XDA MINI pro - Skype-Will it real work. Skype min req 400mhz - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

According to Skype the Minimum spec for skype to work with a pocket PC is 400mhz.
So it makes my think. Will it realy work well if it does work? I mean skype on there website say :
in order to use Skype for Pocket PC, your handheld must meet the following minimum system requirements:
* Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC
* 400 MHz processor
* WiFi-enabled
The XDA Mini pro is :
- Operating system Pocket PC " OK "
- Main processor type Texas Instrument OMAP 850 processor " Mmm"
- Main processor speed 195 MHz " I Dont think so , Well below half speed"
- RAM 64 MB
Ect..
You know what am thinking. It make me think are they meaning to do this so they can sell, make money and then later get one out at the orignal or faster processor.
Any advise or better confermation of skype actually working on the mini Pro would clear my mind and i would not think twice about getting it.
If it works with the processor being a fast bus speed or core speed or something to then runs Skypeat a usable level, Am definatly getting one !!
what you think or shall we just wait a few more days for someone to actully try skype on it. " I think al wait"

Yes it works, see: http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/archive/2005/09/22/472831.aspx#473362
and
http://blogs.technet.com/windowsmobile4partners/archive/2005/09/24/411507.aspx

Thanks for the reply !!
According to the sites you have posed. i feel confident in buying one now, for skype !
even if not for skype. i would get one for sat nav and everything else.
Best all in one gadget i have came across!!!
Thanks again !

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Question to owners of the qtek9100

Hello,
I'm planning to buy a new pocket pc, my choice would be the qtek9100 or the qtek2020i. I've spend a lot of time reading and comparing, and need to know some information from the people who own a qtek9100.
1) Is the qtek9100 able to playback mp3 and run tomtom5 at the same time? I'm asking this because of the omap 850 (ti) cpu and the 64 mb internal memory, I know the omap has a different architecture then the xscale (intel) cpu and can not be compared butt when I use the device in my car I want it to be able to playback mp3 and show navigation at the same time.
3) Is it possible to use skype? Because the minimum requirments of skype is based on 400mhz intel cpu, I don't know how much the omap scores on the intel mhz scale.
2) Is it possible to playback video, without dropping frames?
I have serious doubts about the performace of the 9100 for the things I want to use the device. Any comments from owners would be welcome.
Does anyone know if its possible to put wm5 on qtek2020i? I tought I had read that wm5 is universal and works on any pda, just a matter of drivers.
Greetz
Robin

Skype version for PPC

For Skype user, which version did you put on magician? Low CPU version, or the normal one?
Thx.
Regards,
Arto.
I used the normal one not the low cpu version - with the most recent build the performance is great over wifi on the magician . I can walk around with the headset and talk . I can't get bluetooth to work yet on pocket skype.
I have my PDA running at 585 with pocket hack............ but even at 416 I get no break up at my end of the telephone coversation or from the other party I am speaking too.
din get a word of what u had jus typed
guys i need to install skype on my phone but how do i do it??n please help me oput in english, i.e. language spoken by people who dont own an o2 mini
thanks
I noticed skype gets sluggish in my mini if I use it continuously. However, when I use the low CPU version, I get better performance. YMMV.

Skype on Prophet (818 Pro)

Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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I overclocked my Dopod 818 pro to 276 Mhz and Skype works like magic without hassles
Cheers!
don't overclock for too long. The most feasible setting that is observed is 240MHz. Your battery wont die on your all at once and skype (low CPU) will work perfect
Be careful not to fry its motherboard!
Prophet and Skype
The only way to use skype on the prophet is too overclock...I have had success at above 216mhz
Recently I attempted Skype (at 228mhz) on the local GPRS/EGDE network ...I was able to dial/connect and receive the voice from the person I called but they were unable to hear my voice.
Anyone get Skype fully functional on a high speed network?
Prophet and Skype
The only way to use skype on the prophet is too overclock...I have had success at above 216mhz
Recently I attempted Skype (at 228mhz) on the local GPRS/EGDE network ...I was able to dial/connect and receive the voice from the person I called but they were unable to hear my voice.
Anyone get Skype fully functional on a high speed network?
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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is ok, I'm using now..I'm not turnup CPU is ok!!
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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is ok, I'm using now..I'm not turnup CPU is ok!!
Skype rear speaker / headset
Has anyone figured out how to use skype 2.0 Low CPU with a BT headset, or at least via the regular telephone speaker?
Tom
use Skype Low CPU or HighCPU for Prophet?
hi guys,
WHich Skype version is recommended?
I tried the Low-CPU version since its meant for 312MHz PPC versions
But...I can barely hear the other party. The voice seems badly distorted.
I then switched to the High-CPU version and I can hear the other part lt least.
Anyone had similar experience as above?
Cheers
FY
gunggu said:
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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I overclocked my Dopod 818 pro to 276 Mhz and Skype works like magic without hassles
Cheers!
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This is so amazing....I can only overclock mine to the max of 263MHz anything more it will go bonkers Immediately.
How u manage to push it to 276MHz....any pointers?
Cheers
FY
I was able to get the original Skype that came with my Jamin working. The program is installed on a Sandisk 2gb Ultra SD card and I overclocked the processor to 240mhz.
What is more interesting than Skype is a service called SIPDiscount http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html . Go to that site and sign up for 10 euros, or you can use it free for 1 minute at a time to test it.
You can run the SIP service on a program called SJPhone for PPC http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html download the 2003SE version for pocket pc. They work great together and you can even call out to a US land line for free! No overclocking is neccessary because it is much lighter than Skype.
I've attached a text file that explains how to set up SJPhone to work with SIPDiscount. These directions work for the normal PC computer version of SJPhone also.
Have fun :lol:
P.S. You should always use a good headset with microphone for the best sound quality, without a headset there is usually an echo.
on my JAMin with SKYPE 2.00 Higher CPU one, the other person's sound comes out of the SPEAKER PHONE, is that normal or can I somehow switch to regular earpiece
I have a JAMin overclocked to 240, using Skype latest version low cpu, and over Wifi I have a decent, usable sound quality. I haven't tried it over Gprs/Edge.
Re: use Skype Low CPU or HighCPU for Prophet?
I was using Low-CPU (312MHz) version, I can hardly hear other party also. I will try to over-clock and see if it works or not. Or should we use High CPU version? Can anybody provide us the correct version and procedures in a more systematic way?
fychan said:
hi guys,
WHich Skype version is recommended?
I tried the Low-CPU version since its meant for 312MHz PPC versions
But...I can barely hear the other party. The voice seems badly distorted.
I then switched to the High-CPU version and I can hear the other part lt least.
Anyone had similar experience as above?
Cheers
FY
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I don't overclock my S200, but it's running Skype perfectly. I've downloaded the latest 2.0.0.51 Skype version, installed and started without any problem. I made a voice chat with my friend via Wi-Fi network, he heard me and I heard him clearly.
It's just for people who want to buy Prophet but afraid about Skype not working.
Well, in my Qtek S200 i make a shortcut to overclock the cpu to 240Mhz and run Skype. When i exit skype the cpu clock becames 180Mhz.
I tested in a wifi connection without any problems. With GPRS i haven´t testet yet, but i think GPRS doesn´t have enough upstream to make Skype work properly.
This is my 50 cents!
Regards
GPRS no, Wifi yes
For the people trying Skype over GPRS, read the FAQ before blaming the OMAP processor.
http://support.skype.com/index.php?...base&_j=subcat&_i=12'>Skype+for+Pocket+PC</a>
"Skype for Pocket PC is designed to be used with a WiFi connection. If you are using Skype for Pocket PC with GPRS, you can use instant messaging but the bandwidth does not support calling functionality."
I have no problems with Skype low_cpu over Wifi.
Matterhorn said:
What is more interesting than Skype is a service called SIPDiscount http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html . Go to that site and sign up for 10 euros, or you can use it free for 1 minute at a time to test it.
You can run the SIP service on a program called SJPhone for PPC http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html download the 2003SE version for pocket pc. They work great together and you can even call out to a US land line for free! No overclocking is neccessary because it is much lighter than Skype.
I am trying this on a Charmer (MDA Compact II) on T Mobile UK I Have followed all the instructions and it says "No active network interface"
Please Help
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Skype for ARM
Hi Guys
Well, first of all, I don't have the S200 yet, I'll get it today or on tuesday. I did some research before ordering it:
When it comes to Skype, there seems to be a lot confusion about how to run it smoothly. The problem seems to be, that Skype is compiled to run on an Intel Xscale processor. Well, as we all know, the S200 has an TI OMAP processor and that one has an ARM architecture. Search on Google a little bit, and you'll find out the differences. A TI OMAP 200MHz Processor is comparable to an Xscale 400-450MHz Processor only that the OMAP uses less power.
Naturally, ARM has a lower CPU frequency, but the benefit of it is, that it is multitasking. Xscale is a straight-forward processor, ARM does many things in parallel. This difference in architecture causes problems if one runs an Xscale Program on an ARM processor, because the program does not delegate the different tasks to the different units on the ARM, but only forwards them to the main ALU. That one, of course is overwhelmed, while the rest of the Processor doesn't know what to do.
Conclusion: Skype is for Xscale --> does not use the OMAP all the way and with all the available features (Sound ALU, WIFI ALU, ...)
What we need is a Skype that is made for the processor architecture of the S200
Search on Google and you'll find the following:
Skype for ARM
Of course it is an old version, I don't exactly know what has changed with skype, but as far as I know the protocol is still the same, so calling should not be a problem.
Anyways, I think I'll try the new Skype version first, and then the old one and will compare it.
You'll hear back from me, of cours I'll be happy if somebody else could try it as well and tell us what he or she experienced

MDA Overclocking - OmapClock vs. XCPUScalar?

Has anyone seen or noted any differences between Omapclock and XCPUSCalar for overclocking the MDA? Obviously XPCU is not free, but I'm curious if anyone has gotten better/different results between them. The newest version, 2.93, claims MDA support.
I just checked the website and it only works with the MDA Compact which is different than the MDA Vario.. so XCPUSCalar does not work with HTC Wizard devices..
MDA Vario is not using an XSCALE processor is it?
XCUScalar
We have no choice but to use Omapclock. Wizard uses TI OMAP processor !! not Intel Xscale.
I'm not arguing, but I'm confused why ARM apps run on the MDA them. Is it an emulation mode, whereas an overclocker has to be direct for the specific CPU?
fbueller said:
I'm not arguing, but I'm confused why ARM apps run on the MDA them. Is it an emulation mode, whereas an overclocker has to be direct for the specific CPU?
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The Texas Instruments OMAP & the Intel Xscale are both ARM based processors.
you are right but changing clock of processor requires cpu specific code. omap does not equal xscale! it is a complete different hardware structure (which is of course able to execute arm-code).
hope this explains why xcpuscalar does not work on omap cpu and why omapclock does not work on xscale cpu.
regards
peter
peter_altherr said:
you are right but changing clock of processor requires cpu specific code. omap does not equal xscale! it is a complete different hardware structure (which is of course able to execute arm-code).
hope this explains why xcpuscalar does not work on omap cpu and why omapclock does not work on xscale cpu.
regards
peter
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Cheers. I do realise that though. I was replying to the previous post asking why ARM apps in general can run on the MDA, by saying that the OMAP & Xscale are both ARM, therefore ARM apps can run on the MDA.
sorry for asking a dumb question but whats the advatange's of over clocking....my Vario runs at 195 tops and I've never seen it run slow....even after playing games and 6hours of mp3 music playing...
if you overclock the speed doesnt that mean the phone gets very hot and may cause internal damange to delicate chips etc?
:?:
If you don't have a problem with the device running slow, then I don't think you need to worry about overclocking.
I use my Wizard for all kinds of media and I find that overclocking it helps performance in that respect.
your lucky, most of us have to overclock to make the thing useable
must be the tmobile crap cos mine takes about 2 minutes to boot up as well :x
well my boot time takes ages cos of spb weather+today plug ins and windows media plug ins....but i can use my device and the only thing that slows it done with me noticing is active sync...
I brought this up.... because the latest XCPUScalar 2007 supports OMAP.
Wondering of anyone has tried it. If i'm not mistaken, i think it has a feature wherein it will step-up and step-down the proc based on load.
http://www.immiersoft.com/index.html
I am using XCPUScalar 3.0 and it is quite good. It is more user friendly than Omapscaler.
It can put cpu meters both on tray or taskbar, so you can see the current speed and tap to make changes.

Cool P660 (Pharos WiFi + 624 Mhz CPU)?

I saw this one on ebay, supposedly it is a 200 mhz P660 upgraded to a 624 Mhz CPU and WiFi enabled. I do note that the detailed description says WLAN: NO.
Anyone know about this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-COOL-P660-P...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:16|39:1|240:1318
From the listing:
NOTE: Main Features
1. Built in WiFi
2. 200MHZ CPU updated to 624MHZ CPU
3. 5 ways buttons(no the Wheel button)
4. Tri-band GSM 900/1800/1900MHZ
6. Can install Android OS
7. Built in GPS,supports iGO Australian Maps
8. include 2GB TF/supports Max 8GB TF memory Card(Cost more 30AU)
General 2G Network GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
Announced 2009, February
Status Available. Released 2009, February
Size Dimensions 108 x 58.3 x 15.7 mm
Weight 122 g
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches
- Handwriting recognition
Ringtones Type Polyphonic, MP3
Customization Download, order now
Vibration Yes
Memory Phonebook Practically unlimited entries and fields, Photocall
Call records Practically unlimited
Card slot microSD (TransFlash),
- 128 MB RAM, 256 MB ROM
- PXA 310, 624 Mhz processor
Data GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots), 32 - 48 kbps
HSCSD No
EDGE No
3G No
WLAN No
Bluetooth Yes, v2.0 with A2DP
Infrared port No
USB Yes, miniUSB
Features OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Instant Messaging
Browser WAP 2.0/xHTML, HTML (PocketIE)
Games Yes, order now
Colors Black
Camera 2 MP, 1600x1200 pixels, video, macro
- Built-in GPS
- Pocket Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF viewer)
- Java MIDP 2.0
- Voice memo
- MP3/AAC player
- Video/audio album
- Built-in handsfree
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1100 mAh
Stand-by Up to 240 h
Talk time Up to 5 h 50 min
This phone is not made by HTC.
larrychen629 said:
This phone is not made by HTC.
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If you take a look at it, it comes from the 3470 (or rather, the P660). I think that they have removed the CPU and replaced it with a faster one.
Those pictures are a P660/P3470, there can be no question.
its a dopod htc for the chinese and japanese (east asian) market
http://dopod.com/pc/product/p660_1.php
but ehm not an upgraded processor and no wifi....
(oh and my simplified chinese is very bad so id ont know what it says)
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1599
avathar behemoth said:
its a dopod htc for the chinese and japanese (east asian) market
http://dopod.com/pc/product/p660_1.php
but ehm not an upgraded processor and no wifi....
(oh and my simplified chinese is very bad so id ont know what it says)
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1599
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I realize that the Dopod 660 is the same as the P3470, and it has the same Specs.
But the Ebay add specifically said that they had upgraded the OMAP to a different CPU, and that WiFi was enabled. I asked the seller about this.
what did the seller say about it?
avathar behemoth said:
what did the seller say about it?
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He said it was "OEM" and that the CPU was indeed fast (presumably no longer the OMAP850), and that WiFi was present. I wasn't interested in buying one, so I didn't ask about the language (English, I guess, the auction was in AU $), warranty, etc.
very strange, so they changed the cpu,.. and the motherboard presumably...so then its a different phone
avathar behemoth said:
very strange, so they changed the cpu,.. and the motherboard presumably...so then its a different phone
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I think they just swapped out the CPU and added drivers for the WiFi. The external form factor and the other specifications are identical to the P660 / P3470.
Either they licensed the design from HTC, or they "borrowed" it. Or maybe HTC is building them for another company - HTC often does that, although it is usually common knowledge when this happens.
euhm they would also have to put in a wifi chip... that is unless ours is disabled... i would love to get a copy of that rom!!
avathar behemoth said:
euhm they would also have to put in a wifi chip... that is unless ours is disabled... i would love to get a copy of that rom!!
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There is a whole thread about enabling WiFi on the HTC Pharos; evidently the OMAP 850 has WiFi built in, but HTC chose not to support WiFi. They have had no luck enabling it in the Pharos. I suspect there is a hardware issue, i.e., there is no connection from the OMAP to an antenna.
stevedebi said:
There is a whole thread about enabling WiFi on the HTC Pharos; evidently the OMAP 850 has WiFi built in, but HTC chose not to support WiFi. They have had no luck enabling it in the Pharos. I suspect there is a hardware issue, i.e., there is no connection from the OMAP to an antenna.
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hehehe i know i started that thread... we didnt succeed in identifying a couple of chips.. so we dont know if there is an actual antenna connection... and we have confirmed that Pharos does not have a bluetooth/wifi in one chip
so if the coolp660 has wifi and ONLY the processor is changed... that would be very significant! then our pharos is "wifi ready" just needs to be enabled!
avathar behemoth said:
hehehe i know i started that thread... we didnt succeed in identifying a couple of chips.. so we dont know if there is an actual antenna connection... and we have confirmed that Pharos does not have a bluetooth/wifi in one chip
so if the coolp660 has wifi and ONLY the processor is changed... that would be very significant! then our pharos is "wifi ready" just needs to be enabled!
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The items are no longer for auction on ebay (the auctions ended, and no more are listed). I'm not entirely sure it wasn't a scam anyway; the item was from Hong Kong, but the listing was in AU $. It seemed funny to me, not to mention that the device was obviously a P3470 case and specification - except for the CPU and WiFi.
This is an awsome Phone!!!!!!
Well for a noob like myself I think it is. This phone is also considered a V990.
It has Windows Mobile 6 Pro / CE os 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2). with a PXA310 @ 624MHZ, 256/128. It's also VERY affordable. I have no clue as to what the OS is compatable to OEM, Cooked, or other OS could replace it. any info on this would be greatly appreciated by far. Thanks in advanced for any info and I hope this phone does alot better than the DAXIAN X999+
of course
yes it has WIFI too
if it does have the PXA processor then its a significantly different phone than the p3470...so much for getting that rom ...
so i've got this phone, it says it has 624mhz cpu and wifi is working
if you want it's rom, pictures or screenshots - just tell me how to do it
Hello:
Has anbybody purchased and got this phone (p660 with wifi, Marvel PXA312 @ 624Mhz) recently? From which supplier?
Thank you!
chinese phone
xmdan said:
Has anbybody purchased and got this phone (p660 with wifi, Marvel PXA312 @ 624Mhz) recently? From which supplier?
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've got it from here http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=2465

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