Related
I've had this problem for some time now and I have no words to describe this symptom ... I know I'm not alone as I know a few other people have the same problem:
The signal bar on Xda II shows ok, green LED still flashes like normal, even my Phone Dashboard showed that I'm connected to my mobile operator with signal strength >90% ... Nothing is suspicious until you start making calls, everything stays at "Dialing ..." and there will be no dialing tone !!! Make another call, same ...
Then you'll use the landline to call yourself on the mobile, it goes to the voice message ... All those time, you were actually not connected to the mobile network! When you realise this, the only remedy is to turn on and off Wireless / Flight Mode.
Now, have you had similar experience ?
I think, somehow the mobile network lost you, and Xda II didn't even notice it therefore did not bother to reconnect as it thought it was still connected. Is this it ? Or anyone has any other theory or solution to this irritating problem ~ which I genuinely have no idea who to blame ?
i think i know what the problem is
:idea: try to download and install this software,
http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaii/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm
and in "gprs settings", disable "gprs always online", and set it to "search gprs on start gprs connection".
that way, you will be connected to your operator as simple gsm phone, not a gprs one.
the mobility managment in this status (imsi attached, instead of combined attached) is more simple to the network, and you won't lose service.
Hope it will solve your problem,
please update...
Tomer
thanks i have downloaded it and installed, and set the "GPRS always on" to false, but the other one was default ticked ("Search GPRS on start GPRS conn").
i will start my observation today and see if the problem reproduce itself.
Chris
did this solve it for you?
Coming into the 8th day with this Tweak installed, with GPRS set to search on GPRS start (not radio start). So far, the network problem has not occured. I would like to give it another 2 to 3 weeks before announcing the problem solved.
However, just one little note, after installing the Tweak ... a day or two I noticed that the BT Icon no longer shows on the main screen task bar even after numerous soft reset. Not sure what causes it.
I am one of those users that is having trouble connecting to GPRS more than once and getting the "unknown reason" problem. Only a soft reset or turn on/off flight mode will fix it. Well I found out what is causing this, at least for my device. I am running Wisbar Advance on mine and is what causing the problem. Once I closed the app, I can connect/disconnect GPRS as I please. I made calls in between also and it still works...
The developer for Wisbar is working on this issue so hopefully he will get this fixed. In the meantime, I have turned off Wisbar..
Hope this is what causing u guys' devices also.
Great info! Just a heads up. I had this problem since I upgraded to the 1.06 ROM however I have never installed Wizbar Advance. The only thing that I could get to fix it was upgrading to the Norwegian 1.11 ROM version or using the 1.10 US Radio stack. Even the Finish 1.11 did not fix the problem.
-Mashie
I have the problem and I'm not using Wisbar. I guess magician_os1.11wwe_bigstorage_6.zip is based on the Finnish ROM?
You can add another application to the list of problem apps (at least this worked for me)
Sygic .mobile contacts seems to mess up GPRS as well.
I've been using the 1.06 WWE rom, and i tried anasky's 1.11 bigstorage rom, and both times, with .mobile contacts installed, i received the "cannot connect for an unknown reason" error, after uninstalling it, GPRS reconnects fine everytime.
Hope this helps some of you.
i changed my sim card to a new one and now i don't get that error. plus i believe that part of that error is the service provider.
hope that helps
I have Qtek 1.11 and same problem too
It is a real pain, I do not have Wisbar, and I can only connect once then need a reset. Any ideas out there?
One cheap solution is to put the phone in flight mode and then go back to reset the GPRS. Not very smooth, but at least better than having to soft reset.
Loboman said:
One cheap solution is to put the phone in flight mode and then go back to reset the GPRS. Not very smooth, but at least better than having to soft reset.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have tried to turn flight modem on/off but i still get the error
"dialed:isplnk1.swip.net. The answering modem has disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings"
Does ne1 know what I can do? so I can use my gprs again. it worked fine just a day ago, and I havent done anythin at all that could cause this problem
I don' t have a magician but a blue angel.
I've got the same problem.
It's the last built of IA Caller ID.
I've make a hard reset with no IA Caller and no problem again.
just double check the settings to make sure that the access point name shows up in the number section of the connection settings, when its not there that can cause the answering modem problems
rgds
j
I have 2 SIM Cards with the same number, one for the QTek 2020, and one for a Motorola mpx200.
If they are both switched on, then my GPRS is disconnected after about 15 minutes, and I can only reconnect by going in and out of flight mode.
If I switch the Motorola off, then I stay connected, and can disconnect
and reconnect properly.
Eddan said:
Loboman said:
One cheap solution is to put the phone in flight mode and then go back to reset the GPRS. Not very smooth, but at least better than having to soft reset.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have tried to turn flight modem on/off but i still get the error
"dialed:isplnk1.swip.net. The answering modem has disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings"
Does ne1 know what I can do? so I can use my gprs again. it worked fine just a day ago, and I havent done anythin at all that could cause this problem
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never had that error message. Only the one hamsup1o was talking about. Is the Norwegian 1.11 Ananskyfied yet? I want to test if the problem is fixed in that one.
For me, I don't think it's any one piece of software. Since I upgraded my Jam last weekend to 1.11, it continually disconnects from GPRS. Soft resets may or may not correct the problem on the first try so a second reset is in order. Trying to turn Flight Mode On/Off is a chore in itself. I may need to tap "Turn Flight Mode On" several times before it finally does it. Even when GPRS is connected it will only last 5 minutes. Then while still connected, going to a different webpage, says that webpage cannot be found. Very freakin' frustrating!! :evil:
So, today at work I backed everything to SD and did a Hard Reset. I then cancelled out of the Operator settings, but allowed the other apps to install and soft reset. I manually added my data settings and connected. Within two minutes I lost my connection. Reset the device and couldn't connect. Reset again and it's fine. It's hit or miss. Restored from backup. Gave a MS Voice Command error so deleted that. Several resets later on the train ride home and it's been fine ever since, for now!
The question is, could this be a T-Mobile problem? I called them yesterday and all they could tell me is that data outages in the Boston area may occur in the evenings due to upgrades. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that I did the ROM upgrade and TMo is acting up. I'm pulling hairs here!!
smfa1965 said:
For me, I don't think it's any one piece of software. Since I upgraded my Jam last weekend to 1.11, it continually disconnects from GPRS. Soft resets may or may not correct the problem on the first try so a second reset is in order. Trying to turn Flight Mode On/Off is a chore in itself. I may need to tap "Turn Flight Mode On" several times before it finally does it. Even when GPRS is connected it will only last 5 minutes. Then while still connected, going to a different webpage, says that webpage cannot be found. Very freakin' frustrating!! :evil:
So, today at work I backed everything to SD and did a Hard Reset. I then cancelled out of the Operator settings, but allowed the other apps to install and soft reset. I manually added my data settings and connected. Within two minutes I lost my connection. Reset the device and couldn't connect. Reset again and it's fine. It's hit or miss. Restored from backup. Gave a MS Voice Command error so deleted that. Several resets later on the train ride home and it's been fine ever since, for now!
The question is, could this be a T-Mobile problem? I called them yesterday and all they could tell me is that data outages in the Boston area may occur in the evenings due to upgrades. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that I did the ROM upgrade and TMo is acting up. I'm pulling hairs here!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the exact same problem with my Jam on T-Mobile (in Colorado) however it seems to have gotten better with the 1.11 ROM. The strange thing is that it does not ever happen with my 6315 on T-Mobile. I have spoken with their customer services serveral times and we have tried a few different things. The last thing we tried was a brand new SIM card to remove that as a posible problem. Since doing that, I can stay connected to GPRS, take calls and it re-connects with out me doing anything and it seems to have helped.
I have not tried to see if there is any change between wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com. Which are you using?
I have the same problem with GPRS and the Cannot connect for an unknown reason. It initially connects fine, but if I disconnect it manually, I cannot reconnect without the soft reset. I started getting this error when I upgraded to 1.11WWE last night. I went back to Version 1.06WWE and the problem was gone so it is defiantely a ROM problem. Imate's Customer "Dis"-Service continues to timeout everytime I go online with them. I am in the process of trying the UK 1.11JAM Rom to see if that makes any difference. I am with T-Mobile USA.
On the Club I-mate forum there are people with this problem as well and one of them is on Cingular!!! So it's not carrier specific.
__________edit
I tried the UK 1.11 ROM and it worked a bit better. There was even a new tab in the GPRS bubble that you could click to disconnect the GPRS rather than holding down the red phone button. But alas, I still got the Cannot Connect for an unknown reason mesage. I'm going back to 1.06 (Thankfully I backed it up) It worked fine. Is anyone having this problem with the Anansky hacked ROM?
Also, why does the UK version come with Skype and the WWE version doesn't?
Could it be due to Activesync?
I too have the GPRS problem, usually it occurs after synchronizing with the PC. The flight mode trick fixes it. I can repeat this behavior and can always fix it, so it remains a nuisance...
Since you can access the internet through Activesync, maybe the OS stays locked in that mode and does not allow for GPRS to be a valid network connection...
Anybody else have similar symptoms?
Mashie, I use internet3.voicestream.com. As you said nothing seems to help.
chinadan, Yes! I had the exact same thing happen to me last night. I've been tinkering with my Jam for the last week trying to get it to work. Last night it was working fine, but then I connected it to my desktop to load PHM Registry and when I disconnected, GPRS started flaking out! Performing a soft reset didn't help.
I've been going back and forth with i-Mate CS, and it's obvious they know there's an issue. They seem to be getting a little testie since I'm basically telling them I'm not an idiot so please get the crap fixed! They had the nerve to send me instructions on how to setup a GPRS Connection on the Jam! :twisted: What nerve!
Anyway, think I'll try loading the worldwide 1.11WWE and see what happens. Anyone have a backup of 1.06 US 850 ROM?
Thanks and cheers!
Well, I went almost 24 hours without a GPRS problem on my JAM yesterday. I didn't get the usual "Cannot connect for an unknown reason" error message. This time I got a message saying that there was a problem with the modem???? I don't know where that one came from... changed my gprs setting to internet2.voicestream.com and it works now....until the next error message.
Screw it. I'm going back to 1.06. The JAM is VERY sluggish now and I can't even get it into flight mode to correct the problem. I guess I'll wait for the patch. (It seemslike we spend most of our time waiting for a patch or an update of some kind. ARGGGHH!)
ALso, I don't know if this was the case with the 1.06 ROM, but I used to have to hold down the red phone button for a few seconds to get the GPRS to disconnect. But with the 1.11UK rom all it takes is for you to click the red phone button and the connection is dropped. Example: If I'm on the Today Screen with GPRS connected, click the red phone button and voila, gprs is disconnected. Is this normal? I don't remember it disconnecting so easily with 1.06.
Also, saw this over on the HoFo: ___________________
New HTC Galaxy and Wizard to replace the Magician.
Got a hirizontal slide out keyboard. Same size as Magician. Black in colour. with 128mb ram, Wifi built in. Same size as Jam. With a 2.1mb camera (undecided maybe 1.2). Just saw the pictures, but it looks awesome. (I think it also had edge).
johnannie said:
Also, saw this over on the HoFo: ___________________
New HTC Galaxy and Wizard to replace the Magician.
Got a hirizontal slide out keyboard. Same size as Magician. Black in colour. with 128mb ram, Wifi built in. Same size as Jam. With a 2.1mb camera (undecided maybe 1.2). Just saw the pictures, but it looks awesome. (I think it also had edge).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any chance you give us a link to those pics? Pleaseeeeeeee :twisted:
Ok, been tinkering around this evening concerning the GPRS connection issues and this is what I have thus far. First, Club IMate has new Operator Settings on their website. One of their techs was kind enough to e-mail it to me this afternoon and checking their website this evening shows T-Mobile ver1.6. Applied those settings and it seemed to do a better job at installing my VPN settings for internet3.voicestream.com. However, when I checked the Connections screen it listed My Isp with my VPN connection and My Work Network was setup for wap.voicestream.com. Ok, nice but I don't use the wap settings. Connecting through IE to wap.yahoo.com resulted in the TMo Wap connection to launch, but not my VPN connection. So I went back into Connection settings and set both Work and Internet to "My ISP". Upon doing this and selecting any website from IE, it wouldn't connect and give me the error "Make sure you have your modem installed blah, blah, blah". If I then press and held on the "G" and tapped connect, it connected just fine.
So that got me thinking about the Registry again and why in the Connection screen for both Internet and Private network, why there was no option for "The Internet", or "My Secure WAP" so forth and so on. When I had my XDA IIs, those where options. So I loaded PHM Registry to the device and went exploring. The first thing I found and deleted was in: \HKLM\Software\HTC\WModem. I deleted the Preset GPRS key. The next thing I found where all the Interent settings I just mentioned in:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Destinations\. There is listed "The Interent" (which I tried to create myself in Connections but it said it already existed) and My Secure Wap plus others that I had made. So for starters I deleted "The Internet" key and reset the device.
Went back into Connections and created a new network called The Internet and added my connection to internet3. I then switched it to only look at The Internet network. Launching IE again and trying to go to wap.yahoo.com. Again, I get the "Unable to Connect: Ensure that your modems are presentand inserted correctly, and no network card present".
So obvioulsy, my edits to the Registry made little difference. So again that got me thinking. Why would their be a WAP connection when I selected T-Mobile VPN during the new cab installation? Because it needs it!
I then went back into the Network Management screen under connections and left it set to The Internet for programs that auto connect to the internet and set it to My Work Network for the private network option. Since doing this I've had no issues when any connection while browsing. If I go to a WAP site it automatically connects to T-Mobile WAP connection. If I then decide to go to a full blown HTTP website, it automatically stops the WAP connection and launches the VPN one. There is no delay when it does this, well, maybe a second! :lol:
My thinking is (and, I'm no programmer or Registry master!) that the problem lies in the Registry settings for IE. Perhaps it runs deeper than that but if one of you Guru's could take a look perhaps we can get this ironed out once and for all. Thanks for listening!
I just got my 3g sim from o2 and have been trying to use it all day. in IE it usually starts off fine but after a few web pages, I just get "Locating..." in the status bar and i cannot get any data transferred without resetting. The exec still thinks it is connected and has a good signal.
The problem isnt confined to IE either, it happens with Msn too.
Has anybody else experienced this? or better still does someone know how to fix this?
Thanks
Allan.
Same has started hapening to me, looks like signal keeps dropping then picking back up. strange :/
I think I may give o2 a phone and see what they have to say about it.
Allan
i have spoken today about this issue to an o2 advisor, a after checking my post code and admiting that i am in the covered area they suggested to try having a look at the signal strength in other areas, and if it the signal will remain weak, that may be the issue with the Headset or the SIM itself.
I didn't see any difference in the 3G signal strength no matter where i go, so that could be the sim.
I just dont want to think that the issue could be in the phone itself :-(((
Hi guys,
ive had my exec for about 2 weeks now. In the last week it has started to randomly loose network signal. It keeps searching till you either soft reset it or turn flight mode on and off. It will find a signal in about 10 seconds after that.
Is this there a 'dont keep loosing signal' setting that im missing?!
Mine does the same thing - annoying as hell! Not worked it out yet.
Are you talking about telephone or GPRS signal ( U or G )
Phone signal
everything! it looses all signal.
I called o2 and they want me to go into an 02 shop for them to have a look at it before they give me a replacement
The are all 'handset trained' apparently.
I also called o2 a week ago stating the same problem, They gave me a refferance number and said they will look into it, But of corse 1 week later they have not called me, So this afternoon i will find the referance number and give them a call.
I will post ther Bollox answer on here tonight
John
Same problem here with a MDA Pro. I ahve noticed that this happens when I am roaming in Germany as well. Very anoying. That and the thing freezing in a call and needing a re-set. This is my second one as the first one the screen portion became loose, happened on the one before as well.
I have the same problem althoughmine will refind the signal after about a minute. It seems to disappear whenever I ask thephoneto do something new (open a program etc).
I finally persauded T-Mobile to exchange mine so I'm getting a new one delivered tomorrow.
I'll let you know if that fixes it!
Andy
My XDA2 used to lose its ability to communicate if I was out of a signal area for more than 15 minutes, but I haven't had it happen yet with the Exec. A soft reset or Flight Mode on/off cycle would fix it.
It is frustrating but didn't happen often.
Well i phoned o2 and they said there was still no answer and that no one else had complainded about this, So i told them of this forum......
As per the last post i have also had this on a 2 and 2i, and i gree if its out of servie for a few mins its seems to give up looking for service until you reset.
mine has done it overnight befor, i looked befor going to bed and it had just the 3 dots flashing where the aerial should be. the next morning it was still the same, quick soft rest and into full service, thats when i first rang o2
John
I've had this on all my XDAs in the past, and seems to continue with the Exec.
Very annoying, but not sure what can be done about it.
Ant
guys,
wait for a rom upgrade from o2, ( with new radio rom)
that should solve the problem.
happens with xda, xda2, skipped xda2-i and xda2-s,
and now it's back.. :roll:
Hi Guys, I have been having this problem for weeks with my MDA Pro. I convinced myself it wasn't the phone and that it was T-Mobiles Network. In desperation last night I spoke to T-Mobile about the problem. They told me it was a faulty phone and that I would have to contact the supplier of the phone and ask them to replace it. I tried to explain others had the problem and that I wasn't happy to have to send my phone off and wait for a replacement. But no avail. So I sat down at home and looked at the settings. I think I might of cured it! Maybe it is a fluke but by clicking the signal meter and going to settings, then changing network selection to manual it has stopped hunting when it loses signal and quickly re-picks it up. HNope this helps others.
Giles.
abarthsmart said:
changing network selection to manual it has stopped hunting when it loses signal and quickly re-picks it up. HNope this helps others.
Giles.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Defenitely...that did it.
I had the same in Holland with KPN: while switched to manual no more problems.
In Romania however, where I also have UMTS, I had to switch it back (or it switched itselve back, after changing SIM card, I don't remember) to AUTO.
There it switches from GPRS to UMTS if UMTS signal is OK.
Huib
Ok, i have the same problem. Have GPRS Always on set in registry and 10 minutes ago, my MDA Pro lost GPRS connection. It trys to reconnect all the time. But no Connection can be build up. After Flight Mode and back, i get a connection immediately. But on start of MSN Messenger, it loses the connection again and does the same loop like before. Only a softreset brings my connection back to live.
Looks like a ROM issue. Maybe GSM or CE.
I am delighted to say that my replacement MDA Pro seems much more stable in the signal department. Although I still loose signal ocaasionally, I no beleive that is due to poor signal area and not the phone...
If you phone isloosing and reconnecting all the time then like mine it is probably faulty! Hopefully the ROM upgrades will sort out the last few issues I'm having!!
I love this phone!!
Same problem with JASJAR
People still have this problem? i'm using radio 1.03.01. When i used the original firmware, the phone part would lock up (Would get the busy - wait 15 seconds and try again, but it would never clear - had to soft reset)
With the 1.03.01 radio, i still get disconnected, but it'll find the signal again after a few retries - which is very bad! I rely on the phone at work, and people can't get through when it's disconnected. I have full signal strength (4 bars) so it's a software/hardware problem.
It looks like maybe it happens more frequently when charging or activesync'ing, than when it's disconnected from usb.
Can anyone confirm having the same problem, and it getting better or FIXED with the new radio firmware? If not, i'm going to have to return it.
Michael
I am using radio version 1.04.02 on the O2 exec, although i use a Vodafone SIM (supplied by work!). Mine suffers from the same problem, mainly at home, which is a very odd signal area for Vodafone. I can go from no signal to full signal to none again, and yes, sometimes it drops completely and needs a soft reset - bingo! full signal again.
Switching the network type from auto to GSM does seem to make the unit a little happier, but i need to use WCDMA when possible, so i leave mine on auto and live with the dropouts!
Lets hope the next rom fixes the problem.
Cheers
Paul
I have the same problem with my XDA and O2. a soft reset nor a full reset have been able to fix the problem. :roll: is the new rom version available as yet?
I have a problem with my HD2.
When trying to use internet, connection is very unstable. Lets say in every 10 minutes, 6 is working great and another 4 there is no internet whatsoever.
Also I noticed that calls are interrupted, sometimes during a call it disconects me few times and also sometimes I need to try to make a call few times as it looks like there was no signal(?).
My old tytnII never had such a problems at the same place (same sim, same network - t-mobile.uk).
Any help would be very appreciated.
ps1. Im using the new 1.61 (Turkish) rom at the moment and the problem still exists.
ps2. Its a bit better when I switch off HSDPA connection.
edit.
Just found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595703
This exacly what is happening to me