http://www.beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam/
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So basically you used software that everyone already knows about and are surprised it worked?
I dont see whats ground breaking here ;p. Its pretty obvious it would work, even with WM5.0 since its just backing up files and restoring them to the place they were when you backed up... which wont be any different if you're using persistant storage or not.
I guess its at least confirmation.
Thanks for killing the hype.
Just kidding. Just glad something worked, when it was common knowledge previously that no backup solution was available for Windows Mobile 5.0.
Sprite Backup and Spb Clone both lock up during the preparation to restore or backup.
Sunnysoft was a surprise to me.
Hehe... I prefer Sunnysoft to Sprite. Have you ever tried getting support from Sprite? They treat you like a total retard. I had issues with Sprite Clone just disconnecting when it got to about 90%. They kept saying "Are you sure your USB cable is connected?" "Have you got all the latest updates from Windows Update?" "Have you turned off power saving?" blah blah blah... all of these questions I had answered in my initial post. I gave up with them in the end and got my money back!
Thnaks BTT.
I had forgotten Sunnysoft even existed.
I found that if you have the backup on your storage card all you need to do is have a copy of bkpmgr.exe on your storage card as well, and replace it in the windows doiectory, after a hard reset and Sunnysoft works. It does not restore email, or contacts, but that's easy enough to replace....thanks
Dave
Thanks bbt it was news to me. and I just picked up a copy.
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Please forgive me if am missing something obvious - but I have tried several searches , but seen no mention of this anywhere - on this forum or anywhere for that matter !
I have had an XDA , XDAii , QTEK S100 & A BSQUARE POWER HANDHELD before getting my Exec
Now on all the aforementioned , I am sure Activesync gave me the option to completely Back up / restore my device
Whereas on the Exec this just isn't available as an option :?
Am I missing something REALLY obvious or what ? Please enlighten me !
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....Am I missing something REALLY obvious or what? ...
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No, you're not missing something. M$ removed the facility from ActiveSync v.4.x.
Thanks for that !
Riggghhhht ! OK then .... :roll:
Who's idea was that ? hope they got a kick up the ass
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The Micro$oft design requirement for all WM5 devices to have so-called "Persistent Storage" (flash memory) removed the threat of memory loss with a dead battery.
It appears the backup function is still within ActiveSync v.4.x, but it functions differently depending upon whether a WM5-device or an earlier is detected. With an earlier device, the backup function is there. However, still no excuse for not providing the function for WM5 devices for when the dreaded hard-reset is (too often) *essential* to overcome Microsoft and third-part bugs.
I'm currently using Sunnysoft's Backup Manager. Works reasonably well, but doesn't perform a complete clear then copy back. Instead puts the backed up files on top of what's there now, so you still have to remove the operator's crud that gets put back by the hard-reset.
I'm apalled by microsoft removing the ability to backup a wm5 device. It just stinks!
Does anyone think/know if its possible to fool activesync into doing a backup?
anyone interested in a petition to microsoft, to restore this functionality?
ActiveSync/WM5/backup problems
I have the same problem, you cannot back-up your files with WM5 and Active Sync 4+!! Also it will not automatically allocate memory as in WM3.
I've just bought WM5 and loaded it on my XDAII, looks like I'll have to go back to WM3. Problem I will have of course is restoring my previous settings. Anyone help!
Anyone thinking of upgrading to WM5, have a serious think first. I wish I had!
Regards
Tony
ActiveSync/WM5/backup problems
Problem solved! Thankfully 02 have a WM3 update on their site which will load over WM5. I was then able to restore my back-up file via ActiveSync 4. So goodbye WM5. I'm back with good old WM3. I think I'll wait until I can back-up via ActiveSync 4+? before I look to load WM5 again.
I've learned my lesson, always have a good think first before you update your software!
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zoidster said:
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No, you're not missing something. M$ removed the facility from ActiveSync v.4.x.
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Thats retarded, what if your phone gets stolen? Will installing ActiveSync 3.8 work?
The best way of backing up in my experience is to sync the device with a PIM such as Outlook. This is because if you backup using activsync, should you need to restore after a ROM upgrade, it oftern doesn't work. You are ok if the file stucture on the device is the same after the upgrade, but if this changes the restore will likely fail!
My guess is this is why MS have pulled this feature.
My advise is to sync with PIM and pull anything else of manually!
Sounds like a workable way of backing up just a few problems:
1 The registry
2 SMS/MMS?
The cemail.vol seems impossible to copy and it looks like the path is hardcoded to the root of the device leaving no SD options or anything.. I was absolutely gutted when I saw no backup option in ASync4.1.
MS really need to get this sorted in their next revision of ASync.
Will installing ActiveSync 3.8 work?
Not with a Windows Mobile 2005 device.. only Async4.x :roll:
Guys I just bought Spb Backup for WM5. Its fantastic. Does everything including texts MMS/Registry bla bla.
Puts everything back just the way it was before a hardreset!
Well worth £11!
Hi guys, I like my phone the way it is at the minute and its taken ages to setup (the handwriting settings and stuff).
Anyway, I need a good backup program that will make an exact copy of my phone on my computer (like Activesync 3 did - how I miss it) so that I can feel free to try new apps without having to worry about them screwing my fone and having to hard reset from scratch.
I tried some kind of Sprite thing once that seemed to pretty much kill my phone so I don't want that again :/ Any ideas?
Hi mike, couple of prev threads here on same topic - inc my comments
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50241
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50302
Cheers dude. This forum moves so fast that I can never remember where threads are, and I never have much luck with the search function :/
Anyway, can SPB copy to PC? It's just that I don't have a memory card (My wizard fried my memory card in under a week and the replacement still hasn't got back from Hong Kong).
I don't trust Sprite after last time and it's too heavy/complex of an app for what I need. Any other ideas?
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Cheers dude. This forum moves so fast that I can never remember where threads are, and I never have much luck with the search function :/
Anyway, can SPB copy to PC? It's just that I don't have a memory card (My wizard fried my memory card in under a week and the replacement still hasn't got back from Hong Kong).
I don't trust Sprite after last time and it's too heavy/complex of an app for what I need. Any other ideas?
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Spb doesn't write directly to PC but a full backup takes less than 16mb. You can copy the exe to pc after it's finished.
sorted. the spb site was unclear. cheers
Sprite backup writes directly to the PC and/or the memory of the phone. So far it has saved my A$$ twice!
Well, my Touch's screen alignment has gotten so bad that I need warranty repair. Of course, it happened 2 months after I got it, and Sprint will only do a exchange within the first 30 days. I did not get the insurance because I am covered for "all risk" on my homeowners insurance (also, I got the stupid insurance, at $7.50 per month, with the last phone and they only gave me a "refurbished" unit).
Anyway, can the Touch be disc imaged/restored just like a PC and what is the best solution ?
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Well, my Touch's screen alignment has gotten so bad that I need warranty repair. Of course, it happened 2 months after I got it, and Sprint will only do a exchange within the first 30 days. I did not get the insurance because I am covered for "all risk" on my homeowners insurance (also, I got the stupid insurance, at $7.50 per month, with the last phone and they only gave me a "refurbished" unit).
Anyway, can the Touch be disc imaged/restored just like a PC and what is the best solution ?
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Sounds like you're referring to a hard reset. This will clear everything on your windows mobile device and restore it to factory default settings.
Warning make sure to back up anything you want to save because this will clear EVERYTHING on the phone.
if you can get into the settings menu under the system tab select Clear Storage and follow the instructions there. If not then hold both the Call and End Call buttons (green and red) then hit the reset button with your stylus under the touch next to the usb port (this is kinda tricky to do). Your screen will go off for a sec then you'll see a white screen with hard reset instructions. At this time you can let go of the Call and End Call buttons and then press the Center/Action button to hard reset or the Camera button to cancel.
If your only issue is the misaligned screen then it sounds like a hardware problem and this probably won't help but it's worth a shot.
Good Luck
~Xen
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Sounds like you're referring to a hard reset. This will clear everything on your windows mobile device and restore it to factory default settings.
Warning make sure to back up anything you want to save because this will clear EVERYTHING on the phone.
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You misunderstood - I know all about a "hard reset" and that is NOT what I am looking for !!
HTC tech support basically said that a hard reset will not fix this. One way or another, I will probably have to send it in to HTC for repair - I already talked to them. The HTC repair depot is in Long Island and the whole process takes 2 to 3 weeks complete turn-around.
Is there a way to disc image EVERYTHING just like cloning a PC ??
SPB Backup (or Sprite Backup)
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You misunderstood - I know all about a "hard reset" and that is NOT what I am looking for !!
HTC tech support basically said that a hard reset will not fix this. One way or another, I will probably have to send it in to HTC for repair - I already talked to them. The HTC repair depot is in Long Island and the whole process takes 2 to 3 weeks complete turn-around.
Is there a way to disc image EVERYTHING just like cloning a PC ??
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OK i get it now. You're just looking for a backup software. There are tons out there, Spb Backup is probably one of the most popular
Thanks guys, like most I have added software programs, have a call history, contacts, etc.
Will either of these essentially "clone" my entire Touch or are these primarily "file backup" utilities.
I will find them and read the blurbs ... but do you know from personal experience ??
This sure looks like what I am looking for - just I don't need 20 licenses.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store...loneLink-TopNav&utm_campaign=CloneLink-TopNav
I have learned that "backup" and "clone" are different - I need clone but maybe in the WM6 world backup will completely restore to a new device.
SPB Backup is definitely the best. As long as you use the same ROM when you get it back (if you never flashed you'll be fine) you can just run the exe it makes and you won't even know the difference. Restores contacts, calendar, software, reg keys, the whole works. Just like a disc image.
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SPB Backup is definitely the best. As long as you use the same ROM when you get it back (if you never flashed you'll be fine) you can just run the exe it makes and you won't even know the difference. Restores contacts, calendar, software, reg keys, the whole works. Just like a disc image.
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What would you use "if" you flashed the ROM - I have not yet.
Thanks for the input - I am currently leaning toward this app which makes the "cloning" software. I emailed their tech people asking about the functionality and am awaiting a reply.
Anyone with Sprite Backup experiences ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=191
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What would you use "if" you flashed the ROM - I have not yet.
Thanks for the input - I am currently leaning toward this app which makes the "cloning" software. I emailed their tech people asking about the functionality and am awaiting a reply.
Anyone with Sprite Backup experiences ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=191
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You would use either that or nothing Ive upgraded ROMs and run a restore sucessfully before, but its a your mileage may very situation
I am DLing Sprite Backup eval and found this, so I will share - it shows a comparison with SPB (obviously biased, but the screenshots are great)
http://www.spritesoftware.com/sprite-backup-free-trial
http://www.spritesoftware.com/comparison-sprite-spb-page1
If ur still lookin, SPB clone is a good one. It' s use to clone company phones so they don't have to install every software and settings on each phones they use. I tried it and it restore everything on my phone. Call logs, sms, settings etc. I cloned my phone for buckup reasons. I accidently clear my storage. I did a hard reset. retore the clone and everything is back. It will clone just the phone memory and storage though. It will not clone your storage card. U can easily copy paste the card contents anyways.
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What would you use "if" you flashed the ROM - I have not yet.
Thanks for the input - I am currently leaning toward this app which makes the "cloning" software. I emailed their tech people asking about the functionality and am awaiting a reply.
Anyone with Sprite Backup experiences ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=191
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I just evaluated this yesterday. Here is what I had problems with:
1. I learned they have a setting to wipe existing data on restore...I only did a one directory restore. Had to hard reset, then restore again.
2. It won't do your Messages. They have a seperate app for that SpriteArchie for $14.99. I use pimbackup after setting up my e-mail accounts.
I think an app like this should restore your e-mail settings and e-mail. I dumped it.
SPB Backup is great - does a complete backup/restore of your phone including the registry and all system/user files.
The problem with restoring after a flash/rom update, is that every version of the O/S will have version specific registry entries and system files that will be overwritten upon backup.
So if you're swapping out your phone for one with the same version of the rom, Spb is "the cat's meow" whereas the only reliable solution after a rom update, is to manually reinstall all of your apps/settings...
anywhereanytime said:
What would you use "if" you flashed the ROM - I have not yet.
Thanks for the input - I am currently leaning toward this app which makes the "cloning" software. I emailed their tech people asking about the functionality and am awaiting a reply.
Anyone with Sprite Backup experiences ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=191
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I'm also wanting to clone my rom. I have a Bell phone and like the way it's setup. I would like to save the my original rom and experiment with new ones, especially when/if the gps and video drivers are released.
Which Backup program can I use since Spb Backup doen't seem to work ?
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Which Backup program can I use since Spb Backup doen't seem to work ?
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I hope it will be SpriteBackup 6.5.2, but i haven't see any positive reply about it yet working on the Touch HD!
SPB Backup works fine. Just set it not to shut down processes before backup.
Thanks
First thanks to Rick , that seems to work . on the other hand I tried Sprite backup 6,2 and that seems to work also.
sprite backup 6.5 works fine
There's no backup program inside the cd like the cd from Touch Pro, right??
Can also confim Sprite Backup works fine. (It's also listed in the working programs thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442663 )
I think Sprite is also good for restoring to different rom versions (after rom upgrade for example) which other backup programs I've tried fail miserably at.
Anyone tried scheduled backups with SpbBackup?
I lost my contacts because SPB wouldnt restore to a different rom version, haven't touched it since!
Sorry to hear that. I'd like to use SpbBackup because AFAIR it is able to restore single registry items (very useful sometimes). Already tried but didnt convince me, took ages to backup the HD and sometimes didnt even start. Sprite runs fine, registry restores can be done but not single item based.
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Sorry to hear that. I'd like to use SpbBackup because AFAIR it is able to restore single registry items (very useful sometimes). Already tried but didnt convince me, took ages to backup the HD and sometimes didnt even start. Sprite runs fine, registry restores can be done but not single item based.
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All comes down to your usage then really
If your hacking the registry that could be quite useful!
I leave the registry alone, except it's absolutely necessary. Wouldn't consider it hacking, but just to give you an idea: my company runs a hidden wifi and they keep the password a secret. I know the network admins well so i asked them to enter the password directly into my device without telling me (they wont, so i didnt even ask). Yesterday the profile suddenly vanished when i was trying to connect. Not a big deal, under normal circumstances. But as i dont know the password i'm unable to recover. Restoring the corresponding registry hive would have saved me. Anyway, i'll show up in the admins room again
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Anyone tried scheduled backups with SpbBackup?
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Yes, works fine.
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Sprite runs fine, registry restores can be done but not single item based.
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I gave up Sprite a few versions ago because that version allowed full restores or nothing, no single file restores. I assume they've fixed it by now, that was useless! But I've restored Contacts across ROM versions and across different machines with SPBBackup many times. Perhaps I'm a bit paranoid, but I have PIMBackup scheduled daily too, just in case...
After speaking with a friend about a biweekly hard reset "schedule," I've decided to research the eversopopular application from SPB Software, which is their backup application, SPB Backup.
I've heard many good things about it, in terms of reliability, consistency, and the easy to use interface.
Now, having said all of that... are there programs that allow for a COMPLETE SYSTEM BACKUP & RESTORE? As in... all of the modifications, applications, registry, etc. I have now are SAVED, BACKED UP, and capable of being restored onto my device without consequence.
Is SPB Backup the ideal program for this? Please, feel free to offer your suggestions below... thank you in advance.
And you had to open 3 threads with same question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668922
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And you had to open 3 threads with same question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668921
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668922
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And you had to track each one of them down like a creepy troll coming out from under his bridge.
Did you notice each post was in the GENERAL SECTION of said forums?
Thanks for being unproductive by pointing out the obvious.
Smart ass.
lol Trolling
Don't know about SPB but Sprite back up has saved me a couple of times, only downside i can say is that if you have a moved start menu items around once you restore you'll get the custom links you've made plus the once that came stock with the rom.
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lol Trolling
Don't know about SPB but Sprite back up has saved me a couple of times, only downside i can say is that if you have a moved start menu items around once you restore you'll get the custom links you've made plus the once that came stock with the rom.
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Thank you for the feedback. At this point... anything is helpful.
I'm just trying to do a little research in the meantime.
I'm probably going to buy SKTools, alongside SPB Backup... then again, Sprite does have a more "up-to-date" software... more likely to be updated.
SPB Backup is the best one available
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SPB Backup is the best one available
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Yeah, I figured that out last night...
After much discussion and consideration, I finally caved and purchased SPB Backup.
It works really, really well. Quite simple too.
Sprite maybe good, but I certainly can't complain about the user-friendly interface that SPB Backup has... even a complete moron could perform a backup.
Sprite BackUp
Reignzone said:
Yeah, I figured that out last night...
After much discussion and consideration, I finally caved and purchased SPB Backup.
It works really, really well. Quite simple too.
Sprite maybe good, but I certainly can't complain about the user-friendly interface that SPB Backup has... even a complete moron could perform a backup.
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It's Sprite BackUp for me, backs up phone & SD card it has saved me many times over the years & I'm a computer dummy