk. Networks claim thy have edge, but i dont know anyone on ay network [this is personally] who has connected to edge ever. So, dont fret, if you have edge, and arent connecting to it, theres not much you can do.
And dont get a tytn ii, theyre riddled with problems [as its forum shows]
Rory
I regularly use EDGE both on O2 and Orange in the Uk! Also havent had any problems with the TyTN II's functionality!
Each to their own I suppose!
cheers folks,
basically i am on o2 and stuck on gprs. i love my panda and can bypas most of the speed issues using opera mini (and wifi at home)
was just hoping is all

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