Triband or quadband? 802.11b or 802.11b/g? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Firstly, I would like to say that my mobile provider is T-mobile (The Netherlands). I have the T-mobile MDA Vario.
I have discovered 2 previous threads concerning contradictions in the hardware of the Wizard/Qtek 9100/MDA Vario.
I know that the original manufactor is HTC Innovation (Taiwan). (Under my battery its labeled as the "WIZA200").
The Qtek site for Europe says it supports quadband, 802.11b/g & EDGE.
http://www.qtek.nu/europe/products/9100/specifications.aspx
However, the Dutch T-mobile site says it supports triband, 802.11b & only support for GPRS.
Triband: GSM 900/1800/1900
WLAN High speed data (802.11b up to 11Mbps)
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Now I am assuming that the Qtek 9100 & MDA Vario devices are hardware wise exactly similar (Seems expensive for HTC to produce slightly different Wizards.). Therefore I came to the conclusion that the it must be locked down through software.
Has anyone been able to unlock some of these features? (E.g. triband -> quadband)
I tested to see if 802.11g would function on my MDA Vario (Through Linksys router working in G-mode only). It didn't work. So I am assuming there are no mistakes on these websites. Also it would be in T-mobiles intrest to lock down these features as the MDA Pro has them, but is a lot more expensive.
If anyone could shed some light on this problem, it would be intresting.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&highlight=

Thank you, didn't know there was a new version out. I saw something about version 1.0, but some people were having problems with this, so thought it wasn't a working fix. Quick question regarding the WLAN G 2.0 patch, does it still also allow to be connected to 802.11b only networks?
Anybody still now anything regarding about going from triband to quadband?
Thanks in advance.

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XDA2i and "3"

Hi,
Can anyone comment on the XDA family of handests and compatability with the "3" network? Im considering a 2i, especially with the support thats obvious from this forum.
All help appreciated.
To my knowledge, 2i's are not 3G compatible and I'm unfamiliar with whether you can use a non-3G phone on the 3 network.
I don't know if you can have a sim card that's on 3 but not 3G enabled...even if you can then I'd probably wait until the Universal (XDA Exec) comes out in a "few" months time as that definitely IS 3G enabled.
Cheers
Ant
ok, great. thanks, thought it might be 3G related, but not a mobiel technology techie.
The HTC Universal will be launched (in theory) in August, and this is a 3g PocketPC device running Windows Mobile 2005.
I know it will be launched by O2, Orange, T-Mobile, and Vodafone (as soon as Qtek release it under their brand) but I am unsure about "3" themselves. Probably not as they don't allow open internet access yet, so all you would be able to view is their own content, which would be kinda crappy on such a powerful device.
To be honest you are better off getting O2 to pricematch to 3 - that's what I did.
The 3 network is terrible when O2 are busy - it piggybacks O2 so if there is a lot of traffic 3 get the lower priority.
ALSO, all your internet capabilities and things that make the XDAIIs great will be wasted on 3 as they do not allow actual internet access - despite what they may say.

QTEK Support - new ROM and WLAN g standard

Hi,
iam using a QTEK 9100 device (german version). At every official QTEK Website they made a statement, that the device supports the fast WLAN G standard.
I tried it at once as soon as i got my device. Unfortunately it can only connect to b Standard. What a pitty. Why do they state wrong informations at QTEK websites?
Does anyone made the same experiences?
Do you know, where i can get a ROM Update from QTEK?
At the german webpage http://www.myqtek.com/germany/home.aspx i dont get support at all: As soon as i want to register there and type the imei number in, i get: "This device is not a supported one from Brightpoint".
Who may i contact in case of any problems or questions to the product?
Hello,
the last 4 days i have tried the german roms from xda, mda, qtek and vpa, all four versions make only 802.11b
The english roms here on ftp from qtek and imate make 802.11g,
i try this and it works.
regards
greddy said:
Hello,
the last 4 days i have tried the german roms from xda, mda, qtek and vpa, all four versions make only 802.11b
The english roms here on ftp from qtek and imate make 802.11g,
i try this and it works.
regards
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Don't forget to mention that it works only with the speed of 802.11b en not on 802.11g....!
The only plus is you can connect to 802.11g router but it is still 11 Mps and NOT 54 Mps like 802.11g....!
I dont understand. Does it now the g standard inclusive the 54 MB/s speed or does it only connect to g-only routers and drives a lower speed
you do not notice differentiated, simply only a hype with this 802.11g feature, nobody needs this.
regards
I agree, it is mostly hype, as even if your internet connection was faster than 11Mbs PIE wouldn't be able to render pages fast enough to keep up. On transfering files, I don't believe that the memory setup of the 9100 would be able to write files 'much' faster either.
The only time when it is important is for the rare situations when someone might have a wireless router setup for G connections only
A lot of wlan routers which i have contact with, are configured in g only mode. What a pity. All routers have to be reconfigured...
or flash your device with english rom :lol: :lol: :lol:
marsonist said:
I agree, it is mostly hype, as even if your internet connection was faster than 11Mbs PIE wouldn't be able to render pages fast enough to keep up. On transfering files, I don't believe that the memory setup of the 9100 would be able to write files 'much' faster either.
The only time when it is important is for the rare situations when someone might have a wireless router setup for G connections only
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:WHS: I have a 100mb to my PC here ( LAN ) and with my cabling I could have a Gb - but... would it make make diffrence if I did ? No - unless your shiffting GB files I see no need... and the same goes for B & G.... ( and how many GB files will you process on your Wizard.
Terran
PS - At least in the UK I have 2Mb Broad band how ever even if I went up to 8Mb the up stream will still always be 256k... not sure about ADSL2 & 2+ TBH
Hello
Thank you for all these informations but :
I have my qtek with Windows in French, if i use the ROM ENG to be able to connect on g router with my QTEK, my os will stay in french or will become in english?
Let me know
Regards
If you use an english ROM, the OS will be in english too
Hi,
In order to establish 802.11G connection you need to select it in your router/PC's settings (G-mode) and choose maximum performance in your Wizard. The speed is indeed boosts when you try to access network shares
Only wondering why I can read on my english Qtek box WLAN 802.11 b? The white boxlabel says "Qtek 9100 PDA phone-WWE".
Einstein said:
Only wondering why I can read on my english Qtek box WLAN 802.11 b? The white boxlabel says "Qtek 9100 PDA phone-WWE".
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I have the same typo on my qtek9100 box ;-) But once connected in 802.11g I was really happy ;-)))
802.11g does make sense!
I agree that on the Wizard the 802.11g may not have visible effects if you're the only user on your AP/Router.
However, having 54Mbps (really 25Mbps) instead of 11Mbps (really 6Mbps) does make a difference if you start having multiple devices with a need for bandwidth. Typical use is for VoIP: you can support more clients on a single AP.
Again, not very useful for a single casual user, but in the enterprise market, it DOES make sense...
That being said, it's all screwed up if you have .11b devices attached as well cause you'll end up with the protection bit set and that has a serious impact on the bandwidth...
Typically, if you use Skype on your Wizard, amd you stream DVD over your WLAN at home as I do, you're plenty happy that all your devices support .11g.
I'd love a wizard with 802.11b+802.11a and CCX support...
Cheers,
Hal.
Nevertheless: Has anybody an answer of the other original question:
Where do i get a new ROM from QTEK. Has anybody ever done a ROM Update with an official QTEK ROM with any device?
QTEK ROM's
Yes, I would also like to know this. I have seen on the FTP that there is a QTEK ROM. Where did it come from? I have a Spanish ROM installed in my QTEK and wanted a copy of the ROM so I can go back to it after I experiment with my Universal but I don't know where to get it? Does anyone know where to get the QTEK ROMs be it English, SPanis, German?
Jorge
+1 vote of interest!
Add me as well
Hi there,
I tried to get any feedback from Myqtek as well for my German Qtek 9100, but I receive the same error message, saying: Wrong IMEI Number, Brightpoint will not support this product, please contact you dealer for support. :?
This is very disappointing from Qtek, and maybeI will sent this one back and change either to T-Mobiles Version or to Imate.
It is a shame :evil: that there is not even a support section within Qtek, but funny enough under qtek.gr (the Greece Website), there you find firmware updates etc. :?
*'?12ยง$!
Greetings
Oliver
Heijdemann said:
Don't forget to mention that it works only with the speed of 802.11b en not on 802.11g....!
The only plus is you can connect to 802.11g router but it is still 11 Mps and NOT 54 Mps like 802.11g....!
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My Qtek Wizard establishes connections up to the full 54 MBit/s (usually @18 Mbit/s, depending on radio quality and power saving settings).
Regarding the German Qtek support, I'm kind of appalled, too!
Any IMEI is being denied while trying to send a support inquiry.
On the first phone number given on their website (+49 (0) 28 22 / 98 10 - 200) no one answers.
On the second phone number (+49 (0) 28 22 / 98 10 - 100) a fax answers.
They don't even habe a real support section on their website, except for a simple mail form, that won't accept our IMEIs, when sending.
What kind of dilettantes are these guys, distributing high-tech products without any support!?

Qtek S200 without Wifi-G support?

I read the official specs of the Qtek S200, and they suggest it supports 802.11b/g. BUT, ALL the Qtek s200's available here in the czech republic, list their specs as 802.11b ONLY.
Is this possible? Is it a hardware issue, or is there perhaps a way to activate G through a tweak somewhere?
G Wifi Activation.
In attached file, you can find a tweak for making available G Wifi in 9100.
I have a S200 with G Wifi already activated, so I can't tell if it works.
Use at your own risk, but 9100 users say it's perfect.
You have to copy .cab file to your S200 memory, and click on it for install.
Thanks Mondelman
Anyone already tried this out on a Qtek S200?
still wondering
I'm still puzzled whether this is a hardware issue, or a software one? I can't test it on a device. It maybe will make a difference in the use of skype or streaming media, if its limited to B standard.
I cannot understand how could qtek make a g-less model for czech republic.
I have not much experience on the subject (newbie really) but I think I have the same issue (S200 with Dutch OS). Bought the phone in NL and it came with the Dutch OS I took a better look at the box once I got home to see the specs ... 802.11b if you loko on line specs they do mention "g"
I hope that a patch will be available as for the 9100.
btw this was my first posting so Hello to all (great stuff!!)
Makis, have you tried the above patch? Does it work?
I have seen my Prophet connecting at 24mb. Since 802.11b is maximum 11mb, I assume that G is working on the Prophet out of the box. That being said, my laptop connects at 54mb. I'm not complaining because the wifi on my Prophet has done everything that I have asked it to do including VOIP
Matterhorn said:
I have seen my Prophet connecting at 24mb. Since 802.11b is maximum 11mb, I assume that G is working on the Prophet out of the box. That being said, my laptop connects at 54mb. I'm not complaining because the wifi on my Prophet has done everything that I have asked it to do including VOIP
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Yep I've had a similar experience. Got my s200 and on the box it only mentions 802.11b in it's specs. However, I have locked my router so it only transmits 802.11g and my s200 can still access the network ... so the s200 MUST be capable of using 802.11g. I have also noticed an increase in speed accross the network to my s200 allowing me to stream video without buffering that I could before (when I have my router locked on 802.11b). While it's not blistering fast, it is still quicker, so as Matterhorn says it's probably got a max of 24mb rather than 54mb, but hey that's still miles better than 11mb.
I did not try the patch my self I know someone who have though. I ll post again about this tomorrow.
:?
krale as qdabean mentioned above I just tried the same thing -router only on g
Result: still able to access the net from the my s200!! So who needs a patch :lol:
qdabean, it is strange though cause I got a reply recently from qtek specifying that router should transmit on bouth b&g in order to get good results... Then again it was the saem person that told me changing the language on the s200 is not possible and the only solution was to return it to the dealer and ask for another version
but who cares "g" works case closed.
Thanks guys

WiFi just hid inside german MDA Compact III???

I just read some reports about the german MDA-Compact III, an Artemis version that comes w/out WiFi. I stumbled across some report guy, who said, that this wifi option is just unenabled and can be reactivated... does anyone know about these rumors and can confirm or deny them?
thx
qube
I think the community agreed on NOT POSSIBLE because UK and German T-Mobile MDA Compact III miss the propper Hardware, so it is not just a software disabled thing... For more information use the search, there a plenty of topics concerning this problem.
greets
t-mob ge,sk,pl,cz removed WiFi chip from artemis unfortunately. a heard about few devices with the chip but i think it was only fortunate event at begining.
BTW next time use search before creating a thread.

gprs and edge - software or hardware?

hi folks, not certain if this should be in networking or development, (so have posted in both)
my question is simple and could do with some advice. is the edge/gprs frequency on the radio a software or hardware setting?
my htc panda does just about everything i need but according to my network (o2 uk) the phone is gprs only. my understanding is that edge runs on the same freqency so i wanted to see if i could change the device to run on edge
is this possible?
any help/advice would be appreciated
cheers
Chris
Its hardware: Look at the phones manual to see if you have it, if you do, you can recieve it where ever theres signal. If you dont, get a TyTN II!
even if you have edge, you probably wont browse on it in the uk. Networks claim thy have edge, but i dont know anyone on ay network [this is personally] who has connected to edge ever. So, dont fret, if you have edge, and arent connecting to it, theres not much you can do.
And dont get a tytn ii, theyre riddled with problems [as its forum shows]
Rory
I regularly use EDGE both on O2 and Orange in the Uk! Also havent had any problems with the TyTN II's functionality!
Each to their own I suppose!
cheers folks,
basically i am on o2 and stuck on gprs. i love my panda and can bypas most of the speed issues using opera mini (and wifi at home)
was just hoping is all

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