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Well, i have send a mail to Piel Frama, i was wondering of they are also
making a perfect in leader build case for the Ameo or HTC, i got a nice
reply returned.
So let's wait for the good news
Dear Tidde,
First of all I would like to thank you very much for your interest in our
products.
Regarding your question, we have to inform you that we have just received a
device for this model, and we have just started the manufacturing of the
first sample case for this device, so, we will have cases available for this
model in about 15 days. Don’t hesitate that we will put in contact you as
soon as we have the first sample case finished.
Please feel free to contact us for everything you need from us.
Very best regards and have a nice week!!
Rubén Montero
Export Manager.
Http://www.pielframa.com

Nice. I also emailed Ruben yesterday asking the same question.
Maybe we should use this time to provide this vendor with some input. Request things we would like to see in an Athena case by compiling a list from interested members then send this to Ruben. What do you guys think about the idea?

ltxda said:
Nice. I also emailed Ruben yesterday asking the same question.
Maybe we should use this time to provide this vendor with some input. Request things we would like to see in an Athena case by compiling a list from interested members then send this to Ruben. What do you guys think about the idea?
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Great idea.
First request has to be - magnets to hold the keyboard in the case, and not a nasty plastic sheath like on the otherwise excellent PDair case.

Belt clip...suggestions to Piel Frama.
Of course, we must have a belt clip.
No plastic cover for the screen please. I haven't had a case that has plastic for the screen that I've liked. I always ended up cutting out the plastic. I like using the screen protectors better and allows you to actually tap the screen without issues.
Place a plastic see through "window" on the case to be able to view the "status bar" when the phone is "closed". I would like to be able to see this area when having the phone closed while in its case.
Mesh covering on the speakers. I don't like to cover the speakers at all but would like a mesh covering to protect it without hindering the sound.
If I think of more items I'll post them.
Edit #1: No flap (closing snap or whatever it's called) on the case please. As with the original case, this isn't needed and I see most others have this. It just gets in the way and is annoying and not necessary for this phone.
Edit #2: Maybe a plastic insert for the clear plastic end of the keyboard to avoid scratches on the device. This is a bit stretching it but I'm posting the recommendation anyhow.

ltxda said:
Of course, we must have a belt clip.
No plastic cover for the screen please. I haven't had a case that has plastic for the screen that I've liked. I always ended up cutting out the plastic. I like using the screen protectors better and allows you to actually tap the screen without issues.
Place a plastic see through "window" on the case to be able to view the "status bar" when the phone is "closed". I would like to be able to see this area when having the phone closed while in its case.
Mesh covering on the speakers. I don't like to cover the speakers at all but would like a mesh covering to protect it without hindering the sound.
If I think of more items I'll post them.
Edit #1: No flap on the case please. As with the original case, this isn't needed and I see most others have this. It just gets in the way and is annoying and not necessary for this phone.
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personally, i think most of the Athena owner won't really want belt clip, it's too heavy and big to use it that way, and also most importantly, there is just no suitable place to allocate the belt clip, if the belt clip is under the screen, then the surface is not flat anymore therefore you can't use the keyboard.
Personally, i think 80% that Piel Frama Case won't have a belt clip.
p.s. I know a few members here in this thread will want to prove me wrong, well, all i can say is time will tell.

The great thing about the Piel Frama cases is that the clip is optional. You don't have to attach it if you don't want to. If you do want the clip, you pop out a little plastic thingy and screw in the clip "wheel" and use a clip...so this solution will work for all...hopefully.
Edit: Here's an animated GIF of how the clip system works on their cases... http://www.pielframa.com/Animaci%F3n%20grande%20pinza%20super%20nueva.gif

tvrman said:
Well, i have send a mail to Piel Frama, i was wondering of they are also
making a perfect in leader build case for the Ameo or HTC, i got a nice
reply returned.
So let's wait for the good news
Dear Tidde,
First of all I would like to thank you very much for your interest in our
products.
Regarding your question, we have to inform you that we have just received a
device for this model, and we have just started the manufacturing of the
first sample case for this device, so, we will have cases available for this
model in about 15 days. Don’t hesitate that we will put in contact you as
soon as we have the first sample case finished.
Please feel free to contact us for everything you need from us.
Very best regards and have a nice week!!
Rubén Montero
Export Manager.
Http://www.pielframa.com
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I'm e-mailing Ruben now asking him to check out this post.

Well done, hopefully he will look here and see what options are possible as they go to design? I definitely DO want a belt clip, as where I work I need both hands, but would like the Ameo handy when it's needed!!
Tim

I want:
Mostly as per the PDair case - I like the protection at the front of the Ameo.
Magnetic keyboard attachment, magentic, slide or push clip latch to keep it closed.
Belt loop, or another method of attachment that doesn't leave a component on the case. No pegs.
I don't like the status bar, I don't "use" it per se. It wastes backlight, running the whole screen, and isn't visible in the case anyway.
Of course, I really want it to be Not As Good (or just the same) as the PDair case, so I don't end up spending YET MORE MONEY!

Man, don't you peoples' pants/trousers ever fall down from weighty clip ons? There's NO WAY I could clip the Athena. My pants would come down to my knees!

TigerTim36 said:
Well done, hopefully he will look here and see what options are possible as they go to design? I definitely DO want a belt clip, as where I work I need both hands, but would like the Ameo handy when it's needed!!
Tim
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Do me a favor and also e-mail him to refer him to the post so he sees more interest in customization of this case.
Thnx

jeffharris said:
Man, don't you peoples' pants/trousers ever fall down from weighty clip ons? There's NO WAY I could clip the Athena. My pants would come down to my knees!
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I actually wear pants that fit like they are supposed to.

For me, the three things I'm looking for in a case are:
1) Something like the pdair case covering the housing of the phone in leather so the keyboard plastic bit doesn't scratch the screen.
2) Clip/latch to hold the thing shut.
3) Magnetic keyboard holder.
I personally don't need a belt clip, but any company that made it optional would probably be selling a lot of cases at the moment!
P.S. Has anyone noticed that Proporta are working on a case at the moment? It's on their website, but sadly no pictures yet.

All good idea to refer him to this post.
The belt option is no solution for this type of device i thinks
indead to carry a brick on you pants is not the way.
I think there should be made a wallet like case with the option to take
also some memory cards and other stuff in it, indead avoid the plastic
holder for the keyboard.
this case looks very nice.
http://www.pielframa.net/texas_instruments_voyage200.asp
let see where they come's up with..

I think that a belt clip or at least an option to have one would be a great idea. Would mean that the case would appeal to more customers from a marketing side of things. I would wear mine on a belt clip at work and then prob put in my pocket in the evening.
I wonder if anyone would make a leather case just for the screen without the keyboard? Id like to just carry the screen around without the keyboard, yet id be worried about the screen being protected when in my pocket.
So funky new case is a great idea, lets hope and im sure it will be a smart case

i'm looking for pielframa's UNIVERSAL PDA CASE BLACK fit to the athena (perfect would be a seperate pocket for the keyboard).

A case for parts of the Athena
The case that comes with Athena is very good when you want the whole thing with you. What I would like is a case that allows me to only take the phone part, not the keyboard. Something slim that protects the screen. It would allow me to safely take the Athena with me when space is sparse.
//Johan

joohan said:
The case that comes with Athena is very good when you want the whole thing with you. What I would like is a case that allows me to only take the phone part, not the keyboard. Something slim that protects the screen. It would allow me to safely take the Athena with me when space is sparse.
//Johan
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Completely agree with you just what im looking for.

That's what they invented "belts" for?
jeffharris said:
Man, don't you peoples' pants/trousers ever fall down from weighty clip ons? There's NO WAY I could clip the Athena. My pants would come down to my knees!
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"Belt Clip"? You know, those things that hold yer kecks up? I have the Ameo in my backpocket, and it JUST fits, but I can't sit down with it...
Belt clips rule...

skoop99 said:
"I have the Ameo in my backpocket
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omfg, a 800$ device in your backpocket?
what happens if you forget the ameo for one second and try to sit down ?

Kaiser cases

Since this is so new, it seems there are not many cases out there yet. The really neat ones are for the 8525, suppliers like: Krusell,seidio,beyza are not up to speed yet, or Am I wrong? Any one have any ideas on when there maybe releases?

I honestly love the one that came with the Kaiser. However, I heard that cases with magnetic flaps cause the Kaiser to automatically turn on since there is a magnetic connection to the slider keyboard. I'm not too familiar with this issue, but did read this somewhere.

I don't love the sideways case with velcro and non-springloaded belt hook, currently using a leather magnet flap case for a generic flip. Mine does not turn the phone On, depends on where the magnets are located as ones that are close to the keyboard's "open sensor" can turn the phone On. I'm rooting for Pocket Solutions to make one.
I'm watching the "Kaiser Accessories" area for the mose current info... as should you.

I put my Kaiser on my jeans' pocket with no cases (except screen protector).

gogol said:
I put my Kaiser on my jeans' pocket with no cases (except screen protector).
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You`re braver than me

Well, it should be fine inside the pocket, and the jeans is thick enough to protect the Kaiser and soft enough to not scratch the surface.
The only downside is dirt inside the pocket, but like I said, I always wipe it out clean (usually in the screen area). It will be the same in the case, screen get dirt.
My wife quite jealous the way I treat my Kaiser Because I will wipe clean the table, take a clean paper or tissue and put it like a carpet before I put my Kaiser ...
coercri said:
You`re braver than me
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gogol said:
Well, it should be fine inside the pocket, and the jeans is thick enough to protect the Kaiser and soft enough to not scratch the surface.
The only downside is dirt inside the pocket, but like I said, I always wipe it out clean (usually in the screen area). It will be the same in the case, screen get dirt.
My wife quite jealous the way I treat my Kaiser Because I will wipe clean the table, take a clean paper or tissue and put it like a carpet before I put my Kaiser ...
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Yeah, i treat my Kaiser better than my wife

Krussel will release the ORBIT case for the TyTN II during October.

PDAir have just released a couple of Kaiser cases, and there are a few similar cases on eBay. Piel Frama have told me they'll have one in the next month or so.
4ustuff is a Hong-Kong based wholesaler that has a lot of Kaiser stuff, some of which may make its way into the retail channel.

on the Pocket Solutions website they're offering a fullbody "SkinGuardz" for the Tytn II...only problem is it's not in stock...i prefer a solution like this vs. a case (although one drop on the ground might force me to change my mind).

I used a slightly altered PDAir case for the Hermes (i cut all the clear plastic off over the keyboard and used Velcro to attach the phone to the case - worked really well. But with the Kaiser I`m leaning more toward the pouch type case, or perhaps a thin silicone case, but Ive not seen one of those yet.

Just Wireless Case
I bought a case at Staples yesterday from a company called Just Wireless. It is for a Blackberry/ Treo 750, but the TyTN II fit's in it perfectly. It is a holster type and it has a slim belt clip. You can probably find them at Walmart, Target, and others like that as the case retails for about $18.00. (picture taken with my TyTN II attached)
It may not be the best case, but it does the job for someone like me who is on traveling all the time and needs quick access.
James

jamesjsenecal said:
I bought a case at Staples yesterday from a company called Just Wireless. It is for a Blackberry/ Treo 750, but the TyTN II fit's in it perfectly. It is a holster type and it has a slim belt clip. You can probably find them at Walmart, Target, and others like that as the case retails for about $18.00. (picture taken with my TyTN II attached)
It may not be the best case, but it does the job for someone like me who is on traveling all the time and needs quick access.
James
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Another option is this camera case -- I picked one up at my local Fry's a couple weeks back for $6.99. I see they've lowered the online price to below $5 -- that's going to be hard to beat.

i am a huge fan of gizmoskin.com if you read reviews on the cases you will see they use a very high grade leather. looks amazing and holds up like a champ. i have not seen their equal except for very very expensive designer cases. have been using their cases for he last 3 years
i asked them about a kaiser case and they said thy would look into it. if you want a nice case shoot them an email and say your interested.

I would love this one! (Cause I'm paranoid and had a Metal one for my Wizard...) but I can't seem to find anyone that carries them...
http://4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2039
//Nik

How is the case that comes with the Kaiser
I hope the one that comes with the Tilt is the same

As far as free cases go the one that comes with the Kaiser is excellent, very soft. I am waiting on a holster because I don't like taking the phone out the case while driving.

I use the holster I had for my old 8525. It fits my new TyTN ll perfectly.

w4rmk said:
As far as free cases go the one that comes with the Kaiser is excellent, very soft. I am waiting on a holster because I don't like taking the phone out the case while driving.
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Cool, I will order one from mobileplanet

Krusell
m0bov said:
Krussel will release the ORBIT case for the TyTN II during October.
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In my opinion Krusell make quality cases which are practical. I bought one for my Vaio I. recently the clip broke, due to rushing through a doorway and having the phone yanked off the clip.
Krusell said send it back with proof of purchase and they will replace beacuse it comes with A LIFETIME gurantee.
Max

Krusel case for the kaiser!

Krusell finaly announced a case for the TytnII I think these are the best casses in the market I have used on with the K jam,then the Jasjam and I will order this one when it becomes available later this month.
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=2774

Wow, thanks. I've been waiting for Krusell to come out with a case for the TyTN II. I have sent an email to my local vendors right away.
Thanks,
Phil

Man that case does look nice, i hope it isn't to bulky

ekw said:
Man that case does look nice, i hope it isn't to bulky
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That's my only worry. I agree they do look like very good cases, but I'd really like a case that protects without making the phone 50% thicker!

Krusell cases are excellent value for money - I've used them for years

Squeaker said:
That's my only worry. I agree they do look like very good cases, but I'd really like a case that protects without making the phone 50% thicker!
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I agree. My last phone was the Palm Treo 650 and after removing the phone after having it in my Krussel case for awhile, I was surprised how small my phone felt 'nude'.
Cheers,
Phil

Personally the only thing I miss from my old Jasjam is the Krusell leather case I find it hard to use with the supplied case and always fear dropping it

Squeaker said:
That's my only worry. I agree they do look like very good cases, but I'd really like a case that protects without making the phone 50% thicker!
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I have tired to find cool slim cases for my Wizard and Hermes with NO luck. Some of the better leather cases that are thin do not work well as the phone can slide out (when moving fast or coming down stairs) and the uber cool two piece plastic case (this case was cool as you can slide open keyboard without having to open anything - face is always visible too) I found a few months ago was cool until the plastic would no longer keep the phone in the case and would fall right out. Between the Wizard and Hermes, I have owned about 15 cases including the Aluminum cases. All are a bust! I just ordered the Krusell tonight (will ship Next Day Air tomorrow) and will settle for a thicker case in which my phone will NEVER get damaged. I will provide feedback on Wednesday when it arrives..
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Images of Krusell Case and my Tilt!
I am a case freak and have purchased every case under the sun (pouches, Aluminum, two piece snap-on case and many many more) for my Wizard and Hermes in the past. It really surprises me that NO ONE can make a good case that allows the PDA/Phone to be FUNCTIONAL while providing good protection. Today my Krusell arrived. Before purchasing I was mixed on the main flap that covers the entire phone when closed. I like to be able to glance at my phone to see incoming calls, emails and text messages.
Anyway, the case is well made and the phone fits firmly into the case (which means phone will not fall out). I do not like the fact that the clip is placed "high" on the rear of the case. When sitting one must becareful not to break the clip. Running with the phone attached could be an issue as well with the clip placement high. Unforunately you have to unsnap the 2nd smaller flap to slide the phone open for keyboard use. I have dealt with this in the past and will probably be ok with it. Bottom line is the case protects the phone very very well. In the past I have found good functional cases that did not protector or hold the phone well. Images are below. Sorry for the poor lighting as I took these at work. I have a photo light at home and will take better images tonight.
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Thanks for the pics! I was hoping someone would get this case and post some pics. You can't always rely on the sellers pics.
I am a real big fan of the Krusell cases. I think you will be hard pressed to find better made product. Having said that, I just can't warm up to this case. If it was more like the one for the 8525 I would buy it in a second. It fit my "needs" on the 8525 perfect for how I use the phone. Plus I didn't have to lift a single flap to operate it. This one for the Kaiser/Tilt does, and you have to flip open two flaps to use the keyboard.
I guess I will pass on this one.
Maybe I need to get the thread, needle and some fine Corinthian leather out and make my own.

GWelker62 said:
Thanks for the pics! I was hoping someone would get this case and post some pics. You can't always rely on the sellers pics.
I am a real big fan of the Krusell cases. I think you will be hard pressed to find better made product. Having said that, I just can't warm up to this case. If it was more like the one for the 8525 I would buy it in a second. It fit my "needs" on the 8525 perfect for how I use the phone. Plus I didn't have to lift a single flap to operate it. This one for the Kaiser/Tilt does, and you have to flip open two flaps to use the keyboard.
I guess I will pass on this one.
Maybe I need to get the thread, needle and some fine Corinthian leather out and make my own.
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I agree with you on the functionality (to many flaps).. But for the meantime I will use for protection therefore my search "will" continue.. Your IDEA of making your own case is good. So hard to find a good case for any Phone these days.
I do like this one: https://www.noreve.com/product_info.php?products_id=2069
L8
Will give it a shot next week when it ships.....

Has anyone purchased and received the Noreve Kaiser case yet?
Would be interested in seeing how it works. I'm still using my Krusell horizontal pouch that I used with the 8525 and it makes the device easily accessible rather than having to open many things to access the device like the book cases.

species8472_rules said:
I agree with you on the functionality (to many flaps).. But for the meantime I will use for protection therefore my search "will" continue.. Your IDEA of making your own case is good. So hard to find a good case for any Phone these days.
I do like this one: https://www.noreve.com/product_info.php?products_id=2069
L8
Will give it a shot next week when it ships.....
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Ya but that's like a $80US case!!! Where can I get it cheaper?

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That case just completely blocked the rear camera altogether ???

UnicornKaz said:
That case just completely blocked the rear camera altogether ???
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Yes, I FORGOT to mention that. Have no idea why?

h0mersimps0n said:
Ya but that's like a $80US case!!! Where can I get it cheaper?
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I have no idea where to get cheaper.. I will spend some time in the next few days attempting to find where (if any).

UnicornKaz said:
That case just completely blocked the rear camera altogether ???
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nah... scroll further down the page and you will see that the camera is not covered

hangyong said:
nah... scroll further down the page and you will see that the camera is not covered
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I guess you can expose the camera.. I never noticed.. I did not notice that you can pull the rear of the case down to expose the camera and speaker (the magnet is pretty strong).

h0mersimps0n said:
Ya but that's like a $80US case!!! Where can I get it cheaper?
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Try the US site for Noreve. It's "only" $45:
http://www.noreveusa.com/product/ATT_Tilt_-_HTC_P4550_-_HTC_Tytn_2_Tradition_leather_case.html

Another case thread...Slimmest Kaiser Case?

Well there seems to be a lot of views about the best cases out there, just wondered what the most 'pocket friendly' case was?
Don't care about the material as long as it isn't a sock or a stick-on option (ie an actual case)
Definitely no belt loop, preferably a very low profile clasp etc...
Basically just want something that is likely to stop it getting scratched up in a bag or if it was dropped, but don't need full armour!
Any good suggestions?

I've been looking for something pocket friendly as well... I'm almost ready to just get a thin sunglass pouch... currently I'm using a case for a Sprint Mogul, but it has a belt clip...

i use an ipod slip case, and have pulled off the belt clip, gives good protection to the screen,
going to order a leater slip case from www.pdair.com to see what thats like

I've got one of these - http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561
Doesn't add much to the size at all, and I keep mine in my pocket all the time.

Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm

I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone

scharnet said:
Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm
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The "tiltflipblack" is made by PDair and is available for 1/2 that price. I've had one for several weeks and it still looks new, and I wear it every day. It's the perfect case for me.

The slimest most "pocketable" case I've found yet, is the formfitting Noreve case as seen here:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00006945.htm
It is also one of the very few - true - formfitting cases (using a laminated leather design, w/o the ugly and disturbing plasting cover over the KB. It protects the front and back really well, if not so much the sides. Easy to use and good workmanship.
Actually it IS meant (IMO) for pocket carrying.
Have it for about a month, still looks as new. If however looking for a drawback, then to my daily use pattern there is one. While in the case using the Kaiser/Tilt for navigation (in a cradle) needs taking it out of the case.
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Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Just wanted to add my comments based on owning 4 different cases for the Tilt/Kaiser ...
The PDAir aluminum cased is good and pocketable. It is a little on the heavy side, but I've carried it arond now for a couple of weeks and it's all right. The downside is that there is a hard plastic protector over the touchscreen of the Tilt. You have to open the case to use the touchscreen or you have to take the hard plastic out. You can either cut out or push it out with some force, but the plastic is glued in and is under the neoprene that cushions the Tilt against the case. Not the smallest feel in the pocket, but no leather covered cardboard bulk feel. The size of this reminds me of a naked 8125 in my pocket (did that without disaster for almost 2 years).
I also tried the PDAir leather flip case. That one is definitely not pocketable unless you have some REALLY big pockets. And I'm not a big flip cover guy. Another strike is the plastic keyboard cover.
I also tried the Noreve and it's a nice leather case. I would consider this one pocketable, it's rather slim. But it has the flip cover. The good thing is that it has no plastic keyboard cover. It's a little loose when you close the cover with the snap. It's not loosely held in ... that's a good fit. But the snap doesn't hold the flip cover down as firmly as I'd like.
Lastly, I JUST snapped on one of the plastic snap-on kind. Good fit, but not sure how much the plastic will help in a fall. It snapped on tightly ... so tightly it took 15 minutes to get it off! I did not like that at all. If something goes wrong and you need to drop the battery quickly ... 'quickly' won't happen with this case. You can still use the touchscreen and it's a very tight snap on fit. Doesn't add much bulk or weight for pocket storage. NOTE: if you pick one of these up, be careful and check whether the belt clip button on the case is screw on or permanent. The permanent ones won't be pocketable.
The best feel in the pocket is the plane Tilt/Kaiser with no case. But I know I'm pushing my luck if I continue to do that. Still switching up to see what I end up liking most. Hope this info helps folks.

Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
YES!
The openings for the keypad and LCD are tappered to provide the best access to the edges but they become alittle harder to get at due to the thickness of the plastic.
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
Yes the screen slides out and up to the normal position. The upper softkeys are silightly harder to get at when tilted due to the tickness of the plastic.
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
Fit was tight, and snapped into place. I do not plan to use the clip as it is optional, but I will follow up with a proper review and test it out. I will get exact mesuraments later but it is not a big change and well worth the extra size.
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Yup! Cheap Too!
I will follow up with a better review tonight.

What I do not understand about using the transparent plastic snap, is why the hack would one need a case at all when all the really "pocket sensitive" components (Touch screen, Camera lens) are not covered at all... IMO if one is indiferent to this, they may not need a case at all.
I guess that all cases are kind of trade offs. Whatever protects adds bulk in the zones protected, light protection protects less than heavy armor but presents snappier use and so on.
The potentially best solution I've seen yet is actually not offered for the Tilt/Kaiser. It is made by EB Cases and called the eNovo. It is made of sturdy yet thin laminated leather, offering a form fitting case with an optional leather flip.
http://www.ebcases.com/-strse-3333/eNOVO-PAQ-6500/Detail.bok
I'm trying for some time to convince EB, Noreve and BoxWave (the ones apparently having the technology) to think about it...
Cheers,
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Saar

thanks kahibbi and SpeedRazr for your input, i look forward to your review

SpeedRazr said:
I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I picked this up from DayDeal.com and it didnt' fit my ATT tilt. the back does but the front will not stay on
i picked up the alum. case for travel and biking it is perfect. also from DayDeal

Seidio Innocase Surface Case - Pictures??

Has anybody purchased the Seidio Innocase Surface case?? Could you post some pictures?? I'm debating if I want it or not, but one picture on their website really doesn't show how thick it really is on the phone. Also looking at opinions if you have it on your Touch Pro/FUZE. Thanx.

I should be ordering the case this week. I'll let you know.

RallyPunx said:
Has anybody purchased the Seidio Innocase Surface case?? Could you post some pictures?? I'm debating if I want it or not, but one picture on their website really doesn't show how thick it really is on the phone. Also looking at opinions if you have it on your Touch Pro/FUZE. Thanx.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461936
That thread has links to the Seidio site, which has pictures of the case from different angles.

More specifically...if you go through this link and "mouse over" the picture of the case, it'll magnify the area:
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
If you actually click on the picture, it will take you to this page, which has a few different angles.
http://www.seidioonline.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK

I saw those pictures on the website, but you can't really see the area around the screen very much to see how deep the screen is with the case on. I don't use the stylus much and I think if the case is too thick, I will have trouble hitting the corner buttons (start, calendar, contacts) with my finger. Any thoughts?

D3TH METAL said:
I should be ordering the case this week. I'll let you know.
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Please also let us know how well this case works for you. There is a similar type of case for $10 on ebay which causes a phone lockup due to improper fit around the screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761
The problem rears its ugly face usually after a couple days of use...
I'd be willing to pay 3x for a case that actually works!
thanks!

jknuckey said:
Please also let us know how well this case works for you. There is a similar type of case for $10 on ebay which causes a phone lockup due to improper fit around the screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761
The problem rears its ugly face usually after a couple days of use...
I'd be willing to pay 3x for a case that actually works!
thanks!
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I honestly don't see how any of these cases would work better than the ebay one. I had the BG one which actually is worse than the ebay unit. The ebay unit I have has been fine for more than a few days. It has to do with the flush screen of the FUZE so any excessive pressure against the screen would render the screen inoperable over time. BUT without the pressure/tension, there would be play once the upper piece is snapped on.
There isn't really much room to do this due to the flush screen IMHO.

I bought a similiar case from Brando. It is clear plastic instead of black. It works well and there was another thread about it here. It just blocks the PTT button on the Fuze. Ive used it for a month and it works fine, no screen problems. Only problem for me is one of the tabs came off, but it still stays on nice and sturdy. Its adds quite some thickness to this already thick phone.

I switched to the Innocase w/ holster about 1 week ago from the Body Glove 2-pc Snap Case. I like both:
The Body Glove is built like a Brick S--- House, has a very nice non-slip finish that actually matches a resident wallpaper. The phone is very safe in this case however, its a pocket carry, no belt clip.
The Innocase is half the thickness of the Body Glove. It fits like 2nd skin and has a silky feel and seems to be a bit slippery. The holster at 1st glace scared me. Thought the phone would pop out but I have found after a week of use, its just fine and very handy. The clip that holds the phone is spring loaded and can be locked to keep the phone from being removed if needed. The only problem I see is for those of you who wish to holster your phone and listen to music with a wired connection. The Headphone jack is slightly obscured by the Lock clip of the holster. Nothing a Dremel tool couldn't fix very quickly.
As stated, I like them both but use the Innocase as my daily protection. If I find myself exposed to rougher conditions, my choice is the Brick S--- House case from Body Glove. Both fit like second skin.