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A friend of mine got his first Android phone today and told him to download Google Talk and he was not able to find it. So I searched and had now luck either any one else or am I missing something?
Edit: He found it pre-installed.
Mm yeah I was about to say that Google talk is one of the apps the still comes with the phone, just like YouTube just to come hopefully they start updating it tho
sent from My Evo running MIUI (GB-build)
Just for future reference, use market.android.com/ for apps you can't find or if you have probs d/l'ing on your phone.
HipKat said:
Just for future reference, use market.android.com/ for apps you can't find or if you have probs d/l'ing on your phone.
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Yeah, we know. Not there either. Miztaken1312 was kind enough to post the .apk files in the Captivate forum. I assume they're the same for most devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773272
Hello on android lost i installed the android lost app and android lost jumpstart on my nexus 7 and when i go to androidlost.com andgoto controls it says Waiting for phone to be registered.
thank you
lukas
I think (but am not 100%sure) it requires cell service to control the app via (hidden) SMS messages.
If that is indeed the case, it won't work on wifi-only devices.
You didn't mention whether your unit was a wifi-only or 3g model.
I'm not sure what to recommend as I'm unfamiliar with apps in this space - maybe Plan B ? But for all I know, it might also use the same control channel.
Good luck
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Hello mine is a wifi model but you can use android lost jumpstart just lok on google play
sycho123321 said:
Hello mine is a wifi model but you can use android lost jumpstart just lok on google play
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Thanks!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidlost.jumpstart
It does look like the dev specifically is trying to address wifi-only devices; OTOH the comment in the "what's new" section from the apps market page sounds like the Dev doesn't have a N7 to test...
Making detection of phone state optional since lots of tablets does not have phone capabilities. Hopefully this should make it work on google nexus 7 tablets
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I would try contacting the app dev (reading between the lines, I got the impression you are testing the app rather than having lost the tablet) - he might be eager to have some testers on the N7
good luck
nevermide i foundit
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nevermide i foundit
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I would be interested in hearing what happened.
Was the tablet actually lost or were you just testing the app?
What did you do to resolve the trouble?
Where is it for Nexus 7 2013? Will it be in the factory build? Is it going to be available for download separately from the store?
I find it odd that with all of the push to eliminate fragmentation it's not included.
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Where is it for Nexus 7 2013? Will it be in the factory build? Is it going to be available for download separately from the store?
I find it odd that with all of the push to eliminate fragmentation it's not included.
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Google Experience Launcher was intended to be Nexus 5 specific. It will not be included in official Nexus 7 images.
http://www.lmbtfy.com/?q=Google+experience+launcher+nexus+7
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Blah,blah url. The forum won't let me post links.
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Who cares what google search comes back with? Guessing/speculation/your mom talking about cats. The reason I posted here is because people who tend to know what they're doing come to xda for news/know-how.
Is the missing launcher really a bi-product of optimization and the always listening feature? Or is the GEL launcher going to be available on the store? Maybe you don't know but that doesn't mean that a developer or somebody else doesn't know.
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Who cares what google search comes back with? Guessing/speculation/your mom talking about cats. The reason I posted here is because people who tend to know what they're doing come to xda for news/know-how.
Is the missing launcher really a bi-product of optimization and the always listening feature? Or is the GEL launcher going to be available on the store? Maybe you don't know but that doesn't mean that a developer or somebody else doesn't know.
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Yeah. God forbid you should do a little research on your own. That's why everyone comes here, to spoon feed you information so you don't have to look it up yourself.
BTW: It was bing search. I thought it was quite witty to use bing to search for information about Google. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought I was.
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Yeah. God forbid you should do a little research on your own. That's why everyone comes here, to spoon feed you information so you don't have to look it up yourself.
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Despite the reputation that xda has for people who know what they're talking about there's still you. Research would imply that there is information elsewhere that:
A. I care about.
B. exists.
4.4 for Nexus 7 2013 is a few hours old. I already said I don't care about speculation. Stop being an ass. The first thing I did was google this and when nothing was found I started a post. Did you do any research before you posted that link? Read the first four pages of results. Read the first 100 pages of results. There's no links to statements from google or any developer anywhere that has looked into anything. Instead there's a bunch of people who all regurgitate information, whether cited or not from The Verge, who also don't cite a source. They just say vaguely that Google told them. Right... because Google talks to The Verge and The Verge exclusively.
Let me change the question for you. Don't answer it. It's clear you're just a moron. This is for somebody else.
Is there really a hardware reason to exclude the Google Experience Launcher? Does anybody know if GEL really uses anything from the 800 or is Google just running a trial on the N5 users?
In addition, has anybody seen whether or not somebody has tried to take the apk from a Nexus 5 and run it on a Nexus 7?
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Despite the reputation that xda has for people who know what they're talking about there's still you. Research would imply that there is information elsewhere that:
A. I care about.
B. exists.
4.4 for Nexus 7 2013 is a few hours old. I already said I don't care about speculation. Stop being an ass. The first thing I did was google this and when nothing was found I started a post. Did you do any research before you posted that link? Read the first four pages of results. Read the first 100 pages of results. There's no links to statements from google or any developer anywhere that has looked into anything. Instead there's a bunch of people who all regurgitate information, whether cited or not from The Verge, who also don't cite a source. They just say vaguely that Google told them. Right... because Google talks to The Verge and The Verge exclusively.
Let me change the question for you. Don't answer it. It's clear you're just a moron. This is for somebody else.
Is there really a hardware reason to exclude the Google Experience Launcher? Does anybody know if GEL really uses anything from the 800 or is Google just running a trial on the N5 users?
In addition, has anybody seen whether or not somebody has tried to take the apk from a Nexus 5 and run it on a Nexus 7?
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Your Google Fu sucks. You obviously don't know how to use a search engine. I may be a moron but I'm smarter then you. So there's that.
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Your Google Fu sucks. You obviously don't know how to use a search engine. I may be a moron but I'm smarter then you. So there's that.
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So you're a moron and a liar? There's no statement from Google about it or you would have posted it. There's no information about whether or not the speculated functionality of the snapdragon 800 is really required for GEL's always listening either. You didn't find anything in Google (or Bing. I thought you were just being stupid).
If you found anything... anything at all, post it. I will take even your information gladly.
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Is there really a hardware reason to exclude the Google Experience Launcher? Does anybody know if GEL really uses anything from the 800 or is Google just running a trial on the N5 users?
In addition, has anybody seen whether or not somebody has tried to take the apk from a Nexus 5 and run it on a Nexus 7?
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Those first builds of 4.4 that came around when the Nexus 5 was launched actually had the whole GEL. the only problem was the keyboard would pop up when you went back to the homescreen, but other than that, it was working fine, so the only reason I can see as to why they would have left it out of the tablet would be to give the Nexus 5 some more bullet points on its feature list than other products out there.
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Those first builds of 4.4 that came around when the Nexus 5 was launched actually had the whole GEL. the only problem was the keyboard would pop up when you went back to the homescreen, but other than that, it was working fine, so the only reason I can see as to why they would have left it out of the tablet would be to give the Nexus 5 some more bullet points on its feature list than other products out there.
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Interesting. So... chances are we'll have a unofficial version floating around in no-time. Did you have any hands on with those first builds? Did the always on functionality seem to impact battery life adversely? Thanks in advance!
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Where is it for Nexus 7 2013? Will it be in the factory build? Is it going to be available for download separately from the store?
I find it odd that with all of the push to eliminate fragmentation it's not included.
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I find it very troubling too. Especially when we didn't get the new look either. Nothing a little Nova Beta can't fix!
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Interesting. So... chances are we'll have a unofficial version floating around in no-time. Did you have any hands on with those first builds? Did the always on functionality seem to impact battery life adversely? Thanks in advance!
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I didn't take any time to tear into the build and tinker with it, but if there was any battery impact, it was too small to notice. I was still getting days of use. Even though the keyboard thing wasn't fixed in that build, maybe now that official builds are out and about, it can be fixed and sideloaded. I mean, all it was was a install of Google Play Services, the Launcher and the latest Google Search. Hopefully it won't be too hard to package those up and have them working soon.
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I find it very troubling too. Especially when we didn't get the new look either. Nothing a little Nova Beta can't fix!
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HEY!!!
Are you saying those sexy greyish icons up top AREN'T enough?!
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Interesting. So... chances are we'll have a unofficial version floating around in no-time. Did you have any hands on with those first builds? Did the always on functionality seem to impact battery life adversely? Thanks in advance!
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There's already unofficial builds running around. I'm running it on my N7 with 4.4 right now. Still has the keyboard bug though.
All I had to do was install the launcher APK from Android Police and boom, GEL.
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I didn't take any time to tear into the build and tinker with it, but if there was any battery impact, it was too small to notice. I was still getting days of use. Even though the keyboard thing wasn't fixed in that build, maybe now that official builds are out and about, it can be fixed and sideloaded. I mean, all it was was a install of Google Play Services, the Launcher and the latest Google Search. Hopefully it won't be too hard to package those up and have them working soon.
HEY!!!
Are you saying those sexy greyish icons up top AREN'T enough?!
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Thank you for the information. Sounds like I should wait a few days and check back in.
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I didn't take any time to tear into the build and tinker with it, but if there was any battery impact, it was too small to notice. I was still getting days of use. Even though the keyboard thing wasn't fixed in that build, maybe now that official builds are out and about, it can be fixed and sideloaded. I mean, all it was was a install of Google Play Services, the Launcher and the latest Google Search. Hopefully it won't be too hard to package those up and have them working soon.
HEY!!!
Are you saying those sexy greyish icons up top AREN'T enough?!
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As far as aesthetics go, no, changing the color of the notification bar text and icons wasn't enough. At all. Considering we didn't get the transparent notification bar or the new app drawer icon. I'm getting my fix of those two with Nova Beta though. Gets me all of those things, plus it's pretty stable.
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As far as aesthetics go, no, changing the color of the notification bar text and icons wasn't enough. At all. Considering we didn't get the transparent notification bar or the new app drawer icon. I'm getting my fix of those two with Nova Beta though. Gets me all of those things, plus it's pretty stable.
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Yeah I was more being sarcastic. Even though I was more looking forward to just having a bit more stability in everything I use the tablet for, I can't say I wasn't a little bit disappointed not having a very obvious "New Update Day!" feature to have fun with. And if Action Launcher wasn't the most overpowered launcher out there, I might use Nova. I just can't get over that Quick Panel. its too useful
Massive Google Search 3.1.8 Update Rolling Out, Brings Google Experience Launcher To All 4.1+ Devices, New Cards, Completely Fixes GEL On Tablets, And More [APK Download]
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Happy now?
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Happy now?
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I had a feeling thats what why they didnt include it...
Im using a 4.4 ROM on my nexus4 with gel and i tell you, dont havê battery issue, or fast drain...its quite normal in fact...
Enviado de meu Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk
Hi
As most of us all know that oreo roms are stable and giving good results.but all roms lack Ok Google feature when screen is off.and no one seems to fix it i wonder is it because its difficult or simply because people don't find it compelling enough.
What if i wanted to fix this issue? What would be a good start in the right direction?
Also if any one knows or has info that can help please share.
Thanks
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Hi
As most of us all know that oreo roms are stable and giving good results.but all roms lack Ok Google feature when screen is off.and no one seems to fix it i wonder is it because its difficult or simply because people don't find it compelling enough.
What if i wanted to fix this issue? What would be a good start in the right direction?
Also if any one knows or has info that can help please share.
Thanks
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My Moto Z Play on 7.1.1 does not have "OK Google" with screen off and it's completely stock. Is there an example of a phone with "OK Google" working with the screen off?
Guapo613 said:
My Moto Z Play on 7.1.1 does not have "OK Google" with screen off and it's completely stock. Is there an example of a phone with "OK Google" working with the screen off?
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Bro almost all nexus phones have this functionality to activate Ok Google from screen off. I do not know about other manufacturers though but i think it can be turned on in most phones via voice or assistant settings.
Sanabil said:
Hi
As most of us all know that oreo roms are stable and giving good results.but all roms lack Ok Google feature when screen is off.and no one seems to fix it i wonder is it because its difficult or simply because people don't find it compelling enough.
What if i wanted to fix this issue? What would be a good start in the right direction?
Also if any one knows or has info that can help please share.
Thanks
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I haven't fixed it for LineageOS, because I didn't know where to start.
Additionaly it's not very important for me.
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I haven't fixed it for LineageOS, because I didn't know where to start.
Additionaly it's not very important for me.
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Oh i see ? well in that case what do you suggest?
may be this feature is useful for some, like myself.
And it will be nice to see it in !
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Oh i see well in that case what do you suggest?
may be this feature is useful for some, like myself.
And it will be nice to see it in !
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My suggestion?
Fix it
I know this isn't very helpful, but I really don't know what changed with O and why it isn't working any more.
Perhaps you can start to find out why shamu's custom TriggerTraining.apk isn't launched anymore like it used to be on N.
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My suggestion?
Fix it
I know this isn't very helpful, but I really don't know what changed with O and why it isn't working any more.
Perhaps you can start to find out why shamu's custom TriggerTraining.apk isn't launched anymore like it used to be on N.
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:laugh: ok let's see.
Elektroschmock said:
My suggestion?
Fix it
I know this isn't very helpful, but I really don't know what changed with O and why it isn't working any more.
Perhaps you can start to find out why shamu's custom TriggerTraining.apk isn't launched anymore like it used to be on N.
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You see i am no developer, but i see your statement gives hints and certain clues to what to look for. ?
I searched and found a thread on xda from 2016 , Op was suggesting to modify build.prop via text editor , so changed device name to pixel xl , finally rebooted
AAAaanddddd
It didn't worked ?
Back to more searching,
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I searched and found a thread on xda from 2016 , Op was suggesting to modify build.prop via text editor , so changed device name to pixel xl , finally rebooted
AAAaanddddd
It didn't worked
Back to more searching,
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If it was that easy it would have been fixed already.
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If it was that easy it would have been fixed already.
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Can i ask you something?
All the devs who put out such ROMs can't they just debug or know where code requires modification.??
Also do you know a coder or dev that you think has a chance of doing it.
Thanks
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Can i ask you something?
All the devs who put out such ROMs can't they just debug or know where code requires modification.??
Also do you know a coder or dev that you think has a chance of doing it.
Thanks
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I don't know what you think who those devs are. I did the oreo bringup for shamu, but I am a hardware developer and my software skills are very limited.
Additionally all devs do it in their free time and for fun. If a feature is not implemented or not fixed then there is a high chance that nobody is interested or able to fix it.
If you want it working then you should learn to debug and to code.
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I don't know what you think who those devs are. I did the oreo bringup for shamu, but I am a hardware developer and my software skills are very limited.
Additionally all devs do it in their free time and for fun. If a feature is not implemented or not fixed then there is a high chance that nobody is interested or able to fix it.
If you want it working then you should learn to debug and to code.
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Bro i meant no disrespect to any dev who do such work, i appreciate their hard work . I also realize that they take special time to do such work.I didn't knew much about how its all done. But since you explained, i thank you.
And i think as you mentioned i will look into it myself. :good:
Today i used nokia 6.1 with Android Oreo 8.1 , i checked its assistant and to my surprise it too did not supported ok Google function with screen off.
So my guess is that its more of an Android 8.1 change , they have limited this functionality to certain phones.
This means it is not a bug, and needs some custom coding or programming/modification to make it work again .
Well i think i am isolated but i shall continue to find what ever i can and post .
I read on Reddit post of this problem and a user posted build prop trick where one tricks the Nexus 6 into thinking its a pixel device.
I tried but it didn't worked and also camera app crashed too. Voice match remains greyd out , it did how ever at first showed sign that its working but nope upon real testing it failed.
I then tried switching name to nexus 6p and it enabled one option which was previously greyd out, it allowed me to record and voice and asked for pin to use voice match but then disabled 'use ok google from any screen' option. .... and camera was not working too..
Is it the right direction? perhaps..perhaps not.
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This issue is definitely from Google's server side, the voice match issue is not present on nexus 5 and nexus 7 tablet. here is a thread of ongoing discussion.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/0GmbO8FgvQg;context-place=forum/nexus
I think Google decided to ditch ok Google screen off functionality altogether from Nexus 6. There tech team never responded to the complaints mad by users. So it's kinda dead now.
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I think Google decided to ditch ok Google screen off functionality altogether from Nexus 6. There tech team never responded to the complaints mad by users. So it's kinda dead now.
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I've been looking for a solution to this. I spent a weekend last month flashing various 8.1 and 7.1.X roms and trying to renable it. Same story every time. Apparently Google's just decided we don't get to use this feature anymore. I'm gonna start playing with other assistants (Cortana, Alexa, Hound, Autovoice) and see if any work like we want Assistant to.
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I've been looking for a solution to this. I spent a weekend last month flashing various 8.1 and 7.1.X roms and trying to renable it. Same story every time. Apparently Google's just decided we don't get to use this feature anymore. I'm gonna start playing with other assistants (Cortana, Alexa, Hound, Autovoice) and see if any work like we want Assistant to.
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I wish you best of luck bro . ?
Has anyone tried this on a 100% stock, unrooted device? I got Google One for being a good Local Guide, and Google Customer Support says root may cause this. I'm going to try Magisk Hide and report back.
Ive tried searching, but cannot find if there is a ROM for the S5 that blocks all google back ground services from reporting on you, whatever info it may be. Ive seen the rumor of the company selling their refurb phones with a custom ROM on it, but at ludicrous prices, and cant even find them at all. Im going to be getting an S5 from a friend soon and want to start stripping it of the fluff and google services if at all possible.
I don't know of any custom ROMs that include Google services by default. Just don't install GApps.
OK, thanks.
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Ive tried searching, but cannot find if there is a ROM for the S5 that blocks all google back ground services from reporting on you, whatever info it may be. Ive seen the rumor of the company selling their refurb phones with a custom ROM on it, but at ludicrous prices, and cant even find them at all. Im going to be getting an S5 from a friend soon and want to start stripping it of the fluff and google services if at all possible.
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https://androidfilehost.com/?w=profile&uid=1899786940962587812
https://e.foundation/?v=6cc98ba2045f
https://community.e.foundation/
Ungoogled ROMs. No gapps! Awesome builds. I've been bouncing between the N and P builds for many weeks. Enjoy :good:
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https://androidfilehost.com/?w=profile&uid=1899786940962587812
https://e.foundation/?v=6cc98ba2045f
https://community.e.foundation/
Ungoogled ROMs. No gapps! Awesome builds. I've been bouncing between the N and P builds for many weeks. Enjoy :good:
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Pardon the stupid questions, im a Windows user and having to investigate the possibility of being forced to move if they dont fix Cortana's voice command (she only does searches when you give her a command) and Interests have been turned off for a while with no warning or reason, but there is a message on a 8.1 phone as to why.
Anywho, how do you load apps if you dont have Gapps/google services? Can you side load them, but where do you get up to date ones if not from the Play store? Is it worth using a free S5 or plunking for a One Plus 6T or 7 or Nokia 8?
Talon Pro said:
Pardon the stupid questions, im a Windows user and having to investigate the possibility of being forced to move if they dont fix Cortana's voice command (she only does searches when you give her a command) and Interests have been turned off for a while with no warning or reason, but there is a message on a 8.1 phone as to why.
Anywho, how do you load apps if you dont have Gapps/google services? Can you side load them, but where do you get up to date ones if not from the Play store? Is it worth using a free S5 or plunking for a One Plus 6T or 7 or Nokia 8?
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Hi mate,
Try FDroid, Aurora Store, Yalp. I also side load from pure apk.
/e/ has its own apps store as well.
I use S5 devices. Cheap and operate great.
Many options :good:
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Hi mate,
Try FDroid, Aurora Store, Yalp. I also side load from pure apk.
/e/ has its own apps store as well.
I use S5 devices. Cheap and operate great.
Many options :good:
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I just bought a Nokia 7.2 and will be picking it up later tonight I may still get the S5 though.