we all know that there will be no wm5 4 magicin nd blueangel has already + qwert keypad and i think it is cheaper than jam ...................it just that bit is big can any body recommend any other solution or tell how well ba performs compared to mini
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
oltp said:
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
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I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
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I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
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Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
Regards, M
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Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
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It seems that MDA Compact 2 is the only Charmer around. If that
s the case, as with probability concept, chances of number of users on Charmer will be naturally smaller.
BTW, what do you mean by T-Mobile is selling the Wizard, not the Charmer?
Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
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Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
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any body not intersted in ba plz i want to exchange my mini with a ba can anybody tell how well wm5 works on ba and 1 more thing does bluetooth on newer pdas like mini stins caz it it is tooooooooo slow in my case (maybe caz of ms stock)
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
kdskamal said:
max414 said:
how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
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ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
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max414 said:
ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
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all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
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all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
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Yes, it is ard $70-80 dollars expensive than mini. Universal has its own share of problems. But, it is completly different product IMHO. On the other hand, K-jam is not at all mammoth size. It just a bit too think(almost similar width as of universal). If you seek for similar size as that of mini, go in for jamin(imate) or Atom(o2)
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just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2. Can you please help me. the camera seems to have a lower res quality thatn the xda2 but it says that it has 1.3MegaPxls... and also it cant read my 512MB mmc. my gosh i think im short-changed with this gadget(nalugi yata ako). please help
Its not slower at all. Perhaps you have a broke XDAII mini.
Also 512 MMC should work fine, try formating it in another device first.
If that fails to work, and it works in the XDA II still, I'd reccomend sending it back :?
The cam is not the best at the moment, I think a new software version will help improve it.
Well I had the XDA 2 and then the XDA IIs as well as quite a few Ipaqs including th hx 3715 and a fujitsu looks and I think that this is the best hand held device by far. I also use a 1gb SD card without any problems as well as an SD wi-fi card, although I do agree with you on one point and that is the camera sucks big time................
fella's,
where did you get your xda 2 minis from as i to live in the Uk and would like to purchase one.
I'am just about to sell my xda2, so please let me know
Thanks alot
Z
The O2 XDA Mini, T-Mobile MDA Compact, i-Mate JAM and Qtek 100S are completely identical, except for their respective painted logo's (and extended roms). I had a MDA Compact 64Mb and changed to a 128Mb i-mate JAM (PPCTECHS upgrade), I removed logo's on both of them with the sugarcube trick, and can now only distinguish the one from the other by their memory sizes. Hence, waiting for O2 to come out with the Mini will only be worthwhile if you do not mind to having it locked to the O2 network. Otherwise, go with the i-Mate JAM or Qtek as they come unlocked.
I purchased my upgraded i-Mate JAM from Mad Monkey Boys Gadgets at http://www.dweiniger.com/. Perfect, reliable and swift. Also accepts Paypal
i got mine from expansys but amazon.co.uk is cheaper now youll pick one up for around £380 sim free
gaz
Gaz,
Thanks for the info m8, I have ordered one from expansys, did'nt realise Amazon were selling them never mind...
Thanks alot
Ian
dr_ray_adalem said:
just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2. Can you please help me. the camera seems to have a lower res quality thatn the xda2 but it says that it has 1.3MegaPxls... and also it cant read my 512MB mmc. my gosh i think im short-changed with this gadget(nalugi yata ako). please help
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Doc...
I think it be best to return it. Where'd you get anyway?
Is your MMC the same card you used before or is it a brand new one? I use an SD card and got it off for an awfully cheap price. around 2900PhP. Just PM if you want to know where to buy another.
As for the camera, I really can't tell unless it's taking a shot at night but the ROM update should do the trick.
If you want it to be 128MB it has to be modded and that will immediately void your warranty.
Here in Dubai, I am waiting for someone to come over and do the 128MB modding.
@Wiz, can anyone do the 128MB modding? Can I buy it from I-Mate since they do have an office here?
dr_ray_adalem said:
just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2.
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The mini has half the RAM of the XDA II so it takes longer to respond.
The memory can be upgraded but it may invalidate your warranty.
Bought mine from Modaco
Wiz, what is the sugarcube trick? I also want to remove the iMate logo from my iJam. Thanks!
thanks for the reply. but can you teach me how to upgrade the rom into 128mb? where can i get the program to do it. Godbless u all.
The Sugarcube trick basically is about taking a sugarcube and start rubbing the logo until it's gone ... sugar apparently is hard enough to get rid of the paint but soft enough not to damage the casing.
The 128MB Mod is exclusively done by www.ppctechs.com, although Dave Weiniger at http://www.dweiniger.com/ (MadMonkeyBoy's Gadgets) sells i-Mate Jams pre-rigged with 128MB RAM by PPCTECHS. It's from Dave Weiner that I got mine, excellent service.
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The mini has half the RAM of the XDA II so it takes longer to respond.
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Not true. Programs run just as fast in 64MB as they do in 128MB. Decreasing the amount of RAM on it's own does not degrade processing speed. The only thing it does is limit the number of applications you can have running at the same time. Use a small task switcher such as Vbar to close the apps you're not using and a 64MB Jam will be just as responsive as one with 128MB. In fact, it may even run slightly quicker, as an expanded version will have more overhead (and battery drain) from dynamically refreshing double the RAM.
9100 is great, little big to carry around, but nice with w-lan and everything else. WM2005, didn´t like it in the beginning but now after 1 week I like it.. as all the other windows-based things u can do whatever u want
But now it´s confirmed, S200 is coming to sweden in the beginning of 2006. The size is like s100, s110 unbeatable......
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...obile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet.shtml
i want one. is this thing just a prototype or htc for sure is gonna make it? and i read it has wifi 802.11g could this be true?
The English version is also available:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Compare with Magician, the camera of Prophet has improved a lot. Added Wifi and EDGE but the CPU is changed to slower OMAP... :!:
I donno why HTC want to change CPU type. But this totally prevent existing Magician users from directly upgrade the ROM from WM2003SE to WM5 without buying new device... :roll:
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i want one. is this thing just a prototype or htc for sure is gonna make it? and i read it has wifi 802.11g could this be true?
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yes. Built-in module Wi- fie of version g;
T Mobile
This device is already available with another name from T Mobile :lol:
But as said, OMAP OMAP OMAP
I will wait until next year for the new devices
How does this thing compare to the HTC Charmer aka T-Mobile MDA Compact II, which is supposed to be the WM2005 successor to Magician?
And Charmer should be available already from T-Mobile ;-)
As far as I know, the Charmer has no Wifi and no 2 MPix camera.
@ all
Don't forget: The Hermes is going to come out pretty soon (first half of next year they said).
hi there
I know it's WM5 upgrade not available right now but I was just wondering that if it'll ever be possible that mini would be upgraded to WM5.Is it possible or mini doesn't meet the hardware requirements of WM5?your ideas?
Read the forums This was discussed all over the place!
However
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
I get mine hopefully next week when I am over in China.
Nope, never, jamais, nunca, nie, никогда, nooit, ποτέ, mai.
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You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
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I hope that you are aware that Magician and o2 atom are not only different devices, BUT ALSO FROM DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.
I will not be so naive to hope for WM5 on Magician, instead I hope for a nice brandnew WM5 device under the christmas tree. This hope is more likely to become true
Oh, another one!
:mrgreen: :lol: BWAAA HAA HAA HAAA HAAAA HAAAA :lol: :mrgreen:
Sorry, but I find people who ask this funny!
Especially because WM5 is absolutely uninteresting. It has been very slow on almost any new devices and the "nomore backups" issue isn't important to most of us people since we know how to make good backups - don't we?
I think WM5 is interessting! Not because of the Backup-Options.
Look here:
http://mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm2005-1-en.shtml
The Outlook Contacts for example are _much_ better in WM5.
You see the Contact's full name _and_ the numbers and calling is so much easier!
Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
Unfortunately WM5 on the Magician is almost impossible. Unofficial upgrades for other devices occured simply because M$ and/or carriers were testing the new OS on these devices and the ROM got leaked. Now that the testing is over who do you think will take his time and effort to develop this interface for free??? And that's providing he/she has the necessary resources.
At this point the only way to upgrade to WM5 is to sell your device and get a new one :-( I will probably go for the 02 XDA Atom or HTC Prophet fairly soon.
(btw, I really really hope someone proves me wrong )
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
nato said:
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
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No. How may times does it have to be said. Read the post immediately before yours. :roll:
It's not going to happen.
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Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
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Thanks kta for sorting that out. I just got the Mini, so it'll be a little while before I get the Atom - they don't sell too many of these types of phones here in Canada. No matter, I'll be happy with what I've got. Cheers!
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
jb2001 said:
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
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Not really the answer you want, but my philosophy on life is, get the best you can today and not worry about what's out tomorrow... otherwise you'll never get anything because you'll always find that a month or so down the line something better will come out... so to say!
Otherwise, the Zinc does seem impressive... but O2 have already delayed the release once, so who's to say it will actually be out at the end of march anyway
True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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I'll agree with you on that... I used to have a hx4700 myself... it was the VGA aspect that appealed to me, but I felt it was before its time... oh, and slightly big!
I think the Zinc will have v5.2 on it???
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
You may never flash WM6 on a Zinc...
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I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Absolutly agree.... I kept all my CAB files on my SD card..Just incase.. but that was WM03se. Is there a HTC "official" rom update available for wm6...where did the wm6 roms come from?? oh and whats the best...
back to the original question,
I own a TYTN and ive had good test run with the Zinc, even though the Zinc has a faster OS the tytn feels faster and reacts better. The finish of the Zinc is a big cheap looking too.
If i was to buy a new phone today it would be the Tytn again, if i was to wait then it would be kaiser or even one of the new samsungs.
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
and is there a today plugin simliar to the Orange today screen
Problem with O2 is the data charges. They're probably the worst out of all the UK networks!
I'd hate to get a phone like the Zinc or Kaiser and have to constantly monitor my data useage.
jb2001 said:
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
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Excellent choice (in terms of looks - a very stylish design).
jb2001 said:
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
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That's far too big a question. You've got some reading to do - see the wiki
for the mods.. you can delete this message if you want...
i just want people warned specially in asia region that o2 zinc is not that good ..
although better processor ( but you will not see the difference compare to HTC hermes ),camera and o2 integrated software..
THere are many other choices on O2 products... Atom exec, atom life..etc..
Just not this is O2 Zinc is not worth recommending....
or im strongly recommending HTC HERMES (Dopod 838 pro, Softbank, or the HTC Tytn if available) if your fun of slide keyboard...
I promised you this will be a great help on you...
Trust me...
I just want you to be happy like me now..
HELLO!!! I'm about to buy a new PPC so I need an advice! Which one? Is the winner T-mobile MDA or T-mobile Wing? Some say Wing is too slow? Is that truth because they have almost the same hardware (OMAP850...)? Please HELP!!!
I had an MDA before and I prefer my Herald over it any day. The specifications might be the same but there are many small differences that make the Herald the favourable device.. If the Herald and Wing are the same then things such as the Wing being SDHC compatible, spring keyboard, stylus actually stays in the phone (one thing that pissed me off the most about the MDA, stylus got so loose after a while) are a few reasons why I prefer it. Thats just to name a few, also difference in size, Herald is much slimmer.
As for the speed, in my opinion modifying the page pool takes care of that.
Hope that helps in your decision.
I too had the MDA before the wing. I like the full length styls, spring keyboard, smaller size, and actual windows/ok keys/
get the wing, forget the mda, wing is better in every way, after you apply the 6mb pagepool patch and install battery status the wing will FLY !!!!! i love my wing... now if only they can fix the battery drain when radio off glitch...
Gotta agree with these guys. I went from an MDA, to a Pearl, to a Wing. And with the new RUU floating around for the wing, we're bound to see as much customization as we have with the wizard. I mean, take a look at viet's roms for example. And those are even without the ruu.
I went from an MDA to a Wing. It was an excellent upgrade. I love the MDA but the Wing is better in some aspects. Like Mi|enko said, customizations are bound to make an appearance. The wizard has more hacks and cracks than any other phone I've ever seen. The Wing will get it's time soon.
I just got my Wing from having a MDA. And I am very please with it. Even though the initial internal memory is lower, overall the pro's of the Wing win BIG TIME!!! Plus, native WM6.
I had the mda vario (wizard) and made some benchmark tests - and the XDA terra is even faster without overclocking than the mda.
AND it is much thinner - better for your pocket. and with the change of pagepool it is really a good device.
I love it.
Something else to consider
I got my wing in the U.S.
It has no IR!!!
And I am in serious need of hacks. T-Mobile has customized their version of WM6 so much that memory is at a real premium.
Except for WM6, I prefer my Wizard.