just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2. Can you please help me. the camera seems to have a lower res quality thatn the xda2 but it says that it has 1.3MegaPxls... and also it cant read my 512MB mmc. my gosh i think im short-changed with this gadget(nalugi yata ako). please help
Its not slower at all. Perhaps you have a broke XDAII mini.
Also 512 MMC should work fine, try formating it in another device first.
If that fails to work, and it works in the XDA II still, I'd reccomend sending it back :?
The cam is not the best at the moment, I think a new software version will help improve it.
Well I had the XDA 2 and then the XDA IIs as well as quite a few Ipaqs including th hx 3715 and a fujitsu looks and I think that this is the best hand held device by far. I also use a 1gb SD card without any problems as well as an SD wi-fi card, although I do agree with you on one point and that is the camera sucks big time................
fella's,
where did you get your xda 2 minis from as i to live in the Uk and would like to purchase one.
I'am just about to sell my xda2, so please let me know
Thanks alot
Z
The O2 XDA Mini, T-Mobile MDA Compact, i-Mate JAM and Qtek 100S are completely identical, except for their respective painted logo's (and extended roms). I had a MDA Compact 64Mb and changed to a 128Mb i-mate JAM (PPCTECHS upgrade), I removed logo's on both of them with the sugarcube trick, and can now only distinguish the one from the other by their memory sizes. Hence, waiting for O2 to come out with the Mini will only be worthwhile if you do not mind to having it locked to the O2 network. Otherwise, go with the i-Mate JAM or Qtek as they come unlocked.
I purchased my upgraded i-Mate JAM from Mad Monkey Boys Gadgets at http://www.dweiniger.com/. Perfect, reliable and swift. Also accepts Paypal
i got mine from expansys but amazon.co.uk is cheaper now youll pick one up for around £380 sim free
gaz
Gaz,
Thanks for the info m8, I have ordered one from expansys, did'nt realise Amazon were selling them never mind...
Thanks alot
Ian
dr_ray_adalem said:
just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2. Can you please help me. the camera seems to have a lower res quality thatn the xda2 but it says that it has 1.3MegaPxls... and also it cant read my 512MB mmc. my gosh i think im short-changed with this gadget(nalugi yata ako). please help
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Doc...
I think it be best to return it. Where'd you get anyway?
Is your MMC the same card you used before or is it a brand new one? I use an SD card and got it off for an awfully cheap price. around 2900PhP. Just PM if you want to know where to buy another.
As for the camera, I really can't tell unless it's taking a shot at night but the ROM update should do the trick.
If you want it to be 128MB it has to be modded and that will immediately void your warranty.
Here in Dubai, I am waiting for someone to come over and do the 128MB modding.
@Wiz, can anyone do the 128MB modding? Can I buy it from I-Mate since they do have an office here?
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just bought a new xda2 mini and i have many questions about its functionality. Is there any remedy with its low built-in memory. I use to have the xda2 & i traded it to the new mini but i realize that its even slower than the xda2.
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The mini has half the RAM of the XDA II so it takes longer to respond.
The memory can be upgraded but it may invalidate your warranty.
Bought mine from Modaco
Wiz, what is the sugarcube trick? I also want to remove the iMate logo from my iJam. Thanks!
thanks for the reply. but can you teach me how to upgrade the rom into 128mb? where can i get the program to do it. Godbless u all.
The Sugarcube trick basically is about taking a sugarcube and start rubbing the logo until it's gone ... sugar apparently is hard enough to get rid of the paint but soft enough not to damage the casing.
The 128MB Mod is exclusively done by www.ppctechs.com, although Dave Weiniger at http://www.dweiniger.com/ (MadMonkeyBoy's Gadgets) sells i-Mate Jams pre-rigged with 128MB RAM by PPCTECHS. It's from Dave Weiner that I got mine, excellent service.
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The mini has half the RAM of the XDA II so it takes longer to respond.
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Not true. Programs run just as fast in 64MB as they do in 128MB. Decreasing the amount of RAM on it's own does not degrade processing speed. The only thing it does is limit the number of applications you can have running at the same time. Use a small task switcher such as Vbar to close the apps you're not using and a 64MB Jam will be just as responsive as one with 128MB. In fact, it may even run slightly quicker, as an expanded version will have more overhead (and battery drain) from dynamically refreshing double the RAM.
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This version does not have build in wifi. Read more here
Pfff .. mis-information ... It's only a JAM upgraded by PocketPcTechs...
Haha, do not call it "only" a JAM, it is indeed a SuperJAM. I was a bit frustrated with my 64Mb JAM prior to the upgrade, due to the fact that I do need quite a few programs on there, but ever since I had it upgraded (approx 3 weeks ago), it has been a genuine thrill to use!!!!
This has already been out for a while. You an actually get it upgraded as long as you are going to the "right" places. It will cost you. But after doing a hrad reset and following the thread on how to save more memory thread, I am thinking twice.
Unless you have lots of apps that must be put in main memory, then what's the point? I've got huge amounts of stuff on mine, yet not one needs to be installed in main memory. Of the 57mb memory, 47 is free - adding another 64 to that wouldn't make any difference to its capabilities
i'm with mvmajorem on this one... 128mb ram sounds very nice indeed but I'm happy with my 39mb free after installing all the apps I frequently use and following some of the tips on the said memory thread
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Haha, do not call it "only" a JAM, it is indeed a SuperJAM. I was a bit frustrated with my 64Mb JAM prior to the upgrade, due to the fact that I do need quite a few programs on there, but ever since I had it upgraded (approx 3 weeks ago), it has been a genuine thrill to use!!!!
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I also have a JAM upgraded with 128 Mb. I just totally disagree that Expansys makes some money on selling this as a "NEW" product ... That's why I say it's a classic JAM with a PocketPCTechs upgrade and not a new HTC phone.
I have a Qtek S100 with 64Mb already. Can I upgrade this one or do I have to buy a new one ?
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I have a Qtek S100 with 64Mb already. Can I upgrade this one or do I have to buy a new one ?
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no you can get your's upgraded.
My JAM served me perfectly for a almost a year and now it's time to move on. Just sold it and ordered ETEN M500. I've got a bit tired of iMATE's position in OS upgrades, first with my XDA2 not having 2003 SE and now JAM with no 2005. Also, cripled BT, no voice dialing possibility also was a big factor for me. ETEN is using MS BT stack and does have this feature. Let's see how it performs in person. I am willing to help you guys with getting BT stack from ETEN working on JAM. Let me know if you need anything.
BTW, moderators, is that possible to create another forum here dedicated to ETEN?
Why order the M500 now and not wait a few months for the M600? Please post your findings on the M500 though as I'd love to hear how good / bad it is.
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Why order the M500 now and not wait a few months for the M600? Please post your findings on the M500 though as I'd love to hear how good / bad it is.
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Because in few months my JAM will be older few months and I wouldn't be able to sell it for a good price. M600 doesn't impress me much over M500 - same memory size, same CPU, same look ( I am not big fan of black color either). Only WiFi. But I don't care about it much. If I really need one I have WiFi SD card ( which I maybe used once in 6 month). Price for m500 is good now and Windows 2005 upgrade is officially anonced for it.
My unit should be here on Tuesday. I'll let you know how it goes.
I'd love to yell at you for deserting HTC, but I am afraid you are doing the right thing. Darned...
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saldous said:
Why order the M500 now and not wait a few months for the M600? Please post your findings on the M500 though as I'd love to hear how good / bad it is.
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Because in few months my JAM will be older few months and I wouldn't be able to sell it for a good price. M600 doesn't impress me much over M500 - same memory size, same CPU, same look ( I am not big fan of black color either). Only WiFi. But I don't care about it much. If I really need one I have WiFi SD card ( which I maybe used once in 6 month). Price for m500 is good now and Windows 2005 upgrade is officially anonced for it.
My unit should be here on Tuesday. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Since you don't use WiFi, I think you made a very good move.
Dave
You can always get a really short Sceptre 802.11b Wi-Fi card from MadMonkeyBoy (http://www.dweiniger.com).
ID64... so how's the Eten coming along?
As I read on some reviews, Windows Mobile 5 is not the leap we are all waiting for. Or to be more specific: The leap I am waiting for.
I am happy with my Magician and I have not seen features that would make me switch to WM5 or another device with WM5.
The main thing for me is stability first, features second.
I don't want to be a beta tester for WM5, being an early adopter, life is hard enough ;-)
Regards
Mundl
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ID64... so how's the Eten coming along?
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Not here yet :? Tomorrow
m500??????
m500?
what make is it?
can someone post a link or tell me who make's them.
thanks in advance.
jaykummar, the make is E-TEN. If you do a search in google for E-TEN M500 you'll get lots of info.
Alas, I think we may be asking too much to open an "Eten" thread in an XDA forum...
I'll try other PDA forums. 8)
Hi all,
I have an XDA exec, and am looking to change it for a Wizard. How much difference (if any) is there in the speed of these devices, as I understand the Wizard doesn't use an Intel processor it uses Texas Instruments.
Does this mean having to get different binaries ? or do ARM ones still work ?
How do these devices compare... any thoughts appreciated.
Cheers
Well i had an exec and made the exact same decision as you are thinking of making. I have no regrets believe me. First and foremost the phone part works brilliantly, secondly it seems faster to me than the exec, you dont look like a tit when you answer it and it doesnt weigh a ton.
Things i miss:-
VGA Screen
3g Data speed
Nicer keyboard
Things i dont miss:-
Useless phone
Slow speed
Weighty
Large and hard to use
Any more questions just ask
Chris
chrissyboy6969 said:
Well i had an exec and made the exact same decision as you are thinking of making. I have no regrets believe me. First and foremost the phone part works brilliantly, secondly it seems faster to me than the exec, you dont look like a tit when you answer it and it doesnt weigh a ton.
Things i miss:-
VGA Screen
3g Data speed
Nicer keyboard
Things i dont miss:-
Useless phone
Slow speed
Weighty
Large and hard to use
Any more questions just ask
Chris
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Phew, glad it's working out for you Chris!
I switched too...
I had an exec and now I HAVE A WIZARD... I will never look back. I miss the VGA screen but that's about it.
Cyb
Have both but going to sell my exec.
Again will only miss the beautiful VGA screen.
Would O2 do a straight swap for the wizard (xda mini) or did you guys buy and sell yours privately ?
EDIT: Only within the first 14 days
Anyone wanna swap a XDA exec, bought in october 2005 for a xda mini (wizard) in black.
PM me if interested
Thanks for the responses gents, seems like a unanimous decision all round to me
Just to uphold the concensus ...
I got the Exec first , then an MDA Vario
I must say I agree with all that is said so far , the only downside is the size of the screen and the lack of 3G (no big deal IMO ) But in it's (the vario's) favour , it is a much better PHONE than the Exec , and I do need my device to be able to function as a phone as well as making the tea etc.
I am a bit gutted , as I loved the Exec , and feel sad that the Vario has rendered it almost obsolete (for my needs , at least)
Tried to sell the Exec on Ebay , but had a bit of trouble - and to be honest I was quite pleased , as I don't REALLY want to sell it :? , but can't really justify keeping it either !
I could have written that post!
I have the O2 mini and Exec. Why? Well I got the Exec through my work when upgrading and I got the mini for myself as it looked agreat bit of kit. Have had both for about three weeks.
Guess what is sitting there not getting used - the Exec!!! Sure it has a great screen and the keyboard is a flashback to the Psion 5 but for sheer convenience it has to the the mini - excellent (not fantastic a an actual phone but a great all rounder).
It will be inetresting what will be out this time next year!
Anyone want an Exec?
I have to agree with everything above. I had an Universal for about 6 weeks and loved it, however, I did find it totally unpractical as an everyday phone and ended up diverting calls to an old Nokia, which sort of defeated the object!! I then saw a K-Jam in PC World and it was love at first sight Got a fantastic deal from T-Mob (Vario) and have never looked back. I think the Universal is a great bit of kit but the Wizard does it for me every time
we all know that there will be no wm5 4 magicin nd blueangel has already + qwert keypad and i think it is cheaper than jam ...................it just that bit is big can any body recommend any other solution or tell how well ba performs compared to mini
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
oltp said:
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
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I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
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I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
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Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
Regards, M
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Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
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It seems that MDA Compact 2 is the only Charmer around. If that
s the case, as with probability concept, chances of number of users on Charmer will be naturally smaller.
BTW, what do you mean by T-Mobile is selling the Wizard, not the Charmer?
Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
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Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
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any body not intersted in ba plz i want to exchange my mini with a ba can anybody tell how well wm5 works on ba and 1 more thing does bluetooth on newer pdas like mini stins caz it it is tooooooooo slow in my case (maybe caz of ms stock)
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
kdskamal said:
max414 said:
how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
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ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
kdskamal said:
max414 said:
ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
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all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
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all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
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Yes, it is ard $70-80 dollars expensive than mini. Universal has its own share of problems. But, it is completly different product IMHO. On the other hand, K-jam is not at all mammoth size. It just a bit too think(almost similar width as of universal). If you seek for similar size as that of mini, go in for jamin(imate) or Atom(o2)
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
jb2001 said:
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
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Not really the answer you want, but my philosophy on life is, get the best you can today and not worry about what's out tomorrow... otherwise you'll never get anything because you'll always find that a month or so down the line something better will come out... so to say!
Otherwise, the Zinc does seem impressive... but O2 have already delayed the release once, so who's to say it will actually be out at the end of march anyway
True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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I'll agree with you on that... I used to have a hx4700 myself... it was the VGA aspect that appealed to me, but I felt it was before its time... oh, and slightly big!
I think the Zinc will have v5.2 on it???
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
You may never flash WM6 on a Zinc...
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I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Absolutly agree.... I kept all my CAB files on my SD card..Just incase.. but that was WM03se. Is there a HTC "official" rom update available for wm6...where did the wm6 roms come from?? oh and whats the best...
back to the original question,
I own a TYTN and ive had good test run with the Zinc, even though the Zinc has a faster OS the tytn feels faster and reacts better. The finish of the Zinc is a big cheap looking too.
If i was to buy a new phone today it would be the Tytn again, if i was to wait then it would be kaiser or even one of the new samsungs.
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
and is there a today plugin simliar to the Orange today screen
Problem with O2 is the data charges. They're probably the worst out of all the UK networks!
I'd hate to get a phone like the Zinc or Kaiser and have to constantly monitor my data useage.
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Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
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Excellent choice (in terms of looks - a very stylish design).
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Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
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That's far too big a question. You've got some reading to do - see the wiki
for the mods.. you can delete this message if you want...
i just want people warned specially in asia region that o2 zinc is not that good ..
although better processor ( but you will not see the difference compare to HTC hermes ),camera and o2 integrated software..
THere are many other choices on O2 products... Atom exec, atom life..etc..
Just not this is O2 Zinc is not worth recommending....
or im strongly recommending HTC HERMES (Dopod 838 pro, Softbank, or the HTC Tytn if available) if your fun of slide keyboard...
I promised you this will be a great help on you...
Trust me...
I just want you to be happy like me now..