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small pop3 problem

I have set up a new pop3 account with my home isp blueyonder. they had some problems the other day with sending email through there smtp server. Now my outbox (in folder view) shows 1 unread message; but if I go to look in the folder it is empty. I do not have "show only last 3 days" checked. if I connect to the account via webmail all looks fine. it appears that something is stuck on my vario 2. other than deleting the account is there any way of sorting this small annoying problem?

This happens when I send/receive via my gmail account on my phone. I'm currently investigating... I've also had an issue where Pocket Outlook doesn't correctly authenticate with the SMTP server (on my own personal address) before trying to send emails, resulting in 550 no unauthorised relaying allowed. Also investigating this, as my POutlook is setup correctly.
Just thought I'd let you know you're not the only one experiencing this issue.

Hi, sorry I can't be of some help to you on your issue, but this pocket outlook is so crap, on my accounts I have it set to automatically connect and check for mail...well if there is mail in my gmail inbox..read or unread..and it connects and checks for mail..it clears out my inbox, it will say I have messages and list the sender and subject in the notification, but the inbox will be empty, then theres the imap issue of not putting sent messages in the sent folder, very aggrivating to not have a decent mail client, I tried Flexmail..it lists gmail as an auto configure...but that's just bs...cause all that does is list the "@gmail.com" not any ports or ssl settings...so I manually configured it..then it spazzes on the password screen and won't continue, not to mention I set it as default one time I installed and it totally jacked up pocket outlook..which led to hard reset number 1.
Sorry to rant off topic, but after reading others woes about pocket outlook, I couldn't stfu

nice (sorry) to see others having problems too! from your replies I am doing well. I also noticed the IMAP problem too, when connecting to ny bluyonder account the webmails deleted items were "trash" and would not be deleted

Hi, sorry I can't be of some help to you on your issue, but this pocket outlook is so crap, on my accounts I have it set to automatically connect and check for mail...well if there is mail in my gmail inbox..read or unread..and it connects and checks for mail..it clears out my inbox, it will say I have messages and list the sender and subject in the notification, but the inbox will be empty
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If it's the disappearing Google Mail emailsyou're talking about then the solution is to set it to retrieve headers and set it to 999KB

athiqueahmed said:
If it's the disappearing Google Mail emailsyou're talking about then the solution is to set it to retrieve headers and set it to 999KB
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Thanks for the info, I'll give that a shot..I had had it set to receive full copy of messages.
And sorry again about your post timbouk.

Problems with Gmail POP3

Hey all,
I've been having some problems with POP3 and gmail on my TyTN/8525. That problem being: it doesn't work anymore. It worked great for about a week, then just stopped working for no apparent reason. I didn't change any of my gmail settings during this time.
After it stopped working, I randomly got 5 of the 100+ e-mails that I was suppsoed to get. Gmail is receiving them fine and I can see them when I login to gmail, they just don't get downloaded when my phone pops it. I can send e-mail through gmail's pop fine.
Anyone have a clue what my problem might be?
Thanks,
Todd

tkeebler said:
Hey all,
I've been having some problems with POP3 and gmail on my TyTN/8525. That problem being: it doesn't work anymore. It worked great for about a week, then just stopped working for no apparent reason. I didn't change any of my gmail settings during this time.
After it stopped working, I randomly got 5 of the 100+ e-mails that I was suppsoed to get. Gmail is receiving them fine and I can see them when I login to gmail, they just don't get downloaded when my phone pops it. I can send e-mail through gmail's pop fine.
Anyone have a clue what my problem might be?
Thanks,
Todd
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Which wireless provider?
Have you tried deleting the Gmail account on the TyTn and then re-adding it?
Can you POP3 access it from you'r home computer etc (to make sure it is not a Gmail issue)?
If these do not help post you're setup so we can take a look

I think the problem seems to stem from the fact that Gmail breaks down your messages in groups, like around 300 or so messages at a time. On top of that, Pocket IE doesn't download the full messages by default and, as such, leaves a copy of the messages on the server. I think when this happens, Gmail doesn't prepare the next "group" of messages to send to you. Also, Pocket IE, by default, is set to show only messages from the last 3 days, so even though it may have downloaded a bunch of messages, you'll only see the ones that are 3 days old or less. You'll want to uncheck that option.
Try setting up your account as you normally would in the desktop mail app of your choice, Outlook Express for example. Make sure it isn't set to leave a copy of the messages on the server. If Outlook Express didn't download the first group of messages, make sure to do a manual send and receive. That will hopefully tell Gmail to prepare your next group of messages. Alternate Send/Receives with your phone and Gmail until you get to your most recent messages. Also, try putting recent in front of your user name, IE, "recent:[email protected]" instead of just your user name/e-mail address.

i find with gmail that it stops working every few weeks and i have to go into gmail on my pc and re-check the Get all pop email from now, ( it seems there are too many emails to be sent down )
using the "recent:" prefix before your login in your outlook username should fix this.
see
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47948

need a better email app

the gmail works fine for the main email
but when connecting to secondary accounts the default app sucks WM was much better!!

Try K9...
K9 is a better POP3/IMAP client now available from the marketplace.

still can't select multiple emails to delete, or simply empty the trashcan.
2 absolutely essentials that are pissing me off.

I just want to know if anyone has successfully gotten their Hotmail to work with the email client and how. This is really getting on my nerves.

Reeg said:
I just want to know if anyone has successfully gotten their Hotmail to work with the email client and how. This is really getting on my nerves.
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Unless you have Hotmail Plus it won't work.

Yes, I too would like to get hotmail working. Does anyone know of any new advances with getting it to work on the G1? I have hotmail plus and it still doesn't work. It always has a connection error and or it downloads about 15 of my oldest messages and then has a connection error?

maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program

let me continue...
message saved as drafts remain in the drafts folder even after send the email out. connection errors galore. i've had messages will sit in the outbox for over 30 mins even though i have a connection and i can download new messages. can you even create folders for pop3? it is just crap, crap and more crap. google should be embarrassed.

aad4321 said:
OMG the email app sucks sooooo bad. like REALLY bad. No notifications, no auto update, always has to load mailbox. Bad layout, hard to tell what was read and what was not, wont foward a message properly untill the entire message has been downloaded to the phone... i can go on....
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let me continue...
message saved as drafts remain in the drafts folder even after send the email out. connection errors galore. i've had messages will sit in the outbox for over 30 mins even though i have a connection and i can download new messages. can you even create folders for pop3? it is just crap, crap and more crap. google should be embarrassed.
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I think both of you have issues not related to the G1. They sound like it is a user issue. I get notifications, I had to check them on, It autoupdates (I choose 1 hour) The layout seems fine. I know what has been read and what has not. You really can't forward a message until you have read the entire message. That would be like me quoting your post before it posted to the forum. Gmail and Outlook both save my messages as drafts, if I go back to that message and send it, it is still saved in the draft folder. However Gmail takes it a step further and saves my messages as drafts every 5 minutes until I sent it or save it for good. Connection errors are because of the network, and Can also cause the messages staying in your outbox. In fact with POP3 messages can act weird even if it has nothing to do with the client. POP3 can't create folders it just downloads the actual message. You need IMAP which is a lot better and has a lot more options. I think that would help most your problems. And I would check to make sure that your servers are receiving the correct information along with checking your settings for the correct information also.

Please report bugs!
If you've found bugs in K-9, please report them to us at http://code.google.com/p/k9mail .
The code was originally based on the built-in android Mail application, but we're making pretty quick progress on bugs and features considering that we just stepped into this codebase.

i think you are basing your post on your gmail mail, i am refering to pop3 accounts in particular. i don't use gmail, but it seems that people are saying that it works for the most part.
i got notifications the first couple of days for my pop3 email, then it stopped working and unselecting and resetting the notification does not turn it back on. i believe this is a known issue.
in my desktop outlook, or pocket outlook and also thunderbird, when a message is in my drafts folder and i eventually send that message out, it is moved from my drafts to the sent folder. the message is sent, it is no longer a draft.
why wouldn't i be allowed to create folders for pop3 email? imap just auto creates the directory structure you have on your mail server.
yes, i do know that connection errors are due to connection errors, but when messages sit in my outbox, while i send test messages to myself and i can receive them, that is not due to my phone network errors.
i will go and log things i see...i hope to see an improvement.
thanks

I agree that the email client is the worst part of this phone
I use POP3 but I hear people complaining the same way about IMAP.
How about something simple e.g. number of bloody messages coming in.
"Load more messages"
What the hell does that mean ? When has there EVER been a load more messages prompt in an email program. I've been using email since back in the days of Pine and I always have a sense of how many messages are in my inbox. Apparently not for the G1.
No easy way to sort messages - and the connection errors just go without saying.
Nick

totally agree about the "load more messages".....why not give you an option to pick how many it loads by default.?..... senseless

Henchman said:
maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program
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Don't need to hack it, gmail will push anything you want (well, most anything...)
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Henchman said:
maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program
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This works because of the software gmail uses... not the software on your phone.
Push is a server side implication, while Pull is client side. So if you find a way to Pull email as well as gmail can push than you are on to something.

At least all of you are lucky enough to get your pop3 email setup. It won't even accecpt mine. I have Mediacom (mail.mchsi.com) and it won't even set my 2 mediacom email accounts up. Just says server connection error. My AT&T Tilt never had a problem setting these accounts up. Definately need something new for a pop3 email client. K-9 does the same thing as the default email client.
Shaggy

Shagman68 said:
At least all of you are lucky enough to get your pop3 email setup. It won't even accecpt mine. I have Mediacom (mail.mchsi.com) and it won't even set my 2 mediacom email accounts up. Just says server connection error. My AT&T Tilt never had a problem setting these accounts up. Definately need something new for a pop3 email client. K-9 does the same thing as the default email client.
Shaggy
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are you using the correct ports?

I got it to work. I never had to use SSL before. Not even in Outlook for this account or on my WM6.1. But setting the G1 to SSL mail sever did the trick. Now I'm just disgusted with how it handles mail, slow, does not display stuff, won't delete, incorrect un-read messages, read messages mark themselves unread everytime it checks the mail. I hope RC31 brings relief to these and other mail troubles (too many to remember).
Shaggy

It has been perfect for my mail, are you using pop3?

this has been my main complaint from day one.
Worst email app ever.

Googlemail ( resolved)

Can someone please give me some simple instructions on how to set up googlemail push. I have googlemail set up and email frequency box is set at 5 minutes, it gives no option for push. I have not found the option to sync contacts etc. Maybe I am having another senior moment!! Thank you.

Check out the beta section on google sync website -That should give you the info you need. I have not got it to work yet though.

Belynda said:
Can someone please give me some simple instructions on how to set up googlemail push. I have googlemail set up and email frequency box is set at 5 minutes, it gives no option for push. I have not found the option to sync contacts etc. Maybe I am having another senior moment!! Thank you.
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if you create an new email account, don't select the gmail option. You need to create an active sync (exchange) connection... then you have push mail. instructions are indeed on the google sync beta page....

Many thanks, I will head over there now

in activesync app, type your gmail email and password, server is m.google.com ., go thru options for cal, contacts, and email, frequency, and peak times.

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in activesync app, type your gmail email and password, server is m.google.com ., go thru options for cal, contacts, and email, frequency, and peak times.
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Thank you
Now got the phone to push, new problem is that the notification sound does not work with it at present, could this have anything to do with still having the ordinary googlemail on the phone?? Do I need to remove it????

Getting in a mess here I deleted the original googlemail, now I have none.

Belynda said:
Thank you
Now got the phone to push, new problem is that the notification sound does not work with it at present, could this have anything to do with still having the ordinary googlemail on the phone?? Do I need to remove it????
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dont think so. I prefer using activesync for google contacts and calendar, and setting up gmail but without push in the email inbox. You should get email noises, no matter if both are there. Go to home screen, settings tab, menu, all settings, sounds and notifications, tab sounds, scroll to new email and check options are ticked as needed.

I can't get the push to work despite having hard reset the phone a couple of times. ( now got to get my music and photo's back on)
Contacts not so bad as they will sync with myphone.
I think I am going to have to go back to normal google syncing every 5 minutes. unless someone has another solution.
Thanks for your help

it may be your network not allowing it. make sure proxy is off in connections (settings, all settings, connections, connections, manage , edit, proxy)

gavinfabl said:
it may be your network not allowing it. make sure proxy is off in connections (settings, all settings, connections, connections, manage , edit, proxy)
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Thanks again,
Proxy is off.
Network O2 , I have had push email with Hero and O2.

I don't know what happened or that I did anything but push has decided to suddenly work!!!
Thanks for all your help.

Belynda said:
I don't know what happened or that I did anything but push has decided to suddenly work!!!
Thanks for all your help.
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Can you maybe post a small howto on the setup (srver and client site)?
I think that this would help a lot of users who would like to have this!

If I use GMail, but use my own domain instead of @gmail.com, can I still do Push Email?

jackhappy said:
If I use GMail, but use my own domain instead of @gmail.com, can I still do Push Email?
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Your provider will need to support this.
It's NOT a normal thing they do.
Only "free" push providers that I know of are Gmail and Hotmail (live)

htc-hd2 said:
Can you maybe post a small howto on the setup (srver and client site)?
I think that this would help a lot of users who would like to have this!
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Sure!
This is what worked for me after lots of attempts.
I deleted the original IMAP googlemail account
Iwent to activesync
Put in my googlemail address ie [email protected]
Password xxxxxxx ignore tha fact that it then adds extra digits.
Save password
leave domain name blank
username will come up as santa, this needs changing to [email protected]
edit server will come up and this is m.google.com
Choose the data you want to sync
Choose schedule as items arrive
The forst sync I had to press send and receive thereafter it worked.
What was confusing me before was the fact that I had the phone charging in the computer as I set up, it would not sync until I unplugged it. After unplugging it only pushed new mail not the mail already on the server.
I hope this makes some sense I am very new to this.

Ok.. Looks easy. Did you set anything in your gmail account on the server?
Also. I'm not sure if thats your true e-mail address, but if so, and if you do not like spam, you better remove it from your post!
Lot's of spam bots WILL get your e-mail address, and use it for sending spam to you!

Ok I managed to get it working after a bit, but syncing still seems slow. Also when I send a message from the phone it shows up in my mail client inbox anyway to stop this happening.

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Ok.. Looks easy. Did you set anything in your gmail account on the server?
Also. I'm not sure if thats your true e-mail address, but if so, and if you do not like spam, you better remove it from your post!
Lot's of spam bots WILL get your e-mail address, and use it for sending spam to you!
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No not my real email address it is of course santa's and he does not mind mail!
Did not set anything on server.

did anybody try to send a mail with some attachment to your gmail push account? When i get the mail on my device, i can see the attachment, however, i cannot open it or save it. When i click on the attachment it says downloading... but still cannot open or save it? does it work for you guys?

Dont suppose anyone can help me with my weird email problem!

I have a Nexus One working fine on Orange.
I use it for my Blueyonder email account which is set up just the same as it was on my Hero.
The problem is this:
I get the email notification to say i have new emails, then i go into my emails and the emails are there. Then it starts to refresh my emails and then before my eyes there all disappear! It deletes them before i have chance to read them.
If i then go onto my pc to check my emails there are none there. So its obviously deleting them from the server.
Now i have checked double and triple checked the settings.Its definitely not set to delete from server or even delete when read.
Any help will be appreciated as i dont know what is going on and I'm losing important emails.

I take it you are using the native email client?
Maybe this is not the answer that you are looking for but I use the Gmail App instead of the native Email client. That way I get the benefit of Push without having to refresh.
If you are interested in doing the same then all you have to do is..on your PC:
Gmail > Settings > Accounts and Import > Check mail using POP3: > Add POP3 email account.
Then all blueyonder emails will be pushed to the Gmail App and you can set a label for them as well.

Yes i am. I`m just upset that it doesnt work just like the Hero did. That was spot on..
I`ll try your idea if no one comes up with a solution for me. Cheers.

I agree with Abbsta... you should to add your blueyonder account to gmail and receive all your blueyonder emails in gmail account.
it is much easier and being a google phone it works well with gmail accounts...

I did what you said and its spot on cheers..

Just an update. Spoke to HTC had no idea why it was doing but suggested i use imap instead of pop3.
It worked!