2 Megapixel Camera!? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

HTC Universal "was" initially sold as having a 1.3M camera!
As it is also written in the backside of all units.
However, newest ROMs allow to configure for taking 2M pictures!
Taken pictures, really have a 2M format (1600x1280).
Someone knows, if:
- Is it really 2M or it is interpolated?
- Was the camera sensor HW prepared for 2M, since the beginning?

interpolated

rather extrapolated...

interpolated
it IS interpolated at 2mp

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2.0 Mega Pixels ????

Hi all,
greeting from barcelona
I can not take any picture more than 0,5MB in the 2M (1600x1200) mode with my T-Mobile Wing.
do you know friends how can I setup the T-Mobile Wing to take a 2MB picture ??
tons of thanks
torrellesbcn
2 Megapixels does not mean that it will be a 2 megabyte photo. Also the format that the camera takes pictures in is compressed. That's why there's a difference...
A "2 megapixel" camera actually has 1.92x10^6 pixels (1600 * 1200) or 1.92 megapixels which means that the photo has nearly 2 million pixels in it. It is no indication of size. Most of the photos that come from a 2mp camera are ~500kb depending on light adjustments made by the camera.

Nokia live event @ wpcentral.com

http://www.wpcentral.com/wpcentral-nokia-microsoft-live-blog-new-york-city
Nokia 920 has an LCD screen. Not good.
Wireless charging seems cool though.
Anyone else watching?
Really? LCD screen not good? 1280 x 760 resolution on a 4.5" display (which is more dense than the majority of 1280 displays which are 4.7"+), ClearBlack technology (which should mean deep blacks for an LCD, like the One X, possibly even getting deeper than that display), and according to wpcentral the fastest display on a smartphone (which I imagine means fastest response time).
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Really? LCD screen not good? 1280 x 760 resolution on a 4.5" display (which is more dense than the majority of 1280 displays which are 4.7"+), ClearBlack technology (which should mean deep blacks for an LCD, like the One X, possibly even getting deeper than that display), and according to wpcentral the fastest display on a smartphone (which I imagine means fastest response time).
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Yeah I'm kind of disapointed with the camera sensor as I was expecting a higher or equal resolution to the Nokia N8 (12MP) it's just under 9MP. But it's improved camera tech is supposed to make you forget about this.
Sure it records 1080 P video @ 30 FPS but doesn't give you micro sd expansion slot and only 32 gb internal I can fill 32 gb easily with my N8 and that records 720p
Tech details don't seem to be as abundant as with the N8. I can plug any external drive into that and expand the capacity further.
Plus they kind of killed the hype recently by not providing an actual representation of what the camera can do.
djfuego said:
Yeah I'm kind of disapointed with the camera sensor as I was expecting a higher or equal resolution to the Nokia N8 (12MP) it's just under 9MP. But it's improved camera tech is supposed to make you forget about this.
Sure it records 1080 P video @ 30 FPS but doesn't give you micro sd expansion slot and only 32 gb internal I can fill 32 gb easily with my N8 and that records 720p
Tech details don't seem to be as abundant as with the N8. I can plug any external drive into that and expand the capacity further.
Plus they kind of killed the hype recently by not providing an actual representation of what the camera can do.
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I do photography as a hobby. I've owned 2 DSLRs and a bunch of other sorts of cameras (point and shoot mainly) and I'd like to say one thing: Megapixels DO NOT determine photo quality. the LENS and IMAGE PROCESSOR do that.
Lets look at an analogy
Let's say you're trying to paint a picture of a natural scenery. You need 1: A good eye that will take in details of the landscape. You need the eye that will be able to contrasts between colors, and pick up all the information such as the leaves, trees, water, etc. etc. If someone has glaucoma, cloudy vision, or is simply blind, they won't be able to take in the scenery. You will also need 2: A good and dexterous hand that will convert what you're seeing into a painting by making skillful brushes of the paintbrush. If you have crappy coordination skills or are unable to correctly translate what you're seeing into proper shapes and curves, you're going to have a crappy picture at the end.
your LENS=eye and the image processor=Hand/Coordination.
Those are the two things that will determine the quality of the picture. Megapixels just determine the size of your canvas. A 3.2 MP camera can deliver better shots than a 12 MP camera!
The 920 is using Carl Zeiss F/2.0 lens and I'm not sure about what image processor it has. As for the lens (you have the N8 so you can attest to this), you will know that CZ makes excellent quality lenses made of pure glass. 90% of lenses I've used in microscopy labs were all CZ. Whats gonna make or break the picture quality is the image processor. I'm not sure which one they're using.
Wait for some test shots to come out, but I have high expectations for Nokia on this phone.
I've already gone into detail on the 920 camera in other threads, but the image sensor size is in fact 1/3", which is larger than the 1/3.2" sensor the iPhone 4S, One X, and Galaxy s3 have. Along with backside illumination and mechanical stabilization, it really is a great smartphone camera and I wouldn't have expected any better for a late 2012 smartphone.

How to check if my phone has cam with 8MP res

hello, i own a inew i6000+ mobile and it said to have a 8mp camera but the site antelife.com has one model of it but they have only the 5mp front facing camera. Originally the phone should have 8mp but this one has 5mp. Just incase i need to return it, before i would like to open the phone and check out all camera specs myself without the need for a software.
As far as i know it is using medtek 6592 chipset with 8 cpu's and 4 cores. Not sure if the camera (front and back) are related to the chipset or processor.
I need to see the curcuit for the camera. So what is it really? a lense, is there a seperate micro processor for the camera as well?
Or is the camera just a peice of small / micro hardware with its own curcuitry and some wires and lense + light?
I know how camera works i just am unsure about the resolution for the camera and i need to check it hardware wise. So if i can take the cam aprt by opening or desoldering it from the board. How is that possble.
The camera module is a separate unit and has nothing to do with the processor.
You may be able to identify the Mega Pixels by Googling the model or part number of the camera module.
Can you turn on the phone? If you can, you should be able to just take a picture and examine the size of the photo.
The easiest way to figure this out is by taking a picture and multiplying the horizontal resolution by the vertical resolution. That will tell you how many megapixels the image is. For example, 3264x2448 resolution = 7.9 MP (7.9 million pixels).
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Camera sensor question

Alright, so it's known that the sensor used in the N6P is the Sony IMX377. However, does anyone know if this sensor is native 16:9? 12.3mp is already pretty damn low for a "flagship" phone now-a-days, so it would kind of suck to have to go down to 9.6mp to shoot in a 16:9 aspect ratio.
I quickly googled the sensor and there are a couple of datasheets, I am no camera lens technical expert but it looks like 12.3MP is 4:3.
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/IS/sensor2/products/imx377.html
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I quickly googled the sensor and there are a couple of datasheets, I am no camera lens technical expert but it looks like 12.3MP is 4:3.
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/IS/sensor2/products/imx377.html
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Damn. I have to say, that's disappointing...
Yeah, it's 9.6mp in 16:9.
I like 4:3 MUCH better for photos, anyway.
Same, 4:3 is better
Me too...
4:3 crop sensors are fsr more common than full frame 16:9 ones. I like the 4:3 shots better anyway
I agree it is very disappointing. I don't like 4:3 photos at all and I'm use to DSLRs with 16:9 photos.
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Alright, so it's known that the sensor used in the N6P is the Sony IMX377. However, does anyone know if this sensor is native 16:9? 12.3mp is already pretty damn low for a "flagship" phone now-a-days, so it would kind of suck to have to go down to 9.6mp to shoot in a 16:9 aspect ratio.
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Are you sure you need all that resolution? Even at 9.6 MP that's more information than could be displayed on a 4K television screen.
Keep in mind that although the IMX377 is not as high resolution sensor as some of the 16 MP and 20 MP sensors seen these days, it is a very large 1/2.3 sensor (large for a phone). So it is actually physically the largest sensor that's been put in any flagship, except the Xperia Zx phones and the great Nokia phones (like the 808, 1020, N8 that have sensors which remain years beyond anyone, even though they are no longer new phones).
So the reason the 6P has "only" 12.3 MP is not because it is a "low" or "small" sensor. It's a very large sensor (again, for a phone). But instead of using the extra size for more pixels, which is a waste for almost all purposes, they use the extra size for larger pixels. This means the images should have better color accuracy (lack of reviews of the phone proving this, notwithstanding), because the larger pixels can catch more light. The overall larger sensor also improves low light performance and noise.
Even the Z5, the only other phone with a 1/2.3 sensors, doesn't use it's full 23 MP to create unnecessarily enormous photos with details no one needs. Instead its default setting to to produce 8 MP images. The extra pixels are used to oversample, using many pixels to composite into one effectively larger pixel, for the advantages of color accuracy and lower noise. This is the "Pureview" technique pioneered by Nokia with the 808 and its huge 1/1.2 sensor, that's actually 41 MP, but defaults to "only" 5 MP final images.
So unless you have a very specialized need for more detail than the already massive amoung of detail of 9.6 MP or 12.3 MP (and assuming you even have a screen capable of displaying more than the 8 MP it takes to fll a 4K screen), the benefits of smaller images, with larger pixels, and a larger 1/2.3 sensor far outweigh pointless extra pixels that people get obsessed with but serves no purpose for most people. Remember, the megapixel race in phones and consumer cameras has always been a mistake, that produces a level of detail people don't need and can't see, that produces unnecessarily large file sizes, and that actually creates problems like reduced color accuracy and increased noise. Physical sensor size matters a lot, megapixels, beyond about 5 MP or 8 MP serve no purpose (unless you're creating billboards or printing wall sized photos).
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One side note, if your current phone is the LG G4, as your signature suggests, I would not expect to get better images out of the 6P. The G4 has arguably the best camera in a current smartphone. It already has a pretty large 1/2.6 sensor. Even though it's pretty high resolution at 16 MP, apparently they've done something to really reduce the amount of noise you'd normally expect from a 16 MP sensor. And it has one very large advantage over the 6P, which is OIS (optical image stabilization). I'd really wait for reviews that compare the G4 camera to the 6P, if this is important to you. At best, I'd expect the 6P to be as good as the G4 (and it may not be), but I'd be surprised if it surpassed the G4 for still images. And without OIS, there's no way videos will be as stable on the 6P, whatever other merits it may have.
The Z5 have a pretty stable camera, one of the best in the market right now and it doesnt have OIS. So lets hope google will arrive with a better algorithm

Camera picture resolution

I am interested in this device, but I have a question about the camera.
Is it possible to change the picture resolution to a 16:9 aspect ratio? And if so, at what megapixel count is it?
To compare: my compact camera has 16 megapixels and in the settings there is a 16:9 aspect ratio available, but at 12 megapixels which is fine.
9.0MP 4000x2250
Thanks. 9 Megapixels is a bit low, but could be sufficient.
Does anyone have experience with shooting images at that resolution/ratio? Do they come out right?
Maybe I'm not an expert, but one thing I know for sure is that the number of megapixels does not determine quality but the size of the photo. Now you figure out what's more important to you. Otherwise, I am very pleased with the photos taken by MI A1, and I'm particularly interested in the fact that the camera has a very decent slow motion (in any case, you get a much better camera than you expect).
I agree, that's why I said it is (only) 'a bit' low, 9 megapixels. I am not a 'more megapixel fan', often it even messes up the picture, because of too many megapixels in a too small sensor (more megapixels could be helpful in some ways, although sensor type, size and quality are much more important).
Still interested in experience with/sample pictures at that resolution, so...

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