need a better email app - G1 General

the gmail works fine for the main email
but when connecting to secondary accounts the default app sucks WM was much better!!

Try K9...
K9 is a better POP3/IMAP client now available from the marketplace.

still can't select multiple emails to delete, or simply empty the trashcan.
2 absolutely essentials that are pissing me off.

I just want to know if anyone has successfully gotten their Hotmail to work with the email client and how. This is really getting on my nerves.

Reeg said:
I just want to know if anyone has successfully gotten their Hotmail to work with the email client and how. This is really getting on my nerves.
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Unless you have Hotmail Plus it won't work.

Yes, I too would like to get hotmail working. Does anyone know of any new advances with getting it to work on the G1? I have hotmail plus and it still doesn't work. It always has a connection error and or it downloads about 15 of my oldest messages and then has a connection error?

maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program

let me continue...
message saved as drafts remain in the drafts folder even after send the email out. connection errors galore. i've had messages will sit in the outbox for over 30 mins even though i have a connection and i can download new messages. can you even create folders for pop3? it is just crap, crap and more crap. google should be embarrassed.

aad4321 said:
OMG the email app sucks sooooo bad. like REALLY bad. No notifications, no auto update, always has to load mailbox. Bad layout, hard to tell what was read and what was not, wont foward a message properly untill the entire message has been downloaded to the phone... i can go on....
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ultraman69 said:
let me continue...
message saved as drafts remain in the drafts folder even after send the email out. connection errors galore. i've had messages will sit in the outbox for over 30 mins even though i have a connection and i can download new messages. can you even create folders for pop3? it is just crap, crap and more crap. google should be embarrassed.
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I think both of you have issues not related to the G1. They sound like it is a user issue. I get notifications, I had to check them on, It autoupdates (I choose 1 hour) The layout seems fine. I know what has been read and what has not. You really can't forward a message until you have read the entire message. That would be like me quoting your post before it posted to the forum. Gmail and Outlook both save my messages as drafts, if I go back to that message and send it, it is still saved in the draft folder. However Gmail takes it a step further and saves my messages as drafts every 5 minutes until I sent it or save it for good. Connection errors are because of the network, and Can also cause the messages staying in your outbox. In fact with POP3 messages can act weird even if it has nothing to do with the client. POP3 can't create folders it just downloads the actual message. You need IMAP which is a lot better and has a lot more options. I think that would help most your problems. And I would check to make sure that your servers are receiving the correct information along with checking your settings for the correct information also.

Please report bugs!
If you've found bugs in K-9, please report them to us at http://code.google.com/p/k9mail .
The code was originally based on the built-in android Mail application, but we're making pretty quick progress on bugs and features considering that we just stepped into this codebase.

i think you are basing your post on your gmail mail, i am refering to pop3 accounts in particular. i don't use gmail, but it seems that people are saying that it works for the most part.
i got notifications the first couple of days for my pop3 email, then it stopped working and unselecting and resetting the notification does not turn it back on. i believe this is a known issue.
in my desktop outlook, or pocket outlook and also thunderbird, when a message is in my drafts folder and i eventually send that message out, it is moved from my drafts to the sent folder. the message is sent, it is no longer a draft.
why wouldn't i be allowed to create folders for pop3 email? imap just auto creates the directory structure you have on your mail server.
yes, i do know that connection errors are due to connection errors, but when messages sit in my outbox, while i send test messages to myself and i can receive them, that is not due to my phone network errors.
i will go and log things i see...i hope to see an improvement.
thanks

I agree that the email client is the worst part of this phone
I use POP3 but I hear people complaining the same way about IMAP.
How about something simple e.g. number of bloody messages coming in.
"Load more messages"
What the hell does that mean ? When has there EVER been a load more messages prompt in an email program. I've been using email since back in the days of Pine and I always have a sense of how many messages are in my inbox. Apparently not for the G1.
No easy way to sort messages - and the connection errors just go without saying.
Nick

totally agree about the "load more messages".....why not give you an option to pick how many it loads by default.?..... senseless

Henchman said:
maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program
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Don't need to hack it, gmail will push anything you want (well, most anything...)
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Henchman said:
maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program
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This works because of the software gmail uses... not the software on your phone.
Push is a server side implication, while Pull is client side. So if you find a way to Pull email as well as gmail can push than you are on to something.

At least all of you are lucky enough to get your pop3 email setup. It won't even accecpt mine. I have Mediacom (mail.mchsi.com) and it won't even set my 2 mediacom email accounts up. Just says server connection error. My AT&T Tilt never had a problem setting these accounts up. Definately need something new for a pop3 email client. K-9 does the same thing as the default email client.
Shaggy

Shagman68 said:
At least all of you are lucky enough to get your pop3 email setup. It won't even accecpt mine. I have Mediacom (mail.mchsi.com) and it won't even set my 2 mediacom email accounts up. Just says server connection error. My AT&T Tilt never had a problem setting these accounts up. Definately need something new for a pop3 email client. K-9 does the same thing as the default email client.
Shaggy
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are you using the correct ports?

I got it to work. I never had to use SSL before. Not even in Outlook for this account or on my WM6.1. But setting the G1 to SSL mail sever did the trick. Now I'm just disgusted with how it handles mail, slow, does not display stuff, won't delete, incorrect un-read messages, read messages mark themselves unread everytime it checks the mail. I hope RC31 brings relief to these and other mail troubles (too many to remember).
Shaggy

It has been perfect for my mail, are you using pop3?

this has been my main complaint from day one.
Worst email app ever.

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GMail

How can I configure both my Jasjar and my GMail account to keep all my e-mails on my Jasjar everytime it attempts a send and receive? At the moment it just wipes them clear, leaving me up the creek without so much as a paddle.
Vanishing GMAIL
...bizarre - was just about to post the same question. This is very frustrating! You have to be quick to read your mail, as when the device performs another send and receive it wipes ur inbox!
I used to use Gmail with a POP account with ActiveSync Email with Hotmail with Text and with MMS all coexisting simultaneously and have never had the problem you indicated, all my mails remain until I delete them of my own accord.
Sorry I am not much help. I recently stopped syncing my Gmail as it just didnt get used, I now only use it to store my emails that I want to keep for a long long long time and use my hotmail account for every tom **** and harry that wants an email address
I just simply followed the steps on the gmail website to setup and never lost any.
I've just had a little play and it seems that it might have something to do with what happens to the e-mail on the GMail servers once it's been downloaded using POP.
I have been using POP to access my GMail account and I agree with Simon_Darley... it all works fine.
I use Gmail as a spam filter from various email addresses I have.... I copy (autoforward) all mails from all my different email addresses automatically so it filters the spam, and keeps the mails safe for me so I have an archive of all my incoming messages in one place.
I'm happy to compare settings if you want me to help
This has ALWAYS worked for me:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?s=8749ac1eba9a4e574e3b66ec8a97c308&t=70622
BudgieUK said:
I have been using POP to access my GMail account and I agree with Simon_Darley... it all works fine.
I use Gmail as a spam filter from various email addresses I have.... I copy (autoforward) all mails from all my different email addresses automatically so it filters the spam, and keeps the mails safe for me so I have an archive of all my incoming messages in one place.
I'm happy to compare settings if you want me to help
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and yes I do exactly the same as Budgie... forward any other email account to my Gmail...
I've got it sorted. I had to change it to keep all of the e-mails in the inbox once they'd be downloaded using POP; made sense really.
philtech44 said:
This has ALWAYS worked for me:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?s=8749ac1eba9a4e574e3b66ec8a97c308&t=70622
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I have used the settings above and can receive my mail but I can't send GMail, all I get is the following message...
"Unable to connect to the incoming mail server. Verify that the server name is correct then try again to send and receive mail."
Is it possible to send mail for Gmail from the Exec?
Has anyone got Hotmail account settings as this would be very useful too :?:
Any help would be appreciated :?
StellaDel said:
Is it possible to send mail for Gmail from the Exec?
Has anyone got Hotmail account settings as this would be very useful too :?:
Any help would be appreciated :?
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yes if you follow the instructions and configure correctly sending/receiving works perfectly...
Don't you have Pocket MSN ?
Make sure you turn off the setting which deletes mails over 3 days old. This setting seems to be the default. Also have your gmail keep a copy of the messages and not delete them. (You have 2GB on gmail so its not much of a problem.)
You can also send email using gmail, just use the settings they give you (smtp.gmail.com I think?) and make sure you have SSL enabled.
Hello,
i have created a threat in the wizard forum, and now i see you have these problems too.
My wizard delete ALL Mail in Incoming when i send a mail. Whats the Reasen for this? Damn i want to keep my mail!
what worked for me is :
option 3/3
get message headers only
include 999kb of message body
using this setting I can send & receive when I want without losing my mail.
Damn jag_freeman you are the best!!! How do you get this idea??? But it works!!!!!

gmail issue

I use to have gmail working fine, then all of a sudden it stopped working one day. I've since deleted and re-added the account several times now and still nothing. It says it connects, and it takes the time to download all of the headers etc. however nothing shows up in the inbox? Is there a way to browse the system files to view if it's actually downloading the headers at all?
Weird...The exact same thing happened to me. I did what you did...created a new account on the phone and it says downloading headers, but nothing appears in the Inbox. I'm stumped and a little ticked off that since it was working so well, I started to rely on it more than I should.
use smtp rather than imap. works fine
There is no imap feature for google mail, you have to use pop3, which is what I use. Regardless it was working fine before... now it just doesn't work at all.
Welcome to the world of gmail. Now that the dust has settled, people are starting to see that this really is a beta.
My advice would be to wait patiently. There is probably nothing you can do, it's an issue with gmail. I have had all sorts of problems with gmail, especially with pop3. I reckon it will sort itself out soon enough.
Did you double check how much you set it to download from the message (The screen where you pick to download either headers or full messages) and made sure that require ssl and outgoing mailserver requieres authentication are checked?. It sometimes doesn't work for me, but it's cause of my GPRS connection, I have the $6 t-zones manually set up. Sometimes when I'm trying to check it it won't open the connection, but if I go into connections and open the connection manually it works fine. That's not very common place though.
When I used gmail pop3 it always seemed buggy (on the wizard...), my solution was to have gmail forward a copy of all mail to a free mail2web exchange acc't, and it then gets pushed to the phone. Works flawlessly for me, however, deleting messages read in one place won't effect the other, and outgong mail from the wizard will be from your mail2web address (there may be a way to spoecify a diff sending address, not sure...)
I know this is not really the answer to your problem, but It is what I did...
my prob. seemed to be to many msgs
i just changed the pop setting that says"all mail"or "just mail from now on" to just from now on and it seems to be working, before i had 249 headers to display, i also changed storage to my SD
bhang
I also forward my gmail to mail2web, and tried to setup mail2web on my wizard so that the return address was gmail. No love. I called mail2web and was told that none of their plans (free or not) supported this feature :-(
directpush
There is a gentleman on this site who has offered to setup people on an exchange server that he has setup. It's free, but he does take donations. He set it up for me so that the address that shows up when I send or reply from my MDA is my gmail. all I had to do was forward my gmail to the new exchange account. you might be able to find it by searching port88.org
I set the pop settings to email from today on out or w/e and now my gmail is working =/
For me Gmail auto configs. All I have to put in is my gmail account and it sets everything up automatically and I just have to put in my password. Never had a problem.
I set the pop settings to email from today on out or w/e and now my gmail is working =/
i had this problem once before... i had to go into gmail and turn off pop then turn it back on... after that it worked fine....
Anyone else here have their emails sent from the web client show up on the inbox on their device? How do you get rid of that... One suggestion was a filter but the phone doesnt support filters, and I dont want to add 3rd party pop 3 software as I can scroll through text messages etc. with the standard mailing software.

Problems with Gmail POP3

Hey all,
I've been having some problems with POP3 and gmail on my TyTN/8525. That problem being: it doesn't work anymore. It worked great for about a week, then just stopped working for no apparent reason. I didn't change any of my gmail settings during this time.
After it stopped working, I randomly got 5 of the 100+ e-mails that I was suppsoed to get. Gmail is receiving them fine and I can see them when I login to gmail, they just don't get downloaded when my phone pops it. I can send e-mail through gmail's pop fine.
Anyone have a clue what my problem might be?
Thanks,
Todd
tkeebler said:
Hey all,
I've been having some problems with POP3 and gmail on my TyTN/8525. That problem being: it doesn't work anymore. It worked great for about a week, then just stopped working for no apparent reason. I didn't change any of my gmail settings during this time.
After it stopped working, I randomly got 5 of the 100+ e-mails that I was suppsoed to get. Gmail is receiving them fine and I can see them when I login to gmail, they just don't get downloaded when my phone pops it. I can send e-mail through gmail's pop fine.
Anyone have a clue what my problem might be?
Thanks,
Todd
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Which wireless provider?
Have you tried deleting the Gmail account on the TyTn and then re-adding it?
Can you POP3 access it from you'r home computer etc (to make sure it is not a Gmail issue)?
If these do not help post you're setup so we can take a look
I think the problem seems to stem from the fact that Gmail breaks down your messages in groups, like around 300 or so messages at a time. On top of that, Pocket IE doesn't download the full messages by default and, as such, leaves a copy of the messages on the server. I think when this happens, Gmail doesn't prepare the next "group" of messages to send to you. Also, Pocket IE, by default, is set to show only messages from the last 3 days, so even though it may have downloaded a bunch of messages, you'll only see the ones that are 3 days old or less. You'll want to uncheck that option.
Try setting up your account as you normally would in the desktop mail app of your choice, Outlook Express for example. Make sure it isn't set to leave a copy of the messages on the server. If Outlook Express didn't download the first group of messages, make sure to do a manual send and receive. That will hopefully tell Gmail to prepare your next group of messages. Alternate Send/Receives with your phone and Gmail until you get to your most recent messages. Also, try putting recent in front of your user name, IE, "recent:[email protected]" instead of just your user name/e-mail address.
i find with gmail that it stops working every few weeks and i have to go into gmail on my pc and re-check the Get all pop email from now, ( it seems there are too many emails to be sent down )
using the "recent:" prefix before your login in your outlook username should fix this.
see
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=47948

Emails mark as unread goes back to being unread

I configured my work email to work with Nexus One's stock email app. I can download emails from the server, but there's a problem.
In the case of most messages, whenever I mark them as read, they are marked as unread again whenever I update my mail account from the server.
I deleted and configured this account 3-4 times already, but it's always the case.
Any fix?
EDIT:
When I configure it for the firs time, all the emails are unread. There are the ones that I actually open and they won't revert back to being unread. However, the ones that I just marked as read (with the "Mark Read" button while they are selected) revert back to being unread
same thing.
i thought it's something wrong with the email server (i have some live.com and hotmail.com email accounts installed). no problems with the gmail accounts tho.
to solve this annoying problem (if unread then you's keep receiving notifications), i have to open every single emails to actually 'read' them.
i am looking for a better way to solve this.
jarude said:
same thing.
i thought it's something wrong with the email server (i have some live.com and hotmail.com email accounts installed). no problems with the gmail accounts tho.
to solve this annoying problem (if unread then you's keep receiving notifications), i have to open every single emails to actually 'read' them.
i am looking for a better way to solve this.
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This is a bit offtopic, but do you find it slow to fetch messages too? My iPod Touch downloads messages for the same account faster
I have exactly the same problem on my N1..
If anyone knows how to fix, please tell us too. thanks.
p.s. I don't think it's problem at mail server, it should be the email app problem for sure. Because I using pop3. the read/unread status is handle at email client app.
shirato said:
I have exactly the same problem on my N1..
If anyone knows how to fix, please tell us too. thanks.
p.s. I don't think it's problem at mail server, it should be the email app problem for sure. Because I using pop3. the read/unread status is handle at email client app.
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Yep. My iPod Touch downloads the mails from the same server without any issue
I mentioned this before on another thread but I use my main Gmail to poll all my POP3 accounts which are then pushed to the Gmail App labelled. I don't use the Email App at all.

Increase emails in Email program from 25

I use ICS CM9 email (not gmail). Have not found a setting to increase how many emails should be kept in the program. So if I check my emails and have 30 new all the old ones will disappear. There has to be a setting for this? Why can't I have a few hundred emails there?
Would all so like to know this answer please.
Check sync options. And change days to sync from automatic to however long you want messages to show.
hkgrob said:
Check sync options. And change days to sync from automatic to however long you want messages to show.
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There is no "sync options". There is General settings and the email account settings. In email account settings, there is "incoming settings" but no setting for days (for IMAP. it might be if you're using exchange).
My conclusion is that this is not possible to increase from 25 emails for IMAP or POP. Which makes me wonder, how do everybody get by this? Reload older messages all the time? or everybody use K-9?
Android mail programs don't keep email messages.
You should set your mail account for keeping mails
on the server for xx-days before deleting them.
If you open your mailbox on your pc, it will by default
wipe your mails from your server, nd the next time you sync
/check with your phone all older messages wil be deleted
friedje said:
Android mail programs don't keep email messages.
You should set your mail account for keeping mails
on the server for xx-days before deleting them.
If you open your mailbox on your pc, it will by default
wipe your mails from your server, nd the next time you sync
/check with your phone all older messages wil be deleted
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You misunderstand!
Android email program DOES keep email messages stored locally. The ICS Email app keeps 25 emails. When you get new emails it deletes the older ones locally. you can reload them from the server if you have the patience to wait and if you are online.
Is it really only me and REVHE4D in the whole world that are annoyed by this issue?
If I remember correctly, the Samsung email app does have settings for how many emails to store locally.
I have the same issue.. The Samsung ICS email client doesn't work that well for me, it doesn't delete emails properly.
The stock ICS Email app seems to have like no settings. Why don't they just let us use the GApps Gmail client for our own private imap/pop3 servers as well? The interface is slick, its integrated into the widgets/homescreen... It's so stupid that we're unable to add our own personal accounts to it.
No Nick5000, you are not the only one annoyed by this. I am too, especially because I clearly remember that on my old Galaxy S2 when I was running gingerbread, it kept all my emails up to 500. I don't know why they changed it down to 25.

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