TWRP without ROOT MODE ? - Galaxy S5 Mini General

Hello,
I have an S5 (kccat6).
After installing TWRP with ODIN, do I also need to install superSU to fully use TWRP? Or can I do without the root mode without problems?
Thanks for your advice.

HIPOKAMPing said:
Hello,
I have an S5 (kccat6).
After installing TWRP with ODIN, do I also need to install superSU to fully use TWRP? Or can I do without the root mode without problems?
Thanks for your advice.
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No.
TWRP just replaces stock recovery to be used instead.
SU or nowadays Magisk gives root privileges but they need TWRP to flash them.

bmwdroid said:
No.
TWRP just replaces stock recovery to be used instead.
SU or nowadays Magisk gives root privileges but they need TWRP to flash them.
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So I can make a full backup of my unrooted android system with TWRP, and restore it as well without any problem ?
Rooting is not mandatory for that ?

HIPOKAMPing said:
So I can make a full backup of my unrooted android system with TWRP, and restore it as well without any problem ?
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Backup yes, restoring can't be guaranteed although I never had a problem with that.
HIPOKAMPing said:
Rooting is not mandatory for that ?
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No. TWRP doesn't care

bmwdroid said:
Backup yes, restoring can't be guaranteed although I never had a problem with that.
No. TWRP doesn't care
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Great, I prefer to keep it unrooted.
Especially since I hardly do anything with it. Just a ghost system for security and that's it.
Thanks a lot for your help, bmwdroid. ;-)

bmwdroid said:
Backup yes, restoring can't be guaranteed although I never had a problem with that.
No. TWRP doesn't care
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It works, restoration included. Without rooting. I apparently have no problem.
Thanks, I'll see the next step to install LineageOS maybe.
Have a nice weekend.

Related

[Q] Flashing stock rom (GT-9500)

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I've never done a backup myself but that's bad practice I know.
If SuperSu does not ask you for root privileges, then there might be some issues with your root. Have you tried to install the latest update? I had the same issue right after root, the default SuperSu app did not work so what I did was flashing the latest SuperSu app via Recovery and it worked.
Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I just flash 4.4.2 INU, just backup yr msg & call logs, the installation process automatically backup & restore apps
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda app-developers app
Always make a backup before doing anything to your system. You never know what might go wrong. You can backup using nandroid or your custom recovery.
Regarding you SuperSU issue, make sure you answer "No" when your custom recovery asks you fix root (unless specified by the rooting procedure - philz touch recovery when rooting Russian firmware i9500 4.4.2).
Moreover, you can download an app to check if you lost your root privileges. If you did lose it, root your system again.
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Ap0rd said:
I already backed up my stock rom as an image, I'm talking about backing up apps, settings, etc to restore them. About superuser, I tried several times to re root but i won't work.
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you can use titanium backup but that needs root. uninstall Super SU and install it from the play store. The app will detect if its activity is hindered by KNOX.
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Ap0rd said:
By uninstalling , you mean unrooting?
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First, make sure that your are, indeed, rooted. Uninstall Super SU in Applications Manager in your Settings. Install again from play store.
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download a root checker app to check if you are rooted. try downloading Super SU from play store anyway. See what happens.
cheers ~
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Ap0rd said:
How am i supposed to check for root if supersu isn't giving root access
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ohhh right. reinstall your recovery and reroot your phone. When I was on 4.3, I used CWM 6.0.4.5.
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Ap0rd said:
Why do I have to reinstall the recovery? And more importantly, I tried to re root before but it didn't work?
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I read you first post again and you stated that you can grant root privileges to apps (always grant). Install Titanium Backup and backup your apps and flash 4.4.2. What's the problem here?
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Ap0rd said:
Thanks for the help. Did you flash 4.4.2? And if you did, did you encounter any problems with it?
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Yes. Flashed it with ODIN. No problems whatsoever. ALTHOUGH... some users are complaining about sd card permissions.
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Ap0rd said:
Flashed 4.4.2 and rooted with philz recovery... No problems...
Thanks for the help everyone, especially @deandoi
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Gladly.
cheers ~

OTA storage location?

Does anybody know where the OTA file is being saved in our phone?
I'm downloading the file now but I won't be installing it yet until I put back my stock recovery.
Nevermind. I already found the location. If anyone wants to know, it can be found in data/data/com.zte.zdm/files
Can you confirm the location. I am on 7.1.1 and trying to save the latest OTA (on A2017G). Under /data, I only have a mail directory and nothing else.
piet8stevens said:
Can you confirm the location. I am on 7.1.1 and trying to save the latest OTA (on A2017G). Under /data, I only have a mail directory and nothing else.
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Is your phone rooted?
otaconremo said:
Is your phone rooted?
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No, not yet. Am trying to do so via magisk.
piet8stevens said:
No, not yet. Am trying to do so via magisk.
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I see. I think you can view that location once you're rooted.
piet8stevens said:
No, not yet. Am trying to do so via magisk.
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Magisk doesn't work on our phone. Use SuperSU.
crashnova said:
Magisk doesn't work on our phone. Use SuperSU.
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Interesting but I don't get it. The entire Badboyz ROM is based on Magisk. And it runs on my phone. ?
piet8stevens said:
Interesting but I don't get it. The entire Badboyz ROM is based on Magisk. And it runs on my phone. ?
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They don't use the newest version magisk. Try pulling the zip from their room that contains magisk and flash it. I've tried and had no luck. It would cause the phone to bootloop.
otaconremo said:
Does anybody know where the OTA file is being saved in our phone?
I'm downloading the file now but I won't be installing it yet until I put back my stock recovery.
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Did you use flashfire or something like that to flash stock recovery? I made a backup in TWRP thought about trying to restore stock recovery with that. I have did it on other phones just not this one.
neo4uo said:
Did you use flashfire or something like that to flash stock recovery? I made a backup in TWRP thought about trying to restore stock recovery with that. I have did it on other phones just not this one.
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Usually I just use the backup boot and recovery I have when I installed twrp using tenfar's tool. I flash my backup images in twrp. Then, i use adb sideload to upgrade rather than sd method.
otaconremo said:
I see. I think you can view that location once you're rooted.
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Thank you. But when I am rooted, do I still receive OTAs?
piet8stevens said:
Thank you. But when I am rooted, do I still receive OTAs?
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yes, you can still receive and download the OTA like I how figured out the location.
However, you can't update using the downloaded OTA file unless you revert your boot and recovery partitions to stock.
otaconremo said:
yes, you can still receive and download the OTA like I how figured out the location.
However, you can't update using the downloaded OTA file unless you revert your boot and recovery partitions to stock.
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Thank you. I have now a rooted stock phone. I received the OTA, but there is no /data/data. Anything I need to do?
piet8stevens said:
Thank you. I have now a rooted stock phone. I received the OTA, but there is no /data/data. Anything I need to do?
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Are you using root explorer? I think you need to download the ota update first but don't install.
Also, are trying to update to nougat? Here's the latest b15 rom on the official site.
http://www.zte.com.cn/china/sitecor...?id=B4C0ACE418834F588FED0C72D6046C78#software
otaconremo said:
Are you using root explorer? I think you need to download the ota update first but don't install.
Also, are trying to update to nougat? Here's the latest b15 rom on the official site.
http://www.zte.com.cn/china/sitecor...?id=B4C0ACE418834F588FED0C72D6046C78#software
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OK, finally got it. Thank you so much.

how to completely reset rooted android

What is the easiest way to completely reset my rooted android?
jdugery said:
What is the easiest way to completely reset my rooted android?
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By reset do you mean restore it to "out of box" state? Then you need to restore your pre-root backup or flash stock via fastboot. But at this time locking the bootloader is not possible since we do not have the latest firmware, unless your device has older firmware installed (only the output of "fastboot getvar all" would tell us for sure)
acejavelin said:
By reset do you mean restore it to "out of box" state? Then you need to restore your pre-root backup or flash stock via fastboot. But at this time locking the bootloader is not possible since we do not have the latest firmware, unless your device has older firmware installed (only the output of "fastboot getvar all" would tell us for sure)
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I just mean remove root and reset the phone so it is practically brand new. I don't care about locking the bootloader.
jdugery said:
I just mean remove root and reset the phone so it is practically brand new. I don't care about locking the bootloader.
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What model xt15?? and version android do you have?
Twrp ver.?
Rooted with supersu or magisk?
Have you backup before rooting?
jdugery said:
I just mean remove root and reset the phone so it is practically brand new. I don't care about locking the bootloader.
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Then you can chose the option that fit's best...
1) Unroot in the SuperSU app's Setting's menu with Full Unroot option. This will remove root but not restore the original recovery, most likely leaving TWRP in place, then boot into the bootloader, start recovery (TWRP most likely) and perform an advanced wipe including caches, user data, and internal storage
2) Boot into TWRP and restore your pre-root backup, then perform a factory reset. This may or may not remove TWRP depending on how you did the backup. If you booted TWRP and performed the backup, it should be essentially back to factory state including stock recovery, if you flashed TWRP first then backed up then TWRP will remain.
3) Restore to stock via fastboot with the latest factory image.
Your choice of which is most appropriate for your circumstances.
acejavelin said:
Then you can chose the option that fit's best...
1) Unroot in the SuperSU app's Setting's menu with Full Unroot option. This will remove root but not restore the original recovery, most likely leaving TWRP in place, then boot into the bootloader, start recovery (TWRP most likely) and perform an advanced wipe including caches, user data, and internal storage
2) Boot into TWRP and restore your pre-root backup, then perform a factory reset. This may or may not remove TWRP depending on how you did the backup. If you booted TWRP and performed the backup, it should be essentially back to factory state including stock recovery, if you flashed TWRP first then backed up then TWRP will remain.
3) Restore to stock via fastboot with the latest factory image.
Your choice of which is most appropriate for your circumstances.
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I unrooted in SuperSU and wiped in TWRP but Snapchat still won't let me login. Root checker confirms I'm not rooted.
jdugery said:
I unrooted in SuperSU and wiped in TWRP but Snapchat still won't let me login. Root checker confirms I'm not rooted.
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After you have unrooted, clear data on Snapchat and then log in again (or uninstall and reinstall Snapchat).
I don't use Snapchat or Whatsapp, but my understanding is that you have to login before you root... if you have tried to login, it remembers you were rooted until you clear data.
acejavelin said:
After you have unrooted, clear data on Snapchat and then log in again (or uninstall and reinstall Snapchat).
I don't use Snapchat or Whatsapp, but my understanding is that you have to login before you root... if you have tried to login, it remembers you were rooted until you clear data.
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I did this still no luck. Apparently if you even have an unlocked bootloader you can't log into Snapchat. So I'm gonna have to lock my bootloader. Any ideas on the easiest method of doing that?
jdugery said:
I did this still no luck. Apparently if you even have an unlocked bootloader you can't log into Snapchat. So I'm gonna have to lock my bootloader. Any ideas on the easiest method of doing that?
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Well, that shouldn't be it... but locking the bootloader is difficult depending on what version you are on now. The problem is you must flash a complete factory image to lock and we don't have the latest images.
jdugery said:
I did this still no luck. Apparently if you even have an unlocked bootloader you can't log into Snapchat. So I'm gonna have to lock my bootloader. Any ideas on the easiest method of doing that?
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No I'm almost 99% positive that that's wrong you don't need a locked bootloader to log into snapchat? Where did you read this??
@acejavelin is extremely knowledgeable and will be able to help you with any problem you come across, but you should not need to lock bootloader...anything I find says snap blocks root...and safety net is tripped by an unlocked bootloader. The two don't go hand in hand though. Snapchat doesn't use safety net.
Edit: if you're able to make a backup of a snapchat that is logged in using Titanium backup, and then install that backup onto your phone. Don't know if you have an extra device around though. But really confused as to why reinstalling didn't even work? Is there a chance that the unroot option in superSU did not remove root fully??
acejavelin said:
Well, that shouldn't be it... but locking the bootloader is difficult depending on what version you are on now. The problem is you must flash a complete factory image to lock and we don't have the latest images.
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Are you sure you don't need a locked bootloader to log into snapchat?
jdugery said:
Are you sure you don't need a locked bootloader to log into snapchat?
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About 95% sure... Like I said, I don't use SnapChat, but to my knowledge the SafetyNet API doesn't check the bootloader status on Marshmallow devices, only on devices that shipped with Nougat (not that were upgraded).
There has to be some left-overs from root that are causing it to fail.
acejavelin said:
About 95% sure... Like I said, I don't use SnapChat, but to my knowledge the SafetyNet API doesn't check the bootloader status on Marshmallow devices, only on devices that shipped with Nougat (not that were upgraded).
There has to be some left-overs from root that are causing it to fail.
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But I completely reset my device. Should I wipe everything in TWRP?
jdugery said:
But I completely reset my device. Should I wipe everything in TWRP?
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I doubt it will help, but you can backup and try it... Most likely something is still in /system, you need to restore your pre-root backup for system and boot and wipe caches. If you don't have that backup then reflash the stock image.
acejavelin said:
I doubt it will help, but you can backup and try it... Most likely something is still in /system, you need to restore your pre-root backup for system and boot and wipe caches. If you don't have that backup then reflash the stock image.
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Where can I find the stock image. And can I flash it using TWRP?
jdugery said:
Where can I find the stock image. And can I flash it using TWRP?
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Hmm... maybe one of the links in my sig would help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-return-to-stock-relock-bootloader-t3489110
acejavelin said:
Hmm... maybe one of the links in my sig would help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-return-to-stock-relock-bootloader-t3489110
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Couldn't see your signature because I'm on mobile lol
But just wondering can I flash these using TWRP
jdugery said:
Couldn't see your signature because I'm on mobile lol
But just wondering can I flash these using TWRP
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You can see a users signature and stats by tapping their icon.
No, they cannot be flashed in TWRP, must be done with fastboot.
acejavelin said:
You can see a users signature and stats by tapping their icon.
No, they cannot be flashed in TWRP, must be done with fastboot.
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Finally that's how you do it!! Now I can see what the legend listens to for music?
Spencervb256 said:
Is there a chance that the unroot option in superSU did not remove root fully??
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Yes it is.
Sometimes you need to flash stock/custom kernel. @jdugery
What is your version of system. Full numbers. Info about phone. 24...?

Cleanest root

Hello everyone !
I currently have a H870 european LG g6.
I want to root my phone but I don't want to install TWRP.
I want the lightest and "as stock as possible" way to root.
Is it possible? Thanks a lot for your help !
Your NEED to unlock bootloader. Then ADB to root.
Why not have twrp installed? Great for backup restoring flashing latest root list goes on.
If you want a rom which is 'stock as possible' install Fulmics rom. You do need to unlock your bootloader and use TWRP to install the rom tho'.
kurskoo40 said:
If you want a rom...
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?? He just wants root. Nothing else. No ROM.
Aight if you don't want any rom, you still got to unlock your bootloader cause you need to install TWRP to install magisk or supersu. Which root app do you prefer?
I have the US997 and want something similar. I want to root the stock rom with Magisk and still be able to take an OTA. Ideally, unlock, flash TWRP, root, and then flash back stock recovery. This is possible correct?
Irieone said:
I have the US997 and want something similar. I want to root the stock rom with Magisk and still be able to take an OTA. Ideally, unlock, flash TWRP, root, and then flash back stock recovery. This is possible correct?
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Yea you can do that. You can keep the stock rom if you want but you will need to flash TWRP to install magisk. Magisk comes with a .zip file which only can be installed with TWRP.
kurskoo40 said:
Yea you can do that. You can keep the stock rom if you want but you will need to flash TWRP to install magisk. Magisk comes with a .zip file which only can be installed with TWRP.
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Is it possible at all to avoid flashing TWRP (like going with SuperSU instead of Magisk)?
sp_1st_timer said:
Is it possible at all to avoid flashing TWRP (like going with SuperSU instead of Magisk)?
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Nope, you always need a custom recovery to flash SuperSu or Magisk.
Anyway, why you don't want the custom recovery? You can always remove it by flashing the stock one.
Killua96 said:
Nope, you always need a custom recovery to flash SuperSu or Magisk.
Anyway, why you don't want the custom recovery? You can always remove it by flashing the stock one.
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I have read a lot of issues other users have trying to make TWRP to work. I was thinking it would be better for me if there was a way to skip TWRP when rooting my LG G6.
sp_1st_timer said:
I have read a lot of issues other users have trying to make TWRP to work. I was thinking it would be better for me if there was a way to skip TWRP when rooting my LG G6.
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Zefie's TWRP doesn't have any major problems, official one is unable to mount system and has problems with backups, nothing to do with normal usage of the phone.
Killua96 said:
Zefie's TWRP doesn't have any major problems, official one is unable to mount system and has problems with backups, nothing to do with normal usage of the phone.
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Thanks! I wish somebody knowledgeable would post an "Ultimate Guide to Rooting your LG G6" thread and make it a sticky. There are contradicting/incomplete instructions on when to press and release the Volume & Power button, when to disconnect the USB cable, etc.
I believe many simple questions on flashing recovery and rooting will keep coming back until a correct, complete and detailed step-by-step guide gets posted.

Lost root after update

Hello,
My brother has updated his phone and lost his root and TWRP.
what is the possible solution to have them back without losing the data ?
With A/B phones you have to re-flash Magisk and twrp after each update, boot to twrp and flash Magisk-TWRP installer again.
onliner said:
With A/B phones you have to re-flash Magisk and twrp after each update, boot to twrp and flash Magisk-TWRP installer again.
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So now if i rebooted to fastboot, then boot TWRP, then Flashed Twrp and magisk .. i will not lose my data ?
iiD4x said:
i will not lose my data ?
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No.
onliner said:
No.
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Wait, so i cant do it without losing data?
iiD4x said:
Wait, so i cant do it without losing data?
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Your bootloader is still unlocked after the update, so you can boot twrp without problems.
onliner said:
Yeah, your bootloader is still unlocked after the update, so you can boot twrp without problems.
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please dude answer with (1) or (2):
(1) i will lose my data if i flashed TWRP and Magisk.
(2) i will keep my data even if i flashed TWRP and Magisk.
iiD4x said:
please dude answer with (1) or (2):
(1) i will lose my data if i flashed TWRP and Magisk.
(2) i will keep my data even if i flashed TWRP and Magisk.
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lol, 2.

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