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OK what are the Specs REALLY

Just looked at mobilefun.co.uk and they have the K-Jam specs as this :-
· Microsoft Windows 2005
· High resolution trans reflective TFT-LCD screen (240 x 320 pixel)
128 MB Flash ROM / 64MB SDRAM
Triband 900/1800/1900 MHz
MMC / SDIO Memory Slot
802.11b Wireless LAN
· Boosts all the lastest communications including integrated WLAN, GPRS and UMITS technology
· Push Email Service
· 1.3 Megapixel CMOS camera & Flash
· Built-In 62 Key QWERTY keyboard
· Radio - WCDMA / GSM / GPRS PDA
Look at the Radio this states 3g rather than Edge .... can someone confirm.

Qtek 9100 specs (confirmed with supplier at smartdevicesdirect.co.uk):
Hardware Specifications:
Operating System -Microsoft Windows Mobile version 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition
Processor - TI OMAP 850
GSM/GPRS Module - Internal antenna, Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900)
WiFi (manufacture option) - IEEE 802.11b, Internal WLAN antenna, 11, 5.5, 2, and 1 Mbps per channel, auto fallback for extended range, ELP mode, Security: WPA authentication – WEP, PSK, EAP-TLS, PEAP, LEAP
Memory - ROM: 128 MB, RAM: 64MB SDRAM
LCD module - 2.8” 240 x 320 pixels. 64K-color TFT Transflective LCD
Sound - Built-n Microphone, Receiver, Dual speaker on both sides, Loud speaker for Hands-Free supported.
Power - Removable and chargeable Lithium ion polymer battery, 1200mAh (TBD). Talk time: 4~5 hours (TBD) Standby time: 200 hours (TBD)
Camera - CMOS 1.3 Mega pixel with fixed lens, video/flash light, Preview Mirror.
Expansions - Mini-SD slot
Connectivity - Infrared IrDA SIR, External antenna connector, 2.5Ø stereo audio jack.
Dimensions - 108 mm (L) x 58 mm (W) x 23.5 mm (T), 150g with battery pack.
Generic software applications - Photo Album with editing picture capability, Camera capture utility, Camcorder, Zip, Polyphonic MIDI Ringtone Engine Intelli Dial, Intelli Pad, Smart Launcher
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My point exactly ,,, these specs don't even mention EDGE !!

Thats because its not EDGE compliant. The HTC Apache is the EDGE compliant version of the Wizard.
The specs I have posted are official as they have been confirmed with the supplier.

ShALLaX said:
Thats because its not EDGE compliant. The HTC Apache is the EDGE compliant version of the Wizard.
The specs I have posted are official as they have been confirmed with the supplier.
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As far as we have heard and seen in the States, the HTC Apache is the CDMA version of the Wizard and has EVDO (and thus not EDGE which runs on GSM). Rumor has it that the Wizard (at least the one that will be released by the US GSM carriers) will have EDGE.
The specs here confirm the EDGE rumor on the Qtek 9100: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4173.html

Oh crap my bad.. sorry, yes the Apache is the CDMA version and apparently the Wizard has EDGE.

Here we go:
http://www.qtek.fi/qtek9100.htm

does anyone know if this will have support for USB 2.0 (the sync port)?

OMAP 850 specs
Well, I got a bit curious and went digging on the TI site for information about the OMAP 850 and found this:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
Based on this I would say that yes, it is possible that the device has 802.11g (The diagram shows a/b/g) and they could very well have Bluetooth 2.0 (Did anyone spot a BRF6300 chip on the device?).
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX

Very unlikely that it will have anything above 802.11b.

In the specs:
CMOS 1.3Mega pixel with fixed lens
Or
CMOS 2.1Mega pixel with macro lens / AF
anyone heard of a unit selling with the 2.1?
Also, I in the specs under MSD:
Blackberry email client (Optional)
I heard of a blackberry client available for the Magician, anyone have it?
-mix

Re: OMAP 850 specs
robinton said:
Based on this I would say that yes, it is possible that the device has 802.11g (The diagram shows a/b/g) and they could very well have Bluetooth 2.0 (Did anyone spot a BRF6300 chip on the device?)
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The diagram only shows peripherals the processor supports... The final call is the sole property of HTC whether to put an a, b, or g. Just like Intel Bulverde supports Wi-Fi internally, Palm Treo 650 (Bulverde 312 MHz) doesn't come with Wi-Fi.

Eten M700 - a better Tytn (with GPS)?

Bored of those "my Tytn has this defect, my Tytn does not do this" threads, lets start a new subject: A better Tytn? Eten M700
In the Internet you can come across the info on a new communicator – E-Ten M700. The announcement is expected in November. And now we have some preliminary info.
The M700 is said to inherit from E-Ten Glofiish X500 the support of GPS and Wi-Fi. The model will be the first in the lineup to have a sliding QWERTY-keyboard.
The communicator is expected to support 3G networks and carry 256 MB of flash ROM onboard. Some sources name smaller memory size – 128 MB.
Source: Mobilnaut.cz
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It is fake ...

No wheel? No OK/Win buttons? No 3G? No front camera? And what's with the vertical D-pad?
Obviously (Assuming it's not a fake) this is a mock up, and specs aren't final, but the only plus I can see for it is GPS, which I'm not bothered about on a non-VGA device anyway. And if you do like the idea of GPS, bluetooth ones are cheap.
Not to say that it doesn't look to be decent, and more device competition is always good for all of us, but unless the (wildly varying) rumoured specs are wrong, it's certainly no all-round Tytn beater.

gogol said:
It is fake ...
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Yes. It looks fake. Keyboard is open, but devce is still in portrait not landscape! But keys asume landscape mode. Mabe this is a shot of a clay model

Possibly not a fake but not real either. Maybe an earliy mock-up and certaibly not anything nearing release.
Notice the keyboard (not just orientation) but that set of blue lines. They are graphically added - the keys are truncated by the lines and not evenly either, you can barely see the top of the F and yet there's lots of space under the R.
In any case this would be an older generation non-3g device with no video calling.
Actually quite like the styling - more lively than HTCs austere offering.
Mike

Seriously - how can anyone not tell the difference between a drawing and a photo when it's as obvious as that? The number of places I've seen this image this week and instead of debate about the device itself, just a load of "OMG ITS FAKE!!!" comments. No, it's not "fake", it's an illustration. I've seen monsters in Quake 2 that I've thought are more real-looking.
Grrr.
Of course it doesn't help when the person posting it (not the case here) claims that it's a photo!

mr_Ray said:
Seriously - how can anyone not tell the difference between a drawing and a photo when it's as obvious as that? The number of places I've seen this image this week and instead of debate about the device itself, just a load of "OMG ITS FAKE!!!" comments. No, it's not "fake", it's an illustration. I've seen monsters in Quake 2 that I've thought are more real-looking.
Grrr.
Of course it doesn't help when the person posting it (not the case here) claims that it's a photo!
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Quite right! Trouble is it's not easy to debate seriously when there is no reliable source of info on specs for possible device. Like debating the shape of a melting jelly.
Mike

M700, its reality guys!!
Hi
This is a new release to Eten range.
E-TEN M700 Specification
Operating System Windows Mobile™ 5.0 software for Pocket PCs
Processor Samsung SC3 2442 400 MHz Processor
Memory 128 MB Flash ROM, 64 MB SDRAM
Display 2.8", 240 x 320, 65,536 colors TFT-LCD
Dimensions(LxWxH) 117.5 x 59 x 19.8 mm
Weight 165g (with battery)
Communications
GSM/EDGE Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
GPRS/EGPRS Class B, Multi-slot Class 10
Bluetooth® v2.0 class 2 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
WiFi® IEEE802.11b/g Certificated
Camera Built-in 2.0 mega pixels CMOS camera, up to 1600 x 1200 resolution
Expansibility MicroSD card slot
Interface/Audio Built-in microphone and speaker, external stereo headset jack
Interface/Data Mini USB Sync, headset jack,
Ergonomic Design
Touch screen for stylus or fingertip, navigation button, power button, 4 quick application buttons,
send/end button, record button, volume control,
Slide out Qwerty Keyboard with 39 keys
Battery
Lithium Polymer rechargeable with 1,530 mAh capacity
Talk time* : 5~7 hours
Standby* : 150~200 hours,
Pocket PC usage* : 10~15 hours
GPS usage* : 5~7 hours
* depend on usage
Software(pre-loaded*)
Windows Mobile™ 5.0 software for Pocket PCs, Microsoft® Office Outlook® Mobile (Calendar,
Contacts, Tasks and Inbox), Picture, Notes, Microsoft® Office Word Mobile, Microsoft® Office
Excel® Mobile, Internet Explorer Mobile, ActiveSync, Calculator, Game (Solitaire, Bubble
Breaker), Voice Recorder, Microsoft® Office PowerPoint® Mobile, MSN® Messenger,
Microsoft® Transcriber, Windows Media® Player 10, Microsoft Reader* (* depends on region)
E-TEN Exclusive
Applications
Phone Tools: Phone Application*, Phone Setting, SIM Toolkit, Speed Dial, Call Filter, Wireless
Modem, Dialer Skin, Add Ringtone, CSD Type, Voice Commander*, Connection Wizard, SMS
Sender, SIM Manager, Skype Receiver Switch (*subject to change by region)
Multimedia Tools: Image Wizard, Image Maker, Multimedia Manager, Camera, Camcorder, FM
Tuner
MMS Message
Utilities: Quick Link, Battery Meter, Zoom SMS, Bluetooth Manager, M-Desk, Scenario, Backup
Utility, Application Recovery, Wireless Manager, Easy Keyboard
GPS Tools: Satellite Data Update, Location SMS, GPS Viewer
Packing List
E-TEN M700, stylus, Mini USB sync cable , AC adapter, headset, leather case, Companion CD,
quick start guide, standard battery.
Accessories
(Optional)
Battery pack, car charger, portable keyboard, Bluetooth® GPS kit, Bluetooth® Headset.
basically its a X500 Glofiish with a QWERTY keyboard.
I think thta it is a different design and i personal welcome change, the current form factor is so common and considering looks it doesnt look as bad as the WIZA 100 aka Cingular 8125.
regards
reo

reo
What is the source of your information?
Mike

the information is all valid, trust me.
i will have 1 in my hands soon, will give you guys more details about it.
reo

There's no UMTS/HSDPA... why are we even talking about this thing.

E-ten m700 foto
hi-quality e-ten m700 fotos

Actual photos? Well, that's not bad for a "fake" device. lol
Anyway, specs-wise it looks to be very similar to the Hermes. While it has GPS going for it, there's no 3G, it's bigger, worse UI, and a gimmicky looking keyboard.
Still, for anyone not bothered by those, the GPS could make it a good device for them.

HI
well it lacks 3G which actually if it did have it would set it apart form any device.
about the keyboard, well i dunno mate but to me i think this an original idea, its something more contemporary and concidering we livin in an age of advanced handheld devices there is very limited changes to the look and feel of them which is kinda wierd. this is the metamorphosis... i hope.
reo

I'm sure the keyboard is of good quality, but I find those glowing lines overpower it, and I just see them more than the keys itself, which is very distracting.
MAybe it's different in person though, I certainly hope so. It'd be a shame to ruin an otherwise good keyboard with some gimmicky glowing lines.

No 3G, in my opinion the screen is to small for the casing. There is no way that this could even possibly rival the Hermes in my opinion.

No 3G ? I will pass.

reo said:
the information is all valid, trust me.
i will have 1 in my hands soon, will give you guys more details about it.
reo
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Where are you getting it?

GPS is a great thing, but keep in mind, that it doesn't make a lot of sense without corresponding application. At this time only car navigation applications are available, for which you don't need an integrated GPS receiver. An external one has even advantages in terms of placing it in your car, so it provides better reception.
There are almost no GPS-based location based services for pedestrians available and even if so, accuracy of conventional GPS is mostly too bad in urban canyons. Without A-GPS you have very little use in the city, also because your battery will run empty quickly.
And for hiking or other outdoor activities I will never take my precious TyTN along with me, but use an old-style Magellan receiver.
I would never swap 3G-capabilites for GPS!

Some pics...
http://www.eten-users.net/index.php?showtopic=5145&st=15

HTC TyTn 400 MHz?

My HTC TyTn (not 8525 version) shows when I run battery status program that it's running at 300 Mhz? I know the Hermes200 is 400 Mhz though. What gives?
In windows system info it shows as the samsung processor. Is battery status program just wrong?

soundbyte said:
My HTC TyTn (not 8525 version) shows when I run battery status program that it's running at 300 Mhz? I know the Hermes200 is 400 Mhz though. What gives?
In windows system info it shows as the samsung processor. Is battery status program just wrong?
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It may be that particular program doesn't have a profile for the newer Samsung processors, so it's interpreting it as a PXA270 at 300Mhz. Check that you have power saving off in settings (and yes, I'm aware that the Samsung chip is not meant to be under or over clocked, but it's possible that some setting is being picked up by the program and giving you the false result)
Other than that, it's possible (but very unlikely) that you have a 300 Mhz preproduction version of the Hermes. I say unlikely because that particular version of the Hermes had only two buttons surrounding the d-pad and used a form factor similar to the Herm100 design.

Is there another program I could use to bench the CPU then? I will have to check those settings. My other friend who has the same phone and is using the same software shows at 400 mhz though so I am not sure.

Wlan for Pharos (Some common features of all OMAP 850 phones)

I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?

Woooooooooo!
Good news.

great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!

wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......

This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.

Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.

That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.

someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.

@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.

Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.

This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.

you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)

up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks

Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi

Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!

Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg

thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover

Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos

avathar behemoth said:
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg

avathar behemoth said:
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg

Getting rom from device? [capacetiv HD2 dual sim clone]

Hi gents,
is it possible to get the original rom from a device like this. And then put it on an other same device?
Multi-touch HD2 dual sim
- CPU MT6516 Duo Core, ARM9 460MHz + 280MHz
- OS WINDOWS MOBILE 6.5
- Memory RAM: 256 MB / ROM: 512 MB
Bulit in 8GB memory
- Screen
4.3 inch WVGA, 480 x 800, Sharp AMOLED / Capasitive Touch Screen
AMOLED = Active Matrix / Organic Light Emitting Diode
- Network
Dual Sim Dual Standby
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
- GPS
Built In SiRF III GPS, Ceramic Antenna
- Connection
Bluetooth 2.0 (with EDR & A2DP)
Wi-Fi : IEEE 802.11 b/g
mini USB 2.0
- Camera
Dual CAM, Back 5.0 mega pixel
Front 0.3 mega pixel
- Misc
G-Sensor + Radio
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Got probs after flex and do not get the original rom from seller yet...
Also wanna cook different language... What kind of kitchen do I need?
Hints?
Greetz

Welcome to forums
Have a deep read on Leo ROM section, you´ll find all you need to install a new ROM, much better than the original one!

Hi orb,
thx for reply. But first need to get a working original rom from a device like mine to get my phone up and running smoothly... Thats the main question... And as this is not an original Leo I do not know how to deal around with this one...
regards

You still should be able to use itsutils's pdocread tool to dump all OS partitions (IMGFS, XIP, if there is also ULDR).
Do you have any link to that phone, or any "name"? It seems very interesting, if they really kept 4.3" screen .

Hi OndraSter,
I'll take a look at the itsutils's pdocread tool. Thx for hint...
Can't post a link - 'cause I'm a new user over here...
But: goto etowalk.com and take a look for hd2 t-mobile multi touch
regards