Manufacturing / design defect (clear plastic) - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage (when you click the machine into the keyboard, especially in the case, it is almost unavoidable the clear plastic part will be scratched by the machine).
I have sent HTC a message that this is not acceptable for a € 1000 machine, and customer service will come back to me.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?

Doodle said:
I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage (when you click the machine into the keaybord, especially in the case, it is almost unavoidable the clear plastic part will be scratched by the machine).
I have sent HTC a message that this is not acceptable for a € 1000 machine, and customer service will come back to me.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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Yep - mine is the same. Disappointed that the keyboard doesn't really fit comfortably in the case on the front of the device either (slips to one side or the other..).

the case is indeed not good, but this can be expected, you will need to buy a good case from a third party vendor. Piel Frama will have first samples in about 2 weeks, and I will guarantee you up front they will fit perfectly...

Try using a screen protector on that part ,thats what i'm planning of doing. i will try it and let you guys know how it goes.

I agree with that potential solution, but then HTC will at least need to replace the keyboard with a unscratched one

Doodle said:
I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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Slight scratches, I noticed it happening and altered how I handled the device. Also the PDair case I'm using seems to have less of a problem with it. I don't use the keyboard as a cover, of course, because it is in a case (though as in the comment after yours, the supplied case is VERY annoying in the way that the keyboard slips from one side to the other).
What can they do, though? It's partly due to the way people slide the Athena "around" to drop into the keyboard, rather than lifting it. I personally find the whole "viewing window" business utterly redundant - I can't see it in the case, it wastes backlight (whole display illuminated).

Doodle said:
the case is indeed not good, but this can be expected, you will need to buy a good case from a third party vendor. Piel Frama will have first samples in about 2 weeks, and I will guarantee you up front they will fit perfectly...
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Why, are they using a magentic attachment for the keyboard? Because the PDair case sucks after a couple of weeks of light use; the plastic distorts and presses several keys at once.
I want a case with a phrase custom-embossed on it

You could always fit a body shield - protects that part perfectly.

I've had the same problem
I've attached a picture of my keyboard to show the problem. In my case, it appears the scratching is coming from the relatively sharp chrome/metal "frame" around the screen. It's slighly proud (above) of the black plastic surface and when the keyboard is moved over the device it scrapes/gouges the clear plastic. My current plan is to just wait until it's gouged out all the plastic and then polish the clear plastic smooth again. But is sure would be nice to have a more appropriate fix from HTC for such and expensive device.

RichardKAthena said:
..... I personally find the whole "viewing window" business utterly redundant - I can't see it in the case, it wastes backlight (whole display illuminated).
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Yep - I have never taken mine out of the case so to be fair, I can live with the scratches on the clear plastic.
I did however cut off the 'Pen Loops' that are supposed to hold it shut - they got annoying after a couple of days.

apphoen said:
Yep - I have never taken mine out of the case so to be fair, I can live with the scratches on the clear plastic.
I did however cut off the 'Pen Loops' that are supposed to hold it shut - they got annoying after a couple of days.
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Sorry, what bit did you cut off?

jmdrizen said:
Sorry, what bit did you cut off?
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The loops on the case which you are supposed to put the supplied pen through to hold it shut.
Crappy design, they had to go.

apphoen said:
The loops on the case which you are supposed to put the supplied pen through to hold it shut.
Crappy design, they had to go.
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Thank God the DOPOD one doesn't have this pen loop, otherwise i will be cutting it off too.

wu5262 said:
Thank God the DOPOD one doesn't have this pen loop, otherwise i will be cutting it off too.
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Me too, glad i got the dopod now!

I've had my unit 10 days and it looks a lot older, I've used novus 1 and 2 to succesfully clean my plastic to look new again.

i tried the screen protector and it looks great. i will post some pics 2maro.

Does anyone have it on the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod?
Or is it just on the black HTC branded ones?
Not had this problem on my T-Mob Ameo and I've had that for over 2 months now...

rhedgehog said:
Does anyone have it on the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod?
Or is it just on the black HTC branded ones?
Not had this problem on my T-Mob Ameo and I've had that for over 2 months now...
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I've had two Ameo's and both are fine, I think it's what was mentioned before, if you lift and clip it's fine, but if you drag it over and click....

Related

Case Round-Up

I decided to round up all of the cases for the HTC Universal for reference:
Piel Frama (1 case... also available on Expansys as the "Chairmans Case")
- http://www.pielframa.com/imate_jasjar.htm
PDair (2 cases, both with belt clips)
- http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7749.htm
- http://www.pdair.com/scripts/main/viewitem.php?itemid=1998&pdaid=190
XaX (2 cases)
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125516
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125869
- Nutshell
http://www.tuff-as-nuts.com/209-210.html#
I have ordered the XaX cases with the intention of sending one back... I will post a full analysis with lots of pics.... it's sad that there are not a lot of pics around of these two !
BTW, here's a nice review of the Proporta case...
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/execbookcase.htm
Thanks for the summary - very useful indeed. I'm looking for something like the Piel Frama or Xax (2) case but the keyboard must NOT be covered - which I believe it is with both of these, although it is hard to tell from the photos.
I have found another case by Krusell which looks quite good:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?s=2&product=2095
Sold here:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127398&asource=119353
Anyone got one?
Mods:
Should this be in accessories ?
Sorry...
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Wow... the Krusell one looks pretty good !
Hole for ear... belt clip... window for screen... Hmmmmm.... !
The only thing its missing is elastic stretchy sides to block the SD card from falling out while still being able to open the case.
case
i like the krussel or the xax #1.
am interested in feedback on the xax, as I really just want something simple to make the carrying of it easier. if I need it, i just want to take it out of the case entirely, then when finished put it back. most cases are designed to keep it inside the case. i think the clam design prevents the need for a protective permanent case, so something to make it easier to carry it would be handy.
But yes, the krussel looks good if I felt it needed protection...
So any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good, and if any body does by the krussel, let us know.
Re: case
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...any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good...
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I've had the XAX 1 for about a week now and it's just what I was looking for. Like you, Simon, I was also interested in just something to carry the Universal as I prefer to take it out completely to use it. The XAX 1 certainly does the job.
The magnetic closures make it very easy to take it out of the case and put it away. The fit is not too tight to make it difficult to remove and replace but tight enough to feel secure. It's not going anywhere. And it may seem a small thing, but I also like that the magnets make the removal and replacement of the Universal into a silent operation without zipping or velcro or snaps to announce what you're doing. It's not a big deal, but it was a nice little bonus.
The concern I had with this case was the belt clip since it is an actual clip and not anything that locks in place. My previous "belt" cases with other PDAs had the locking type clips. This one just hooks on to the belt, but it feels very secure. There seems to be no question of it slipping off of a belt and I've even used it just hooked on to jeans (without them falling down, despite the Universal's weight!) when not wearing a belt. I can see where there is more of a chance that it could come unhooked when just on jeans like that, but I haven't had that happen yet.
One advantage to the locking clips was the ability to allow the case to swivel which this one does not have. After using it though, I like the horizontal orientation and now prefer that it doesn't swivel actually. I don't have to take the case off or swivel it around every time I sit down.
I'm planning to eventually get the PDAir (most likely) for times when I want the Universal protected even while in use, but I would only use that in certain environments where I was worried that it might get damaged if taken out completely. Most of the time I plan to use the Xax.
I am not sure I get how the Xax 1 works.
Is it like a holtster, where you just slide the JasJar in?
What is the magnetic closure for, is that a tab that closes over the top opening?
How are the sides protected?
Care to post some pictures?
I'm at work, so I can't post any pictures right now (they probably wouldn't be all that happy that I was positng in the first place, but hey, it's lunch!)
It is like a holster and the JJ just slides in. As you suspected there is a leather tab that goes over the top to help protect and hold it in (though the fit is tight enough that I don't think holding the JJ in is really all that necessary.) It doesn't go completely across the top, but leaves room on one end so that you can use the headphone jack while it's in the case (as long as you put the JJ in it with the camera facing out.) Beyond that, the top is protected. There is leather on both sides, so they are protected as well. On the bottom, there's a large cut out in the middle that allows you to push up on the JJ to take it out more easily as well as two other small cut outs for the speakers.
I'll try to see if I can get some pics together later tonight.
Hi everyone,
I got the XaX #2 case today (the magnetic snap one, NOT the belt clip) and well... it's not that great.
First of all, the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside... the leather strip that holds down the keyboard gets in the way of the screen. I've tried a bunch of different positions, and no dice.
Also, the camera hole is uncovered, but the earpiece is not so you can't use the phone when the case is closed.
The magnetic snap is nice and strong though, and the leather is of good quality.
However, in terms of functionality, it's not that great. I'll post pics later.
ikaris said:
...the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside...
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So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.
Same here. I am interested in the Piel Frama case or the Krusell. Both look pretty nice and seem to have the proper cut outs for all buttons and such. Just wondering which one seems to fit the device better.
I am currently using the case that came with the iPaq 5500 series. This fits the XDA Exec perfectly and is ideal if you want to use the case for storing the Exec and taking it out of the case for use.
Simon
kelford said:
So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.
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I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.
simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Thanks for giving an update! That's good news that the Piel Frama doesn't have the closing issues that was found with the XaX 2 case. I know how well PF cases are made, so I may have to get one of these (or at least put it on a gift wish list!) since I find I like to use different cases depending on circumstances.
How does it feel in terms of added bulk? It seems designed to be on the device most if not all of the time, so I wondered how it really feels when used every day?
Take a look at this one: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7866.htm
seems reasonalbly priced
One thing though..........
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first pic you see is the belt clip side
click the next pic and where you would expect to see the closing flap thingy, you see a plain flat side!?!?
Am I missing something?
Codiac said:
Am I missing something?
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I don't understand that either. Where did the flap go?
I'm supposed to be getting pictures together (having regular PC issues at home) so I can show the XaX 1 in use, but the general construction looks similar to the one in the link, but the XaX has a bigger flap. And it doesn't hide anywhere either!
page3 said:
Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.
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Yes, it is not covered by any plastic.
The case does make it feel more 'bulky'. In the daily usage you could leave the it in case without the need of taking it out. I can answer the phone by not having to open the case. Of course you do need to open it to be able to make a phone call.

Scratches on Athena body

Hello,
i want to change my Ameo in a new one because there are a lot of scratches on the front body. The reason is that the keyboard slipping on the surface of the body.
If any one have the same problem please Post it here because i want to show T- Mobile that this is a failure of construction.
Mine is exactly the same, I tried to take a picture, but it wasnt comming out very well, I was quite annoyed because I tried to keep it good. Does anybody know if this happens with the black ones or is it just silver. mine isnt insured and T-Mobile wouldnt entertain me for insurance because it was 3 months old. though I have heard you can insure it online somewhere.
i've got the same kind of scratches at exactly the same positions.
but i don't think t-mobile will do anything about this
i'ts a normal sign of use
I have some scratches as well, fairly similar to yours. I'll have some pics made if I can get a hold of a good enough camera.
I have a scratch at the bottom of the screen surround. The keyboard clear top has a tiny bump on it (from where it was moulded i think) and this has scratched the case! If it had a decent leather case then it wouldnt happen!
Same here, Same scratches, same area..
Guess we need to find a decent case to carry our precious around in...
Something that has some padding between the 2 parts.
Mine doesn't have this problem. Not a single scratch at all. It still look brand new. I don't use the keyboard or the leather case though. I just carry mine "naked" with my DIY belt pouch. I just have the standard free plastic screen protector over the screen area only and not the body.
This is ironic. The keyboard is supposed to protect but does the opposite.
eaglesteve said:
This is ironic. The keyboard is supposed to protect but does the opposite.
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It definetely does protect (the screen from cracks).
And imho some scratches on the body of the ameo are much better than a cracked screen
You now, we are speaking about a 800€ all in one device? Such a failure must not happen. If you had a 800€ Notebook with the same problem you would complaine about.
This is what my U1000 looks like close to the VGA camera on the front.
There are 2 more areas where I have some damage but I can't capture it properly on camera.
This is why we should take out insurance on our most expensive phones, as i hate scratches on my phones and if you complain about it with your provider/supplier and they are not willing to replace it when its a manufacture defect then i would personally claim on my insurance QUOTE (MY PHONE IS LOST/STOLEN TO GET BACK A REPLACEMENT) Its too expensive a device for it to scratch so easily.
I have the black HTC Advantage and I have the scratches too.
I have the black Athena and barely any scratches on mine. I use the stock case. The only time I got it scratched is when I first got it because I tried to use it without the case. Mistake on my part.
If you search the forum, you can also buy a $25 solution that protects your entire Athena. It's a plastic transparent covering that protects the entire body of the device. I think I may have posted it in the past to the accessories area. Well worth the tiny investment to protect the looks of your device.
Yep, I have the Black HTC Advantage X7500 and I have no scratches on it. I also do carry naked in my pocket especially around the office to meetings. However, I do feel I need something to protect it without gaining the bulk. I am still looking for a belt clip to carry it.
Just found this product.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Read good review on PocketPCThoughts for a different product.
Has anyone tried it? It states as full body shield which includes guards for keyboard as well.
Looks Intresting.. But we all know that these type of solution are never as easy to install (Esp. as there are 8 pieces for the Athena)
as they are in the Promo vidz. The vidz also mention that the film has Adhesive on it. How would this affect the deve by:
1. Discoloring over time
2. Being able to easily remove the film, if need or if damaged.
3. Being removed from the screen, without pulling the touchscreen's
touch sensor film off.
Has anybody tried this stuff yet? I think I'll wait for more feedback before I buy.
http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/invisible_shield_protection.html
From some of comments, it seems easy to remove from a pda.
I don't know if that comment was from someone who works for ShieldZone though.
Staroip said:
Just found this product.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Read good review on PocketPCThoughts for a different product.
Has anyone tried it? It states as full body shield which includes guards for keyboard as well.
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I just ordered one. I'm having it shipped via 3 day UPS. I'll post my thoughts once I try it out. For the cost it's worth a try. They also have a lifetime replacement policy so if they get screwed up you get a free one. We'll see how it goes.
ltxda said:
I just ordered one. I'm having it shipped via 3 day UPS. I'll post my thoughts once I try it out. For the cost it's worth a try. They also have a lifetime replacement policy so if they get screwed up you get a free one. We'll see how it goes.
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I will wait for your feedback before I try one. It seems to be right thing to have with this device but I am not sure yet.
lpsi2000 said:
I will wait for your feedback before I try one. It seems to be right thing to have with this device but I am not sure yet.
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I have it on for over 4 months. Search this very forum for an extensive discussion on it. Easy to install with the water spray bottle provided. The screen protector is a bit sticky so I took it off and used a regular one.
Don't ask any more questions. Just search for the original thread here
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298808

Krusel case for the kaiser!

Krusell finaly announced a case for the TytnII I think these are the best casses in the market I have used on with the K jam,then the Jasjam and I will order this one when it becomes available later this month.
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=2774
Wow, thanks. I've been waiting for Krusell to come out with a case for the TyTN II. I have sent an email to my local vendors right away.
Thanks,
Phil
Man that case does look nice, i hope it isn't to bulky
ekw said:
Man that case does look nice, i hope it isn't to bulky
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That's my only worry. I agree they do look like very good cases, but I'd really like a case that protects without making the phone 50% thicker!
Krusell cases are excellent value for money - I've used them for years
Squeaker said:
That's my only worry. I agree they do look like very good cases, but I'd really like a case that protects without making the phone 50% thicker!
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I agree. My last phone was the Palm Treo 650 and after removing the phone after having it in my Krussel case for awhile, I was surprised how small my phone felt 'nude'.
Cheers,
Phil
Personally the only thing I miss from my old Jasjam is the Krusell leather case I find it hard to use with the supplied case and always fear dropping it
Squeaker said:
That's my only worry. I agree they do look like very good cases, but I'd really like a case that protects without making the phone 50% thicker!
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I have tired to find cool slim cases for my Wizard and Hermes with NO luck. Some of the better leather cases that are thin do not work well as the phone can slide out (when moving fast or coming down stairs) and the uber cool two piece plastic case (this case was cool as you can slide open keyboard without having to open anything - face is always visible too) I found a few months ago was cool until the plastic would no longer keep the phone in the case and would fall right out. Between the Wizard and Hermes, I have owned about 15 cases including the Aluminum cases. All are a bust! I just ordered the Krusell tonight (will ship Next Day Air tomorrow) and will settle for a thicker case in which my phone will NEVER get damaged. I will provide feedback on Wednesday when it arrives..
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Images of Krusell Case and my Tilt!
I am a case freak and have purchased every case under the sun (pouches, Aluminum, two piece snap-on case and many many more) for my Wizard and Hermes in the past. It really surprises me that NO ONE can make a good case that allows the PDA/Phone to be FUNCTIONAL while providing good protection. Today my Krusell arrived. Before purchasing I was mixed on the main flap that covers the entire phone when closed. I like to be able to glance at my phone to see incoming calls, emails and text messages.
Anyway, the case is well made and the phone fits firmly into the case (which means phone will not fall out). I do not like the fact that the clip is placed "high" on the rear of the case. When sitting one must becareful not to break the clip. Running with the phone attached could be an issue as well with the clip placement high. Unforunately you have to unsnap the 2nd smaller flap to slide the phone open for keyboard use. I have dealt with this in the past and will probably be ok with it. Bottom line is the case protects the phone very very well. In the past I have found good functional cases that did not protector or hold the phone well. Images are below. Sorry for the poor lighting as I took these at work. I have a photo light at home and will take better images tonight.
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Thanks for the pics! I was hoping someone would get this case and post some pics. You can't always rely on the sellers pics.
I am a real big fan of the Krusell cases. I think you will be hard pressed to find better made product. Having said that, I just can't warm up to this case. If it was more like the one for the 8525 I would buy it in a second. It fit my "needs" on the 8525 perfect for how I use the phone. Plus I didn't have to lift a single flap to operate it. This one for the Kaiser/Tilt does, and you have to flip open two flaps to use the keyboard.
I guess I will pass on this one.
Maybe I need to get the thread, needle and some fine Corinthian leather out and make my own.
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Thanks for the pics! I was hoping someone would get this case and post some pics. You can't always rely on the sellers pics.
I am a real big fan of the Krusell cases. I think you will be hard pressed to find better made product. Having said that, I just can't warm up to this case. If it was more like the one for the 8525 I would buy it in a second. It fit my "needs" on the 8525 perfect for how I use the phone. Plus I didn't have to lift a single flap to operate it. This one for the Kaiser/Tilt does, and you have to flip open two flaps to use the keyboard.
I guess I will pass on this one.
Maybe I need to get the thread, needle and some fine Corinthian leather out and make my own.
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I agree with you on the functionality (to many flaps).. But for the meantime I will use for protection therefore my search "will" continue.. Your IDEA of making your own case is good. So hard to find a good case for any Phone these days.
I do like this one: https://www.noreve.com/product_info.php?products_id=2069
L8
Will give it a shot next week when it ships.....
Has anyone purchased and received the Noreve Kaiser case yet?
Would be interested in seeing how it works. I'm still using my Krusell horizontal pouch that I used with the 8525 and it makes the device easily accessible rather than having to open many things to access the device like the book cases.
species8472_rules said:
I agree with you on the functionality (to many flaps).. But for the meantime I will use for protection therefore my search "will" continue.. Your IDEA of making your own case is good. So hard to find a good case for any Phone these days.
I do like this one: https://www.noreve.com/product_info.php?products_id=2069
L8
Will give it a shot next week when it ships.....
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Ya but that's like a $80US case!!! Where can I get it cheaper?
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That case just completely blocked the rear camera altogether ???
UnicornKaz said:
That case just completely blocked the rear camera altogether ???
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Yes, I FORGOT to mention that. Have no idea why?
h0mersimps0n said:
Ya but that's like a $80US case!!! Where can I get it cheaper?
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I have no idea where to get cheaper.. I will spend some time in the next few days attempting to find where (if any).
UnicornKaz said:
That case just completely blocked the rear camera altogether ???
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nah... scroll further down the page and you will see that the camera is not covered
hangyong said:
nah... scroll further down the page and you will see that the camera is not covered
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I guess you can expose the camera.. I never noticed.. I did not notice that you can pull the rear of the case down to expose the camera and speaker (the magnet is pretty strong).
h0mersimps0n said:
Ya but that's like a $80US case!!! Where can I get it cheaper?
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Try the US site for Noreve. It's "only" $45:
http://www.noreveusa.com/product/ATT_Tilt_-_HTC_P4550_-_HTC_Tytn_2_Tradition_leather_case.html

Clear Coat HTC Touch Pro Fully Body Protection?

http://www.clear-coat.com/product.php?productid=475&cat=0&page=1
im a bit skeptic about this product, have anyone tried previous products by clear coat?
Found a review of it here : http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/23/clear-coat-full-body-scratch-protection-for-iphone.html
WDawn said:
Found a review of it here : http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/23/clear-coat-full-body-scratch-protection-for-iphone.html
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to be honest, when i cant find any other reviews... then suddenly theres a really positive review, that makes me really skeptical...
and yes, it is this EXACT same review makes me skeptical about this product lol
Sounds like
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=88113-74130-PFW486&lpage=none
That's the stuff I used in my bathroom to frost my windows... I got it wet and slid it on.. used a squeegee and flattened it all out and 3 years later is is still sticking there.
The difference is that this is
1.) Clear
2.) Cut into the proper shape (you could do this yourself with some measuring but it saves hassle)
3.) the squeegee is probably smaller.
My bathroom windows are in a VERY humid environment... I have never had ANY peeling.
However I don't keep my bathroom windows in my pocket... so I don't know if the corners will peel up.
My main point is that for $24 of this "film" to cover a TINY phone... you can buy the same thing for $18 that would cover 10 phones... if the product works fantastic... the profit margin for them is HUGE. If it doesn't work... it's the biggest rip off ever.
See if Gila makes a clear one... get $18 worth and tinker away.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425314
So it's good or not ? Anyone use one of these ?
asolano895 said:
So it's good or not ? Anyone use one of these ?
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I've seen them used on iPhones, hard to put on but once it's on, it stays.
Black93300ZX said:
I've seen them used on iPhones, hard to put on but once it's on, it stays.
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Since you've had the Fuze already... Is the shape exactly the same as the TP? It looks like sprints version is a little more round along the corners. I'd Like to go ahead and purchase one of these for the Fuze but don't want to have to send it back.
venelar said:
Since you've had the Fuze already... Is the shape exactly the same as the TP? It looks like sprints version is a little more round along the corners. I'd Like to go ahead and purchase one of these for the Fuze but don't want to have to send it back.
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The only difference I noticed when seeing the 2 up next to each other was the shape of the speaker hole on the back, that might be enough to throw the protection off. Ask Raspster about it more, he had both the European and the Fuze at the same time, so he could tell you better than I could.
I got one, just to try it out.
Exactly as described above. Its a bit fiddly getting on but once on, it sticks very well.
Its great at sticking to flat surfaces, not so good on curves. And they don't even try and cover the corners on the device, which I would think are the places I'd want protected if I was to drop it.
The texture makes the back look very different from normal; its much nicer without the cover on. On the front, you can't really see the cover at all; edges are perfectly aligned with the phones edges.
The back and the front of the phone are covered very well. Sides not so great. Corners not at all. Front looks good. Back looks crap.
My opinion, its no way worth $24
just got mine on Friday exactly as it's described, protects almost every part of the phone with their cut out plastic shield, however as mentioned in earlier post... doesn't really cover the edges, all in all... does really stick and so far looks pretty ok with the exception of little bubbles within the shield (poor application technique)
marcel808 said:
I got one, just to try it out.
Exactly as described above. Its a bit fiddly getting on but once on, it sticks very well.
Its great at sticking to flat surfaces, not so good on curves. And they don't even try and cover the corners on the device, which I would think are the places I'd want protected if I was to drop it.
The texture makes the back look very different from normal; its much nicer without the cover on. On the front, you can't really see the cover at all; edges are perfectly aligned with the phones edges.
The back and the front of the phone are covered very well. Sides not so great. Corners not at all. Front looks good. Back looks crap.
My opinion, its no way worth $24
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Hi Marcel808,
Is it easy to peel it off without tearing the phone's original casing? Especially the back cover. I just ordered mine, hope it arrives soon.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425314
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I have used the Zagg's products (formerly Invisible Shield) on my 6800, 6700, wifes Centro and even custom ordered for my Pioneer 6800DVD in my car. I really like the product, the service is second to none... That said, I think since I have used the product and know how it performs in pockets, and how to install correctly (installed dozens of shields for myself, family and friends), I may try this new product.
Screen protection has always been great and flat surfaces (side) great as well but the corners usually give way, slide and start to bubble after about 4 months of heavy in and out of the pocket use.
This is a $24 experiment begging to happen.... now if Sprint would just release the damn phone!
I would also like to know this. Can it be removed again without leaving marks on the phone?
How scratch proof is it really?
Because of the lack of info on the site (still no video's on how to apply the thing, their forum is just about empty and they don't reply to customer questions...) they really don't seem to thrustworthy ...
DicE
serphinox said:
Hi Marcel808,
Is it easy to peel it off without tearing the phone's original casing? Especially the back cover. I just ordered mine, hope it arrives soon.
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mrrogers1 said:
I have used the Zagg's products (formerly Invisible Shield) on my 6800, 6700, wifes Centro and even custom ordered for my Pioneer 6800DVD in my car. I really like the product, the service is second to none... That said, I think since I have used the product and know how it performs in pockets, and how to install correctly (installed dozens of shields for myself, family and friends), I may try this new product.
Screen protection has always been great and flat surfaces (side) great as well but the corners usually give way, slide and start to bubble after about 4 months of heavy in and out of the pocket use.
This is a $24 experiment begging to happen.... now if Sprint would just release the damn phone!
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I would get the one released by Zagg. They offer a lifetime replacement on all products and they will replace it no questions I know. Their stuff is nearly impossible to scratch and I TRIED just about everything to scratch it. All phones full covers are $25. Never had any bubbling issues with Zagg's products.
yes it can easily be removed without any mark left at all....I found the cover started to collect dusk a lot (it must be slightly sticky) so I removed it.
Phantisy said:
I would get the one released by Zagg. They offer a lifetime replacement on all products and they will replace it no questions I know. Their stuff is nearly impossible to scratch and I TRIED just about everything to scratch it. All phones full covers are $25. Never had any bubbling issues with Zagg's products.
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Trust me, I know oh too well the replacement process and have replaced and installed many over the last 5 years.
The fact that I know the Zagg product so well, makes the experiment more interesting. I know the Zagg stuff so well that I will know if this Clear Coat stands a chance AND since it's only $25... It might turn out to be junk, the company could not stand behind the guarantee BUT we'll see.
*Update
Just got my phone yesterday and I just ordered the Clear Coat. I'll install and do a little initial write up. I'll order the Zagg shield when it becomes available and do a comparison.
It's only money and it IS a $700 device.... (but I only paid $250 for it)
Stay tuned guys.
**Update
Just ordered a Zagg full body shield at 40% off as they just got them and were doing a Halloween special I guess. I should have the Cleat Coat on Mon/Tues and the Zagg will probably be here the week after. I think I'll install the Clear Coat first, use it for a week or so and then install the Zagg and do the same.
Can anyone who has purchased tell me if there is a cutout for the speaker on the front? Tah!
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Can anyone who has purchased tell me if there is a cutout for the speaker on the front? Tah!
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I don't have mine yet but why on earth would there NOT be a cutout for the earpiece???

Seidio Innocase Surface Case - Pictures??

Has anybody purchased the Seidio Innocase Surface case?? Could you post some pictures?? I'm debating if I want it or not, but one picture on their website really doesn't show how thick it really is on the phone. Also looking at opinions if you have it on your Touch Pro/FUZE. Thanx.
I should be ordering the case this week. I'll let you know.
RallyPunx said:
Has anybody purchased the Seidio Innocase Surface case?? Could you post some pictures?? I'm debating if I want it or not, but one picture on their website really doesn't show how thick it really is on the phone. Also looking at opinions if you have it on your Touch Pro/FUZE. Thanx.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461936
That thread has links to the Seidio site, which has pictures of the case from different angles.
More specifically...if you go through this link and "mouse over" the picture of the case, it'll magnify the area:
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
If you actually click on the picture, it will take you to this page, which has a few different angles.
http://www.seidioonline.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I saw those pictures on the website, but you can't really see the area around the screen very much to see how deep the screen is with the case on. I don't use the stylus much and I think if the case is too thick, I will have trouble hitting the corner buttons (start, calendar, contacts) with my finger. Any thoughts?
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I should be ordering the case this week. I'll let you know.
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Please also let us know how well this case works for you. There is a similar type of case for $10 on ebay which causes a phone lockup due to improper fit around the screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761
The problem rears its ugly face usually after a couple days of use...
I'd be willing to pay 3x for a case that actually works!
thanks!
jknuckey said:
Please also let us know how well this case works for you. There is a similar type of case for $10 on ebay which causes a phone lockup due to improper fit around the screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761
The problem rears its ugly face usually after a couple days of use...
I'd be willing to pay 3x for a case that actually works!
thanks!
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I honestly don't see how any of these cases would work better than the ebay one. I had the BG one which actually is worse than the ebay unit. The ebay unit I have has been fine for more than a few days. It has to do with the flush screen of the FUZE so any excessive pressure against the screen would render the screen inoperable over time. BUT without the pressure/tension, there would be play once the upper piece is snapped on.
There isn't really much room to do this due to the flush screen IMHO.
I bought a similiar case from Brando. It is clear plastic instead of black. It works well and there was another thread about it here. It just blocks the PTT button on the Fuze. Ive used it for a month and it works fine, no screen problems. Only problem for me is one of the tabs came off, but it still stays on nice and sturdy. Its adds quite some thickness to this already thick phone.
I switched to the Innocase w/ holster about 1 week ago from the Body Glove 2-pc Snap Case. I like both:
The Body Glove is built like a Brick S--- House, has a very nice non-slip finish that actually matches a resident wallpaper. The phone is very safe in this case however, its a pocket carry, no belt clip.
The Innocase is half the thickness of the Body Glove. It fits like 2nd skin and has a silky feel and seems to be a bit slippery. The holster at 1st glace scared me. Thought the phone would pop out but I have found after a week of use, its just fine and very handy. The clip that holds the phone is spring loaded and can be locked to keep the phone from being removed if needed. The only problem I see is for those of you who wish to holster your phone and listen to music with a wired connection. The Headphone jack is slightly obscured by the Lock clip of the holster. Nothing a Dremel tool couldn't fix very quickly.
As stated, I like them both but use the Innocase as my daily protection. If I find myself exposed to rougher conditions, my choice is the Brick S--- House case from Body Glove. Both fit like second skin.

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